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EdTechWeekly #97
October 5, 2008
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 18:44:37  dave ->  hi
 18:44:55  dave ->  call me backpllease
 18:55:52  mrsdurff ->  what #?
 18:55:57  mrsdurff ->  91?
 18:56:01  mrsdurff ->  99?
 18:56:15  mrsdurff ->  ty
 18:58:00  Gary ->  Too much pleasureabout the beer
 18:58:10  mrsdurff ->  dave justisn't listening when we are obnoxious
 18:58:16  sheila ->  you mean thosesnarky people?
 18:58:23  mrsdurff ->  yup
 18:58:37  Gary ->  See they don'tpay attention to us in any case
 18:58:46  mrsdurff ->  the creamwill never rise
 18:58:58  mrsdurff ->  no gary theydon't
 18:59:10  mrsdurff ->  when is thatsolstice thing?
 18:59:16  mrsdurff ->  hi alvin
 18:59:23  Alvin Trusty ->  hi
 18:59:26  mrsdurff ->  97 jen
 18:59:32  mrsdurff ->  hi mharm
 18:59:42  mrsdurff ->  welcome tothe chaos
 18:59:47  mrsdurff ->  brb
 18:59:50  mharm ->  hi there
 19:00:08  Gary ->  Hello mharm
 19:00:20  mharm ->  what topic areyou addressing this evening?
 19:00:29  Gary ->  You ask for itand then ignore us
 19:00:48  mrsdurff ->  hey parisi
 19:00:54  Lisa Parisi ->  hello durff
 19:01:08  Gary ->  He or she willlearn
 19:01:13  mrsdurff ->  mharm see?they are chaotic
 19:01:23  JenM ->  @mharm...http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
 19:01:27  mrsdurff ->  lotsa add
 19:01:41  JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
 19:01:44  mharm ->  sorry it shouldbe nharm- Naomi Harm thanks for the invite on Twitter
 19:01:59  mrsdurff ->  smart is notthe word i would choose
 19:02:00  Lisa Parisi ->  Hello Peggy
 19:02:03  mrsdurff ->  hi peggy
 19:02:26  PeggyG ->  Hi all-almostlost track of time!
 19:02:28  JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20081005
 19:03:00  mrsdurff ->  dippty do dah
 19:03:05  mrsdurff ->  hi pam
 19:03:11  Lisa Parisi ->  Hello Pam
 19:03:16  mrsdurff ->  hi cathy
 19:03:16  Lisa Parisi ->  Hi Cathy
 19:03:18  shoemap ->  Hi all!
 19:03:29  PeggyG ->  loving thestream!
 19:03:29  Cathy E ->  Hello All
 19:03:33  mrsdurff ->  jen does theintro better
 19:03:39  JohnS ->  :-b
 19:03:47  JL -> http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
 19:03:52  mharm ->  Greetingseveryonene-
 19:03:58  PeggyG ->  no video for me:-) I'll enjoy watching you
 19:04:07  mrsdurff ->  dave is on amerry go round
 19:04:19  Lisa Parisi ->  How manybeams fit on that page?
 19:04:20  JenM -> http://mfeldstein.com/thomson-suing-zotero/ ...http://www.zotero.org/documentation/word_processor_integration
 19:04:44  JohnS ->  Y'all have toexcuse Dave tonight, folks. He's a bit disadvantaged on thehardware/software side.
 19:05:55  JenM -> http://www.tamaleaver.net/2008/10/04/thomson-reutersendnote-sue-george-mason-uni-over-zotero/
 19:06:32  JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/tools
 19:07:07  PeggyG ->  Now that isawesome Jeff! Great resource!!
 19:07:24  PeggyG ->  and we even getto rate them :-)
 19:07:25  mrsdurff ->  yeah thatwould be useful
 19:07:46  Cathy E ->  Jeff- the pageis great
 19:07:56  Gary ->  Great idea!
 19:08:02  mharm ->  hmmm- lost audiofrom the mebeam
 19:08:09  PeggyG ->  I'll bet thatlist is going to grow by leaps and bounds
 19:08:21  Lisa Parisi ->  how do wefind that on ETT?
 19:08:33  mrsdurff ->  I am
 19:08:36  JohnS ->  PrinterShare:http://www.printeranywhere.com
 19:08:40  PeggyG ->  can we sort thelist or is it just alphabetical order?
 19:08:42  JL ->  For now, link onForums/Tools up top
 19:08:54  Lisa Parisi ->  Ah..thanksJeff
 19:09:18  mrsdurff ->  idea - groupby tools?
