Women of Web 2.0 Show # 27
Welcome to our show. This week Jen, Vicki , Sharon and Cheryl chat with Stephen Downes. It was a blast! You can view the agenda, the wiki for links and the chat.
Please do NOT rely on the chat for accurate links. In order to make the chat more managable I delete numbers in a wholesale fashion. But the links in the wiki are accurate.
Enjoy and come back next week to hear Brian Crosby from Learning is Messy.
Agenda for May 15, 2007
http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/May152007
The Chat
sharonp -> Hi Cheri!
CheriT -> Hi Sharon, how are you?
sharonp -> Been another busy week... but am just great
sharonp -> how about you?
CheriT -> me, too ... so much going on
sharonp -> feeling guilty that it has been over weeks since I last blogged
sharonp -> but I had to go underground while making decision about new job.... should do something soon
CheriT -> I remember from last week that you said you got a new job
sharonp -> Sorry - I clicked on a link on the page and whooops - took me out!
CheriT -> no problem
CheriT -> i'm working on several things and wanted to get in here so i wouldn't forget *)
sharonp -> yes, am leaving my school to join LEARN Quebec, an educational foundation associated with the ministry of ed - develop online curric for new virtual high school and do professional development with the English teaching sector here in Quebec - fantastic opportunities!
sharonp -> am here early - moderating tonight!
CheriT -> wow!
CheriT -> big time stuff
sharonp -> I am soooo excited
CheriT -> we have a virtual high school in Illinois - if you need anything I can direct you
sharonp -> would love to see what model of delivery they are using
CheriT -> in fact Kathy Clesson, one of my students who works at our lab high school teaches for IVHS
sharonp -> I will keep your offer in mind
CheriT -> they use eCollege
sharonp -> is it anything like elluminate?
CheriT -> as the course management system
CheriT -> no it's like blackboard
CheriT -> I think they do have access to eluminate
sharonp -> actually we will be discussing elearning a lot tonight with Stephen Dwones
CheriT -> great!
sharonp -> he has some great ideas - always love hearing him
CheriT -> i agree
sharonp -> and could pinch myself for being able to be in a live conversation with him
sharonp -> are you teaching any courses right now or are you between sessions?
CheriT -> i'm in between - new classes start next monday
CheriT -> completely online, blended - both graduate level
sharonp -> I love blended
sharonp -> am somewhat regretful to be leaving classroom teachng
CheriT -> i understand, i really like teaching ... always have
sharonp -> my M.A. thesis was about using a blended model
CheriT -> cool
sharonp -> yeah, web . has kicked in since then - the opportunities for online communication abound
sharonp -> have you seen the Horizon Project videos
sharonp -> ?
CheriT -> it has exploded - great way to teach
CheriT -> no i haven't , i need to get over there
sharonp -> just watched the first one a few minutes ago - so impressive
sharonp -> it is just great to see such wonderful student-generated content
CheriT -> that's my next step in my classes
sharonp -> my students did a number of wiki projects this year - some in-class some with other classes; their work was amazing... wikis are such fantastic collaborative learning spaces.
CheriT -> what grade level?
sharonp -> grades and
CheriT -> would you mind sharing the URL?
CheriT -> i'd like to show it as an example to faculty and my undergrads next fall
sharonp -> everything from sentences from vocabulary lessons to wikipedia-type projects - sure thing
sharonp -> let me dig up a few
CheriT -> great, thanks
sharonp -> http://glengarrypedia.wikispaces.com/
Stephen Downes -> WiAOC : Hiya
Stephen Downes -> Hiya
sharonp -> Hi ya Stephen
sharonp -> https://gvc.wikispaces.com/
sharonp -> for Cheri
sharonp -> sharing some of my students wiki work this year
sharonp -> https://jerusalem.wikispaces.com/
CheriT -> thanks, Sharon
sharonp -> https://lccgrenglish.wikispaces.com/
sharonp -> those are some good ones
sharonp -> Hi Larry
sharonp -> Hi Cheryl
sharonp -> oops
sharonp -> Hi Cheryl!
cheryloakes wow -> Hello getting ready be here soon
CheriT -> Hi Cheryl
cheryloakes wow -> Hello Cheri, sharon, and just did a sound check with Stephen
cheryloakes wow -> brbn
Bee -> good evening
cheryloakes wow -> Hello, the stream should be coming up in seconds
Larry.Carlton -> Sounds great!
Bee (Brazil) -> good evening...trying to log in but getting disconnected
Bee (Brazil) -> should I click on A or B for the sound?
sharonp -> Hey VJ
cheryloakes wow -> Hello, Bee, p lease check on channel A
vincej -> hi sharon
cheryloakes wow -> Thanks Larry for the sound check
vincej -> a
cheryloakes wow -> hello all, glad you could make it
Bee (Brazil) -> hello cheryl... is there any sound coming out?
