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EdTechWeekly #95
September 21, 2008
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18:36:57  courosa ->  beautiful
18:53:04  PeggyG ->  audio is great but the studio view was really messed up.
18:54:07  PeggyG ->  or very very hungry :-)
18:54:29  courosa ->  I think you really need to get 9 people in, stacked in 3's and play hollywood squares some episode.
18:54:37  PeggyG ->  LOL
18:56:28  courosa ->  you can stack people easily in Adobe Connect ... would be a fun format as you passed things between people. :-)
18:58:05  courosa ->  so ... can someone explain the setup? I'm curious. Mebeam ... skype audio? and then what for the video stream?
18:58:25  courosa ->  what is pushing to ustream?
18:58:26  Steve_K ->  Could someone copy a link to the audio in the chate room? Thanks!
18:59:11  JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/studio
18:59:15  courosa ->  what is jeff using to go to ustream?
18:59:24  sharonp ->  and this set up is easier than...???
18:59:24  courosa ->  like a camtwist type equiv?
18:59:27  JL ->  htttp://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
18:59:42  courosa ->  ok
19:00:15  courosa ->  thanks ... planning for my next course in January, looking for possibilities.
19:00:22  courosa ->  but is windows only
19:00:23  JenW ->  Yeah!!  The old chat toolbar is back!!!
19:00:41  JenW ->  oh yes
19:00:48  courosa ->  it does add
19:00:50  sharonp ->  LOL.....seeing you.... hmmm
19:00:59  JenW ->  who is the 3rd window???
19:01:05  PeggyG ->  Hooray for colors :-)
19:01:12  Gary ->  Yes but hard to eat and watch you at the same time.
19:01:18  courosa ->  i liked the other chat window better, for me on the mac it was better IMHO.
19:01:23  JL ->  http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
19:01:41  PeggyG ->  yes-I went to mebeam from the link and saw myself and clicked on the X :-)
19:01:45  JenW ->  last week -- you had a different chat
19:01:55  courosa ->  there was a different chat software a few days ago, or was it last week?
19:02:01  JenW ->  no -- you had a different chat window too
19:02:07  JenW ->  thanks Alec
19:02:09  JenW ->  :)
19:02:09  Cathy E ->  She is correct - there was a different chat
19:02:11  JenW ->  yep
19:02:16  PeggyG ->  NO the chat window for the last week didn't have the color wheel
19:02:20  JenW ->  NO -- the entire sign in
19:02:29  JenW ->  nope -- it didn't even have the password sign in
19:02:34  courosa ->  a few days ago it was different, whever i was last in here
19:02:35  JenW ->  it was COMPLETELY differrnt
19:02:41  JenW ->  now it is back to NORMAL
19:02:44  PeggyG ->  it's old but was missing last week
19:02:45  JenW ->  yep --
19:02:54  courosa ->  yes, it was completely diferent agreed
19:02:59  JenW ->  sighs -- we can discuss it in POST SHOW
19:03:09  Cathy E ->  So we all vote- it WAS different
19:03:17  JenW ->  So glad that I wasn't just like WEIRDING out
19:03:17  PeggyG ->  I learned my lesson--don't start edtechweekly with any tabs open!
19:03:39  JenW ->  so -- again -- who is the female in the 3rd window??  should I know that person!?!?!
19:03:52  PeggyG ->  Carla
19:03:55  JenW ->  do we have anew host??
19:03:59  JenW ->  OHHHHH Hi Carla
19:04:06  Gary ->  and what is the beer tonight?
19:04:08  JenW ->  they announced it
19:04:13  JenW ->  howling
19:04:16  courosa ->  was someone just bludgeoned?
19:04:18  sharonp ->  WHAT wwas that??
19:04:31  JohnS ->  Belgian Wit for Jeff, Belgian Trippel for me.
19:04:41  Cathy E ->  Is memeab free?
19:04:47  JohnS ->  yes
19:05:00  Gary ->  thanks
19:05:07  PeggyG ->  lost the stream for a minute-had to refresh
19:05:10  JenW ->  can you remove the blue squares??  or are they there because people were in them at one time??
