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EdTechWeekly#56
with bonus Open Content Declaration discussion
December 2, 2007

December 8, 21:30GMT  - The Edublog Awards

This week's Del.icio.us Links

Chat Log Below



18:27:33  John ->  Compelling audio, Jeff :-) Aren't you going to sing some Christmas carols or something?
18:29:44  jeff ->  yikes-  you were listening to the sound check?
18:34:35  John ->  mostly, it was just you breathing on ustream
18:35:41  John ->  do you know Lisa's last name from the conference this week?
18:56:47  Cathy E ->  It does not sound bad to me
18:57:00  dave ->  my favourite part is the professionalism
19:01:03  JenniferW ->  do I hear COMPLAINING??
19:01:04  Cathy E ->  ya'll sound like my inlaws
19:01:12  JenM ->  tee hee!
19:01:23  John ->  Still preshow, Jdub. The light, happy dave hasn't joined us yet
19:01:31  JenniferW ->  ahhhh -- that's it
19:02:03  JenniferW ->  I voted for ETT
19:02:16  JenniferW ->  figured a vote for ETT was kinda a vote for WOW2 -- right??
19:03:21  Durff ->  the washer?
19:03:29  Durff ->  he does the wash?
19:03:30  John ->  yeah, probably
19:03:43  jeff ->  I used to help, but I got fired
19:03:57  Durff ->  oh well
19:04:00  Gary ->  But he stays in the same room as the washer during the show?
19:04:21  Durff ->  must be in the basement
19:05:04  dave ->  http://www.onthemedia.org/episodes/2007/11/30/segments/89741
19:05:24  JenniferW ->  oh goodie -- the old fashioned way
19:06:13  JenM ->  for Alice Mercer: http://www.weebly.com/
19:06:25  Durff ->  finishing lesson plans - not ignoring anyone
19:06:27  John ->  we should do a show on olpc/eee/other cheap computers
19:06:44  dave ->  we should get them donated to test :)
19:06:48  JenM ->  http://www.readprint.com/
19:07:35  jeff ->  http://www.amazon.com/kindle
19:07:47  jeff ->  http://21apples.org/articles/2007/11/20/e-book-reader-that-might-be-wort...
19:09:14  John ->  http://muve.gse.harvard.edu/rivercityproject/index.html
19:10:08  JenniferW ->  River City like Music Man??
19:10:49  John ->  trouble. with a capital T
19:10:54  dave ->  http://teachtech.education.uconn.edu/3require.htm
19:12:14  Cathy E ->     9/25/2002
19:13:01  Gary ->  Some classrooms may only have this level still.
19:13:19  susant ->  hello
19:13:20  JenM ->  http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/30/eye-fi-wifi-enabled-sd-card-finally-s... ... and ... http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/01/eye-fi-embeds-wifi-into-your-sd-flash/
19:13:32  dave ->  hi Susant
19:14:10  susant ->  how do you manage to listen and chat at same time?  I'm no multitasker:-(
19:14:26  jeff ->  http://www.utterz.com/
19:14:28  John ->  we don't listen to each other
19:14:35  susant ->  lol
19:14:42  dave ->  I don't even listen to myself
19:14:49  jeff ->  http://claimid.com/about
19:15:14  John ->  http://www.labnol.org/software/download/download-camtasia-studio-free/1829/ and http://www.labnol.org/software/download/free-download-snagit-with-serial...
19:15:20  dave ->  the most important thing to remember Susant is to take what works for you
19:15:27  dave ->  If the audio works
19:15:29  dave ->  just listen to it
19:15:34  dave ->  if you like the text... focus on that
19:15:43  dave ->  you're the audience... you get to choose :)
19:15:44  susant ->  Ok got it
19:15:50  lisaparisi ->  and dave, what if you like both ;)
19:15:54  JenniferW ->  Backtrack - why do I want to have an OPEN ID???
19:16:09  dave ->  http://www.techsupportalert.com/review-linux-for-windows-users-part-3.htm
19:16:34  John ->  Jen: so you don't have to register at each site -- you just give them your openid.
