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EdTechWeekly #69
March 16, 2008

Chat Log Below


18:28:18  JL ->  Hey Matt
18:29:16  JL ->  Don't think I mentioned it during the earthcast meeting, but you're doing an awesome job of getting things together.
18:45:12  courosa ->  Church of EdTechWeekly
18:45:27  courosa ->  watch out for Anonymous
18:47:58  courosa ->  other than $$$
18:48:27  courosa ->  30G = maybe 60 licenses annually
18:48:49  courosa ->  yes, it works, and is easy, but the price is still ridiculous
18:49:34  courosa ->  agreed
18:49:48  courosa ->  yea, it has issues
18:49:53  courosa ->  too much flash
18:49:59  courosa ->  breeze is not much different
18:50:03  courosa ->  audio is poor
18:50:54  courosa ->  adobe breeze/connect works fine for groups under 10
18:51:12  courosa ->  1/2 to 1/3 price of elluminate
18:52:05  courosa ->  ability to manage permissions better
18:52:24  courosa ->  but i prefer my ustream/skype conferences better than the elluminate ones
18:52:34  courosa ->  but its' a pain to set that up for the "average" presenter
18:53:10  courosa ->  yugma skype is promising
18:54:17  matt montagne ->  I'm back here...
18:54:25  matt montagne ->  thanks for props, Jeff
18:54:30  matt montagne ->  much appreciated...
18:54:43  JL ->  right back at you :)
18:57:12  sharonp ->  audio sounds great
18:57:34  sharonp ->  Earth DAy
18:57:38  sharonp ->  yup
18:57:44  sharonp ->  someone beat you to it
18:57:49  sharonp ->  just sending out email now to the ladies
18:58:04  matt montagne ->  @sharon--Thank you!!!
18:59:06  sharonp ->  Earth Day just sounds like the way to go... all the cool kids will be doing it
18:59:17  sharonp ->  Dave is always loud
19:00:50  sharonp ->  LOL
19:01:05  dougsymington ->  opps
19:01:11  dougsymington ->  lost ustream
19:01:20  JL ->  sorry - my oops
19:01:23  sharonp ->  yeah, Doug they dropped out for a little bit
19:01:47  dougsymington ->  woohoo, there's that record button thing again....
19:01:50  Gary ->  Start - stop both begin with st
19:01:52  loonyhiker ->  ustream is faster than audio stream. lost ustream and went to audio and the same conversation was going that i just heard lol
19:02:24  courosa ->  hey all
19:02:30  jolas ->  yes, i don't like being behind so I switched back to ustream
19:02:37  courosa ->  doug, i have a phd student who signed up already
19:02:48  loonyhiker ->  hey y'all
19:02:49  dave ->  http://techdirt.com/articles/20080312/024459514.shtml
19:02:56  PeggyG ->  lost my ustream video--do I need to restart?
19:03:41  JL ->  possibly - try clicking play again
19:04:08  JenM ->  http://www.twiddla.com/ ... and ... http://www.twiddla.com/11768
19:04:29  dave ->  http://www.twiddla.com/11827
19:04:46  courosa ->  was never able to get the audio working
19:04:52  courosa ->  did you get the audio working?
19:05:23  courosa ->  it never worked for us
19:05:45  JL ->   Earthcast 2008   http://enviroscims.wikispaces.com/Earth+Day
19:05:51  dougsymington ->  @courosa great to hear re student signing up. earthcast08 energy is building
19:06:30  courosa ->  @doug she may need help, will pass along your contact I think
19:06:44  JohnS ->  Kentucky Lawmaker Wants to Make Anonymous Internet Posting Illegal: http://www.wtvq.com/content/midatlantic/tvq/video.apx.-content-articles-...
