EdTechWeekly #88

EdTechWeekly #88

August 3, 2008




18:49:11  JL ->  Hello DaiBarnes
18:49:47  daibarnes ->  Hi brb - have to plait daughters hair for bed
18:51:47  chriss ->  plaiting = braiding
18:52:00  chriss ->  !
18:53:15  chriss ->  it's braiding! plaiting is kind of an old fashioned way to say it.
18:53:20  daibarnes ->  yes - i'm back
18:54:03  daibarnes ->  braiding is finer plaits i think - anyway i'm no expert
18:54:32  chriss ->  I like the word plaiting myself.
18:55:01  daibarnes ->  me too. it doesn't sound like it should.
18:55:03  daibarnes ->  di
18:55:14  daibarnes ->  plaits is pronounced plats
18:55:21  daibarnes ->  hi
18:55:45  chriss ->  really? I always thought it was like "plates"
18:55:56  daibarnes ->  another word that doesn't sound like it writes - cuil
18:56:09  daibarnes ->  have u tried searchme.com
18:57:34  daibarnes ->  maybe too distracting for the classroom
18:59:01  Cathy E ->  I love Doug's laugh
18:59:21  daibarnes ->  is there visual for this or voice only?
18:59:25  loonyhiker ->  i like all of your voices! :)
18:59:30  Cathy E ->  It makes me smile
18:59:46  daibarnes ->  ok
19:00:22  Cathy E ->  I use Yugma to help my kids in college
19:00:33  Cathy E ->  they still call Mom for tech issues
19:01:18  Cathy E ->  I use LogmeIn with my paretns
19:01:23  Gary ->  We use iChat
19:02:04  alicemercer ->  It's good here
19:02:13  alicemercer ->  Hey, where is JM?
19:02:16  daibarnes ->  sorry - mgotta go - will come again. D
19:03:40  JoseRodriguez ->  Hello Folks
19:03:51  dougsymington ->  hey Jose
19:04:09  Gary ->  Just finished listening to the podcast - thanks.
19:05:47  JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/lee_baber
19:06:10  dougsymington ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/files/LeeBaberIntro.mp3
19:06:14  Cathy E ->  Lee was amazing
19:06:42  alicemercer ->  Yeah, it was 1.2, which I think was my class
19:06:57  alicemercer ->  And 1.1's like Lee and Jose were finishing up at the same time
19:07:15  JoseRodriguez ->  nope.. I was second generation.. 2.2.
19:07:55  JoseRodriguez ->  I joined early on  but did not do any work on Webcast Academy until summer of 2007
19:08:15  dougsymington ->  Hi Lisa
19:08:19  gradster1 ->  Greetings Durff
19:08:21  JoseRodriguez ->  Hey Durff
19:08:21  mrsdurff ->  hey
19:08:27  mrsdurff ->  hi jose
19:08:48  Gary ->  Which university in Finland?
19:08:52  Alvin Trusty ->  http://blog.delicious.com/blog/2008/07/oh-happy-day.html
19:09:01  JohnS ->  Findlay, Ohio.
19:09:09  JoseRodriguez ->  Just stepped in to say hi.. Family over at the pool.. I'll try to check in later on.
19:09:25  dougsymington ->  swim a lap for me Jose
19:09:26  Cathy E ->  Have Fun, Jose
19:09:34  Gary ->  Oh - I should listen more carefullly.
19:09:41  JoseRodriguez ->  Later...
19:09:43  mrsdurff ->  I want to know when they are taking it back
19:09:49  mrsdurff ->  i like the old one
19:09:51  gradster1 ->  Bye
19:10:27  Gary ->  It was a surpirise - needed to remember my password.
19:11:55  JL ->  http://www.j-let.org/~wcf/modules/tinyd0/ 
19:12:10  JL ->  http://www.wix.com/vances/worldcall08
19:12:39  gradster1 ->  Great!
19:12:51  gradster1 ->  I certainly hope so.