19:16:58  JenniferW ->  excellent -- I have Camtasia 5.0 -- but it didn't come with Snagit -- downloading it now.
19:17:36  susant ->  why not vista?
19:18:00  lisaparisi ->  susan..vista is not backwards compatible
19:18:06  lisaparisi ->  causes many problems
19:18:08  Gary ->  Notice is says "normal" users.
19:18:11  susant ->  Ok
19:18:18  JenM ->  http://cit.ucsf.edu/embedmedia/step1.php
19:18:38  John ->  Jdub: separate link for snagit.
19:18:55  dave ->  people have complained that my language has been impolite
19:19:00  JenniferW ->  WOW, the new show is confrontational??
19:19:03  dave ->  so now... it's 'poop on you'
19:19:06  JenniferW ->  the new format???
19:19:21  jeff ->  http://edublogawards.com/
19:19:22  dave ->  I'm not even sure what the new format is :)
19:19:36  JenM ->  the embedded media html generator is at: http://cit.ucsf.edu/embedmedia/step1.php
19:20:23  jeff ->  file:///C:/temp/dec02links.html
19:20:29  JenniferW ->  uhoh
19:20:32  lisaparisi ->  sound?
19:20:34  JenniferW ->  lost sound???  
19:20:37  JenniferW ->  just me??
19:20:41  lisaparisi ->  me too jen
19:20:41  jeff ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/forum/214
19:20:42  injenuity ->  lost sound here too
19:20:52  Cathy E ->  me too
19:20:53  lisaparisi ->  jeff?
19:20:56  Gary ->  Also here
19:20:59  susant ->  me too
19:21:17  lisaparisi ->  back again
19:21:22  JenniferW ->  yeah!!
19:21:23  lisaparisi ->  nope
19:21:25  JenniferW ->  and sighs
19:21:29  lisaparisi ->  lol
19:21:38  JenniferW ->  happens to the best of them -- I guess
19:21:46  John ->  hang on -- Jeff is fixing it
19:21:48  lisaparisi ->  I'm so glad I'm not the only one who has trouble streaming
19:22:00  dave ->  we'll be back soon
19:22:08  dave ->  doo doo doo doop doo doo do do
19:22:16  lisaparisi ->  If Jeff has problems then it's okay for me to also. :)
19:22:19  JenniferW ->  singing Christmas carols here
19:22:30  lisaparisi ->  rockin around the christmas tree
19:22:30  dave ->  audio back?
19:22:32  injenuity ->  sound back
19:22:39  JenniferW ->  Ihtink Dave was singing jeopardy
19:22:46  susant ->  yes!
19:22:50  dave ->  oh christmas tree, oh christmas tree (right on JW)
19:23:07  JenniferW ->  lets play NAME THAT TUNE _- next time they drop the stream
19:23:42  dave ->  oh christmas tree, oh christmas tree
19:23:53  JenniferW ->  rocking around the Christmas tree --
19:24:03  JenniferW ->  next Christmas tree song ????
19:24:09  jeff ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/forum/214
19:24:20  JenniferW ->  oh --- LOL -- are they back on???
19:24:20  jeff ->  http://evo08sessionscfp.pbwiki.com/
19:24:27  lisaparisi ->  yes
19:24:34  John ->  Refresh the ustream
19:24:40  JenniferW ->  just kidding -- I knew
19:25:16  John ->  http://blogsforlearning.msu.edu/
19:25:49  lisaparisi ->  sound is good here
19:26:15  JenniferW ->  AHHHH -- NOOOOOOOOOO
19:26:24  jeff ->  people listening to audio - go to http://edtechtalk.com/studio
19:26:24  lisaparisi ->  i didn't even know about ustream
19:26:25  susant ->  no really?
19:26:26  JenniferW ->  he is moving us to USTREAM
19:26:46  JenniferW ->  stay in this chatroom???
19:26:50  JenniferW ->  or move ???