Bee (Brazil) -> how do I make it work? just click on the icon?
vincej -> bee. click on the speaker icon
Bee (Brazil) -> windows?
cheryloakes wow -> Bee please click on channel A and you should hear the sound just fine. thanks vincej
Bee (Brazil) -> I get an error messatge
cheryloakes wow -> what browser are you using? platform?
vincej -> bee ff or ie
Bee (Brazil) -> firefox
Bee (Brazil) -> windows
vincej -> can u try ie
cheryloakes wow -> Sometimes you can hear on chan b as well
cheryloakes wow -> thanks for helping vincej
CheriT -> :)
Bee (Brazil) -> nothing happens...get a message
Bee (Brazil) -> ASX version
vincej -> i had same probelm with ff tonight..now on ie and it works
Stephen Downes -> http://www.downes.ca
Bee (Brazil) -> .
Janice S. -> Try clicking on the third icon under the EdTech Talk.
Stephen Downes -> http://halfanhour.blogspot.com
Jennifer Wagner -> Hello
Bee (Brazil) -> or am asked to download
sharonp -> I usually download and then Real Player or iTunes opens it
Bee (Brazil) -> itunes
cheryloakes wow -> JL Bee can't hear yet any ideas?
Jennifer Wagner -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/May
Jennifer Wagner -> welcome to our WIKI
Bee (Brazil) -> but no sound
vincej -> bee try a reboot
cheryloakes wow -> how about real player or windows media/
Bee (Brazil) -> of the computer?
sharonp -> i Tunes wasn't working for me earlier - I use the Real Player
Jennifer Wagner -> is she on Mac of PC :)
vincej -> pc
Jennifer Wagner -> yep -- a reboot
JL -> sorry, not much of an itunes user
Jennifer Wagner -> itunes NEVER worked for me either
CheriT -> Hi Vicki, ready for the online conference?
JL -> you could try windows media player from MSIE
vincej -> winamp also works
Bee (Brazil) -> downloaded listen.pls
Vicki Davis -> Which one -- ha ha!
Bee (Brazil) -> one itunes
Vicki Davis -> Have to get past Student summits, horizon projects, etc.
CheriT -> ha, ha, really! the George one
Vicki Davis -> But I will be ready!
Bee (Brazil) -> cannot hear
Vicki Davis -> We will keep trying to help you!
CheriT -> me, too - I have a new semester starting Monday
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee --- can you double check that all is plugged in okay
Vicki Davis -> I usually have to click on the black speaker.
Bee (Brazil) -> I'm on a new computer
Jennifer Wagner -> and can you try listening to perhaps some other sounds -- control panel sounds -- just
Jennifer Wagner -> to make sure you have sound
Bee (Brazil) -> my son´s
JL -> Question for Stephen: Which 'venue' are you planning on using during the Webhead Convergence? Alado, Elluminate, Worldbridges?
Bee (Brazil) -> :-(
Janice S. -> iTunes works for me but I'm on a mac
Stephen Downes -> worldbridges
Bee (Brazil) -> need to configure this one for WiAOC
JL -> roger that, thanks.
Jennifer Wagner -> LOL -- JL -- we haven't even introduced him yet
Bee (Brazil) -> presenting on Zoho show and skypecast
JL -> just warming him up
cheryloakes wow -> www.storylineonline.net
CheriT -> iTunes works for me on a PC
cheryloakes wow -> A great online story site with activities. Stories read by celebrities.
Durff -> Sound?
Janice S. -> It's one of my favorite
Bee (Brazil) -> Yesss!!! can hear :-)
Stephen Downes -> yay
Durff -> where?
Bee (Brazil) -> wonderful
cheryloakes wow -> YEAH, thanks for all the help folks for Bee.
Bee (Brazil) -> Hi Durff...met you on Twitter
Jennifer Wagner -> http://irweb.ucf.edu/elwoodsadventures/page.html
Vicki Davis -> Social Networking video is here - http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/Social+Networking
Durff -> hi bee
Jennifer Wagner -> http://irweb.ucf.edu/elwoodsadventures/page.html
Bee (Brazil) -> who are you BTW :-), lol?
sharonp -> Vicki, loved the video!
Vicki Davis -> Mobile phones - http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/Mobile+Phones
cheryloakes wow -> hi Durff, hi sue
Vicki Davis -> Thanks Sharon.
Durff -> ahhh - sound
Vicki Davis -> I have so many to see!
Vicki Davis -> Each one gets me so excited!
Durff -> hi cheryl
sharonp -> it was so well done!
