EdTechWeekly#84

EdTechWeekly #84
July 6, 2008



18:42:00  Gary ->  Hello
18:42:59  Gary ->  Probably but .... since I am retired many of the things may be uselsss
18:43:39  Gary ->  That comes from teaching biology/science for so long - full of questions
18:46:14  Gary ->  Too late Dave
18:48:47  JohnS ->  Hey, Jdub.
18:48:57  JenW ->  Hey JS
18:49:08  JL ->  http://edugrids.org/book/davecormier/ed366h-syllabus
18:50:29  JenW ->  question.................
18:50:43  JohnS ->  hmm?
18:50:49  JenW ->  powerpoint   -- should you not say Presentation program
18:50:54  JenW ->  since you are NOT listing specific softwares
18:51:28  JenW ->  since you say NO NECESSARY SOFTWARE
18:51:43  JenW ->  smiles -- ahhhhhh I disagree.........this is a chance to train them
18:51:48  JenW ->  with new vocabulary
18:51:55  JenW ->  grins -- semantics
18:52:07  Gary ->  PowerPoint - what is that if you have a Mac?
18:52:17  JenW ->  then it is PowerPoint -- or Presentation Program
18:52:23  JenW ->  or slide show
18:52:30  JenW ->  or ........   :)  want me to continue
18:52:32  JenW ->  :)
18:52:41  JenW ->  Mac goes PP too
18:53:01  JenW ->  today in Wall-E -- when he got the sunpower he needed -- he booted with the Mac on sound -- Made me laugh
18:53:13  JohnS ->  A Major chord
18:53:24  Gary ->  Yes but maybe a better option......
18:53:33  JenW ->  I love -- I use - I endorse powerpoint.
18:53:53  JenW ->  I just thought if they say no specific software -- and they say word-pocessing and they say email -- then they should not use powerpoint
18:54:04  JenW ->  In My Humble Opinion -- which actually NO ONE asked for   :)
18:54:38  JenW ->  smilies -- the new 2007??
18:54:41  JenW ->  or the 2008??
18:54:59  JenW ->  My students, my teachers still use 2003 -- and we are content
18:55:08  Justin K. Reeve ->  Hi everyone
18:55:32  JenW ->  and I have to admit -- since I took my sessions to WIKI's -- I have not made a Powerpoint in a LONG time
18:55:39  JenW ->  for personal/professional use
18:55:43  Justin K. Reeve ->  Greetings mrsdurff
18:56:03  JenW ->  poor Bill -- wondering what he does with all his time now?   LOL
18:56:14  mrsdurff ->  hi juatin
18:56:22  Justin K. Reeve ->  whatcha been up to?
18:56:29  mrsdurff ->  no good
18:56:30  Justin K. Reeve ->  sitting around being awesome, like me? ;)
18:56:33  mrsdurff ->  you?
18:56:46  JenW ->  you are promoting the Post Show -- Yee Hah!!
18:56:55  mrsdurff ->  no i am not awesome - speak for yourself
18:56:57  Justin K. Reeve ->  honestly, not been doing a ton.
18:57:11  JenW ->  if you have changed from a drupal to a moodle -- I didn't notice   what should I have looked for
18:57:44  JenW ->  she liked things just right
18:57:51  Cathy E ->  how am I hearing you? 
18:58:02  JenW ->  Cagthy -- it started automatically
18:58:13  mrsdurff ->  Verizon card?
18:58:35  Justin K. Reeve ->  yeah, how do I turn off, turn down, mute, etc. the audio stream?
18:58:35  Cathy E ->  too cool
18:58:51  JenW ->  where's jen??
18:58:54  mrsdurff ->  be pu8nctual
18:59:04  JenW ->  I am all linked out
18:59:38  Justin K. Reeve ->  what sort of links are we looking for?
18:59:41  mrsdurff ->  no comment
18:59:55  John Rundag ->  Is it one from 2 shows ago? ;-)
18:59:56  JenW ->  one minute to go........................   :)
19:00:05  Justin K. Reeve ->  I was playing with this today: http://www.pimpampum.net/bookr
19:00:18  mrsdurff ->  thank you
19:00:20  Justin K. Reeve ->  we never do anyway
19:00:24  mrsdurff ->  no!
