ETT Community Development - Triangles, Newsletters, & Positions
19:59:19 JohnS -> piano. nice.
20:00:26 JL -> Rob Coslow - "I Do"
20:01:55 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
20:03:46 PeggyG -> Loud and clear :-)
20:03:48 JenM -> hi, all!
20:03:55 sheila (not singing) -> Hi all!
20:03:59 PeggyG -> Don't link to them
20:04:09 minhaaj -> do i have to go to ustream to listen ?
20:04:14 sheila (not singing) -> Was it me? Oh, no
20:04:38 sheila (not singing) -> :)
20:04:40 PeggyG -> People will think you suport them if you connect to them on LinkedIn
20:04:48 sheila (not singing) -> sounds good
20:04:52 PeggyG -> everyone sounds good
20:05:03 minhaaj -> I am listening to the interview, i am having alot of gas
20:05:07 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/live Minhaaj, you stream there
20:06:20 PeggyG -> She didn't get any answers wrong!!
20:06:40 sheila (not singing) -> Until you asked a qsuestion!!!!
20:06:41 PeggyG -> Minhaaj was just pushing her to sing
20:07:17 PeggyG -> You have an agenda?? :-)
20:07:26 sheila (not singing) -> 8.66 cm
20:07:32 PeggyG -> Yes a flow chart right?
20:07:45 JL -> http://www.worldbridges.net/node/3617
20:07:49 JohnS -> approximately, yes.
20:09:04 PeggyG -> Who are the trustees?
20:10:39 PeggyG -> I thought there was some kind of board that included webcasters-one rep per webcast
20:11:04 PeggyG -> I'm probably just confused
20:11:17 JenM -> sorry ... phone rang
20:11:28 JoseRodriguez -> Hi Folks.
20:11:30 PeggyG -> That's sounding familiar :-)
20:12:05 PeggyG -> trustee panel is like exec. committee?
20:12:18 JoseRodriguez -> Do we have a link today?
20:12:26 JenM -> http://www.worldbridges.net/node/3617
20:12:30 JL -> http://www.worldbridges.net/node/3617
20:12:47 JoseRodriguez -> thanks
20:14:31 PeggyG -> It sounds so complex--do you have enough people to cover all of those roles?
20:15:00 JohnS -> Setting up a structure for the long term. Some of these groups might currently only have one person.
20:15:28 JoseRodriguez -> Hey Durff
20:15:33 PeggyG -> Yes Dave and Jeff-founding trustees
20:15:36 mrsdurff -> hey
20:15:41 JenM -> hey Durff!
20:15:43 PeggyG -> Hi Durff
20:16:24 PeggyG -> who are the policy makers?
20:16:47 JohnS -> trustees, I believe, with voice from the others
20:17:18 PeggyG -> is the voice informal or votes?
20:17:40 PeggyG -> who approves/accepts new webcasts?
20:17:50 mrsdurff -> i'm in charge of coffee
20:18:20 PeggyG -> I'll be the cheerleader :-)
20:18:44 Carlos F -> I'll help Lisa to hold the tray
20:18:54 mrsdurff -> there we go!
20:18:54 PeggyG -> LOL
20:19:54 PeggyG -> I think the trustees along with the board (representatives of all of the other shows) would be good--they would all know if the new show would be something different or more of the same
20:20:36 mrsdurff -> sounds like Thomas Jeffersonian ideas
20:21:25 Carlos F -> Wouldn't trustees fonction as censorship? Sorry, back in a moment...
20:21:33 mrsdurff -> true
20:22:09 PeggyG -> the long term connection is really important and valuable
20:22:10 JoseRodriguez -> @dave Only to get the ball rolling.
20:24:23 PeggyG -> trusted users? how do you earn trust?
20:24:40 JL -> history of responsible participation
20:24:51 mrsdurff -> @Peggy being there
20:24:56 JohnS -> it is hard to define, though.
20:25:37 PeggyG -> I think it's important to define it accurately--the way it really works not just on paper (in terms of communication, approval of shows, etc.)