19:05:13  courosa ->  does mebeam work on the mac?
19:05:29  JenW ->  can we just ask questions today that you answer
19:05:41  PeggyG ->  Yes on Mac
19:06:07  sharonp ->  Alec and I would have lots of questions about .... trolls....
19:06:11  courosa ->  i tried on the mac, and it  doesn't seem to want to work
19:06:30  JenW ->  how much are they paying you, Carla
19:06:54  courosa ->  @sharonp haha ... no more trolls today. or perhaps we should have a special show on how to deter trolls?
19:06:55  dave ->  http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2008/9/11/never-judg...
19:07:11  sharonp ->  laying traps for trolls
19:07:24  PeggyG ->  @courosa-I haven't tried to initiate one but I participated in one and logged in briefly today on my Mac (about 3 seconds)
19:07:35  JenW ->  I read that post
19:07:37  courosa ->  hilarious!
19:07:42  JenW ->  I think iJohnpederson linked to it in twitter
19:07:42  JenM ->  Open education book: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11309
19:08:27  Gary ->  We thought you did a lot of stealing from each other.  :)
19:08:35  courosa ->  looks like some good titles
19:08:43  JL ->  http://web2expo.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc       http://en.oreilly.com/webexny2008/public/schedule/proceedings
19:08:46  sharonp ->  super cool
19:09:02  sharonp ->  Awwww... I missed the expo?!
19:09:07  JenW ->  is it Meebo??
19:09:20  JenW ->  or Meabo??  Meeboo??  :)  what are they using again??
19:09:26  courosa ->  shirkey
19:09:27  mrsdurff ->  i went to the expo in montreal when i was a kid
19:09:30  courosa ->  shirky
19:09:51  courosa ->  close your eyes!
19:09:58  JenW ->  closed
19:09:59  Cathy E ->  http://www.mebeam.com/
19:10:03  JenW ->  thank you
19:10:07  mrsdurff ->  here, here for easiness!
19:10:07  JohnS ->  Educational Uses of Digital Storytelling: http://digitalstorytelling.coe.uh.edu/
19:10:14  courosa ->  that's how i convert to audio
19:10:23  sharonp ->  wow those titles are uber-geeky
19:11:01  courosa ->  nice resource!
19:11:36  carlaarena ->  http://edmodo.com
19:11:37  courosa ->  timely, just what i needed
19:11:47  mrsdurff ->  hey carla!
19:13:29  cheryloakes ->  Carla, we have tried edmodo too and it looks good.
19:13:55  JohnS ->  Is that Cheryl between Carla and Jen? I'm just starting to get the faces down.
19:14:14  cheryloakes ->  I have glasses on, and a pink vest.
19:15:12  carlaarena ->  carlaarena@gmail.com
19:15:32  dave ->  http://www.shatters.net/celestia/ http://www.paleoportal.org/index.php?globalnav=audience&sectionnav=k16
19:15:57  JenM ->  Book - Here comes everybody: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/168716646&referer=brief_results
19:16:02  carlaarena ->  yes, John, it's cheryl
19:16:13  Ron ->  books?
19:16:16  carlaarena ->  hey, durff
19:16:17  JohnS ->  Right. Got it. Thanks.
19:16:25  JohnS ->  That's two book links, right?
19:16:40  Ron ->  Oh - thats a awsome book...   using that in our PLC book study right now
19:17:00  carlaarena ->  @courosa, edmodo is worth a try
19:17:04  JL4 ->  http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2008/09/14/convert_video_to_audio_fro...
19:17:26  mrsdurff ->  hi derrall
19:17:27  JenM ->  @ron ... it is a good book, right?
19:17:43  dave ->  my mebeam shockwave player crashed
19:17:47  dave ->  was using chrome
19:17:49  derrallg ->  hi mrsdurff
19:17:52  PeggyG ->  http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html  Great blog post I just read today by Clay Shirky
19:17:56  dave ->  so it only crashed the plugin!
19:17:58  carlaarena ->  mine too, dave
19:18:06  mrsdurff ->  who?
19:18:09  cheryloakes ->  Hey derrallg, how are you?