Vicki Davis -> I think the videos are great PD for all teachers.
cheryloakes wow -> vicki, that is just great
Bee (Brazil) -> Flat Stanley? this is iEarn?
Vicki Davis -> http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/Virtual+Worlds - Virtual Worlds
sharonp -> https://flatplanet.wikispaces.com/About
Durff -> the horizon project is awesome
Vicki Davis -> Oh, I'm a flat planet judge as well-- fitting it in!
Vicki Davis -> Durff - you've done a great job with helping it.
Durff -> not me
vincej -> w=great rpoject vicki'
Durff -> i spell wrong
Jennifer Wagner -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/May
vincej -> me
sharonp -> http://xkcd.com/c.html
Steve -> Can't stay on (crying baby to take care of) but have a great show! very much looking forward to listening to it later!
Vicki Davis -> Bye Steve!
cheryloakes wow -> steve, glad you got here for a bit
JL -> WiAOC : Hello, just wanted to let you know that most folks are in the EdTechTalk room - you can get there by double clicing on it.
Vicki Davis -> We're muting our crying babies!
cheryloakes wow -> the podcast will be up thursday
Durff -> bye steve
Durff -> again
Jennifer Wagner -> Remember sec delay
Jennifer Wagner -> and start posting your ??? now
sroseman -> WiAOC : loved your video, Vicki
Durff -> i say that well
Vicki Davis -> Great group in chat!
CheriT -> No more Tuesday night classes :-)
Durff -> how many in chat?
Vicki Davis -> Hello, Larry! I'm so gladyou made it!
Jennifer Wagner -> Cheri -- classes over for a while??
cheryloakes wow -> but cheri it looks like class with you and larry, anyone else I missed
Jennifer Wagner -> looks like Lisa
Durff -> WOW!
Larry.Carlton -> Hi Vicki
ElenaW -> Hello. Nice group since we are all busy wrapping up the year. Does this continue over summer?
Jennifer Wagner -> yup
CheriT -> I start up again next week - distance learning and assessing online teaching and learning
Jennifer Wagner -> Yes Elena
Jennifer Wagner -> we will have a COUPLE of taped shows
Jennifer Wagner -> but pretty much we are totally booked for summer
ElenaW -> Good. My pace slows down a beat or two.
Jennifer Wagner -> Cheri -- cool
Jennifer Wagner -> was your final REALLY our class??
Larry.Carlton -> Vicki - next week I start another class on Tuesdays for six weeks.
cheryloakes wow -> hi simon
Simon -> Good evening
CheriT -> Yes it was :-) I really wanted to keep them connected with WOW
Jennifer Wagner -> excellent
cheryloakes wow -> hi mmiller
CheriT -> They all got A's
Jennifer Wagner -> in chat
mmiller -> Hello from MO
Vicki Davis -> Hello!
Vicki Davis -> Welcome mmiller
Bee (Brazil) -> code is poetry :-)
Larry.Carlton -> The final was the best
sroseman -> WiAOC : NRC ..here in Ottawa
Jennifer Wagner -> if you want to change the color of your chat
Jennifer Wagner -> the first button on the toolbar
Jennifer Wagner -> is your color option
Jennifer Wagner -> if you want to detach your chat
Vicki Davis -> Great description of how you started, Stephen.
Jennifer Wagner -> to read it better
Jennifer Wagner -> the rd icon from the right
Jennifer Wagner -> is that choice
mmiller -> testing a new color
Vicki Davis -> [b]Testing bold!
ElenaW -> Thanks for the tips on the chat.
Janice S. -> Thanks for the tips
vincej -> testing blue
cheryloakes wow -> there are , , users on skype right now. cool
Jennifer Wagner -> LOL
Jennifer Wagner -> its about time
mmiller -> :D
Jennifer Wagner -> we have only had our chat for weeks
Jennifer Wagner -> so its abouttime for me to give the special tools
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
Jennifer Wagner -> hmmm -- longer than weeks
cheryloakes wow -> special tool tips! STT
Vicki Davis -> I want to know what the music button is?
cheryloakes wow -> Thisis show # .
Jennifer Wagner -> please don't use the MUSIC button
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
Vicki Davis -> WHAT IS IT!?!
Jennifer Wagner -> you can add sound
Vicki Davis -> It is like telling a kid "don't touch that!"
Jennifer Wagner -> sounds
Vicki Davis -> Oh!
CheriT -> aw, why not :/
cheryloakes wow -> save it for the post show
Jennifer Wagner -> but everyone has to have the sounds on their computers to hear them
Vicki Davis -> I'm muted. I can be naughty! --
Vicki Davis -> Oh.