19:00:42  JenW ->  Call her Kiddo    :)
19:00:46  Justin K. Reeve ->  Bookr lets you take Flickr photos and organize them into a digital storybook
19:00:51  loonyhiker ->  or MD
19:00:53  mrsdurff ->  look what you started
19:00:57  Justin K. Reeve ->  Would be a useful tool for letting students create photo stories
19:01:00  JenW ->  PhD -- pretty handy dame???
19:01:30  mrsdurff ->  hi jason
19:01:30  loonyhiker ->  we r hanging on yr every word :)
19:01:31  JenW ->  intro
19:01:37  Jason R ->  Greetings
19:02:02  Justin K. Reeve ->  where is everyone in the chat room from?
19:02:08  JenW ->  <----Califonria
19:02:10  Justin K. Reeve ->  I'm from Ogden, Utah.  Weber School District.
19:02:20  mrsdurff ->  JenM is the brightest part
19:02:31  dave ->  http://icot.craftyspace.com/
19:02:35  loonyhiker ->  it always takes a woman! lol
19:02:35  Justin K. Reeve ->  here's my Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/justinreeve   Blog: http://www.justinreeve.com
19:02:41  Cathy E ->  I'm on the east coast of North Carolina
19:02:43  sheila ->  New Hampshire
19:03:22  John Rundag ->  Ohio here
19:03:26  JenW ->  what is the necessity of having to register for this??
19:03:34  Justin K. Reeve ->  don't think there is any advantage
19:03:40  Jason R ->  Why is this on craftyspace.com and not iste.org?
19:03:51  mrsdurff ->  advantages for the company
19:03:59  JenW ->  smiles -- the audience is RESTLESS and ONERY tonight
19:04:02  mrsdurff ->  they want your info
19:04:06  JL ->  http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Fi...
19:04:11  mrsdurff ->  who me?
19:04:19  JL ->  http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/safebrowsing/
19:04:42  JenW ->  Ohhhh, this is what hit David Warlick this past week, for some reason his site was declared unsafe
19:04:55  Justin K. Reeve ->  SafeBrowsing is for Firefox
19:05:10  Justin K. Reeve ->  but it's just an extension you can download
19:05:11  mrsdurff ->  by AVG too Jen
19:05:13  JenW ->  cuz Google labeled him Unsafe
19:05:18  mrsdurff ->  but he fixed it
19:05:31  JenW ->  yeppers===but I think AVG did because google did it first
19:05:37  JL ->  http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1085
19:05:40  mrsdurff ->  ah
19:05:42  JohnS ->  Google Told to Turn Over User Data of YouTube: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/technology/04youtube.html  and No Google source code for Viacom, just 12TB of YouTube data: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080703-viacom-wont-get-googles-so...
19:06:20  JenW ->  hmmmmmm   
19:06:25  JenW ->  because?????
19:06:48  John Rundag ->  are they going to email it? ;-)
19:06:51  mrsdurff ->  those who have uploaded or viewed youtube videos please raise your hand
19:06:56  JohnS ->  No Google source code for Viacom, just 12TB of YouTube data: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080703-viacom-wont-get-googles-so...
19:07:00  JenW ->  I have viewed
19:07:10  mrsdurff ->  we all have i think
19:07:25  JenW ->  don't understand why viacom is part of this???
19:07:27  John Rundag ->  was on YouTube this morning
19:08:01  JenW ->  I mean there is ton of illegal uploads............are they going to go after ALL those people??
19:08:11  mrsdurff ->  are they claiming copyright infringement of their materials?
19:08:15  JenW ->  (not saying they should be able to upload illegal)
19:08:18  JenW ->  but -- wow
19:08:41  dave ->  http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/07/02/broadband.study.ap/index.html?e...