20:25:45 mrsdurff -> it is defining our community
20:27:05 PeggyG -> That's an interesting criteria
20:27:06 JoseRodriguez -> sounds fair....
20:27:22 PeggyG -> you've never been sent to time out :-)
20:27:34 JoseRodriguez -> do we get a lot of content deleted at ETT?
20:27:43 dave -> lots of spam jose
20:27:46 PeggyG -> Good question Jose
20:27:48 dave -> very occasional content
20:27:56 mrsdurff -> agreed jeff
20:27:59 JoseRodriguez -> got it.
20:28:01 dave -> we had a company that was deleted the other day
20:28:13 JoseRodriguez -> I saw that.
20:28:18 dave -> they had made a 'straight ad' that contracdicted our terms of service
20:28:43 dave -> (@jose... just explaining for the record :) )
20:28:46 PeggyG -> Do you have a criteria for people being "eligible" to host an ETT badge on their blog or website?
20:29:07 JohnS -> what does a badge mean?
20:29:10 JoseRodriguez -> We had talked about the servers being paid by community/colletive
20:29:13 mrsdurff -> i don't think we have those peggy
20:29:14 Carlos F -> Ah, now I understand what you mean by trustees ... it would be a way to prevent those unwantable entries
20:29:25 JohnS -> That's interesting. We'd have to adjust the copyright for the badges to control that.
20:29:31 dave -> @carlos adn settling family disputes
20:29:34 PeggyG -> a badge would be something like you see on Ning communities--shows you are a member and supporter/user
20:30:12 mrsdurff -> do we have those and do we want them (i think not)
20:30:24 Carlos F -> To have something like ning would be a solution ... you only get in if invited
20:30:51 PeggyG -> You can join the ETT group on Diigo
20:31:10 mrsdurff -> because ning doesn't stream
20:31:13 mrsdurff -> does it?
20:31:17 Carlos F -> Ning isn't for free
20:31:29 JoseRodriguez -> so what is the difference?
20:31:42 mrsdurff -> me too
20:31:51 mrsdurff -> i have to agree with dave
20:32:00 dave -> ack...
20:32:03 mrsdurff -> surprising but true
20:32:08 JoseRodriguez -> @durff you don't have to
20:32:09 Carlos F -> Ning is like a private space where you interact but not like we are doing here
20:32:40 mrsdurff -> and we may some day
20:33:08 PeggyG -> If you have a more traditional kind of flow chart you wouldn't have overlapping people in the various categories.
20:33:22 mrsdurff -> bingo
20:33:35 PeggyG -> Is this part of the paperwork reduction act?
20:33:42 JoseRodriguez -> so.. what is the objective again???? Create a structure that facilitates what is going on already?
20:33:55 mrsdurff -> :?
20:33:57 PeggyG -> Good question JenM
20:34:21 Carlos F -> Yes, you must avoid burocracy... we, in Portugal, are experts in burocracy and it doesn't work...
20:34:31 JoseRodriguez -> ahhh and supports growth, scalability?
20:34:50 PeggyG -> keep it manageable
20:35:08 mrsdurff -> self-sustaining community
20:35:27 PeggyG -> you need roles not "people" so others can step up and get involved
20:35:27 JoseRodriguez -> true
20:35:41 JoseRodriguez -> @peggy yep
20:36:05 mrsdurff -> CEO = JL
20:36:18 PeggyG -> start by defining the roles
20:36:24 JoseRodriguez -> the "thumb in the cheeck" of Edtechtalk :-)
20:37:24 PeggyG -> If the trustees have to be founding members, why don't you call them that?
20:37:28 mrsdurff -> so write that job description where and by when?
20:37:34 Carlos F -> It's 1:35 AM here and I've got to go... Bye for now
20:37:43 JenM -> by carlos!
20:37:45 PeggyG -> Bye Carlos
20:38:17 PeggyG -> Can it fund itself?