19:06:46  dougsymington ->  yes please do
19:07:11  JL ->  Matt, if you can stick around for the post-show, please skype in and tell us more
19:07:22  courosa ->  $500 fine for first offense, $1000 after that ... for just posting anonymously
19:07:24  courosa ->  crazy
19:07:30  sharonp ->  wow
19:07:35  Gary ->  Just use his information
19:07:35  dougsymington ->  try enforcing that one
19:07:40  sharonp ->  Dave would be in debt SO FAST!
19:07:57  James.Sigler ->  :D
19:08:14  dave ->  http://www.itworld.com/Career/1909/dirty-jobs-080314/
19:08:22  matt montagne ->  @jeff...got it...no problem...
19:08:59  sharonp ->  what a great job title to threaten lazy students with!!
19:09:09  JenM ->  http://www.awesomehighlighter.com/ ... and ... http://awurl.com/symseu15218
19:09:12  dougsymington ->  Idiana Jones does IT
19:09:22  dave ->  not sure what just happened to my tongue :P
19:09:29  Durff ->  I'm SOOO excited ustream works!!!!
19:09:30  dougsymington ->  hey @Durff
19:09:35  Durff ->  hey
19:09:57  JL ->  http://sites.google.com/   Google Sites
19:10:16  sharonp ->  Jeff one must pay for it
19:10:27  JenM ->  http://www.google.com/apps/business/index.html
19:10:28  sharonp ->  but I have one..... if anyone wants an invite
19:10:45  sharonp ->  bundles everything...
19:10:45  courosa ->  i signed up, google sites screwed up my old google calendar
19:10:53  sharonp ->  uh oh
19:10:57  dougsymington ->  messes settings if you were already using apps then went to sites
19:11:03  sharonp ->  better check my calendar....
19:11:08  lee ann ->  HI everyone
19:11:14  courosa ->  basically gives you domain specific group features
19:11:17  sharonp ->  Hi Lee Ann
19:11:18  maureen ->  I don't really understand it yet- attending a webinar on Tuesday
19:11:26  courosa ->  uregina.ca, something.edu, etc.
19:11:36  JL ->  http://research.google.com/video.html  
19:11:55  JohnS ->  Copyright Confusion is Shortchanging our Students: http://www.edweek.org/login.html?source=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edweek.org%2Few... and Copyright and Fair Use Guidelines for Teachers: http://www.mediafestival.org/copyrightchart.html and eTech Copyright Law Presentation: http://www.trustyetc.com/trustyblog/2008/03/12/etech-copyright-law-prese...
19:12:37  courosa ->  and there was recently a class action law suit against the RIAA
19:12:38  Durff ->  hi alice
19:12:41  James.Sigler ->  I like the Google site.  It looks good for a classroom page.
19:12:51  alicemercer ->  Can you redo the chart link
19:12:53  courosa ->  for harrasing innocent people
19:12:54  alicemercer ->  I just got in?
19:13:07  Durff ->  the search page is good for primary
19:13:24  Durff ->  less stuff to distract young eyes
19:13:32  Durff ->  hi lee
19:13:47  James.Sigler ->  @Durff A kid-friendly Google search page?
19:13:51  Durff ->  hi cindy
19:13:59  dave ->  http://www.teenchatdecoder.com/parental-lookup/teenchat-a.html
19:14:00  alicemercer ->  Hey, I saw something interesting.  A picture over 100+ years owned by a Historical society that came with copyright and asked that you get permission to use image
19:14:08  Durff ->  yes the search page james
19:14:33  James.Sigler ->  @Durff How do I get to it?
19:14:46  dougsymington ->  love it, does it come in a ring?
19:14:48  sharonp ->  wow rofl
19:14:58  courosa ->  lulz!
19:15:01  Durff ->  @james http://www.google.com/webhp
19:15:01  Gary ->  And you can fake being a teenager?
19:15:08  JenM ->  EVENTS: http://www.aera.net/meetings/Default.aspx?menu_id=342&id=2936 ... and ... http://www.aect.org/events/Orlando/default.asp?clientid=
19:15:10  sharonp ->  idk
19:15:19  ffoxworth ->  Hi! I'm a 1st time visitor.