 19:09:21  JL ->  If people areinterested, can add a more obvious link
 19:09:31  Cathy E ->  Ha - I wasusing PrintShare last week and all of a sudden people from India wereprinting to my printer
 19:09:32  PeggyG ->  you mean youcan print to your work computer from home? Wow!
 19:09:35  mrsdurff ->  yeah likepeggy said
 19:10:08  PeggyG ->  @Cathy E-nowthat's a scary thought! how do you prevent it?
 19:10:09  dave -> http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html
 19:10:23  PeggyG ->  Yeah Dave!
 19:10:24  Cathy E ->  @ Peggy - Iuninstalled it
 19:10:25  Cathy E ->  :0
 19:10:51  PeggyG ->  delete! :-)
 19:11:08  mrsdurff ->  finallysomeone tells the truth! kudos to dave
 19:11:21  Gary ->  iBook G4 - oursstill works great - new harddrive
 19:11:22  JohnS ->  Did the shelffall down?
 19:11:49  JenM ->  Ebook ReaderUpdates (Kindle and Sony) ...http://mashable.com/2008/10/04/amazon-kindle-2/ ... and ...http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081003-sony-goes-after-kindle-with-new-touchscreen-ebook-reader.html
 19:12:25  PeggyG ->  what's themaximum memory capacity for MacBookPro? Need more & thinnk I'mmaxed out
 19:12:45  mrsdurff ->  wow peggy - iwant to try that printshare!
 19:13:02  mrsdurff ->  my 8thgraders would love that!
 19:13:05  mharm ->  Thanks forsharing the printshare site with us!
 19:13:21  JL -> http://aceonlineschools.com/frippery-froth-a-user-critique-of-online-dictionaries/
 19:13:33  mrsdurff ->  mharm theirentire delicious links list is awesome
 19:13:41  mrsdurff ->  hi nancy
 19:14:05  nancykeane ->  Hidurff. 
 19:14:36  JL -> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
 19:15:27  mrsdurff ->  i let youpeople do it john
 19:15:37  mrsdurff ->  i just usethe stuff
 19:16:08  mharm ->  Editors are notusing a lot in our western Wi area- teachers are usingww.sites.google.com and are bypassing the html code
 19:16:17  Alvin Trusty ->  TheMicrosoft Live software is nice for publishing online
 19:16:46  JohnS ->  Splicd:http://www.splicd.com/
 19:16:47  Gary ->  @mharm - but htmlis so much fun
 19:16:55  mrsdurff ->  for you
 19:17:22  JohnS ->  Example fromRandy Pauch's Last Lecture: http://splicd.com/ji5_MqicxSo/151/174
 19:17:38  mharm ->  I agree- i tooenjoy html- my teachers don't have the time- or are nnot willing tolearn
 19:17:47  mrsdurff ->  welcome back
 19:17:53  Cathy E ->  @JS whatformat does it save it in?
 19:18:07  JohnS ->  It just pointsack to the flash vid
 19:18:07  PeggyG ->  rats! gotbooted out :-(
 19:18:14  JohnS ->  back
 19:18:15  mrsdurff ->  because wehave people like you mharm
 19:18:21  dave -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman
 19:18:26  Gary ->  It is old Dave
 19:18:46  mrsdurff ->  hi angela
 19:19:17  angelamaiers ->  Hi there!How are you all doing tonight?
 19:19:29  mrsdurff ->  weekend istoo short
 19:19:43  mharm ->  Hi Angela!
 19:19:54  angelamaiers ->  Yes itis! Still working on getting sound!
 19:20:14  mrsdurff ->  click thearrow to your right
 19:20:25  angelamaiers ->  @Durff-put another 8th grade lesson up today-love to see what your kids think!
 19:20:28  PeggyG ->  is there a wayto back up delicious and diigo bookmarks?
 19:20:29  mrsdurff ->  the big arrowon the ustream thumbnail
 19:20:39  angelamaiers ->  Yeah-Ihave sound!!!
 19:20:54  angelamaiers ->  What istonights topic?
 19:21:01  nancykeane ->  Just thethought of losing my delicious bookmarks makes my stomach hurt!
 19:21:02  mrsdurff ->  i alreadyposted lessons angela
 19:21:16  mrsdurff ->  will have tobe another week
 19:21:19  angelamaiers ->  Nancy-me,too! Bad thought!