20:38:43 PeggyG -> I like the idea of non-profit
20:38:47 mrsdurff -> i think we are asking too many qts
20:38:59 mrsdurff -> let's narrow the focus
20:39:07 JoseRodriguez -> @peggy that's the idea
20:39:55 PeggyG -> If you define "what is" it makes it easier to create the structure for expansion and growth
20:40:41 PeggyG -> Do you have any existing written job descriptions for what you are doing now?
20:41:02 JoseRodriguez -> @jen... good distinction between maintaining and plan for growth.
20:41:52 mrsdurff -> i don't possess those technical skills to do much that is useful
20:42:15 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/davecormier/2754568141/
20:42:53 mrsdurff -> so start a page and let us get to work
20:43:00 mrsdurff -> hey parisi
20:43:08 lparisi -> Hello
20:43:30 mrsdurff -> hey lorna
20:43:58 lorna -> hi have you made good decisions
20:43:58 PeggyG -> Could we just start with a page where Jeff and Dave list all of the things they do?
20:44:07 JoseRodriguez -> gotta run...time to take daughters to dance class.
20:44:15 JohnS -> let's do it here.
20:44:25 JoseRodriguez -> I'll check in later for audio and chat
20:45:46 PeggyG -> Doesn't that all bring you back to the mission statement?
20:47:03 PeggyG -> I like the concept of braintrust educators :-)
20:47:23 PeggyG -> Where in AZ?
20:47:38 PeggyG -> That's where I am-Phoenix AZ
20:50:05 PeggyG -> That makes a lot of sense--to have everyone host their own shows on their own servers-makes it much more manageable
20:50:33 lparisi -> What do we mean by hosting? The archive part of it or the stream part of it?
20:50:54 JenM -> @lisa ... I THINK they mean the archive
20:51:02 PeggyG -> Hmmm--both archiving and streaming?
20:51:25 lparisi -> We do
20:51:33 lparisi -> Yes
20:52:14 PeggyG -> EdTechTalk becomes the aggregator?
20:52:15 lorna -> I agree with using our own sites
20:52:21 lparisi -> Right now I link to edtechtalk for the archive. We could do it the other way around.
20:52:59 JohnS -> right, lisa.
20:53:14 PeggyG -> That's such a good point!
20:53:44 JenM -> http://www.archive.org/details/audio
20:54:50 PeggyG -> Would internet archive be a backup or the original storage along with the host server of each content producer?
20:55:26 JohnS -> right. Something like that, Peggy.
20:56:58 JL -> http://www.worldbridges.net/node/3617
20:57:05 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/davecormier/2754568141/
20:57:15 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/davecormier/2754506579/
20:57:22 PeggyG -> Can we go back to starting by defining roles/job descriptions of everyone who is currently contributing?
20:57:34 PeggyG -> I'm a turtle
20:58:05 lparisi -> That's an Indian tale.
20:58:36 lorna -> can you sum up the conversation with some key thoughts - I came here late
20:59:55 PeggyG -> How can you make suggestions for ways to improve if you don't know what exists? I like the idea of defining the roles
21:00:00 lparisi -> That's true
21:01:19 lorna -> does Jeff have a husband
21:01:46 JenM -> @lorna :)
21:02:31 mrsdurff -> my colleagues don't understand
21:02:41 lparisi -> My colleagues don't care.
21:02:56 mrsdurff -> but we have each other
21:03:11 lparisi -> I don't care about the job application...I just don't know what is needed.
21:03:14 mrsdurff -> really?
21:03:23 mrsdurff -> not you parisi
21:04:44 mrsdurff -> first - create a page
21:05:18 mrsdurff -> second - we will write as a community the job descriptions
21:05:40 mrsdurff -> third - we all have coffee
21:05:47 minhaaj -> sorry got dc. load shedding :)
21:05:59 lorna -> just tell me what to do
21:06:01 JL -> management coordinator
21:06:08 JL -> cms plumber
21:06:11 lparisi -> lorna, that's how I feel
21:06:31 JohnS -> drupal maintenance
21:06:35 JohnS -> server apps
21:06:49 JohnS -> hosting / interfacing with the hosting company
21:06:55 JohnS -> streaming tools
21:06:58 lorna -> switch to wordpress
21:07:04 mrsdurff -> we elected you
21:07:34 JL -> newsletterer
21:07:35 lorna -> pasp uses wo
21:07:35 mrsdurff -> yw
21:07:43 lorna -> wp
21:07:49 JL -> communications officer
21:07:57 mrsdurff -> what gioes in a newletter?