19:18:11  carlaarena ->  I'm using firefox
19:18:35  mrsdurff ->  ah!
19:18:38  courosa ->  @carlaarena I will be checking it out more in the future. Thanks.
19:18:38  Ron ->  @JENM - Great book - very applicable to todays education environment
19:18:40  JohnS ->  Sarah Palin's email hacked: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked
19:18:44  mrsdurff ->  the root guy
19:18:48  derrallg ->  @cheryl good thanks just getting back into the swing of things
19:18:48  courosa ->  yes sdave!
19:19:06  cheryloakes ->  Yummy Carla
19:19:11  Ron ->  Not to use your real info for your 'secret' info
19:19:12  courosa ->  1) always lie about your mother's maiden name!
19:19:26  cheryloakes ->  always make up your own questions!
19:19:28  Ron ->  Make up your own secret answers
19:19:46  PeggyG ->  my problem is remembered what I "lied about" :-)
19:19:59  PeggyG ->  like mother's maiden name :-)
19:20:00  cheryloakes ->  Peggy, you are not a good liar?
19:20:00  JohnS ->  Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/palin-e-mail-ha.html
19:20:02  sharonp ->  @PeggyG I have that problem too
19:20:16  angelamaiers ->  Hi All!
19:20:17  PeggyG ->  no I'm a terrible lier-don't trust my memory!
19:20:23  JohnS ->  Proxy server trail leads FBI to Palin email hacker : http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-39405-108.html
19:20:43  mrsdurff ->  so john out with it - who did you hack this week?
19:21:00  angelamaiers ->  What is the topic tonight?
19:21:02  courosa ->  The Palin example is a good teachable moment to students. I will use it this week when I talk about privacy online.
19:21:12  sharonp ->  learn by example and modeling
19:21:16  mrsdurff ->  we are all for education
19:21:21  sharonp ->  good idea Alec
19:21:26  PeggyG ->  no topic-just sharing new links and tools :-)
19:21:39  James Sigler ->  Thanks Sarah Palin for helping me teach about what not what to do
19:21:41  angelamaiers ->  Thanks-PeggyG!
19:21:53  Gary ->  Hmm and if McCain won and then died .....?
19:22:13  angelamaiers ->  @courosa - I completely agree-Palin is a great teaching moment
19:22:33  Gary ->  Is there still a real "red phone" with access to the button?
19:22:48  courosa ->  Someone put up a controversial site today called http://www.freelevi.org , seeing Palin's son-in-law as a political prisoner (caution, may be offensive to some).
19:23:01  courosa ->  think it's from Bill Maher
19:23:11  mrsdurff ->  what is her link?
19:23:16  dave ->  can Bill Maher be offensive?
19:23:18  mrsdurff ->  docstock?
19:23:30  courosa ->  @dave ... never!
19:23:46  JL4 ->  http://docstoc.com/
19:23:53  mrsdurff ->  thanks
19:23:57  angelamaiers ->  Thanks for the link!
19:23:58  James Sigler ->  The MeBeam interface is neat, but I don't know that anything could beat the Oovoo look and feel
19:24:16  courosa ->  @james is oovoo better?
19:24:20  dave ->  http://ltc.umanitoba.ca:83/moodle/mod/forum/index.php?id=20
19:24:21  carlaarena ->  http://docstoc.com
19:24:32  cheryloakes ->  OOvOO doesn't play nicely with macs and usb mics. we have n't found a good match.
19:24:35  sharonp ->  we "did" knowledge....LOL
19:24:42  Ron ->  oovoo + macs = bad though
19:24:44  mrsdurff ->  he is so mean - carla you are fantastic no matter what the root geek says
19:24:50  courosa ->  interesting how knowledge was an unpopular topic with many teachers
19:25:03  James Sigler ->  I saw it here one week, it looked very slick
19:25:09  courosa ->  can we talk about trolls next week dave?