19:12:54  JL ->  http://www.wix.com/
19:13:02  mrsdurff ->  hi essed
19:13:13  JL ->  http://www.glogster.com/
19:13:33  JohnS ->  DRM still sucks: Yahoo Music going dark, taking keys with it: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080724-drm-still-sucks-yahoo-musi... and then,   Yahoo relents, gives coupons, refunds to music DRM captives: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080731-yahoo-relents-gives-coupon... and finally,   Migration FAQ: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/music/rhapsodymigration/faq.html
19:13:48  alicemercer ->  I use jotitt.com
19:14:31  JL ->  How do audio levels sound - fairly even, or not?
19:14:43  alicemercer ->  audio is excellent and even
19:14:46  loonyhiker ->  sounds good here
19:14:47  JL ->  thx
19:15:10  alicemercer ->  but I'm*) :{ about this MS music story!
19:15:33  alicemercer ->  COMPLAIN! You shouldn't have to complain to get it!
19:16:01  Cathy E ->  My daughter backed up her itunes last night - took 37 CDs
19:16:33  gradster1 ->  @Cathy E - why?
19:16:43  alicemercer ->  I can't always find a song/artist I want all the time?
19:16:50  dougsymington ->  http://flickr.com/photos/cogdog/2127500816/
19:16:55  Cathy E ->  She wanted to move it all to her new computer
19:16:59  alicemercer ->  And sometimes you want one song not a CD
19:17:12  JohnS ->  true enough.
19:17:19  gradster1 ->  Why not just transfer the library to the other computer?
19:17:42  JohnS ->  you can only do that until September 30.
19:17:54  Alvin Trusty ->  http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2008/07/21/6217846-sun.html
19:18:06  Cathy E ->  the music that was put into itunes from music CDs does not transfer like purchased music
19:18:37  gradster1 ->  It should....?
19:18:52  gradster1 ->  I transferred my entire libra- wait, are you on a mac?
19:19:22  Cathy E ->  @gradster1 -windows
19:19:27  gradster1 ->  Ooooooooh.
19:19:40  gradster1 ->  Well there's your problem.
19:19:51  gradster1 ->  Haha, sorry.
19:20:06  Cathy E ->  But we love our ipods
19:20:16  gradster1 ->  Rather pro-Apple.
19:21:40  JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/node/3239
19:21:48  alicemercer ->  Derrivative use which is okay for education, BUT can he own the site?
19:21:58  gradster1 ->  I hate it how the big guys always win.
19:22:15  alicemercer ->  Snub, hmmm?
19:22:30  mrsdurff ->  Go Windows!
19:22:36  gradster1 ->  Boo.
19:22:39  Cathy E ->  I thought we didn't like each other
19:22:41  gradster1 ->  Not the ghost kind.
19:22:43  alicemercer ->  You all spend more time on Win secty issues which are much more ubiquitous
19:22:45  JL ->  http://www.varasoftware.com/products/screenflow/
19:22:47  James Sigler ->  Go Linux
19:22:50  gradster1 ->  Yay!
19:22:57  gradster1 ->  But macs are awesome, too.
19:23:06  mrsdurff ->  hi james sigler
19:23:12  Cathy E ->  hello James
19:23:13  James Sigler ->  Hi Lisa
19:23:21  James Sigler ->  Hi Cathy
19:23:30  JohnS ->  Windows "Mojave" advertisements appear in the wild: http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2008/07/31/windows-mojave-... 
19:23:35  dougsymington ->  Hey James, good to see you
19:23:41  gradster1 ->  Or, you can get that free - Jing!
19:24:26  JL ->  Love Jing, but doesn't support editing, zooming, other file formats, or screencast longer than 5 mins
19:24:39  Cathy E ->  @James we had Porpoises in the backyard today - thought about your class.
19:24:55  JohnS ->  http://www.mojaveexperiment.com/#
19:24:59  mrsdurff ->  and that fooled people?
19:25:12  alicemercer ->  It can look pretty...