19:08:46  Justin K. Reeve ->  According to the DMCA as long as YouTube promptly removes copyrighted material, they are operating legally
19:08:51  Justin K. Reeve ->  Viacom is basically contesting this
19:09:09  JenW ->  <-----is going back to dialup due to price
19:09:10  Justin K. Reeve ->  suggesting that YouTube is too much of a haven for copyrighted material
19:09:13  JenW ->  pray for me   :)
19:09:25  Justin K. Reeve ->  it's ridiculous.  Companies saying "yeah, we support free exchange of information...as long as WE control the exchange"
19:09:26  John Rundag ->  worked on someone's computer today and they had dialup
19:09:44  JenW ->  will do all my downloads at work with the T1 line -- and then will be SLOW at home
19:10:04  Gary ->  Dave - how fast can you say Telus?
19:10:13  John Rundag ->  make sure you download Windows updates at work too!
19:10:34  JenW ->  @john -- yep
19:10:53  JenW ->  but -- I will be paying less for 1 year than what I pay per month
19:11:02  JL ->  http://kevincarmony.blogspot.com/2008/06/xandros-acquires-linspire-asset...
19:11:36  JL ->  http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1373
19:11:45  John Rundag ->  I thought Linspire and Ubuntu had a deal last year?
19:11:59  John Rundag ->  hey now.....
19:12:08  Cathy E ->  @JenW - how much in your time worth?
19:12:11  JohnS ->  Empowering the 21st Century Superintendent: http://superintendentempower.org/
19:12:35  JenW ->  @cathye ---- :)    good question
19:12:49  Gary ->  yes - viruse we get to pass on to Windoze users!
19:12:51  John Rundag ->  i sent this to my new boss!
19:12:53  JenW ->  but do I wish to get out of debt --   be able to make ends meet -- YEP
19:13:42  Justin K. Reeve ->  Linspire and Ubuntu?  I don't think so.
19:13:49  sroseman ->  say that again
19:13:50  JenW ->  can he say them again????
19:14:05  sroseman ->  haha great minds think alike
19:14:05  JenW ->  we did not expect him to be so profound right then
19:14:11  JenW ->  :)
19:14:16  loonyhiker ->  bet he has a cheat sheet! lol
19:14:33  JohnS ->  http://www.iste.org/Content/NavigationMenu/NETS/ForTeachers/2008Standard...
19:14:51  JenW ->  smiles -- he said it quicker the first time   :)
19:15:39  dave ->  he certainly did
19:15:47  JenW ->  4
19:15:48  mrsdurff ->  dave you got him on his soapbox
19:15:53  Justin K. Reeve ->  Four 21st century skills you need: (1) Information literacy, (2) Collaboration, (3) Global view, (4) Innovative thinking
19:16:09  Justin K. Reeve ->  that's a good list
19:16:17  JenW ->  feel good that my projects hit all 4 -- but I am working on making them readable in different languages and not quite sure how to accomplish this
19:16:31  JenW ->  sounds like they stole J.S. work
19:16:34  dave ->  http://youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE
19:16:34  John Rundag ->  @Justin Google Linspire Ubuntu. There is an article from Feb 07
19:16:39  mrsdurff ->  that's dave for ya
19:17:03  JenW ->  5 minutes --- John could do it in 3 -- the first time   :)
19:17:11  mrsdurff ->  his uni of manotoba preso is up now too
19:17:12  JenW ->  10 minutes if we ask him to do it again      :)
19:17:20  JohnS ->  Michael Wesch and the Future of Education : http://umanitoba.ca/ist/production/streaming/podcast_wesch.html
19:17:27  mrsdurff ->  offer him $, Jen
19:17:28  dave ->  http://mediatedcultures.net/
19:17:32  Justin K. Reeve ->  @John oh cool, I didn't know that
19:18:13  John Rundag ->  I think Ubuntu wanted their click and run feature
19:18:27  Justin K. Reeve ->  I didn't realize that's where Ubuntu got it from
19:18:31  Justin K. Reeve ->  that's sweet
19:18:41  JL ->  http://www.drupalcafe.com/
19:18:45  Justin K. Reeve ->  isn't Linspire the Linux OS the state of Indiana uses?
19:18:50  Justin K. Reeve ->  in all the schools?
19:18:54  JenW ->  916 is Sacramento
19:18:59  JenW ->  where is Jen??
19:19:16  JohnS ->  Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1466
19:20:07  John Rundag ->  We looked at Linspire before we chose Ubuntu
19:20:09  JenW ->  hmmmm really???