19:26:52  jeff ->  you can
19:26:58  jeff ->  or re-login there
19:27:02  JenniferW ->  I shall -- and am listening to Ustream
19:27:10  dave ->  http://www.fatlester.com/articles/what-is-spam.htm
19:27:15  susant ->  hello again
19:27:24  jeff ->  ustream audio OK?
19:27:43  susant ->  no big difference here
19:27:47  lisaparisi ->  ahhh
19:28:50  JenM ->  http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071124/LOCAL/711240... ... and .... http://www.indiana.edu/~ceep/
19:28:52  JenniferW ->  it is a bit crisper -- and NO 30 second delay
19:29:05  dave ->  fight fight fight
19:29:18  lisaparisi ->  Is there a pic or just the logo
19:29:38  loria ->  hi all is there suppose to be sound?
19:29:46  dave ->  yup
19:29:48  lisaparisi ->  in ustream lori
19:29:56  jeff ->  http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&rid=686
19:30:16  Durff ->  no
19:30:21  lori a ->  is there a link please?
19:30:29  jeff ->  http://wiki.contribs.org/Main_Page
19:30:31  susant ->  i"d have to know what you sound like usually
19:30:31  JenniferW ->  don't be distracted by what you read  :)  You sound fine
19:30:55  lori a ->  to the ustream?
19:31:05  John ->  http://www.katw.org/pages/about.cfm
19:31:12  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com/cmtc2007
19:31:12  lisaparisi ->  jeff I think you sound fine
19:31:22  jeff ->  thank you lisa
19:31:25  Durff ->  lori see the screen to your left?
19:31:30  lisaparisi ->  I just saw this link this week.
19:31:32  lisaparisi ->  Very cute
19:31:34  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com/studio
19:31:35  JenniferW ->  the wiki.contribs link wouldn't open for me
19:31:52  lori a ->  yes thanks
19:32:02  Durff ->  got sound?
19:32:03  jeff ->  me neither now - must be down -worked a few minutes ago
19:32:04  dave ->  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071127-banning-wikipedia-at-schoo...
19:32:15  Cathy E ->  Good link - John I am going to use it this week
19:33:19  lisaparisi ->  I've been having this conversation with my librarian.
19:33:23  JenniferW ->  Then they are not teaching what PRIMARY SOURCE is -- if they are using Wikipedia as an example!!!  That is the problem
19:33:27  JenniferW ->  not wikipedia
19:33:45  JenM ->  To make a Flip Book: (PC)_ - http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/FlipbookPrinter/ ... and (Mac) See Movie Flipper - http://www.lamarchefamily.net/nakedsoft/
19:33:46  JenniferW ->  isn't a primary source an EYEwitness??
19:33:50  JenniferW ->  to the event??
19:33:56  lisaparisi ->  yes jen...
19:33:59  dave ->  yes... and that is happening in wikipedia
19:34:01  JenniferW ->  isn't wikipedia a secondary source
19:34:04  lisaparisi ->  wikipedia is a secondary source
19:34:15  lisaparisi ->  the question really is..is it a good source
19:34:16  JenniferW ->  unless someone WAS an eyewitness -- RIGHT??
19:34:19  John ->  more on banning wikipedia: http://ryancollins.org/wp/2007/11/29/banning-wikipedia/#comments
19:34:22  dave ->  many different 'primary events' are being recorded in wikipedia
19:34:25  JenniferW ->  I let my kids use Wikipedia
19:34:36  JenniferW ->  but they have to back it up with other documentation too
19:34:40  JenniferW ->  never allow just ONE source
19:34:42  dave ->  of course
19:34:45  dave ->  same as anything else
19:34:48  JenniferW ->  yep
19:34:54  dave ->  yay
19:34:56  dave ->  we agree!
19:34:58  John ->  It depends on how accurate you need the information to be
19:34:59  lisaparisi ->  me too but librarian said, "If they have to confirm information on wikipedia, then why bother using it at all/"
19:35:05  JenniferW ->  I think that teacher wasted paper by posting the wikipedia stuff
19:35:11  lisaparisi ->  Totally missed the point about being an evaluator
19:35:24  lisaparisi ->  Jeff, you are making me feel so good tonight!