19:25:43  carlaarena ->  Connectivism course cck08
19:25:45  sharonp ->  The forum has become a bit of a spectator sport
19:25:48  dave ->  yes... a few trolls
19:25:51  courosa ->  only have ot login if you post
19:25:54  Gary ->  Or you could follow courosa and others on Twitter
19:26:18  sharonp ->  I created my own Pageflakes page for the course blog last night.... trying to put order into chaos
19:26:20  mrsdurff ->  dave & academic are not words that go together
19:26:32  JenM ->  Check your carbon footprint: http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/footprint
19:26:35  courosa ->  @sharonp Perfect of example of the need for PLEs
19:26:37  James Sigler ->  Who is the blue screen
19:26:54  Alvin Trusty ->  I exhale a lot of CO2.
19:26:59  sharonp ->  yes, I had to create a new one (PLE) just for the course!
19:27:00  carlaarena ->  @sharonp I have things on my igoogle
19:27:09  JohnS ->  Alvin, you're destroying the Earth.
19:27:17  cheryloakes ->  see ya, off to dinner.
19:27:19  Alvin Trusty ->  one breathe at a time
19:27:25  mrsdurff ->  bye cheryl
19:27:27  PeggyG ->  I'm starting to have trouble keeping up with all of my Pageflakes too!
19:27:38  sharonp ->  I have a very full igoogle page - I suppose I could have started a new igoogle page, but I had fun exploring with pageflakes
19:27:54  JenW ->  I started a pageflakes -- but didn't know how to add my blogroll -- my RSS feed for blogs I read -- Am I just missing it??
19:27:56  carlaarena ->  I love pageflakes, sharon
19:28:00  JenW ->  my igoogle page works just great
19:28:09  PeggyG ->  I love Pageflakes but I also use iGoogle
19:28:10  carlaarena ->  Add feeds, jen
19:28:19  JL4 ->  http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/09/google-audio-indexing.html http://valleywag.com/5052002/the-keywords-john-mccain-and-barack-obama-a...
19:28:21  sharonp ->  @jenw takes a bit of looking to find the add rss feeds button
19:28:25  JenW ->  I tried Carla -- but it gave me ideas-- didn't allow me to add what I wanted
19:28:48  JenW ->  thanks Sharon -- I will look a bit harder   :)
19:28:57  Alvin Trusty ->  it's OCR for audio
19:29:23  James Sigler ->  I like that it can search for the clip
19:29:30  JenW ->  what do you mean "PAID FOR"
19:29:32  sharonp ->  http://classportal.org/tutorials/2008/05/pageflakes/
19:29:45  JenW ->  you mean they are manipulating our results??
19:29:54  JohnS ->  Audacity Tutorials: http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/1-0-0-0_good_practice/gp-how-to/gp_howto_au...
19:30:03  courosa ->  "global warming" was owned by the National Petroleum Institute in 2000, and 2004.
19:30:04  Ron ->  glad I never see the ads... adblock plus + firefox is bliss
19:31:04  PeggyG ->  I stopped using adblocks because it was preventing popup windows on edtechtalk from opening up
19:31:17  angelamaiers ->  Two sites that I have found helpful this week- http://www.wordia.com- this is a video dictionary and also http://www.dabbleboard.com/main  Teachers have loved both!
19:31:26  dave ->  http://www.gees.ac.uk/events/2008/ac08/main/day2/paul.mp3
19:31:34  Ron ->  You can 'whitelist' sites in adblock...  I have done that with a few
19:31:56  PeggyG ->  I really liked dabbleboard when you shared it last week! Thanks Angela
19:31:58  James Sigler ->  My Firefox 3 just crashed on my desktop
19:32:09  James Sigler ->  rats
19:32:21  dave ->  http://www.gees.ac.uk/events/2008/ac08/ac08.htm
19:32:37  PeggyG ->  @Ron I didn't have luck with that-I told it to allow popups for ETT and it still didn't. Probably "operator error"
19:32:38  JenM ->  PDF annotation (yes ... more annotation from jen): http://www.ograhl.com/en/pdfannotator/index.php ... and ... http://www.ograhl.com/en/pdfannotator/index.php
19:33:01  Ron ->  @peggyG...  hehe
19:34:14  JL4 ->  http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/why-sergey-brin-may-have-disclosed-his-heightened-risk-for-parkinsons/?ref=technology  http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/articl...