19:15:20  James.Sigler ->  Thanks Durff
19:15:35  sharonp ->  Hi ffoxworth - are you listening too?
19:15:45  alicemercer ->  Gary, why would you want to be a teenager?
19:15:47  Durff ->  ro jen old-scho means older than she is
19:15:55  alicemercer ->  I mean it was so much fun the first time, right?
19:15:58  Durff ->  that is like everyone
19:16:00  ffoxworth ->  Yes, I am!  Left my microphone at school though.
19:16:13  Gary ->  Alice - no just fake and mess with their minds
19:16:14  JohnS ->  welcome, ffoxworth.
19:16:22  ffoxworth ->  Thanks!
19:16:23  JL ->  http://www.speaklike.com/home   SpeakLike: Home
19:16:25  dougsymington ->  @ffoxworth welcome
19:16:53  JL ->  http://www.pixton.com/home  Pixton™ - The User-Generated Comic Strip
19:16:56  alicemercer ->  Gary, don't you have better things to do? Oh you mean when they are messing with yours, you mess back?
19:17:02  JenM ->  durff :)
19:17:17  Gary ->  Alice - exactly
19:17:20  Durff ->  ah to young again
19:17:38  dave ->  http://khokanson.blogspot.com/2008/01/greatest-things-ive-ever-learned.html
19:17:49  dave ->  http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/765
19:17:54  Gary ->  If a teenager is confused they are probably learning something
19:17:55  alicemercer ->  Falling in love as a teenager was an intense experience, but I wouldn't want to delve to deeply back into that.
19:18:16  dougsymington ->  see JL's comment at Alec's post for Windows info
19:18:17  JohnS ->  NEWSPAPERS - USA AND WORLDWIDE: http://www.refdesk.com/paper.html
19:18:42  JenM ->  http://edublogs.org/2008/03/11/simply-create-blogs-and-usernames-for-you...
19:19:10  alicemercer ->  One page setting up 15 at once is new
19:19:13  matt montagne ->  anyone out there using edublogs campus?
19:19:21  alicemercer ->  And students were supposed to be on learner blogs
19:19:26  JL ->  http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2008/elasticmind/#/118/   Design and the Elastic Mind
19:19:32  James.Sigler ->  cool
19:19:53  cindyseibel ->  @alec - ryan would like that link
19:19:54  alicemercer ->  For primary/elementary: Scholastic News will soon have RSS: http://mizmercer.edublogs.org/2008/03/06/integrating-the-internet-into-t...
19:20:07  Durff ->  they studied art - can you tell?
19:20:14  JL ->  http://make3d.stanford.edu/  Make3D --- convert your image into 3d
19:20:21  Durff ->  hi kathy
19:20:39  JohnS ->  gOS: http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html and Linpus lite: http://www.linpus.com/xampp/webmaster/Products/Linux9.4Lite.htm and OLPC Live CD: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/LiveCd
19:20:43  sendkathy ->  hi durff!
19:20:53  courosa ->  http://windowseat.ca/viscosity/
19:20:54  James.Sigler ->  @alice cool!  We do Scholastic News each week.  I could add it to our class web page
19:21:00  alicemercer ->  Yep!
19:21:04  matt montagne ->  go eeePC!!!
19:21:06  dougsymington ->  Go John
19:21:11  sharonp ->  @sendkathy - do you have your XOs yet? Found a great user manual online for them
19:21:22  dougsymington ->  THAT'S WHAT I
19:21:24  alicemercer ->  In my ongoing jihad to bring RSS feeds to elementary content providers.
19:21:28  dougsymington ->  sorry
19:21:33  matt montagne ->  I just started plunking about with ubuntu...I really like it...
19:21:38  dougsymington ->  I get excited re eeepc
19:21:39  sendkathy ->  @sharon, no, had yet another email explaining they are delayed :(
19:21:51  alicemercer ->  BUT, JS, those old machines are HUGE!