19:35:26  JenniferW ->  Dave -- we almost always agree  :)
19:35:35  jeff ->  http://englishteachinglab.blogspot.com/2007/11/english-grammar-practice-...
19:35:35  dave ->  you should confirm ALL sources
19:35:39  dave ->  always
19:35:47  dave ->  no source is 'trustworthy'
19:35:48  jeff ->  http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
19:35:51  John ->  use my favorite example, cheetahs. Wikipedia says they can run 70-75 miles per hour. Other sources claim 70 MPH, or even 60. But all I need to know is if I can outrun one in my car. And it turns out that I better have a pretty good head start.
19:35:59  jeff ->  http://freeprompter.com/
19:36:12  jeff ->  http://www.celtx.com/overview.html
19:36:20  JenM ->  for all the links we did and didn't cover tonight: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202
19:36:21  JenniferW ->  clapping for FREEPROMPTER!!
19:36:24  JenniferW ->  how cool is that
19:36:28  jeff ->  http://befuddlr.com/
19:36:29  susant ->  great links
19:36:42  techicebreaker ->  Is there a way to save all of the links that are being presented?
19:36:43  JenM ->  to contribute links, add a del.icio.us tag of "for:edtechtalk"
19:36:59  John ->  http://60secondscience.org/
19:37:03  JenniferW ->  John was at Christa TOO???
19:37:09  jeff ->  you can see all of today's links at: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202
19:37:21  jeff ->  this chat log will also be archived
19:37:27  techicebreaker ->  Thanks Jeff!
19:37:33  JenniferW ->  sighs -- was everyone I want to meet at Christa McAuliffe??
19:37:35  JenM ->  techicebreaker, you can go to http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202 and then click "save as" to save it into your own del.icio.us folder ...
19:37:41  dave ->  i wasn't :(
19:37:47  JenniferW ->  almost everyone??
19:38:03  John ->  I wasn't there. I just listened in
19:38:14  JenniferW ->  the format meeans voice changes??
19:38:55  John ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/
19:39:22  JenniferW ->  Ohhhh -- not just links -- now we have depth and conversation -- I LIKE IT!!!
19:39:31  jeff ->  http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2007/11/criticizing-cape-town-declaration...
19:39:44  dave ->  what? stephen downes disagrees?
19:40:26  John ->  http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/397
19:41:43  JenniferW ->  those are not comments -- those are NOVELS...........much too much to read.  Will get a Kindle to read Stephen's comments
19:42:59  Durff ->  lol
19:43:46  JenniferW ->  its much to academic for casual reading......everyone will have a viewpoint -- and it will just get me confused even more
19:45:03  JenniferW ->  I understood the original site --- its the viewpoints that are confusing me  :)
19:45:33  JenniferW ->  I will wait for the Wikipedia article  LOL
19:45:45  John ->  aren't you going to write it?
19:46:04  JenniferW ->  sighs -- it would end up being very short -- Ahhh, HUH??
19:46:21  John ->  That's all you have to do. Someone else will pick up the ball from there.
19:46:46  JenniferW ->  If Jen had not mentioned this site -- I would never have known about it.
19:46:56  John ->  :-)
19:47:10  JenniferW ->  so it can't be a global standard if it is not known  -- right??
19:47:10  JenM ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/faq
19:47:36  JenniferW ->  how could anything then though be a global standard  or universal??
19:48:05  JenniferW ->  now you have me thinking ---- which might not be a good thing  :)
19:48:54  JenniferW ->  is creative commons a global standard???
19:49:00  dave ->  not really
19:49:06  JenniferW ->  hmmmmm
19:49:11  dave ->  it's a popular standard
19:49:20  dave ->  it works in alot of places
19:49:25  JenniferW ->  what is ??  can you think of soemthing that is a global standard??