 19:21:32  dave ->  @gary yeah... iknow it's old... i just don't remember the mac hotkeys
 19:21:46  PeggyG ->  @nancykeane-metoo! never thought about it-just trusting--this show is scaring me!
 19:21:53  mrsdurff ->  edtechweeklyis a fast roundup of links
 19:22:01  mrsdurff ->  with a gameshow at the end
 19:22:02  JenM ->  VIDEO ScreenCapture Fox ... http://www.advancity.net/eng/products/capturefox.html
 19:22:07  mrsdurff ->  $5
 19:22:18  mrsdurff ->  i wasexplaining to angela
 19:22:25  JohnS ->  It's ten becausethey mentioned your name.
 19:22:26  dave ->  JenM tested alink?@!??
 19:22:29  mrsdurff ->  notsuggesting anything dave
 19:22:36  angelamaiers ->  How doesit compare to snag it?
 19:22:40  mrsdurff ->  you aretouchy tonight
 19:22:44  dave ->  :)
 19:22:58  mrsdurff ->  it's thatapple computer
 19:23:17  nancykeane ->  OK justexported my delicious bookmarks. Feeling better.
 19:23:35  mharm ->  Jing Rocks!
 19:23:41  mrsdurff ->  did i missthat nancy
 19:23:49  mrsdurff ->  export themto what?
 19:24:00  JL -> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
 19:24:03  PeggyG ->  Jeff is anamazing Jing user-those short tutorials are so helpful!
 19:24:15  JenM ->  @dave can benasty ...
 19:24:16  nancykeane ->  justexported them to my harddrive. Now I don't have to worry about losingthem.
 19:24:30  angelamaiers ->  GreatQuestion!
 19:24:36  Gary ->  @ Dave - tryKeyCue http://www.macility.com/products/keycue/
 19:24:41  mrsdurff ->  oh i see nancy
 19:24:53  JL -> http://www.yuuguu.com/newsletter/2008/09/29/yuuguu-supports-linux-customers/?utm_source=newsletter_sep08&utm_medium=email&utm_term=linux&utm_campaign=yuuguu_email
 19:24:59  mrsdurff ->  what aboutcrossposting with Diigo?
 19:25:02  JohnS ->  Congress acts,sort of saves Internet radio:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080930-congress-acts-sort-of-saves-internet-radio.html
 19:25:21  mrsdurff ->  see how theyare?
 19:25:32  angelamaiers ->  Do youhave the Twitter Question link?
 19:25:50  JL ->  Twitter link:http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
 19:25:58  angelamaiers ->  Thanks JL!
 19:26:03  mharm ->  how aboutfavtape?
 19:26:29  mrsdurff ->  have we allseen Jango?
 19:26:39  Sarah S ->  Bummer . . thecapture fox addon is only for windows.
 19:26:52  dave -> http://www.nccmembership.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_WEBART/view.asp?Q=BF_WEBART_305924
 19:27:12  mrsdurff ->  go pc!
 19:27:27  PeggyG ->  @mrsdurff-don'tknow about Jango-tell us
 19:28:03  angelamaiers ->  Just dida presentation-asked 80 teachers about Web 2.0-only two could definewhat it was. Great link-thanks!
 19:28:13  mrsdurff ->  it's herehttp://www.jango.com/users/16496175/edit?l=0
 19:28:27  mrsdurff ->  i love it!
 19:28:55  Alvin Trusty ->  Just dida workshop.  Asked 80 teacher about Delicious.  Onlytwo knew what it was.
 19:28:56  JenM ->  Simple CC FlickrSearch ... http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
 19:29:11  mrsdurff ->  it startsplaying on it's own
 19:29:44  Alvin Trusty ->  that's aFlickr term
 19:29:48  mrsdurff ->  pizza parlor
 19:29:57  PeggyG ->  Jango is cool!Thanks!
 19:30:02  mrsdurff ->  $5
 19:30:03  Gary ->  I found thatstrange also
 19:30:32  mharm -> www.pics4learning.com
 19:31:00  Alvin Trusty ->  Here theinterestingness link - http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/
 19:31:03  JL -> http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Pays+for+Searching+Til+April+2009+Firefox+Users+Not+Welcome/article13100.htm
 19:31:16  mrsdurff ->  hi maggir
 19:31:20  mrsdurff ->  maggie
 19:32:02  JohnS ->  Pixel Pipe:http://www.pixelpipe.com/
 19:32:03  mharm -> http://ideas.wisconsin.edu (database collection copyright images)
 19:32:32  JohnS ->  SmushIT:http://smushit.com/
 19:32:54  PeggyG ->  glad youmentioned PixelPipe again-I bookmarked that and couldn't remember whotold me about it.