19:34:28  Ron ->  Bluebeam works pretty well - way faster then Adobe CRASHrobat ..  http://www.bluebeam.com/
19:35:12  courosa ->  Open sourcing medicine would be the best thing ever!
19:35:41  JenM ->  @Ron ... thank you ... I forgot the link :)  http://www.bluebeam.com/web07/us/store/education_store.asp
19:35:42  courosa ->  Pharmaceutical patents are killing people daily.
19:35:42  JenW ->  floating servers??
19:35:48  sharonp ->  the biotechnology sector would just LOVE that idea!
19:35:51  PeggyG ->  Ewan McIntosh is hosting another TeachMeet on Flashmeeting this week-Sept. 24-always interesting-7 min presentations for several hours http://teachmeet.pbwiki.com/TeachMeet08_SLF2008
19:36:23  JohnS ->  EFF: We're concerned about Google's Omnibox: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10032047-2.html
19:36:28  derrallg ->  Can I be volunteer to be a crew member?
19:36:53  James Sigler ->  who would do something like that?  ;)
19:37:46  dave ->  http://www.jisc.ac.uk/Home/publications/publications/effectivepracticeep...
19:37:56  dave ->  http://www.jisc.ac.uk/media/documents/programmes/elearningsfc/sfcbooklet...
19:38:23  courosa ->  List of free and online mathematics and statistics classes - http://diplomaguide.com/articles/Online_Math_and_Statistics_Classes_Offe...
19:38:50  JenM ->  Endless Scholar Blog: http://endlessscholar.com/
19:40:10  JL4 ->  http://etc.usf.edu/te_win/index.html   http://etc.usf.edu/te_win/index.html
19:40:33  Gary ->  @courosa - Thanks
19:40:51  Ron ->  Did you folks mention a link once about taking a picture with your digital camera, emailing it and it converts it to a PDF (site emails the PDF link back to you...)  
19:40:54  JL4 ->  http://www.imdb.com/features/video/
19:41:18  Ron ->  Like - using your camera to take a pic of the whiteboard
19:41:40  JohnS ->  Teachertube download help, with FLV player: http://www.teachertube.com/download.php  and the Current Version of that FLV player: http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/2007/flv-player-20-released/
19:41:46  carlaarena ->  are u talking about qipit, Ron?
19:41:57  drezac ->  don't forget http://www.commoncraft.com for cool movie descriptions of anything Web 2.0
19:42:01  Ron ->  Sounds semi-familiar - I'll go look
19:42:14  Cathy E ->  @ Ron -www.zamzar.com
19:42:29  courosa ->  why not VLC?
19:42:30  Alvin Trusty ->  Save the file as an AVI - http://idesktop.tv
19:42:33  Ron ->  http://www.qipit.com/ - yep that was it!  Thanks
19:42:43  Ron ->  Thanks Cathy also
19:42:54  derrallg ->  I use VLC too they just updated it
19:43:02  courosa ->  vlc has a portable option
19:43:08  JenW ->  zamzar has really slowed down though -- it too me 2 hours to get a doc back
19:43:14  courosa ->  portableapps.com
19:43:17  JenW ->  if I paid -- they said it would have been quicker
19:44:17  JohnS ->  yeah, that's why I liked the flv player -- didn't need to convert it.
19:44:25  Gary ->  Tooble for Mac
19:44:47  mrsdurff ->  not unusual dave
19:44:52  courosa ->  pomo!
19:44:54  dave ->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Postmodern_Condition
19:44:58  PeggyG ->  have you tried the audo downloader with the Firefox/Flock add-on-just tried it today and it worked perfectly for downloading .flv video
19:45:04  dave ->  http://www.idehist.uu.se/distans/ilmh/pm/lyotard-introd.htm
19:45:17  courosa ->  I get ridiculed in my faculty if I DON'T use pomo!
19:45:42  JenW ->  please say the guys name again
19:45:53  mrsdurff ->  dave is just ridiculed no matter what
19:45:53  JenW ->  ohhh again
19:46:04  JenW ->  I just like hearing you say his name
19:46:07  courosa ->  Lyotard, seminal.