19:49:38  dave ->  metric system
19:49:40  dave ->  no wait
19:49:43  Lee BAber ->  Hello
19:49:46  dave ->  there's a countyr that doesn't like it :P
19:49:52  JenniferW ->  yes  :(
19:49:59  JenniferW ->  too academic for us  :)
19:50:18  JenniferW ->  is there anything you can think of that is a global standard??
19:50:33  dave ->  i wasn't joking about the metric system
19:50:38  dave ->  it is a global system
19:50:40  JenniferW ->  I know you were not
19:50:53  JenniferW ->  it is accepted globally -- but not used globally
19:51:21  JenniferW ->  and I am not joking about a global standard -- I am really a bit perplexed here
19:51:57  lisaparisi ->  Heading off.  Thanks for stretching my brain just a bit more.
19:52:02  lisaparisi ->  Good night.
19:52:11  susant ->  gnight Lisa
19:52:12  John ->  Good night, lisa.
19:52:24  JenniferW ->  I don't think so -- not internationally
19:54:13  Durff ->  isn't he always?
19:55:11  Durff ->  internetology?
19:55:18  Durff ->  that is original
19:55:48  Lee BAber ->  An interesting twist.. in the program I am in I am using the internet or specifically our comnty./ network/ etc and bringing it back to the institution..
19:55:59  Lee BAber ->  So they need us
19:56:00  Durff ->  Children!
19:56:03  Lee BAber ->  to make it real
19:56:36  susant ->  use the internet
19:56:44  JenniferW ->  I like the new format -- as long as you don't call Jen names  :)
19:56:55  JenM ->  tee hee!
19:57:01  dave ->  is anarchist a 'name'?
19:57:13  JenniferW ->  ahhh I thought you said antichrist  :)
19:57:19  JenM ->  :)
19:57:23  JenM ->  JW!! :)
19:57:24  JenniferW ->  :)
19:57:25  dave ->  ha
19:58:19  Durff ->  and it sbows that he is 12
19:58:54  JenniferW ->  but would students really do that -- would you have done that??
19:59:05  JenniferW ->  are most students TRULY self -- motivated??
19:59:11  JenniferW ->  not arguing - just wondering
19:59:30  JenniferW ->  my students would not
19:59:46  JenniferW ->  the majority would not
19:59:48  Cathy E ->  They will do what it takes to get the grade
20:00:02  John ->  right. but not necessarily a lot more
20:00:07  JenniferW ->  did I say I like this NEW format
20:00:17  JenniferW ->  age level???
20:00:20  John ->  changing your mind, jdub?
20:00:23  JenniferW ->  NO
20:00:30  JenniferW ->  I like the discussion
20:00:50  Durff ->  it's raw - it's real
20:00:57  JenniferW ->  its quite good
20:01:07  Lee BAber ->  I think they are going to participate.
20:01:14  JenniferW ->  I can't find my headphones -- or I would call in
20:01:45  John ->  new place.... they'll turn up. congrats, btw.
20:01:49  JenniferW ->  I really LIKED it -- I liked the off the cuff -- non prepared chat
20:02:07  JenniferW ->  did you prepare -- SORRY
20:02:08  JenniferW ->  LOL
20:02:10  susant ->  I liked it
20:02:25  JenniferW ->  I guess not scripted responses??
20:02:27  JenniferW ->  is that better
20:03:09  JenniferW ->  and you agreed to perhaps disagree -- without name calling (well almost NO name calling)
20:03:13  JenniferW ->  it was good
20:03:14  JenM ->  some other "takes" on this - http://nogoodreason.typepad.co.uk/no_good_reason/2007/11/the-cape-town-d... ... and ... http://www.funnymonkey.com/are-we-there-yet ... and ... http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2007/11/breadth-of-commercial-use.html
20:04:14  Cathy E ->  It's Elementary did it not long ago
20:04:25  Durff ->  what?