 19:32:56  Alvin Trusty ->  here isanother CC image search site - http://www.behold.cc/
 19:33:29  mharm ->  You sound good
 19:33:33  PeggyG ->  not wonky for me
 19:33:37  dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_nanometer
 19:34:01  mrsdurff ->  hi msomustek
 19:34:23  msomustek ->  eee, hi.first time over here. saw it it twitter!
 19:34:30  msomustek ->  in
 19:34:42  Gary ->  Thanks Alvin
 19:34:48  mrsdurff ->  green likeKermit?
 19:34:58  JenM ->  Study CurveSocial Networking Site: http://www.studycurve.com/
 19:35:11  PeggyG ->  I thought youmeant cleaning up your desktop (green) :-)
 19:35:18  dave ->  hey @msomustek
 19:35:24  Alvin Trusty ->  Floatyour machine in the ocean, ultimate green machine -http://gizmodo.com/5047050/google-patents-floating-server-farm-powered-by-ocean-waves
 19:35:30  mrsdurff ->  SimpleGreen -great product
 19:35:35  msomustek ->  hey dave
 19:35:48  msomustek ->  what's thebenes over Ning w/studycurve?
 19:35:52  dave ->  @msomustek areyou getting the audio?
 19:35:57  msomustek ->  yes
 19:36:02  msomustek ->  sounds good
 19:36:13  JL -> http://www.spellingcity.com/
 19:36:19  dave ->  @msomustek thoseguys don't really know what they're taking about
 19:36:39  angelamaiers ->  I justchecked this out-spelling city is great!
 19:36:51  JL -> http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4917QU20081002?feedType=RSS&feedName=internetNews&rpc=22&sp=true
 19:37:22  JL -> http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
 19:37:30  msomustek ->  @dave whatguys in particular; most guys don't know what they're talking about :p
 19:38:10  JenM ->  Skype ...http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
 19:38:23  mrsdurff ->  jutecht
 19:39:54  JohnS ->  MAA Minute Math:http://maaminutemath.blogspot.com/
 19:39:54  mrsdurff ->  a clip fromJLs past
 19:39:54  PeggyG ->  hahaha!
 19:39:54  dave ->  @msomustek johnis particularly problematic... he's talking now
 19:40:13  mrsdurff ->  welcome backcathy
 19:40:33  angelamaiers ->  Hi Cathy!
 19:40:36  dave -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3353
 19:40:41  msomustek ->  might bebetter than Sudoku
 19:41:11  Cathy E ->  I ammulti-tasking and keep leaving chat - sorry
 19:41:30  PeggyG ->  some of us (me)are still trying to get caught up from week 1 of Connectivism
 19:41:34  mrsdurff ->  working tohard cathy
 19:42:09  JenM ->  George SeimensRecording from Madison Distance Learning Conf ...http://mediasite.ics.uwex.edu/pyle4/Viewer/Viewers/Viewer320TL.aspx?mode=Default&peid=ee8c7a70-6cbc-4c05-8d4d-e493acb6d3e2&pid=8f6d878a-5b6f-45d4-b8f5-cd0d77a6d7f4&playerType=Port25#
 19:42:19  Gary ->  Some of usavoided it from the start
 19:42:23  mharm ->  Go WI!
 19:42:27  PeggyG ->  love followingthe conversations and glad to have YOU ask the hard questions :-)
 19:42:28  mrsdurff ->  figures
 19:43:20  JL -> http://www.thelocal.se/14688.html   http://torrentfreak.com/slacker-uprising-bittorrent-takedown-sent-to-dns-provider-081002/
 19:43:29  mharm ->  WI has two unitsin WI- we are using for our WEMTA conference march 22-24, 2009
 19:43:38  PeggyG ->  Mediasite issometimes problematic on Macs--for some reason
 19:43:44  JenM ->  @mharm ... I grewup in Lodi and went to Madison for by BBA ...
 19:43:50  JenM ->  *my
 19:44:20  Gary ->  Michael Moore'smovie is also available through iTunes
 19:44:22  PeggyG ->  loveSlackerUprising-free rental from iTunes :-) 29 days rental
 19:44:54  msomustek ->  it does
 19:45:01  mharm ->  I use to live inWest Salem, WI- am the CESA #4 tech director there- but now live inBrownsville, MN.