19:25:13  James Sigler ->  Hi doug.  I took a break from yard work to catch ETWeekly 
19:25:19  mrsdurff ->  are we that gullible?
19:25:24  alicemercer ->  But if the seams fall out of the ball gown...
19:25:30  alicemercer ->  What good is it?
19:25:45  mrsdurff ->  good to start a bonfire
19:26:01  Cathy E ->  I'm taking your XP side - I'm not upgrade either
19:26:21  Cathy E ->  But my daughter's new computer has Vista- I like it
19:26:36  gradster1 ->  It's more of a momentum thing with me - and then the fact of the sickening theft of features and ideas.
19:26:44  loonyhiker ->  i haven't had any problems with vista at all (knock on wood)
19:26:55  James Sigler ->  @Cathy I went to Alaska this summer and saw Dall Porpoises.  Brought back good memories of last year.
19:27:05  gradster1 ->  @loonyhiker - Ever heard of the Mighty Mighty Bosstones?
19:27:23  loonyhiker ->  @gradster no but i like the name
19:27:40  gradster1 ->  There's a specific song.... I'll link.
19:27:41  James Sigler ->  I've heard XP is more stable than Vista
19:27:51  dougsymington ->  http://gizmodo.com/5030810/giz-explains-an-illustrated-guide-to-every-st...
19:28:31  alicemercer ->  Male or female?
19:28:44  Alvin Trusty ->  http://www.monoprice.com/
19:28:46  essed ->  you know, that blue cable thing
19:28:48  gradster1 ->  What?
19:28:53  James Sigler ->  Great link
19:29:09  mrsdurff ->  be technical - call it that thingy
19:29:21  dougsymington ->  'xactly
19:29:34  essed ->  oh my bad durff, the blue cable thingy
19:29:45  James Sigler ->  20-30 cables for your house?
19:29:45  mrsdurff ->  there you go
19:29:49  essed ->  capitalizing on people's ignorance
19:30:01  JohnS ->  he could just invest in a wireless access point...
19:30:05  Alvin Trusty ->  30 cables is fifteen drops... that's about right
19:30:09  JL ->  http://www.searchcloud.net/  http://searchme.com/  http://cuil.com/
19:30:15  gradster1 ->  How do I put links in the chat?
19:30:24  alicemercer ->  I have FRY's within 2 miles
19:30:26  JohnS ->  just paste them in
19:30:30  loonyhiker ->  @gradster copy the link and paste 'em
19:30:31  gradster1 ->  Won't work...
19:30:39  mrsdurff ->  gradster drag from a Word doc
19:30:52  gradster1 ->  Ewwww, word.
19:31:02  mrsdurff ->  well sth like that
19:31:06  dougsymington ->  or control c (copy) and cntrl-v (paste) in windows
19:31:21  dougsymington ->  and whatever Mac equiv may be....
19:31:24  gradster1 ->  Yeah it's not working.
19:32:15  mrsdurff ->  hi lisa lane
19:32:29  JohnS ->  15 Coolest Firefox Tricks Ever: http://www.bspcn.com/2007/05/11/15-coolest-firefox-tricks-ever/
19:32:35  Lisa M Lane ->  hi Lisa Durff
19:32:46  chriss ->  @gradster1 I've had the same problem and I am also a mac user.
19:32:53  mrsdurff ->  ok i'm durff - your lane
19:33:02  Lisa M Lane ->  LOL
19:33:04  mrsdurff ->  parisi is parisi
19:33:11  Lisa M Lane ->  right, I remember
19:33:12  gradster1 ->  Oooh, fun.
19:33:14  mrsdurff ->  quiz time
19:33:22  gradster1 ->  Tomato tomato
19:33:30  mrsdurff ->  potato potato
19:33:31  chriss ->  exactly
19:33:35  Lisa M Lane ->  let's call the whole thing off
19:33:45  gradster1 ->  No, no singing
19:33:50  gradster1 ->  :)
19:33:56  dougsymington ->  http://webcastacademy.net/audio/carlos-f-recording-both-ends-telephony-3...