19:46:29  JenM ->  Jog The Web: http://www.jogtheweb.com/ ... and ... Edublog sign up - http://www.jogtheweb.com/reader/index.php?trackId=560
19:46:30  dave ->  bye bye metanarratives
19:46:34  Ron ->  For FLV download - I use (in Firefox) http://www.downloadhelper.net/it also has a beta in it to convert to AVI/MPEG/WMV on the fly
19:46:52  courosa ->  bye bye metanarratives bye, drove my ...
19:48:18  JenW ->  what do I  use??
19:48:23  PeggyG ->  @Ron-thanks for the URL-that was the Firefox/Flock add-on I was mentioning. It downloaded instantly
19:48:28  derrallg ->  I like the look of that, so annotated screen grabs with animation?
19:48:32  JL4 ->  http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21195574231       http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/09/19/microsofts-im-a-pc-ads-created-on-macs/        
19:48:40  JenW ->  no -- I was reading a blog post -- lost attention for a bit
19:48:46  JenW ->  <-----hates the new look
19:48:46  Ron ->  @peggy - glad to help  :)
19:48:55  mrsdurff ->  ra ra
19:48:57  JenW ->  I totally do
19:49:06  courosa ->  I really like the status update changes, you can get a good conversation under each status update.
19:49:11  JenM ->  No post show for me :(
19:49:21  JenW ->  NO POST SHOW -- what will I do??
19:49:22  courosa ->  And I hit over 1000 (really close) Facebook friends today. :-)
19:49:27  JenM ->  Driving back to NJ as soon as we wind up ...
19:49:34  courosa ->  1000 bffs!
19:49:48  JenM ->  @JW ... you can post show without me :(
19:49:49  PeggyG ->  Seinfeld ads just didn't cut it--no clear message!
19:49:59  JenW ->  JenM -- I just can't      
19:50:06  JL4 ->  http://www.yehhumnaheen.org/
19:50:12  JenW ->  but isn't that what SEINFELD was always about
19:50:15  James Sigler ->  I love the irony
19:50:17  JenW ->  the show that didn't make sense
19:50:24  Gary ->  Folow-up will be from Apple.
19:50:39  JenW ->  I am a MAC will have fun with the Seinfeld ads
19:50:54  JenW ->  I sent in delicious links this week -- but noneof them got mentioned
19:50:58  JenW ->  so maybe I did it wrong
19:51:19  PeggyG ->  I also loved the irongy of the Mac creating the PC ad :-)
19:51:20  mrsdurff ->  dave turned them against us
19:51:34  drezac ->  anyone know what happened to sketchcast.com?
19:51:39  JenW ->  closeup of John please
19:51:55  PeggyG ->  no-sketchcast.com just seemed to disappear :-(
19:51:56  JenW ->  in fact -- it got postponed
19:51:58  mrsdurff ->  bye Jen
19:51:59  JenW ->  the end of the world
19:52:03  courosa ->  bye jen
19:52:05  James Sigler ->  bye Jen
19:52:05  JohnS ->  Hackers attack Large Hadron Collider: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern212.xml  and Electrical fault halts "Big Bang" machine: http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/news_digest/Electrical_fault_halts_Big_Bang...
19:52:10  derrallg ->  bye Jen
19:52:13  JenW ->  they canceled or postponed the end of the world
19:52:20  courosa ->  The LHC is down for two months now.
19:52:22  JenW ->  Its Princess Leai
19:52:27  James Sigler ->  Hackers save the world from a black hole
19:52:47  JenM ->  Nite all! Hitting the road for a 2 1/2 hour drive home :(
19:52:49  Gary ->  It can't cause the end of the world!!!!
19:52:57  JenM ->  See you next week!
19:53:14  JenW ->  I read they are postpoining it -- NOT closing it down entirely
19:53:36  PeggyG ->  safe trip JenM!
19:53:36  Gary ->  Well it is CERN where the internet was actually created.
19:53:55  James Sigler ->  Like the game Halo?
19:54:07  JohnS ->  True, Gary.
19:54:19  JohnS ->  Sort of.
19:54:38  Gary ->  Well - first extensively used for a purpose
19:55:00  Gary ->  Before we knew about it
19:55:01  James Sigler ->  Like the game Halo?