 19:45:08  mrsdurff ->  the policyapplies to dave
 19:45:17  JohnS ->  Spectra:http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i//msnbc/Components/spectra/spectra.html
 19:45:53  Alvin Trusty ->  Spectraworks with Firefox.
 19:46:05  PeggyG ->  haveSlackerUprising on my iPod today :-) wonder if it has the same 24 hourlimit for viewing that it does on iTunes>
 19:46:41  JohnS ->  I'm using itwith firefox.
 19:46:48  Gary ->  @Peggy - samehere - did not use iTunes
 19:46:51  dave -> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/police_iphone_left_in_hot_car_for
 19:46:52  mrsdurff ->  the look ofRSS to come - the future?
 19:47:08  JenM ->  PaperlessLearning Environments ...http://digitaldialogues.blogs.com/learning_technologies/2008/09/the-paperless-l.html
 19:47:16  mrsdurff ->  cream of thecrop?
 19:47:33  Alvin Trusty ->  No,Michigan beat them at home.
 19:47:41  msomustek ->  yeah, lookscool @JenM
 19:47:42  mharm ->  Go WI- thanksfor mentioning the cheddar head state many times tonight!
 19:47:45  JohnS -> http://www.bucknuts.com/news/articles/2008/10/5/buckeyes-sing-happy-song-after-win-at-wisconsin
 19:48:02  dave ->  @mharm that wouldbe for Jmad.
 19:48:03  JohnS -> http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8639134?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002
 19:48:06  JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
 19:48:34  PeggyG ->  have you seenthe CarbonRally challenges for going green? really informative and funto commit to different challenges
 19:49:22  JohnS ->  18th FirstAnnual Ig Nobel Awards: http://improbable.com/ig/2008/
 19:49:56  mrsdurff ->  why is therealways one last link fifteen times?
 19:50:20  PeggyG ->  too funnymrsdurff!
 19:50:31  mrsdurff ->  no cream ofthe crop?
 19:50:37  mrsdurff ->  boo!
 19:50:41  angelamaiers ->  Tonightsshow was GREAT!
 19:50:53  mharm ->  Thanks for agreat show tonight!
 19:51:05  msomustek ->  hahaha
 19:51:07  mrsdurff ->  oh no!
 19:51:09  PeggyG ->  must have acelebration coming up for show 100 :-)
 19:51:15  angelamaiers ->  Just onemore please...
 19:51:19  mrsdurff ->  it was fun!
 19:51:21  PeggyG ->  great show!!thanks!
 19:51:31  mrsdurff ->  ignore dave
 19:51:32  msomustek ->  where?
 19:51:48  mrsdurff ->  herehttp://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
 19:51:55  PeggyG ->  add somethingto Jeff's list of tools? no problem :-)
 19:51:56  JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/tools
 19:52:08  mrsdurff ->  so dave ishappy
 19:52:55  angelamaiers ->  Is therea link to cream of the crop tools
 19:53:09  mrsdurff ->  evidently not
 19:53:16  mrsdurff ->  tthey misledus
 19:53:24  mrsdurff ->  probably onpurpose
 19:53:25  angelamaiers ->  They needto make one!
 19:53:31  mrsdurff ->  i agree
 19:53:45  PeggyG ->  haha--ballotstuffing--do you care?
 19:53:50  mrsdurff ->  they had thatround on last week's show
 19:54:05  dave ->  @PeggyG yes. yeshe does care.
 19:54:08  mrsdurff ->  ballotstuffing? not fair!
 19:54:17  mrsdurff ->  me
 19:54:22  Alvin Trusty ->  only forthis chat
 19:54:23  PeggyG ->  I'm on ETTevery day!
 19:54:24  DaveC ->  besides today?
 19:54:27  msomustek ->  stuffing,tools, cream . . . :?
 19:54:28  sheila ->  rarely
 19:54:54  PeggyG ->  sometimes I login and sometimes I don't-was on this morning
 19:55:12  angelamaiers ->  How iscapture fox different than Snag it
 19:55:46  Alvin Trusty ->  Is therestill a free version of Snag It?  My old link doesn't work anymore.
 19:56:31  angelamaiers ->  N0-Ithink it is about 40 bucks-I love it-well worth it. Is Capture Fox free
 19:57:01  JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/3359
 19:57:12  Alvin Trusty ->  how do Irate something in /TOOLS
 19:57:24  PeggyG ->  curious if youthink the weekly newsletter is contributing to the future of ETT?