20:04:56  jeff ->  To chime in, call jen
20:05:08  Cathy E ->  @Durff- the copyright show
20:05:09  JenM ->  iuistjen
20:05:54  Durff ->  ah copyright
20:06:38  Cathy E ->  http://www.learnnc.org/lp/multimedia/4596
20:07:09  JenniferW ->  sorry -- GPL????
20:07:17  JenniferW ->  sometimes I don't get all the acronyms right away
20:07:27  JenniferW ->  Global Personal Learning??
20:07:29  jeff ->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl
20:07:36  jeff ->  The GNU General Public License (GNU GPL or simply GPL) is a widely used free software license, originally written by Richard Stallman for the GNU project. It is the license used by the Linux kernel. The GPL is the most popular and well-known example of the type of strong copyleft license that requires derived works to be available under the same copyleft. Under this philosophy, the GPL is said to grant the recipients of a computer program the rights of the free software definition and uses copyleft to ensure the freedoms are preserved, even when the work is changed or added to. This is in distinction to permissive free software licences, of which the BSD licenses are the standard examples.
20:07:38  JenniferW ->  ahhh wikipedia -- I should have thought of that
20:07:45  JenniferW ->  thanks
20:08:28  John ->  sorry, jen
20:08:54  JenniferW ->  no worries -- I just blank out on acronyms sometimes
20:11:46  alicemercer ->  Howdy?
20:12:03  susant ->  hi alice
20:12:42  alicemercer ->  What's this on now?
20:13:08  susant ->  openeducation copyright doing away with text books
20:13:10  alicemercer ->  Well, not all would do it.
20:13:32  alicemercer ->  BUT...if 5% of California elementary sci teachers did it.
20:13:40  JenniferW ->  It is the new EdTechTalk Format on Sundays
20:13:47  alicemercer ->  Aha
20:13:50  JenniferW ->  a round table of chat
20:13:55  JenniferW ->  on a certain topic
20:14:37  JenniferW ->  I don't have the link to what started the discussion -- sorry
20:14:47  alicemercer ->  I still haven't gotten a chance to share Intl. Human Rights Day. Either I'm gone, or Doug S. is gone.
20:14:52  jeff ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/
20:14:58  jeff ->  http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2007/11/criticizing-cape-town-declaration...
20:15:00  alicemercer ->  It's next Monday.
20:15:07  dave ->  contiguity
20:15:12  dave ->  an ETT first
20:15:13  dave ->  nice one
20:16:03  alicemercer ->  Anyone interested or will I need to do an Alice's Restaurant on it?
20:16:46  Gary ->  New textbooks today often come with on-line resources.  This may even increase the price but the resources are often not that good because they need to be constantly updated (e.g. biology textbooks) and the publisher is not willing to do that forever.
20:17:13  dave ->  and it doesn't affect the bottom line att he publisher
20:17:22  dave ->  they need to 'have' an online resource
20:17:30  alicemercer ->  Gary, new social studies from Scott Forsman for elementary are in workbooks that are replaced each year.
20:17:39  alicemercer ->  Kids could write on text,
20:17:40  JenniferW ->  I think if parents started complaining about back issues due to weight of backpacks -- and schools took a stand too -- digital textbooks or online textbooks WOULD become the norm
20:17:50  alicemercer ->  no seperate work books, and printed in color
20:18:03  alicemercer ->  JW, Calif tried to deal with that.
20:18:03  JenniferW ->  and demand that they have current information and NOT outdated textbooks
20:18:16  JenniferW ->  its a huge mindset change
20:18:22  alicemercer ->  The back pack issue, cause there are no lockers in most schools anymore
20:18:31  JenniferW ->  and people are refusing to budge from the comfort zone and the "norm"
20:18:58  JenniferW ->  we could start a REVOLUTION..........I don't mind being a Norma Rae
20:19:05  Gary ->  Text books have a use but they become outdated so quickly.
20:19:07  alicemercer ->  JW, the publisher were going to be required to split books into volumes
20:19:10  alicemercer ->  which is more money
20:19:23  JenniferW ->  it will not go away until people REFUSE to purchase
20:19:28  alicemercer ->  Well, there is a new adoption every 4-5 years here
20:19:31  JenniferW ->  just like gas prices -- sorry
20:19:38  alicemercer ->  State pays for half...