19:55:05  JenW ->  did Carla make anyone cry??
19:55:05  PeggyG ->  LOL
19:55:15  mrsdurff ->  crying and screaming
19:55:20  James Sigler ->  I like the some square
19:55:25  mrsdurff ->  dave that is
19:55:29  PeggyG ->  5 students dropped on first day? must be rigorous!
19:55:31  mrsdurff ->  not carla
19:55:34  James Sigler ->  zoom square
19:55:58  James Sigler ->  what is that?
19:56:37  James Sigler ->  lol
19:56:42  Ron ->  I agree totally
19:57:05  JohnS ->  Stay tuned next week for video of puppets doing the show.
19:57:30  James Sigler ->  cool, the Muppet Show
19:58:01  Gary ->  EdTechMuppet
19:58:02  PeggyG ->  @courosa-you are masterful in the way you design your courses and teach/facilitate them. I don't think everyone can do it.
19:58:25  James Sigler ->  Was that Miss Piggy?
19:58:28  mrsdurff ->  go Jen!!
19:58:36  mrsdurff ->  Join them Jen
19:58:38  JohnS ->  http://jenuinetech.com/blog/?p=372
19:59:03  courosa ->  thanks for the compliment Peggy. I'm still learning, and it's way too much fun to teach this way. Stay tuned, I'm offering an open online course again in January. :-)
19:59:22  James Sigler ->  neat
19:59:32  mrsdurff ->  that sums it up! carla=nice, dave is not
20:00:02  PeggyG ->  I learn from your process with every course you teach--content too but especially the process! I'll look forward to the Jan course!
20:00:13  derrallg ->  You help them suffer
20:00:24  James Sigler ->  Dora!
20:00:40  mrsdurff ->  i can imagine dave saying go rot!
20:00:49  Cathy E ->  So Dave, do you let them write down the steps as they go along?
20:00:53  James Sigler ->  ROFL
20:01:34  JenW ->  LOL -- picturing him standing over people with a ruler   :)
20:01:43  PeggyG ->  my university students resisted my approach to "take responsibility for your own learning"-this is not a step-by-step course. That's why I think it's easier said than done.
20:01:46  James Sigler ->  Was that John or Dora talking?  I was watching Dora
20:02:15  derrallg ->  Are the students allowed to use a mouse with their left hand?
20:02:38  James Sigler ->  Thanks for joining us Dora
20:02:43  PeggyG ->  Dora has a great smile :-)
20:02:44  JenW ->  that is funny
20:02:53  JenW ->  but now will you be able to post this archive??
20:03:09  James Sigler ->  lol
20:03:13  dora ->  hola!
20:03:30  James Sigler ->  como esta?
20:03:30  JenW ->  wishing I had a video cam -- this could get FUN
20:04:31  James Sigler ->  How fun it would be to have kids do a puppet play video conference
20:05:07  JohnS ->  Posie's turn in the limelight, Dora.
20:05:12  mrsdurff ->  got to go - nite all!
20:05:17  courosa ->  gnite
20:05:40  JenW ->  would it not be fun for each of us to assume an identity -- like the scarecrow from Wizard of Oz.... Superman,...... etc.....and let them speak for us in the mebeam screen
20:06:00  courosa ->  woohoo soundslike a theme show
20:06:01  JenW ->  I think I would like to be Elmo   :)
20:06:18  dora ->  i agree
20:06:21  PeggyG ->  @JenW-sounds like second life to me :-)
20:06:40  JenW ->  already got an alias for SL -- now I need a alias for ETT??
20:06:44  dora ->  second face
20:07:03  PeggyG ->  too many avatars and aliases to keep track of for me!
20:07:28  JenW ->  even Dora's eyes are glazing over   :)
20:07:31  Cathy E ->  I'm with you Peggy - I can't keep everyone straight in real live
20:07:41  JenW ->  CathyE - your home is okay??
20:07:45  PeggyG ->  absolutely!!!
20:08:03  JenW ->  is Dora losing it??