 19:57:42  JenM ->  @angela ...capture fox is free and it catpures video, but it appears to be Windowsonly ...
 19:57:54  angelamaiers ->  thanksJen!
 19:57:57  mrsdurff ->  Peggy willvolunteer
 19:58:01  DaveC ->  you need avolunteer to do that too.
 19:58:19  Alvin Trusty ->  mycomment went into moderation.  how long until it makes thelist?
 19:58:31  mrsdurff ->  I volunteerto be a member at large
 19:58:43  PeggyG ->  I'm stillwaiting for some "role descriptions" before I volunteer for anythingmore
 19:58:57  msomustek ->  Maybe moredetail on... yeah, what @PeggyG said.
 19:59:05  dave ->  @Alvin irfan?
 19:59:31  PeggyG ->  I'm smiling atsome of these titles--pretty scary!
 19:59:51  angelamaiers ->  Have agreat night friends-gotta get kids ready for school Monday! Have aGREAT week!
 19:59:58  mrsdurff ->  how would onemoderate comments?
 20:00:01  PeggyG ->  Bye Angela
 20:00:15  mrsdurff ->  come againangela
 20:00:17  JohnS ->  Someone alreadyapproved them.
 20:00:29  Alvin Trusty ->  @dave yes
 20:00:36  dave ->  moderated it
 20:00:39  JohnS ->  BTW, if you login, you don't get moderated.
 20:00:51  Alvin Trusty ->  @dave howdo I add a rating?
 20:01:04  mrsdurff ->  yeah so coulda dummy like me moderate comments?
 20:01:12  mrsdurff ->  john?
 20:01:18  PeggyG ->  interestingdistinction with Worldbridges and ETT-always thought it was the otherway around
 20:01:18  Cathy E ->  @ Alvin - areyou logged in on the ETT page?
 20:01:30  DaveC ->  So a communityLiaison type person...
 20:01:39  Alvin Trusty ->  @CE yes,had to be logged in to make a comment.
 20:01:52  Cathy E ->  Click thestars to vote
 20:02:12  Alvin Trusty ->  Triedclicking the stars.  Didn't do anything... that I could tell.
 20:02:41  PeggyG ->  the ETTcommunity is very strong and growing--more and more people are cominginto to be part of the conversations on all of the shows and cite it asone of their primary resources. I do!
 20:02:52  mrsdurff ->  hey drezac
 20:02:54  DaveC ->  @Alvin, firstyou need to click on the tool name to open the page on it. Then you'll see the voting stars
 20:02:56  Cathy E ->  @ AT click thetitle of the software first
 20:02:59  Cathy E ->  then the stars
 20:03:26  drezac ->  I know I'mlate, but I thought I'd see if I could cathc up
 20:03:40  Alvin Trusty ->  @CE triedthe main page and the program page.  I only see the averageand can't click stars.
 20:03:42  Gary ->  Agree with Dave -am involved in other communities and often finances dominate what theleaders do (unfortunately).
 20:03:46  DaveC ->  I've been on anumber of committees and volunteer efforts, and the biggest problem ispeople keeping up with their commitment.
 20:04:27  msomustek ->  @DaveCabsolutely agree.
 20:05:05  PeggyG ->  I feel ifpeople feel their contributions are being valued (used) they willmaintain their commitment
 20:06:18  Gary ->  Agree with Jenalso - this is a place I come to that does not involve too muchcommitment on my part and I get away from other commitments
 20:06:53  PeggyG ->  There willalways be lurkers but some will get very involved and contribute a lot.It has worked great for 4 of us to share the newsletter work so eachdoes one week a month. Agree with your point
 20:07:50  drezac ->  People arestarting to have SOP many communities.
 20:08:15  drezac ->  We have tostart bringing them together or making a choice about where are timegoes
 20:08:24  dave ->  @drezac we dohave some somewhere... maybe http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
 20:09:25  DaveC ->  What aboutpeople who have an idea for an episode, but not for a series?
 20:10:10  DaveC ->  Still earlyadopters....
 20:10:15  PeggyG ->  if you use acommon tag for ETT shows we can save the search on Tweetdeck and nevermiss a show. I use ETT and podcast and webcast but I don't get all ofthem that way. I follow ETT on Twitter too.
 20:10:23  sheila ->  Yes DaveC
 20:10:25  JohnS ->  yeah, DaveC.We've had that conversation, too. We used to do that in webcastathons.