19:20:17  Justin K. Reeve ->  Out of curiosity, how many of your schools are actually deploying Vista on teacher, student, or administrator workstations?
19:20:28  JenW ->  They were really pushing the new Windows 7 at Bill's going away meeting and his interviews
19:20:32  Justin K. Reeve ->  Linspire does still costs, what, $50?
19:20:46  Gary ->  Backwords compatible?  Nothing new about that.
19:20:50  Cathy E ->  my district is still using XP
19:21:08  Justin K. Reeve ->  same with mine.  The only time we use Vista is when we buy a new laptop for an admin and it comes preinstalled.
19:21:09  JL ->  http://getsongbird.com/
19:21:12  mrsdurff ->  that call was from mizmercer
19:21:14  sheila ->  We are still with  XP
19:21:19  mrsdurff ->  she just called me
19:21:26  JenW ->  I was disappionted though that DELL does not offer downgrades for all there systems for their computers.........only certain ones can go to XP -- all the rest have VISTA
19:21:28  Justin K. Reeve ->  in fact, I have yet to hear of a school that is deploying Vista on the wide scale Microsoft would like to see
19:21:29  JohnS ->  We still use XP, too. no plans to upgrade
19:21:41  JohnS ->  ZoomIt: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897434.aspx
19:21:44  dave ->  damn you firefox3
19:21:51  mrsdurff ->  someone pinch JL- Alice was the 916
19:22:00  dave ->  ummm... darn you i meant
19:22:03  John Rundag ->  not deploying Vista
19:22:07  JenW ->  it isn't post show -- tell Alice - -she has a bit more to wait
19:22:22  JL ->  Thanks Mrs. D - still couldn't answer -John is hosting
19:22:22  mrsdurff ->  she hung up
19:22:24  JenW ->  good Dave -- use that 3 second button to censor yourself    :)
19:22:36  John Rundag ->  better than ZoomText and free!!!
19:22:39  mrsdurff ->  in traffic on the way back from lake tahoe
19:22:44  JohnS ->  http://zaidlearn.blogspot.com/2008/06/university-learning-ocw-oer-free.html
19:22:51  JenW ->  Alice is -- or you???
19:23:10  Jason R ->  Screen zooming is built-in on the Mac. Set up under System Preferences.
19:23:10  mrsdurff ->  i just deliver messages
19:23:19  mrsdurff ->  @Jen alice is
19:23:19  dave ->  http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?ch=specialsections&sc=...
19:23:25  JenW ->  grins -- and another reason to GO MAC!!!
19:23:26  JL ->  How does Mrs. D know these things?
19:23:44  mrsdurff ->  Alice called her on her cell
19:23:44  Jason R ->  I also just added OmniDazzle for some facier effects when doing screen presos.
19:23:56  JenW ->  Durff has interesting ways
19:24:19  mrsdurff ->  we had exchanged info for the show from iste
19:24:45  mrsdurff ->  will those chips make us smarter?
19:24:55  Gary ->  A great deal like reading your horoscope?
19:25:00  JL ->  http://www.globaloria.org/         http://www.swurl.com/       http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2008/06/30/online_collaboration_tools...
19:25:10  sroseman ->  any visuals for this show..oovoo
19:25:13  John Rundag ->  I read somewhere that the human brain can hold 12 TB of data
19:25:23  Jason R ->  Zoomit is a great link though. Needed that for a PC at work. Thanks.
19:25:41  JohnS ->  Lookybook: http://lookybook.com/  and F1 For Kids: http://www.f1forkids.com/
19:25:45  mrsdurff ->  globaloria from closing keynote of necc
19:26:12  Justin K. Reeve ->  lookbook isn't very suited toward reading them
19:26:18  Justin K. Reeve ->  you can read some of them, but often they're quite blurry
19:26:28  Justin K. Reeve ->  it's basically meant more as a service for you to evaluate the books before you buy them
19:26:50  Jason R ->  No, lookybook is for adults to preview a book before committing to purchase. More or less.