19:21:59  sendkathy ->  But I'll take the link and save it in hope they arrive sooner than later
19:22:02  alicemercer ->  Laptops are small (and breakable too, but...)
19:22:07  sharonp ->  @sendkathy - http://en.flossmanuals.net/OLPC_simple/AboutComputers
19:22:10  sendkathy ->  thx
19:22:11  alicemercer ->  YES!
19:22:13  JL ->  http://www.windowseat.ca/viscosity/   viscosity - the modern art generator
19:22:13  matt montagne ->  I'm with you on the eeePC doug...
19:22:16  courosa ->  or runn Puppy Linux
19:22:21  dougsymington ->  but you could have one in every room
19:22:24  alicemercer ->  JS is right, and Dave is right
19:22:32  sharonp ->  @sendkathy - don't have mine yet either - am borrowing one from where I work
19:22:33  matt montagne ->  or end up in the landfill!!
19:22:41  Durff ->  is dave being antagonistic again?
19:22:41  Alvin Trusty ->  I run Freevo on a 1998 laptop... that's the size of a laptop
19:22:50  dave ->  http://www.fromoldbooks.org/
19:22:53  dougsymington ->  it's all on the web (or should be) anyway
19:22:56  alicemercer ->  Can it run Flash? That is what you need.
19:22:58  loonyhiker ->  3 years ago all my computers were windows 3.1 aaargh
19:22:59  courosa ->  or Dave, run thin client K12LTSP
19:23:01  JohnS ->  Dave's like that.
19:23:03  alicemercer ->  NOT productivity apps.
19:23:06  sendkathy ->  @sharonp very frustrating, hope they come in before May 23 when the school year ends
19:23:11  matt montagne ->  computer manufacturers need to start producing devices that last 5-8 years...not 2-3
19:23:16  alicemercer ->  I want Flash, and once you get that, your good
19:23:23  sendkathy ->  @sharonp, any more news on twb?
19:23:23  JohnS ->  Yeah, thin client is also a possibility. I just haven't had a lot of success with it in the past.
19:23:24  alicemercer ->  you're good, sorry
19:23:26  sharonp ->  @sendkathy - how frustrating!
19:23:40  JenM ->  Access Media Away From Home: http://www.cyberlinklive.com/
19:23:43  alicemercer ->  @JS, will they run Flash apps?
19:23:49  courosa ->  http://k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
19:23:51  cindyseibel ->  @matt - not just the h/w - we're often driven by s/w changes (and expectations
19:23:58  dougsymington ->  @alicemercer yes re flash
19:24:01  JohnS ->  The eeepc does. I'm still downloading the others, so I haven't tried them yet.
19:24:12  James.Sigler ->  @ JohnS I have played around with thin clients but haven't had much luck either
19:24:21  sharonp ->  @sendkathy - yes, am meeting with South Africans in skype conference tomorrow - had a converasation today with a South African - have some big crazy ideas of what I want to do
19:24:29  JohnS ->  I do think it's all about expectations
19:24:37  JL ->  http://www.searchme.com/    Searchme, Inc.
19:24:50  matt montagne ->  @cindy...agreed...but manfuactuers need to think of entire product life cycles in a radically different way (IMHO)
19:25:01  sendkathy ->  @jeff I posted my what is ett
19:25:05  JL ->  http://www.bubbl.us/index  bubbl.us - free web application for brainstorming online
19:25:06  JohnS ->  Google Sky: hands on, plus Top 10 uncommonly cool sights: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080315-google-sky-hands-on-plus-t...
19:25:16  JL ->  Thanks Cathy
19:25:25  alicemercer ->  I'm spoiled, we now have a district license for kidspiration/inspiration
19:25:29  cindyseibel ->  @matt oh yes..  unfortunately still driven by corporate in the edu space...  until the eee came along
19:25:34  sendkathy ->  I was going to do the VT but then I got carried away and it was way too long to read!
19:25:37  JohnS ->  Beatles on iTunes: http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/03/08/mccartney_cashes_i...