 20:10:35  Cathy E ->  And you havethose of us who can't get our show posted
 20:10:55  mrsdurff ->  so dideveryone volunteer for something?
 20:11:09  Gary ->  This show goesmuch further than those that participate each week.  Most ofus probably share many of the links.
 20:11:56  PeggyG ->  @Gary-excellentpoint--the show definitely goes mjuch further than those whoparticipate live and online.
 20:12:14  DaveC ->  Thesite/community is also mentioned on other shows.  Plus, didn'tDave just make top 100 list of people to follow on twitter?
 20:12:38  mrsdurff ->  i don't thinkso
 20:13:39  PeggyG ->  didn't you sayonce that there are many more people subscribed to the showhostnewsletter than actual showhosts?
 20:13:54  mrsdurff ->  true
 20:14:16  mrsdurff ->  communitieswaver, sway, change
 20:14:56  PeggyG ->  what do youmean pacify the community?
 20:15:19  dave ->  did i say pacify?
 20:15:29  PeggyG ->  true-not a showhost and not in Skype chat for showhosts
 20:15:47  PeggyG ->  yes-I probablyspelled it wrong :-(
 20:15:50  mrsdurff ->  but we tellyou peggy
 20:16:16  PeggyG ->  I don't feelleft out at all-I don't need to be pacified :-) This is my favoritecommunity!
 20:16:26  DaveC ->  Download thelogs from China...
 20:16:42  mrsdurff ->  are thereshowhosts who are not in the skype chat?
 20:17:00  Gary ->  and probablythose of us that don't participate at that level probably have reasonsfor that.
 20:17:03  PeggyG ->  Greatsuggestion Jen
 20:17:23  mrsdurff ->  watch outgary - dave in on a run
 20:17:31  dave ->  :)
 20:17:33  DaveC ->  @Gary, right! Noone should take lack of participation for lack of appreciation or lackof caring. Sometimes it is just time.
 20:18:08  dave ->  well... that'strue for jeff
 20:18:10  mrsdurff ->  it wasn'tthat easy for us
 20:18:20  mrsdurff ->  were wespecial?
 20:18:33  mrsdurff ->  what wouldhappen? john would do it
 20:18:35  sheila ->  So a smaller"executive board?"
 20:18:39  dave ->  john does it now
 20:18:50  mrsdurff ->  exactly
 20:19:26  mrsdurff ->  please do JL
 20:19:31  Gary ->  @DaveC - thanks -I am deeply involved in 2 other groups - EdTechWeekly is part of myescape (as strange as that may sound)
 20:19:48  PeggyG ->  I think it'sthe names of all of those "commitees" that are scary :-)
 20:20:41  PeggyG ->  this is a lotlike "parent involvement"-everyone can't be involved in the same waysbut it doesn't mean they don't care.
 20:20:43  mrsdurff ->  volunteerPeggy
 20:21:10  PeggyG ->  I did volunteerto help with the newsletter
 20:21:15  drezac ->  This communityhas helped me in my early days of my career very much.
 20:21:24  sheila ->  Some people arevisionaries and others are doers; each can play a role.
 20:21:57  mrsdurff ->  and thatmight happen
 20:22:01  mrsdurff ->  :)
 20:23:18  DaveC ->  Is there apriority of placement of people? Looking at the list, there are a lotof position and only so many people able to step up right now.
 20:23:28  PeggyG ->  yes Sheial-andsome are both visionaries and doers :-)
 20:23:35  Gary ->  In groups I aminvolved in money is very important and takes a great deal oftime.  As a result those that are involved at that levelvolunteer or are elected for fixed periods of time.
 20:23:59  JohnS ->  It's an ideal,with a lot of sustainability built in. Realistically, we would havepeople in more than one position.
 20:24:05  JohnS ->  Ghost runner onfirst.
 20:24:08  PeggyG ->  I don't thinkthe "community" knows there is a need
 20:24:10  mrsdurff ->  what? I am
 20:24:17  mrsdurff ->  just multitasking
 20:24:24  sheila ->  @Peggy - Iagree.
 20:24:37  mrsdurff ->  i will get toit then - volunteering for sth
 20:24:42  drezac ->  This needs totip, a la the Tipping Point
 20:25:04  PeggyG ->  this show talksabout the organizational planning but it doesn't get mentioned on othershows
 20:25:10  DaveC ->  Titles scare me,they don't always describe the position.
 20:25:22  mrsdurff ->  a paypalbutton like we did for Lee
 20:25:32  Gary ->  Many groups haveexecutive directors who get paid to do the day to day work.