21:08:09 JenM -> whatever YOU want, Lisa :)
21:08:24 lparisi -> Durff...tag, you're it
21:08:35 mrsdurff -> what about monthly
21:08:52 JL -> specific project coordinators
21:09:40 mrsdurff -> is john writing this all down?
21:09:48 JohnS -> I wish.
21:10:00 mrsdurff -> and why not?
21:10:08 JohnS -> I have a feeling someone will be elected to turn this into some sort of sensible document.
21:10:20 mrsdurff -> i elect you
21:10:40 mrsdurff -> dream on
21:10:41 minhaaj -> what are we talking about ?
21:10:42 minhaaj -> :)
21:10:52 minhaaj -> i can't listen ustream :(
21:11:06 lparisi -> Me!
21:11:10 JenM -> communications officer ... responding to community inquiries, too
21:11:16 mrsdurff -> i elect her
21:11:23 lparisi -> No...
21:11:23 JenM -> Done!
21:11:28 JohnS -> @minhaaj we don't really know what we're talking about.
21:11:29 lparisi -> I want to help
21:11:34 minhaaj -> hehe
21:11:35 mrsdurff -> dave - behave
21:11:36 lparisi -> But don't know how
21:11:55 lparisi -> Skype me and I'll telll you what I mean
21:11:55 mrsdurff -> he is being difficult
21:12:12 PeggyG -> I think the point is that you can't volunteer to help if you don't know what kind of help is needed
21:12:26 JohnS -> Amen, Peggy.
21:12:27 lparisi -> yes, peggy!
21:12:39 lorna -> peggy rules
21:12:42 mrsdurff -> i can't imagine that Jeff
21:13:06 PeggyG -> That's why it would help me to see roles/job descriptions in writing along with an organizational chart
21:13:27 mrsdurff -> she will too
21:13:40 PeggyG -> Can't write a newsletter if you don't know what's important to include in it
21:13:49 mrsdurff -> i'll help
21:13:50 [Action] minhaaj -> seems left out.
21:13:57 minhaaj -> Can i help if theres a project ?
21:14:35 PeggyG -> Can't you just put that information on the website?
21:14:41 JL -> sure Minhaaj
21:14:55 minhaaj -> and by the way i am ready to write webcastacademy linux tutorial :)
21:15:23 JL -> excellent Minhaaj
21:15:24 PeggyG -> I look at the website all the time to see what's coming up on the shows--there's just not much detail except for date/time/name
21:15:57 lorna -> just do it
21:16:08 lorna -> jen is right
21:16:14 minhaaj -> Write it on word file and send it ?
21:16:15 JL -> That was an excellent point Jen
21:16:25 minhaaj -> How about i write a post on my blog and you can link to it ?
21:16:31 JenM -> Yeah! Lorna, no ONE has EVER said that on ETT!!!
21:16:34 minhaaj -> or you can mirror it anyways :)
21:16:58 JL -> I think it might be more efficient to have all of that happening within the website itself
21:17:18 minhaaj -> no pro
21:17:19 minhaaj -> prob
21:17:41 mrsdurff -> a database of emails
21:17:57 minhaaj -> i'll get screenshots of everything, only thing new is sound recorder, all other things are same. ustream was pretty normal, so was skype. nothing new
21:18:23 PeggyG -> I would like to see it on the website too
21:18:28 mrsdurff -> parisi = editor?
21:18:53 lorna -> personal commendations and recommendation
21:19:28 PeggyG -> Yes I would be very willing to help but can't figure out what you need
21:19:37 PeggyG -> LOL
21:19:48 mrsdurff -> peggy wants to put the newletter on the website
21:20:01 PeggyG -> I can't write job descriptions because I don't know what the jobs are
21:20:12 JenM -> oops!