19:25:50  matt montagne ->  hooray for beatles on iTunes!!!
19:25:51  courosa ->  you mean Michael Jackson signed the deal
19:25:57  matt montagne ->  $2.99 a song??
19:25:59  Durff ->  he wanted $$$
19:26:24  dave ->  Creative
19:26:34  alicemercer ->  Anyone else use Rhapsody yet?
19:26:43  dave ->  http://www.creativedocs.net/
19:26:52  JohnS ->  Kind of a big deal b/c there's been a long standing feud between Apple Corps (Beatles record company) and Apple Computer.
19:26:54  alicemercer ->  I found more songs on it for xmas presents for DH
19:26:56  matt montagne ->  is there a "Paint" like program for mac OS?
19:27:07  dougsymington ->  funny, I use Paint nearly daily as well
19:27:19  alicemercer ->  I use PaintShopPro more
19:27:21  matt montagne ->  besides using gimpshop?
19:27:37  dougsymington ->  the comparable app (to Paint) on the eeepc is fun too
19:27:37  alicemercer ->  But some things in GIMP are better, I haven't gotten up to speed yet.
19:27:44  Alvin Trusty ->  I'm still using PSP 3.12 every day.
19:27:46  matt montagne ->  I wish there was a simple paint/draw progrram for mac...
19:27:48  JenM ->  http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihhU7Nv2T3xNTLz3aernz_etPU3AD8V1H2RG0 ... and ... http://www.singlesexschools.org/home.php
19:27:51  alicemercer ->  It is THAT phleghm time of year lord knows.
19:28:17  sendkathy ->  allergy season!
19:28:20  courosa ->  http://tuxpaint.org is cross platform
19:28:22  alicemercer ->  I have a new student from tennessee, says "mam" alot, so quaint
19:28:36  James.Sigler ->  I pity the boy's teacher
19:28:40  alicemercer ->  @courosa, I dont' need cross platform.
19:28:49  matt montagne ->  not a bad idea
19:28:55  alicemercer ->  My sister did single sex hs and liked it.
19:28:59  courosa ->  tuxpaint works fine on the mac matt
19:29:02  sendkathy ->  I'm a fan of ss schools but I think it should be personal choice not mandatory
19:29:02  alicemercer ->  OTOH...
19:29:08  loonyhiker ->  how do we teach the kids to interact appropriately by keeping them separate?
19:29:08  sharonp ->  studies have shown that coed is best.... but of course research can be interpreted both ways
19:29:26  cindyseibel ->  does parent choice play here?
19:29:31  ffoxworth ->  @alicemercer I'm from SC...we're all products of our culture, and the South definitely has a unique culture!
19:29:39  alicemercer ->  You don't always learn social skills. LIke a straight friend went to single sex college, and hasn't enver learned to date effectively imho
19:29:42  James.Sigler ->  I've tried it once in 6th grade.  Great with girl.  Trouble with boys.
19:29:44  sharonp ->  it really depends on the student
19:29:49  sendkathy ->  i attended a coed college and then a ss college and preferred ss, I was more focused on school during the day and fraternities during the evening!
19:29:50  loonyhiker ->  i'm from SC too! we definitely have a unique culture! lol
19:29:50  Durff ->  i thought that was only 8th and 9th graders that were doing better in single gender classrooms?
19:30:06  courosa ->  social indoctrination
19:30:12  alicemercer ->  Unique is the word
19:30:29  ffoxworth ->  @loonyhiker Where do you hike?
19:30:32  courosa ->  agreed
19:30:33  James.Sigler ->  got to go eat supper
19:30:39  James.Sigler ->  Night
19:30:44  dougsymington ->  cya James
19:30:46  Durff ->  enjoy
19:30:54  loonyhiker ->  @ffoxworth SC, GA, NC, TN
19:30:59  kconger ->  Born and raised in Tennesee myself.  Manners used to be highly regarded...not so much any longer it seems.
19:31:08  Durff ->  was jen a tomboy?