19:33:57  mrsdurff ->  i need a dancing emoticon
19:34:03  gradster1 ->  *dance*
19:34:06  gradster1 ->  *dancing*
19:34:08  mrsdurff ->  ty
19:34:09  gradster1 ->  Nope.
19:34:18  mrsdurff ->  hi eric
19:34:40  Eric ->  Hi, I'm late.  Sorry. 
19:34:40  Alvin Trusty ->  http://boomblox.ea.com
19:34:43  gradster1 ->  Haha
19:34:49  gradster1 ->  Nice emPHAsis.
19:35:35  Cathy E ->  Welcome Eric
19:35:52  JohnS ->  Eric: where have you been? We've been waiting for you :-)
19:35:58  Cathy E ->  OH...I want a Wii
19:36:08  JL ->  http://www.railsenvy.com/2008/7/29/oscon-videos
19:36:14  Eric ->  On mii or my.
19:36:37  gradster1 ->  Wait, question
19:36:41  alicemercer ->  I did some of that!
19:36:42  gradster1 ->  Who's this by?
19:36:59  JL ->  http://oscon.blip.tv/file/1108217/
19:37:05  alicemercer ->  http://den.wikispaces.com/National+Institute+Projects
19:37:25  JohnS ->  The Habitable Planet: http://www.learner.org/channel/courses/envsci/index.html  Which is part of Annenberg Professional Development: http://www.learner.org/channel/workshops/workshop_list.html  Which is part of  Main Site: http://www.learner.org
19:37:32  alicemercer ->  I went around during preso's at DEN and recorded 30 sec intvw with prestners
19:37:57  JL ->  posted anywhere ALice?
19:39:31  Cathy E ->  Welcome back daibarnes
19:39:31  dougsymington ->  http://www.teachingtips.com/blog/2008/06/30/50-must-read-up-and-coming-b...
19:39:49  mrsdurff ->  hi daibarnes
19:39:54  daibarnes ->  i'm fom uk - pls tell me what  k12 is on the chat?
19:39:55  Alvin Trusty ->  http://www.makemusic.com
19:40:12  daibarnes ->  hello mrs durff
19:40:17  mrsdurff ->  k12 = ages 5-18
19:40:20  Lisa M Lane ->  Hey, I'm #38 on that list!
19:40:30  dougsymington ->  congrats!
19:40:32  James Sigler ->  Congrats
19:40:33  daibarnes ->  and thx cathy
19:40:42  Lisa M Lane ->  it's funny to be 44 years old but "up and coming"
19:40:45  JohnS ->  Sorry, daibarnes. Thanks for picking that up, Durff.
19:41:01  mrsdurff ->  i did nothing
19:41:13  gradster1 ->  Oh my gods!
19:41:16  daibarnes ->  i need no apology
19:41:31  gradster1 ->  If youIf you have any questions about this I can answer them.
19:41:39  gradster1 ->  This software is absolutely AMAZING.
19:41:46  mrsdurff ->  do pick on john - it is so much fun
19:41:49  loonyhiker ->  maybe some karaoke singers need to listen to themselves lol
19:41:57  JohnS ->  http://www.periodicvideos.com/
19:42:01  gradster1 ->  It's so useful for schools
19:42:22  daibarnes ->  how does it relate to cubase and sebelius?
19:42:28  JL ->  http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10001060-54.html
19:42:45  JL ->  http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
19:42:58  JohnS ->  OLPC Nigeria One Year Later: Hard Lessons Learned: http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/nigeria/olpc_nigeria_one_year_later.html
19:43:27  gradster1 ->  Oh no - taboo!
19:43:36  gradster1 ->  It's OS X as in TEN, not x.
19:44:07  alicemercer ->  are they unsupervised on computers?
19:44:25  mrsdurff ->  evidently
19:44:48  James Sigler ->  I heard the OLPC was going to have a footpedal charger
19:44:52  gradster1 ->  Oh no - the hand crank didn't work?