 20:25:48  drezac ->  5013c?
 20:26:04  dave ->  @drezac 75% donethe application process
 20:26:07  Gary ->  The executive maygive guidance but does not do most of the things
 20:26:10  JohnS ->  @drezacEducation Bridges is moving in that direction.
 20:26:16  drezac ->  Gotcha!
 20:26:30  sheila ->  We had some ofthe same issues with NHSTE - started looking in to Going from Good toGreat for non-profits. There are issues with volunteers.
 20:26:31  JohnS ->  501c3 isUS-specific, though.
 20:27:09  drezac ->  so you can'tget money from overseas...
 20:27:27  JohnS ->  we can, it justgets more complicated.
 20:27:33  Cathy E ->  So we just getrid of every bus
 20:27:45  DaveC ->  I can help withthat part... (hosting)
 20:27:50  mrsdurff ->  2009?
 20:28:38  PeggyG ->  some peoplemight be willing to make donations towards the server when they don'thave time to commit
 20:28:56  mrsdurff ->  i think so too
 20:28:57  Gary ->  Many of us wouldprobably pay for some sort of supporting membership
 20:29:06  drezac ->  Can anyone justcreate their own show here?
 20:29:07  mrsdurff ->  dave nixesall my ideas
 20:29:17  mrsdurff ->  you suggestpeggy
 20:29:21  JohnS ->  @Gary -- thatalso gets odd in an International arena.
 20:29:23  PeggyG ->  Yes-andsometimes when people pay something they contribute more
 20:29:35  mrsdurff ->  drezac - yes& no
 20:30:05  JohnS ->  @drezac newshows addressed here: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1492
 20:30:15  mrsdurff ->  most drezacgo thru webcastacademy
 20:30:26  mrsdurff ->  ah john foundit
 20:31:09  mrsdurff ->  benevolent?who said dave is kind?
 20:31:26  PeggyG ->  regardless ofsharing the "work" load I think there still needs to be leaders whocarry forward the vision
 20:31:30  dave ->  benevolence isn'talways about kindness :|
 20:31:37  JohnS ->  (John had apretty good idea where it was)
 20:31:59  drezac ->  Got that. Ijust wonder if it were more open for creating content, that you mighthave a more give and take community
 20:32:59  mrsdurff ->  good pt therejohn
 20:33:19  mrsdurff ->  i think weshould
 20:33:30  mrsdurff ->  despite thenaysayers
 20:33:30  PeggyG ->  is there a"blurp" that we could post in the newsletter very week about this kindof involvement? lots of peopple get that newsletter
 20:33:36  DaveC ->  Does anyone knowwhere the majority of people are located who participate?
 20:33:49  DaveC ->  (or follow shows)
 20:33:51  mrsdurff ->  north america
 20:34:09  dave ->  @DaveC there'ssome stuff around somewhere
 20:34:19  DaveC ->  Oz/Nz educatorsgroup has "feasts" from time to time to bring the community closer andadd faces to voices.
 20:34:43  mrsdurff ->  you have oneDaveC then i will attend
 20:34:54  mrsdurff ->  if you sendthe cab
 20:35:05  drezac ->  Thanks so much.I will continue to check out, and be a part of the community, as longas it's around.
 20:35:06  PeggyG ->  volunteers areessential--don't need/expect to be paid
 20:35:06  DaveC ->  I'll pick you upon the way :-)
 20:35:44  Gary ->  Jeff - notice howmany people stayed on to talk about this - it probably is important.
 20:35:56  mrsdurff ->  waot - idon't want paid
 20:36:18  mrsdurff ->  it is Gary
 20:37:10  DaveC ->  Well we're doingNECAP testing tomorrow, so I guess I'll write answers to some questionson the volunteer form.
 20:37:21  Cathy E ->  I love youJeff and Dave
 20:37:25  Gary ->  Thanks again!
 20:37:27  PeggyG ->  can you give ussome kind of plea/description we can put in the newsletter every weekto inform people about ways they can contribute?
 20:37:45  DaveC ->  hahah
 20:37:49  sheila ->  I want to seethat!
 20:37:55  sheila ->  "SEE"
 20:37:57  mrsdurff ->  i have workto do yet - miles to go before i sleep - nite!
 20:38:01  PeggyG ->  I didn't knowthis conversation was about structure :-)
 20:38:07  Cathy E ->  nite
 20:38:11  DaveC ->  nite all.
 20:38:22  JL ->  night all - thanks