19:31:09  cindyseibel ->  had same experience in IT - male-dominated field
19:31:10  PeggyG ->  I've read a lot about single sex schools/classrooms and there are people who strongly defend both points of view--good/bad.
19:31:11  dougsymington ->  how can it not turn into ghettoization?
19:31:18  JohnS ->  Jen's still a tomboy
19:31:37  Durff ->  i think we can make fun of people either way
19:31:39  courosa ->  I had the dream internship, 8 intelligent grad 12 girls ... all went on to be lawyers, doctors, etc. .. amazing what can be done in a classroom without dating distractions
19:31:41  alicemercer ->  Many in single sex college are gay, how does that affect them, lol? They aren't segregated from their objects of longing.
19:31:43  cindyseibel ->  I agree - what's right for the learner
19:31:45  PeggyG ->  I'm also aware of schools that have offered single sex classrooms at a certain grade level with parents making the choice
19:31:46  sharonp ->  it really depends on the student - as I said before - frankly, for all three of my kids (coed) coed was best choice
19:31:48  matt montagne ->  some of our classes are single sex in our middle school
19:31:50  sendkathy ->  Jen, I agree
19:31:51  jolas ->  my dd (14) thinks it would be good for science class.
19:31:53  sendkathy ->  personal issue
19:32:25  alicemercer ->  Yeah, Seperate but equal has rarely been equal?
19:32:25  Durff ->  think a nerve was hit? chatroom flying
19:32:45  Gary ->  Is this similar to single religious schools or a different topic?
19:32:48  JohnS ->  Right. That's the point. The supreme court ruled that separate can't be equal
19:32:50  alicemercer ->  Sister's high school did  not have as much in science ed
19:32:52  PeggyG ->  I don't think it's just about pouring in knowledge and keeping the kids focused. Some students blossom in single sex classrooms and participate/engage even more when they're not worried about impressing the opposite sex.
19:32:56  courosa ->  @alice and i am not sure if it should be equal, but more distinct to needs
19:33:26  loonyhiker ->  do boys learn woodworking and girls learn sewing? lol
19:33:35  alicemercer ->  I have no firm, clear opinon, but a lot of random ideas to add, lol
19:33:37  JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/node/3056   What is EdTechTalk? Why do you participate?
19:33:42  sendkathy ->  Some of us felt very sensitive about sexual harrassment from boys in elementary, middle and hs who frankly didn't know any better, still goes on, they copy their parents example. I see it all the time.  Some handle it better than others. that's why i think it's a personal issue.
19:33:44  maureen ->  Can web 2.0 tools, ie blogs, using moodle, etc. help the gender divide? I know some of our classes are boy-dominated- louder get more attention
19:33:46  JenM ->  All the links for tonight's show are at http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080316
19:33:54  alicemercer ->  HEY, JL how about a VoiceThread for this topic, lol!
19:34:10  dave ->  that lol was for you mercer
19:34:22  cindyseibel ->  thanks very much!  good night
19:34:23  sendkathy ->  welcome
19:34:27  PeggyG ->  So no show next Sunday?
19:34:29  sailsmart ->  why would you have a different academic emphasis?  I do believe the purpose is to encourage participation in young girls who may be overly preoccupied with appearance, self esteem issues instead of academics.
19:34:33  alicemercer ->  Maureen, don't we need to figure out how to include our quieter students?
19:34:36  JohnS ->  Children See, Children Do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO-IjmZae2I
19:34:41  alicemercer ->  Girls, boys, langauge learners?
19:34:49  sendkathy ->  so true
19:34:56  sendkathy ->  monkey see monkey do
19:35:03  dougsymington ->  @alicemercer that's what the backchannel should be used for -- voice inclusion
19:35:24  alicemercer ->  Oh yeah, we have a girl in kinder talking about mommy and step dad's sex practices
19:35:25  courosa ->  i used the video a couple of times this week, good response from audience
19:35:29  sendkathy ->  so true
19:35:30  loonyhiker ->  thanks y'all
19:35:32  maureen ->  @alicemercer yes, but I know that when you also give kids the opportunity to comment online you sometimes hear different voices than in the classroom
19:35:39  PeggyG ->  Thanks! Got the juices flowing! See you in 2 weeks
19:35:41  jolas ->  1st time here, I have been missing out. Thank-you!