19:26:54  dave ->  all links lost, three browser crashes
19:26:57  JL ->  http://www.webcastacademy.com/mod/resource/view.php?id=49
19:27:01  dave ->  doh
19:27:16  John Rundag ->  what are you using, dave?
19:27:20  Justin K. Reeve ->  here's a site my kids love.  YouTube for kids: www.totlol.com
19:27:24  JohnS ->  Lego Digital Designer: http://ldd.lego.com/download/
19:27:39  mrsdurff ->  from the lego man
19:28:57  Jason R ->  Look up BURP for LEGO trivia. Anyone know what that stands for?
19:29:19  JenW ->  WHAT TIME??
19:29:24  mrsdurff ->  7pm
19:29:29  mrsdurff ->  23:00GMT
19:29:36  JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
19:29:36  mrsdurff ->  4pm your time
19:29:44  loonyhiker ->  thanks y'all! Great links tonite. have a good nite
19:30:11  JenW ->  smiles -- actually it is a NECC wrapup -- not a VICKI show -- -but  :)
19:30:17  JenW ->  maybe it will end up being that
19:30:21  mrsdurff ->  he tried
19:30:24  Jason R ->  Thanks
19:30:39  JenW ->  it is Vicki's LAST SHOW
19:30:45  JenW ->  but not dedicated to VICKI
19:30:47  JenW ->  :)
19:30:56  mrsdurff ->  justin
19:31:01  JenW ->  John - you were right ----
19:31:04  mrsdurff ->  that would be him
19:31:06  JenW ->  just not the topic  :)
19:31:09  Justin K. Reeve ->  bwah?
19:31:16  Justin K. Reeve ->  Nonsense.
19:31:20  mrsdurff ->  i blame you for everything
19:31:21  Gary ->  Ways to improve - you guys are great!
19:31:45  Justin K. Reeve ->  Perhaps this alone is an indicator of some inner problems, mrsdurff?
19:31:48  JenW ->  Ohhh -- someone attacked our SUNDAY SHOW???
19:32:01  JenW ->  so you are not experts -- but just sharers??
19:32:07  JenW ->  I am fine with that
19:32:11  JohnS ->  no one attacked anything.
19:32:17  Justin K. Reeve ->  Often the need to blame others so much indicates problems on the INSIDE.
19:32:20  JohnS ->  He just offered some constructive criticism
19:32:22  Justin K. Reeve ->  at least that's what *I* think
19:32:23  JenW ->  smile----someone critiqued??
19:32:43  JohnS ->  mentioned it, really. in passing.
19:32:43  Justin K. Reeve ->  of course, I'm rarely right...
19:32:45  Jason ->  i think that's fair... but i think you need a show both... perhaps another show with more in depth?  3 tools a week or something?
19:32:56  JenW ->  :)       two lines in an email??? 
19:33:09  John Rundag ->  it is up to us as educators to do the research
19:33:14  Justin K. Reeve ->  How many of you here consider yourself adequate or proficient web developers?
19:33:15  JenW ->  hmmmmmm --
19:33:17  Gary ->  We take the time after and share with others.
19:33:18  JenW ->  can we vote???
19:33:26  Jason R ->  This Week in EdTech (TWiET)
19:33:33  JenW ->  I like fast pace -- tons of sites, and let us be the sifters
19:33:37  JohnS ->  That's what this is, Jeff
19:33:46  Cathy E ->  I agree with Jen
19:33:50  Justin K. Reeve ->  @mrsdurff I'd also like to point out that you stalked me here this time
19:33:57  JenW ->  OH no -- am I twitting or am I twietting??
19:34:00  mrsdurff ->  nope
19:34:03  Justin K. Reeve ->  tweeting
19:34:06  Justin K. Reeve ->  'fraid it's true, mrs. d
19:34:09  mrsdurff ->  i ping.d
19:34:16  Justin K. Reeve ->  why isn't it twittering
19:34:18  mrsdurff ->  long before you arrived
19:34:23  Justin K. Reeve ->  yeah, but I got here first
19:34:26  John Rundag ->  I agree with JenW
19:34:28  mrsdurff ->  i just entered the room later
19:34:28  Jason R ->  I just come here for the friendly banter. Remember, style over substance folks. :P
19:34:32  mrsdurff ->  good try
19:34:35  JenW ->  Ohhh -- 3 people AGREE with me!!