20:19:53  alicemercer ->  JW, I hear ya
20:20:12  JenniferW ->  we might gripe -- but the admin still buys --
20:20:23  JenniferW ->  I hate the weight kids are carrying in the backpacks
20:20:36  alicemercer ->  Well, the stuff at colleges is a laugh. Those readers cost a ton
20:20:44  alicemercer ->  And university is making money.
20:20:50  alicemercer ->  And professors too.
20:21:03  JenniferW ->  its a HORRID circle
20:21:21  alicemercer ->  They complained about publishers, but now the university has gotten into the biz with readers.
20:21:31  susant ->  school in 4 hrs!  bye all
20:21:39  Gary ->  Parents often want textbooks - one reason - so that they can take their kids on a holidy and the teacher can tell them what pages to cover.
20:21:45  JenniferW ->  How will ETT graciously accept the award when they are hosting the awards??
20:21:46  alicemercer ->  Adios Susan
20:21:55  alicemercer ->  Gary, well there is that.
20:22:08  alicemercer ->  I like online resources, but this is the funny thing...
20:22:24  JenniferW ->  This was an EXCELLENT discussion
20:22:29  Gary ->  I am not joking - they actually that question.
20:22:35  alicemercer ->  THe pub is not puttting up stuff. so like my son forgets his vocab and spelling list and has homework
20:22:44  JenniferW ->  ahhh John doesn't want an hourly commitment  :)
20:22:52  alicemercer ->  So I find resources from Matt Needleman and put up by teachers to get teh darn list
20:23:29  alicemercer ->  Shouldn't publisher have that on the internet?
20:23:34  alicemercer ->  And not in PDF format?
20:24:07  alicemercer ->  Once again no Doug
20:24:12  JenniferW ->  No Doug??
20:24:22  JenniferW ->  and is there not Teacher Talk on Thursday ??
20:24:43  JenniferW ->  ahhh okay
20:24:47  JenniferW ->  thank you
20:25:00  alicemercer ->  It's ELementary is on, when?
20:25:03  alicemercer ->  12/10?
20:25:05  JenniferW ->  Good show - thanks
20:25:11  alicemercer ->  Not tomorrow I hope, lol
20:25:18  JenniferW ->  and Jen -- thanks for coming to see my new place!!
20:25:28  Gary ->  Nice format change.
20:27:00  dave ->  'night folks
20:27:03  dave ->  thanks Gary
20:27:32  JenniferW ->  do we have a time for the edublog awards??
20:28:42  jeff ->  2130GMT Dec. 8 (I think)
20:28:54  jeff ->  1:30pm PST
20:28:56  JenniferW ->  okay --
20:29:44  JenniferW ->  so if my wiki wins -- should I accept or should MacsMom show up in Second Life??  :)
20:30:45  JenniferW ->  wowow   1.5 hours with you all tonight.  Nice!!!
20:30:49  alicemercer ->  I don't have a presence in second life, is there an audio only stream
20:30:59  JenniferW ->  Good night everyone!!  I do like the extra conversation!!
20:31:03  jeff ->  for edublogs, yes
20:31:14  jeff ->  we'll be on ETT A and Ustream (we hope)
20:31:24  alicemercer ->  Excellent, thank you
20:31:25  JenM ->  Jeff: here it is http://montereyinstitute.org/index.html
20:33:43  Cathy E ->  night all
20:34:35  alicemercer ->  So Jeff, I can watch ustream even if I'm not in Second Life?
20:34:41  jeff ->  yes
20:35:06  alicemercer ->  Awesome thanks for info. Many nonSL types are wondering WTH to do.
20:35:14  alicemercer ->  I'll try to share on my blog too.
20:35:37  alicemercer ->  I'm not ready to make that SL leap yet
20:35:51  alicemercer ->  Maybe next summer?