19:45:05  alicemercer ->  never made gradster
19:45:09  gradster1 ->  That was my favorite feature
19:45:26  James Sigler ->  OLPC has really been having a hard time
19:45:35  dougsymington ->  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/can_new_media_be_taught_in_schools.php
19:45:46  alicemercer ->  Here are 2 comments HA!
19:45:53  alicemercer ->  and Well, are we surprised
19:45:54  daibarnes ->  gradster - could u answer my earlier question abt music sw?
19:45:58  Alvin Trusty ->  http://seoipac.seo.lib.oh.us
19:46:07  gradster1 ->  Sorry, must have missed it
19:46:10  gradster1 ->  ?
19:46:42  alicemercer ->  Oh lots of them do...
19:46:45  James Sigler ->  Wohoo MO
19:46:46  daibarnes ->  how does it relate to cubase and sebelius?
19:47:04  alicemercer ->  And you can d/l films with limited DRM with public library here
19:47:31  gradster1 ->  Never heard of them.
19:47:34  gradster1 ->  Should I have?
19:47:49  alicemercer ->  In rural areas, some of the biggest supporters are truckers who listen to audio books
19:47:56  James Sigler ->  Our Joplin library checks out Mp3 players with audiobooks on them
19:48:07  JL ->  http://edublogs.tv/  http://sites.google.com/site/edtechelevatorpitch/    http://edtech.boisestate.edu/ldawley/597SL/597SLsyllabus.htm          http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/07/31/scrabulous-changes-name-tech... 
19:48:08  James Sigler ->  I love audio books
19:48:37  gradster1 ->  Sebelius looks more like a notepad application...
19:49:04  daibarnes ->  music recording and sampling. second is a notation sw,  thought they are 'industry' standard for composing music
19:49:12  gradster1 ->  Yeah
19:49:20  daibarnes ->  yeah
19:49:23  gradster1 ->  Smartmusic is more for practice
19:49:33  gradster1 ->  Budding musicians et cetera
19:49:35  daibarnes ->  i'll have a look
19:49:44  gradster1 ->  Not so much the composing and the recording
19:50:06  JohnS ->  Show Yourself: http://www.dbachrach.com/showyourself/
19:50:09  daibarnes ->  we've just spent a fortune equipping 25 machines with midi keyboards and cubase
19:50:22  daibarnes ->  ok
19:50:24  alicemercer ->  cause they are all playing it while checking out their facebook
19:50:25  gradster1 ->  Oh dear
19:50:31  gradster1 ->  Worth it, I'd say, though
19:51:02  Lisa M Lane ->  much more cool than doing it by hand in html
19:51:21  daibarnes ->  looks very cool to m
19:51:25  James Sigler ->  I have a widget on my blog
19:52:20  daibarnes ->  thx. bye
19:52:28  loonyhiker ->  thank ya!
19:52:35  essed ->  thanks y'all
19:52:48  James Sigler ->  Glad I could join.  Good show!
19:52:55  JL ->  Feel free to join in by skypeing 'worldbridges'
19:52:58  daibarnes ->  what is k12???
19:53:01  MariaK ->  Thanks guys - great links and info!
19:53:09  loonyhiker ->  bye y'all!
19:53:37  James Sigler ->  I have to go finish the yard
19:53:40  daibarnes ->  now i see - thank you
19:53:42  James Sigler ->  See ya
19:53:59  Cathy E ->  Keep in touch- James
19:53:59  mrsdurff ->  me too
19:54:00  JohnS ->  http://emily.schinker.org/
19:54:05  mrsdurff ->  Sam
19:54:17  daibarnes ->  i have to go to  bed now that i know k12 means school
19:54:38  gradster1 ->  Oh, darn
19:54:44  gradster1 ->  We'll miss you.