19:35:43  alicemercer ->  @maureen YES!
19:35:44  JohnS ->  Skype jschinker
19:35:54  alicemercer ->  That's what happened with podcasting for me
19:35:54  sendkathy ->  you can always hear when a parents voice comes from a child's mouth
19:36:00  sendkathy ->  thx
19:36:03  sailsmart ->  thanks bye
19:36:04  loonyhiker ->  my daughter learned to "shoot a bird" from my hubby lol
19:36:17  sendkathy ->  they learn great words too
19:36:30  alicemercer ->  Same sex schools!
19:36:43  alicemercer ->  No for the comments on Same Sex Schools!
19:36:48  PeggyG ->  Can you give the VT link again for the comments?
19:37:05  alicemercer ->  That's what I meant, since he always wants to set up a VT. I thought I was the VT queen
19:37:08  sendkathy ->  I know jen doesn't care for VT
19:37:17  sendkathy ->  no one has posted I just checked
19:37:22  Durff ->  go alice!
19:37:22  alicemercer ->  Yeah, well it' has it's place!
19:37:33  Durff ->  hi cheryl
19:37:40  sendkathy ->  I'm not a huge fan either but I am a paying member
19:37:42  lee baber ->  grand news
19:37:44  cherylsweb20 ->  hello
19:37:49  JenM ->  VT is nice, but I hate the requirement for registration :(
19:37:50  alicemercer ->  What was that one tools where folks would leave audio comments?
19:37:54  sendkathy ->  ooo gotta go get my pizza! bye all
19:38:05  alicemercer ->  JM: you can create sub identities
19:38:23  Durff ->  in VT
19:38:23  alicemercer ->  You want me to call?
19:38:25  PeggyG ->  create sub identities on VT
19:38:33  dougsymington ->  gotta run crew
19:38:38  dougsymington ->  take care all
19:38:39  lee baber ->  bye dave
19:38:40  PeggyG ->  Thanks all!
19:38:50  cherylsweb20 ->  bye
19:38:51  sharonp ->  have a great couple of weeks
19:39:04  Durff ->  he is being too sweet - out of character
19:39:11  dougsymington ->  talk to you all soon--yes, Happy Easter all
19:39:12  maureen ->  VT create different IDs for all the kids
19:39:16  Durff ->  i did not criticise you VT
19:39:30  Durff ->  that was Alice
19:39:32  dougsymington ->  check out the VT on the Earth Day wiki too
19:41:48  maureen ->  @alicemercer can you create folders for these IDs, I have 7 classes of kids on VT- makes me and them nuts finding their IDs
19:42:22  Durff ->  i make mine use my id on vt - easier for us
19:42:35  Durff ->  only one mic anyway
19:42:59  maureen ->  @durff they like their little avatars, one mic
19:43:15  alicemercer ->  Hey, I'm guessing you all talked about the the mini-Legends earlier?
19:43:39  Durff ->  we created avatars on portrait illustrator
19:43:51  alicemercer ->  @maureen, REALLY? Darn! I asked VT about creating seperate classes, but they didn't mention that
19:44:02  alicemercer ->  @Durff: remember NO cigarettes!
19:44:11  Durff ->  on not on vt alice
19:44:33  Durff ->  it was a lollypop
19:45:22  Durff ->  quicktime still not working but says negotiating now surely this is progress
19:45:23  maureen ->  @alicenercer- no I have all 100+ identities under my name and we switch when we switch kids- pain
19:45:40  Durff ->  ooo it works!