19:34:50  Justin K. Reeve ->  I'm sorry, mrsdurff was distracting me.  What were we agreeing on, Jen?
19:34:56  JenW ->  I don't wish to endorse any site -- it might come back and eventually bite me.  I will let you do that   :)
19:34:58  mrsdurff ->  jen i agree with you too
19:35:04  Justin K. Reeve ->  I agreed with jen first
19:35:08  John Rundag ->  The shows that I miss, I go through the delicious links
19:35:11  Justin K. Reeve ->  just kidding :)
19:35:19  Justin K. Reeve ->  yeah, the delicious links are a great tool
19:35:21  Justin K. Reeve ->  could go with diigo, too
19:35:21  JenW ->  ha  :)
19:35:35  mrsdurff ->  see how he is?
19:35:39  Justin K. Reeve ->  I haven't gotten as much into diigo as I have into delicious, though
19:35:43  mrsdurff ->  all necc long....
19:35:47  Justin K. Reeve ->  pffft
19:36:03  Justin K. Reeve ->  it's funny how I'm only like this when mrs. d is around
19:36:14  Justin K. Reeve ->  normally I'm a pleasant enough person
19:36:18  JenW ->  HOWEVER..................
19:36:18  mrsdurff ->  :)
19:36:22  JohnS ->  feel free to skype in (jschinker)
19:36:33  mrsdurff ->  i dare you to call in
19:36:37  JenW ->  ask us if we are content with this show now??
19:36:44  JenW ->  and don't want a change
19:36:48  mrsdurff ->  i am jen
19:36:51  Justin K. Reeve ->  who? me?
19:37:00  JenW ->  we are in control of our substance
19:37:05  Justin K. Reeve ->  I'm a relative newcomer to the show, but I like what I've seen so far
19:37:05  JenW ->  you just place the buffet in front of us
19:37:07  mrsdurff ->  if the shoe fits...
19:37:21  mrsdurff ->  food?
19:37:23  Justin K. Reeve ->  I might call in sometime, but not now.  I type much better than I speak.
19:37:32  mrsdurff ->  chicken
19:37:49  JenW ->  Justin -- YEAH!!   Got his name dropped!!!
19:37:57  Justin K. Reeve ->  WOOT!
19:38:04  JenW ->  I knew him first   :)
19:38:09  mrsdurff ->  how much is he paying?
19:38:13  JenW ->  hmmmmm ---
19:38:20  Justin K. Reeve ->  I sign autographs for a nominal fee
19:38:30  Justin K. Reeve ->  I mentioned a few links at the beginning
19:38:33  sroseman ->  what about an indepth demo of one tool ..3 to 6 minutes each show
19:39:00  JenW ->  Ask us -- if we like how it is now ---  we are content............maybe in September, maybe we will want a change then
19:39:01  Gary ->  Besides some of us are drinking a favourite beverage while we are listening and getting too deep may not be that useful.
19:39:01  mrsdurff ->  that is what we do now
19:39:11  Justin K. Reeve ->  this is kind of a neat site: http://www.pimpampum.net/phrasr
19:39:11  mrsdurff ->  we tag
19:39:24  Justin K. Reeve ->  I haven't yet figured out how it could be used in a classroom, though.
19:39:29  JenW ->  but NOT on Sunday --
19:39:30  mrsdurff ->  i don't
19:39:30  John Rundag ->  cheers, Gary!
19:39:37  Justin K. Reeve ->  but you just type a phrase, and it finds a Flickr photo for each word
19:39:39  JenW ->  Sunday needs to be our day of restful links
19:39:41  mrsdurff ->  that is what other shows do
19:39:50  mrsdurff ->  this is a speed round
19:40:03  Gary ->  Timing on Sunday seems to point to that activity.
19:40:03  JenW ->  Justin --you need to blog about it first -- then they will mention it   :)
19:40:11  JenW ->  <-----votes NO
19:40:12  Cathy E ->  That is my goal for making connections
19:40:24  mrsdurff ->  exactly
19:40:30  Justin K. Reeve ->  I'm mentioning it for the chatters' benefit, mainly
19:40:38  JenW ->  I like you giving me the power to sift through sites later -- instead of dwelling on them each week
19:40:51  JenW ->  right then
19:41:03  mrsdurff ->  mmm...before he was involved...