20:08:11  Cathy E ->  @ Jen - yep- it has been blowing all weekend
20:08:21  James Sigler ->  It's the Dora eye
20:08:22  JenW ->  okay --
20:08:27  JenW ->  wondered how your "pier" was
20:08:34  Cathy E ->  still there
20:08:44  JenW ->  Does dora ever close her mouth??
20:09:03  dora ->  has anyone seen diego?
20:09:04  JenW ->  first time seeing her
20:09:19  PeggyG ->  Dora is just a happy girl :-)
20:09:30  JohnS ->  Boots was here a little while ago, Dora. He was chasing Swiper.
20:09:32  dora ->  or my backpack, backpack, backpack, backpack.
20:09:41  James Sigler ->  That's why she can't talk.  She can't close her mouth
20:09:59  dora ->  swiper stop swiping
20:10:08  JohnS ->  oh, man.
20:10:40  JenW ->  OHNO
20:10:58  derrallg ->  good night, time for dinner
20:10:58  courosa ->  i think swiper gother
20:11:01  Gary ->  My guess is that most of the people in this chat learned most of what they do on-line or with a computer by themselves
20:11:20  JenW ->  I am self taught
20:11:22  Cathy E ->  so tell me about mebeam
20:11:31  PeggyG ->  @Gary-that's true for me-but lots of it was tutorials shared by my PLN
20:11:34  JenW ->  okay 10% online learning
20:11:38  James Sigler ->  I sure didn't learn it from a course
20:11:40  JL4 ->  find out for yourself Cathy :)
20:11:45  JenW ->  IE -- online class
20:11:53  courosa ->  huge differences between doing this k-12 and uni
20:11:56  Cathy E ->  I left myself open for that one
20:11:57  JenW ->  the rest -- just playing around and also tutorials
20:12:17  Gary ->  @ courosa - Yes
20:12:18  JenW ->  Alec -- VERY VERY big difference
20:12:21  JL4 ->  I just go to http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk and watch the cams come on
20:12:28  JenW ->  thanks Carla
20:12:34  courosa ->  thanks carla
20:12:39  PeggyG ->  Carla it was great hearing from you!
20:12:44  courosa ->  dora says bye as well
20:13:04  James Sigler ->  Bye Dora and Carla
20:13:10  JenW ->  I taught online
20:13:15  JenW ->  used a message board
20:13:18  carlaarena ->  thanks for the great time together here
20:13:26  courosa ->  so dave, what about rules of engagement in an open course? say ... handling trolls?
20:13:45  carlaarena ->  c ya all!
20:13:51  James Sigler ->  Much of my prof. edtech learning this year has been throught the ETT community
20:13:53  PeggyG ->  ETT is much more open-ended that a course
20:13:57  carlaarena ->  Jeff, seredinpity as always for us1
20:14:04  courosa ->  haha
20:14:09  courosa ->  maybe dora can tell you more
20:14:12  JenW ->  yes, I want to know about the trolls
20:14:14  PeggyG ->  Yes I want to hear about the trolls
20:14:38  JenW ->  trip trap trip trap trip trap
20:14:43  PeggyG ->  are trolls people who just play devil's advocate to stir the pot?
20:14:59  JenW ->  that is one of the goats going over the trolls bridge   :)
20:15:13  JenW ->  please call ALEC
20:15:26  JenW ->  what is the count for the Course right now
20:15:31  JenW ->  have a lot of people dropped out??
20:15:41  courosa ->  would love to talk about this some other time, didn't have headphones handy
20:15:45  James Sigler ->  Open courses are not without police
20:16:05  JenW ->  so -- can you type about trolls??
20:16:08  PeggyG ->  I think a lot of people are reading and lurking as much as they can but not necessarily actively contributing--it's a lot to keep up with
20:16:10  courosa ->  but i think there are important questions around the democratic processes in open courses.
20:16:10  James Sigler ->  The people should police their own comunity
20:16:21  JenW ->  NO -- not rules
20:16:23  JenW ->  who posted it
20:16:32  JenW ->  sighs --
20:16:46  James Sigler ->  night
20:16:48  PeggyG ->  thanks all!
20:16:53  PeggyG ->  good night
20:16:58  JohnS ->  Have a nice week, everyone