21:20:42 JenM -> sorry ... lost my wifi
21:20:45 mrsdurff -> struggle between dave and sense
21:21:06 JenM -> my internet keeps cutting out ...
21:21:28 mrsdurff -> spellcheck
21:21:33 lorna -> CMS - I will get over Drupal and help there
21:22:10 mrsdurff -> let's aim at monthly newsletter for first 3 moths
21:22:20 mrsdurff -> months
21:22:31 lparisi -> durff...you going to be on the team?
21:22:40 JenM -> someone else in house hogging my wifi ... sorry!
21:22:42 mrsdurff -> sure
21:22:51 mrsdurff -> jose probably
21:22:58 lparisi -> Great
21:23:13 lparisi -> We have formed a PR team
21:23:19 lparisi -> or at least a newsletter team
21:23:35 mrsdurff -> part of the PR team
21:24:14 PeggyG -> What's the purpose of the newsletter? to describe upcoming shows or past shows? What else?
21:24:36 mrsdurff -> yeah!
21:24:50 mrsdurff -> dave is agreeing to something
21:24:56 mrsdurff -> quick agree
21:25:06 lparisi -> I agree.
21:25:13 mrsdurff -> i 2nd
21:25:15 JenM -> I heard a bottle cap!
21:25:21 mrsdurff -> motion carried
21:25:24 JohnS -> not mine.
21:26:05 JenM -> Jen
21:26:07 JenM -> To do:
21:26:25 JenM -> what it means to be an "active" ETT community member
21:26:34 mrsdurff -> bingo
21:26:46 minhaaj -> active ETT member - JL
21:26:51 minhaaj -> :)
21:26:54 JenM -> :)
21:27:13 mrsdurff -> i'm praying for you parisi
21:27:23 lparisi -> You're in this with me Durff
21:27:37 mrsdurff -> he's talking to you
21:27:45 lparisi -> He said Lisa.
21:27:56 mrsdurff -> he doesn't call me that
21:27:56 lparisi -> LOL
21:28:05 PeggyG -> Lisa-I'll help you once we figure out what we're doing.
21:28:31 mrsdurff -> what can i do with email?
21:28:59 mrsdurff -> oi veh...they're arguing
21:29:05 PeggyG -> Yes--write down what you do!! :-) everything, not just what you don't like to do
21:29:30 mrsdurff -> so answer the email
21:29:42 PeggyG -> FAQs--those kinds of email questions are often repeaters
21:30:04 lorna -> I think we think Jeff has all of the answers
21:30:21 mrsdurff -> can it those qts be automatically forwarded?
21:30:58 PeggyG -> Forums and FAQs are often the easy way to answer people's questions andto involve others in answering them
21:31:05 lorna -> no one will ever write an email again
21:32:01 mrsdurff -> so how long does email take?
21:32:19 lparisi -> Durff...you're working on the newsletter
21:32:33 mrsdurff -> i can do more than one thing
21:32:34 PeggyG -> Post the next meeting on the site and invite others to join in
21:32:42 mrsdurff -> with my coffee
21:33:08 lparisi -> bye
21:33:11 mrsdurff -> last week before school....
21:33:25 PeggyG -> see you next time-I'll keep checking the site and forum
21:33:31 lparisi -> So Dave...I am waiting for you
21:33:37 mrsdurff -> so next Monday after It's Elementary
21:33:41 mrsdurff -> rightr?
21:34:36 PeggyG -> Watch it!
21:34:42 mrsdurff -> jeff=stickler
21:34:43 PeggyG -> Mac people????
21:35:13 JenM -> need to bond with family ... they think I'm avoiding them ...
21:35:20 JenM -> nite all :)
21:35:21 mrsdurff -> yes
21:35:30 PeggyG -> Then you need to provide instructions for posting...
21:35:45 mrsdurff -> have a better idea?
21:36:25 mrsdurff -> would the shows sort better that way?
21:36:35 PeggyG -> Good night everyone
21:36:38 mrsdurff -> nite
21:36:40 lparisi -> good nite