19:41:16  Justin K. Reeve ->  I use my delicious links for our school district's Link of the Day: http://www.weber.k12.ut.us/index.php?page=link-of-the-day
19:41:17  JenW ->  Votes for NO CHANGE (at least NOT yet)
19:41:25  mrsdurff ->  don't fix it if it ain't broke
19:41:27  John Rundag ->  I like all of the links and I love the "feel" of the show.
19:41:27  Justin K. Reeve ->  it automatically imports them, then I can manually arrange when they will be displayed
19:41:43  Gary ->  I think you would be surprised how far the links go after the show.
19:41:45  Justin K. Reeve ->  when I get a chance, I'm going to add ranking and user tagging functionality to the Daily Links
19:41:52  JenW ->  I like the casualness --- not too deep (well not usually) and lots of sites
19:41:56  mrsdurff ->  keep the sunday show
19:42:04  John Rundag ->  Who is from UT? I saw UT is going to a 4 day week.
19:42:08  JenW ->  <----HAPPY
19:42:21  Justin K. Reeve ->  there's talks about it
19:42:28  JenW ->  what about the FIRST SUNDAY of each month being "THAT KIND OF DAY"
19:42:29  mrsdurff ->  no
19:42:29  sroseman ->  yes
19:42:35  Cathy E ->  I'm happy :)
19:42:44  Gary ->  Maybe
19:42:44  Justin K. Reeve ->  I didn't hear about it being official yet, John
19:42:48  JenW ->  is this NOT interactive??
19:42:50  Jason R ->  I just set up a Mac lab this week. It goes live tomorrow. Hope to share lessons learned in WCA or somewhere.
19:43:01  John Rundag ->  I would record something
19:43:14  JenW ->  I personally like just being a "taker" on Sunday    :)
19:43:20  JenW ->  (just kidding)
19:43:23  mrsdurff ->  me too
19:43:31  mrsdurff ->  not kidding
19:43:46  Justin K. Reeve ->  I don't think there's anything wrong with that
19:43:50  Jason R ->  <--- HAPPY too :)
19:43:53  JenW ->  make the first sunday of each month your serious show......
19:43:53  Justin K. Reeve ->  because even takers pass stuff along at some point
19:44:09  sheila ->  Sunday is my day to gear up for the week. I like the take away from this show.
19:44:27  mrsdurff ->  Jen does NOT throw rocks
19:44:28  John Rundag ->  I would love to work a 4 day week!
19:44:34  JenW ->  I throw sponges
19:44:39  JenW ->  Right now -- IT WORKS
19:44:40  mrsdurff ->  :)\
19:44:41  sroseman ->  good point ..we tend to be lazy Sunday evening
19:44:53  Justin K. Reeve ->  Right, the less work we have to do, the better
19:44:53  mrsdurff ->  i throw candy
19:44:57  Gary ->  More beer!
19:45:06  JohnS ->  we have plenty of beer.
19:45:06  Justin K. Reeve ->  yeah, we need more drunken rants
19:45:07  JenW ->  Please come to our show on Tuesday night.
19:45:12  John Rundag ->  Here here, Gary!
19:45:15  JenW ->  we would like to hit 100 guests in the chat room
19:45:16  mrsdurff ->  dave i will insult you
19:45:24  Gary ->  On tap?
19:45:29  JenW ->  Personally -- I would like recipes each week    :)
19:45:30  JohnS ->  umm... yes.
19:45:32  sroseman ->  more NECC  highlights???
19:45:34  JenW ->  game links
19:45:41  JenW ->  just kidding
19:45:42  Gary ->  Yes
19:45:43  sroseman ->  lesson plan of the week
19:45:44  mrsdurff ->  vegan recipes
19:45:45  Justin K. Reeve ->  wow, I could go for that, JenW
19:45:54  JenW ->  we are so sarcastic
19:45:56  John Rundag ->  Beer of the week?