19:54:54  mrsdurff ->  hi kim
19:54:55  daibarnes ->  i;m sure u will
19:55:04  kcaise ->  hi guys
19:55:12  kcaise ->  i just realized i didnt login to comment
19:55:52  daibarnes ->  hi!
19:55:53  kcaise ->  test prep software
19:56:08  daibarnes ->  gradster - r u gradsterone on twitter?
19:56:11  Cathy E ->  I would love to hear your comments about SI
19:56:18  alicemercer ->  wikipedia game anyone?
19:56:22  gradster1 ->  No, lo mismo
19:56:23  alicemercer ->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEbQ8Zk2Yb8
19:56:33  gradster1 ->  (gradster)
19:56:41  gradster1 ->  Ooops, sorry!
19:56:49  gradster1 ->  (gradster1)*
19:57:15  MariaK ->  just added emily's blog on my wiki for teachers - great example
19:57:27  daibarnes ->  thought  it was
19:57:37  JL ->  Again, to join in , call 'worldbridges'
19:57:52  alicemercer ->  http://leepea.tumblr.com
19:57:56  kcaise ->  what was the site?
19:58:42  kcaise ->  ty
19:58:50  JohnS ->  http://www.findlay.edu/offices/resources/mazza/default.htm
19:59:20  mrsdurff ->  no comment
19:59:30  Alvin Trusty ->  http://www.mazzamuseum.org
20:00:07  Cathy E ->  I with ya John - I hate camping
20:00:21  mrsdurff ->  grafitti artist
20:00:51  Cathy E ->  Ok guys - I'm going to watch the sunset
20:01:00  JL ->  enjoy
20:01:00  mrsdurff ->  cool
20:02:12  gradster1 ->  Ugh
20:02:17  gradster1 ->  I never got the hang of second life...
20:02:35  gradster1 ->  Could anyone help me with that?
20:02:46  gradster1 ->  How much space does it take?
20:02:55  JL ->  not a lot of space
20:02:56  gradster1 ->  Do I need anything to get on besides myself??
20:03:03  gradster1 ->  System requirements?
20:03:06  dougsymington ->  think it's fairly resource heavy
20:03:10  dougsymington ->  esp video card
20:03:14  JL ->  requires a fairly sophisticated video card and some cpu/ram
20:03:21  gradster1 ->  Oh no
20:03:26  mrsdurff ->  well alice are you going to call in?
20:03:46  mrsdurff ->  what about you Maria?
20:04:10  mrsdurff ->  kim?
20:04:38  gradster1 ->  I wish it would stop logging me out
20:05:01  MariaK ->  Can't prep for my course tomorrow and skype in too - thanks anyway
20:05:13  MariaK ->  And what would i say
20:05:14  mrsdurff ->  oh pooh
20:05:16  Eric ->  Oh, too late to skype.  :)
20:05:27  MariaK ->  yes - trying to be quiet
20:05:30  mrsdurff ->  big excuse
20:05:37  gradster1 ->  Will this be again next week?
20:05:38  MariaK ->  kept following the links and not working
20:06:03  mrsdurff ->  he speaks like a native bostonian
20:06:34  gradster1 ->  Durff will remind me
20:06:35  mrsdurff ->  it was deb who was upset
20:06:39  gradster1 ->  I can always count on that
20:07:00  gradster1 ->  .... I hope/
20:07:02  gradster1 ->  .*
20:07:14  mrsdurff ->  i think we should put the wrong info in there just for john
20:07:26  mrsdurff ->  he mows lawns for free
20:07:32  MariaK ->  Thank you for doing that, John. You can even see our car in the driveway.
20:07:49  mrsdurff ->  isn't he nice to mow your lawn
20:07:56  gradster1 ->  But it's not current imaging...
20:08:06  daibarnes ->  my lawn is rubbish
20:08:20  gradster1 ->  The picture of my house is a couple years old right now
20:08:21  mrsdurff ->  ciano ye all
20:08:43  gradster1 ->  Bye
20:08:52  gradster1 ->  Gradster1 on twitter.