19:45:45  Durff ->  loudly
19:46:03  alicemercer ->  @maureen, I have seperate logins for each grade levels, but I create the VT on my teacher account
19:46:07  PeggyG ->  Parents as Partners is off to a great start! Really enjoy participating-Joyce Epstein was fantastic!
19:46:17  JenM ->  Tom out of the closet ... muting my mic ... :)
19:46:17  alicemercer ->  So I don't run into the limits on # of VT
19:46:30  alicemercer ->  Alternating with It's Elementary!
19:46:31  Durff ->  hi tom
19:46:48  JenM ->  hi, back to Durff ;)
19:46:52  Durff ->  ooo realplayer working now
19:46:53  alicemercer ->  Tell them they are welcome Matt to hear about what kids can learn
19:47:25  alicemercer ->  @maureen, did that make sense about VT?
19:47:36  Durff ->  hmm i wonder if someone's grandkids were visiting upstairs and using up all the bandwidth?
19:47:58  alicemercer ->  Hey CathyE I was sharing issue with Portrait Illustrator.
19:48:03  JenM ->  hi, CathyE!
19:48:08  PeggyG ->  Matt-I think that gradual approach to bringing in parents to other venues makes a lot of sense.
19:48:08  JenM ->  just in time :)
19:48:10  alicemercer ->  The cigarette accessry
19:48:20  maureen ->  @alicemercer haven't run into limits yet... I have the one teacher account to log in and then all the kids with photos or first names/no photo
19:48:27  Cathy e ->  Hello All - I've missed ya!
19:48:40  Durff ->  okay, clicking media player is not a good idea
19:48:46  Durff ->  hi cathy
19:48:51  Durff ->  where you been?
19:48:56  alicemercer ->  Not limits on identities, but on VTs. If it's not a teacher account, you are limited to the number of VTs
19:49:15  Durff ->  i don't know
19:49:16  alicemercer ->  But it's easier to have a seperate login for each grade level.
19:49:22  JenM ->  how many are eating corned beef and cabbage?
19:49:28  Durff ->  i had mine before all those changes
19:49:38  JohnS ->  Irish ale? does that count?
19:49:45  maureen ->  OK I guess I have solved the limit problem and created an identity problem with the way I do it
19:49:53  Durff ->  green shakes?
19:50:09  JenM ->  yum ... tom slow cooked the CB and cabbage all day ... yummy!
19:50:27  Durff ->  did they make my VT an educator account for me?
19:50:50  Durff ->  grandfather me in so to speak?
19:50:51  alicemercer ->  @Maureen yes.
19:50:52  JohnS ->  I forgot about the green shakes! I need to get one this week.
19:51:02  JenM ->  Irish soda bread, too ...
19:51:23  alicemercer ->  @maureen, but if you create a seperate login for each grade or class, then you keep the ids cleaner.
19:51:43  maureen ->  @durff I think you have to ask- hit the go pro button then the k-12
19:51:49  alicemercer ->  @maureen, then just make the VT under your teacher login
19:51:50  Durff ->  ok
19:52:07  maureen ->  @alicemercer you're right
19:52:30  alicemercer ->  @maureen, well not RIGHT, but one way to handle it
19:52:51  JL ->  http://enviroscims.wikispaces.com/Earth+Day
19:53:14  JL ->  http://enviroscims.wikispaces.com/earthcast08+VoiceThread
19:54:30  Durff ->  thinking of Al Upton
19:54:42  Durff ->  in NZ or Australia?
19:54:52  Durff ->  alice would know
19:55:00  lindanitsche ->  Australia
19:55:08  alicemercer ->  Any place but I know Australia is a center of that
19:55:33  Durff ->  see i knew other people would know
19:56:51  lindanitsche ->  I am hopeful that he is able to have a conversation about the situation rather than the Big Brother type of response he has had
19:57:02  matt montagne ->  thanks for plugging everyone! 
19:58:10  JenM ->  Alice :)
19:58:28  Durff ->  bye!
19:59:13  JenM ->  Make your own ETW via VoiceThread :)
19:59:27  JenM ->  nite all!