19:46:05  JohnS ->  Belgian Wit, JohnR
19:46:10  JenW ->  I used SUMMIZE for NECC
19:46:22  JenW ->  what time again??
19:46:28  JenW ->  5pm -- PST??
19:46:30  mrsdurff ->  23:00GMT
19:46:37  JenW ->  sighs -- I have to do math
19:46:39  Cathy E ->  is the ending keynote from NECC posted?
19:46:41  Gary ->  They are not going to mention the beer.
19:46:55  mrsdurff ->  i didn't see it cathy
19:46:59  JenW ->  5pm PST
19:47:03  mrsdurff ->  you said 7pmn
19:47:06  mrsdurff ->  he did
19:47:06  JenW ->  okay
19:47:07  Justin K. Reeve ->  I never saw it either
19:47:18  Justin K. Reeve ->  I don't think it was streamed online, either
19:47:18  JenW ->  as they fade
19:47:27  JenW ->  Justin -- it was streamed
19:47:34  JenW ->  but I dn't know if it was streamed with permission
19:47:34  sroseman ->  Would someone click on "Fireworks online" ..under Posts that mention ETT
19:47:48  JenW ->  so it might be underground   :)
19:47:50  sheila ->  Keynote was in SL. Think it's there?
19:48:02  JenW ->  check the NECC NING
19:48:02  Justin K. Reeve ->  JenW: Do you know of any archives?
19:48:02  mrsdurff ->  could be sheila
19:48:08  Justin K. Reeve ->  thanks
19:48:08  JenW ->  Justin yes
19:48:11  mrsdurff ->  paul you're late
19:48:11  JenW ->  just a sec
19:48:20  paulrwood ->  Just got up from a nap
19:48:30  sroseman ->  thanks
19:48:31  Justin K. Reeve ->  thanks guys
19:48:36  mrsdurff ->  bye!
19:48:38  sheila ->  C ya! Thanks!
19:48:45  sroseman ->  are you from Utah, Justin
19:48:45  Gary ->  Thanks again!
19:48:47  JenW ->  http://plannecc2008.iste.wikispaces.net/Bloggers+Cafe
19:48:52  JenW ->  there are some of them Justin
19:48:58  JenW ->  and you can link to others from there too
19:49:20  JL ->  Thanks all
19:49:24  JenW ->  good show
19:49:24  JohnS ->  Thanks for the feedback, everyone
19:49:31  JenW ->  I will try to be here tomorrow at 5pm
19:49:38  sroseman ->  thanks again
19:49:45  JenW ->  thanks for asking us, John
19:49:51  JenW ->  it is good to give feedback
19:50:02  JenW ->  makes it feel like a community
19:50:25  Cathy E ->  nite all
19:50:27  Jason R ->  Night
19:50:27  Justin K. Reeve ->  during NECC I was mainly using and updating on this site: http://necclive.wikispaces.com/Live+Information
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Note: I copied this from this old blog post.

When asked what 21st century skills are, I should be able to give a clear definition in under a minute. No one who’s going to ask me that question cares enough to listen longer than that. So here goes. There are four 21st century skills:

Globalization: Students need a solid understanding of world culures, and not just the hackneyed stereotypes from an Ameri-centric perspective or even an in-depth study of “world” culture that ignores Africa, most of Asia, and almost all of South America.They’re going to be interacting with people from all over the world, and they need to have some common ground.

Innovation: The United States maintained its standard of living in the 21st century by innovating. It’s estimated that within 25 years, all jobs for which an algorithm can be defined will be outsourced. If you can make a checklist of what to do in any situation, your days are numbered. If your job can be automated or outsourced, it will be.

Information: With 3,000 books published every day and 1,500,000,000 gigabytes of new information being produced every year (see the Fisch and Jukes links above), our students have to know how to find what they’re looking for, determine the relevance and reliability of their sources, and filter out the noise.

Collaboration: You can’t work alone anymore. Everyone is part of a team, or part of a community. We do things together. Lots of those teams only interact online. Many of the people on them are from very diverse cultures and are geographically very far apart. That leads us back to globalization.

That’s a fairly simple overview. Actually, I think the Time article from December 2006 summed it up fairly well.