Jennifer Wagner -> yes, we will use the sounds in Post Chat
Vicki Davis -> k
CheriT -> :)
Bee (Brazil) -> "u-learning"?
Jennifer Wagner -> AOL used to use them in chats
JL -> Webcast Academy: *meow*
Jennifer Wagner -> we would all share sounds
Jennifer Wagner -> and then --
Jennifer Wagner -> well, chats became more "Musical"
CheriT -> How can we motivate the most irrelevant teachers?
mmiller -> Just peak their curiosity
Larry.Carlton -> Put them in all day study halls
CheriT -> Larry ...
patruffing -> I have a few in my school that wouldn't change if I tapped danced on their desk!
ElenaW -> irrelevant? Is that like dead beats?
Vicki Davis -> Send them to a session to learn from other irrelevant teachers and at the end of the day when they are complaining -- point out that they've just seen themselves.
Vicki Davis -> Teachers are tough to train.
CheriT -> Their style of teaching is irrelevant to reality
Bee (Brazil) -> kids are educated despite us
cheryloakes wow -> good one vicki
vincej -> rule..spend tiem withthe that will change
Bee (Brazil) -> we take ourselves too seriously
CheriT -> very behavioral -
cheryloakes wow -> bee that is my mantra
Vicki Davis -> They are so tough to teach but it is a double standard -- don't bore me but I can bore them all day long.
Vicki Davis -> Right vince!
Vicki Davis -> Focus on those who want to change.
CheriT -> - I think my faculty is reversed ... only want to learn
CheriT -> I'm thinking of focusing on the students and bypassing the instructors
Vicki Davis -> Most don't want to learn but it is a mindset that good administrators can model.
Vicki Davis -> That makes others WANT to learn.
ElenaW -> No, no. Old dogs can learn...
cheryloakes wow -> sometimes that is the way to do it Cheri
Jennifer Wagner -> START with ONE piece --
vincej -> then focus on the ..
Jennifer Wagner -> don't overwhelm them
Vicki Davis -> I think that learning is an attitude not an age.
patruffing -> administrator modeling...VERY important
mmiller -> You have to model risk taking and encourage risk taking
Bee (Brazil) -> if you have a close social community in real life
Bee (Brazil) -> you do not need online
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat -- and administrator expectations
ElenaW -> Honestly, we do wait until some retire. Sad but true.
patruffing -> absolutely!
Vicki Davis -> You do so that you can connect with other people who teach your sujbect.
Bee (Brazil) -> online opens doors and horizons
Vicki Davis -> Oh, horizons! ;-)
ElenaW -> I have been known to co-teach with the very late adopters.
Larry.Carlton -> Administrator's modeling is very important
cheryloakes wow -> great idea Elena
Vicki Davis -> Yes, Larry -- I would say essential.
Jennifer Wagner -> and never never never give up
cheryloakes wow -> Larry you are a great model and inspiration.
mmiller -> Larry, how do you model for your teachers?
patruffing -> I am going to be doing more team teaching next year...
alicebarr -> Yes I think co-teaching and modeling are very impotyant!
Bee (Brazil) -> I do not think age has sthg to do with it
Vicki Davis -> Yes! Shut it down is like saying -- be quiet and don't disagree with me!
Bee (Brazil) -> I am retiring
ElenaW -> Modeling, and doing much of the time consuming part of tech.
vincej -> admin support is key but does not reach all teachers...
Bee (Brazil) -> after years of teaching
Jennifer Wagner -> and remember ONE tool does NOT fit all
patruffing -> I am over the hill but i am the tech geek at school
Bee (Brazil) -> but very keen on being online
Jennifer Wagner -> you wil have somethat will NEVER blog
cheryloakes wow -> Bee you are still a youngster!
Jennifer Wagner -> and that is OK
Bee (Brazil) -> I never grew up...this is what my mother says
Bee (Brazil) -> must go and have my head examined
Larry.Carlton -> Mike, I take the risk and try new technologies.
ElenaW -> Some experienced teachers have a problem with learning tech from a th grader.
Durff -> something wrong with your head?
Jennifer Wagner -> LOL --
Durff -> I meant NBee
Bee (Brazil) -> my head?
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee -- you are going to fit in just GREAT here
Durff -> yeah
Jennifer Wagner -> I refuse to grow up
Jennifer Wagner -> however, my body keeps getting older :)
Bee (Brazil) -> nothing that I notice...this is what my mum says :-)
Durff -> you said you needed your head examined
Vicki Davis -> Filters have no brain just keywords.
vincej -> do we filter print the same way we filter online sites?
alicebarr -> It's about helping kids make the right choices on the internet
Larry.Carlton -> Hi Dea
Jennifer Wagner -> in chat room
Jennifer Wagner -> OK -- time for everyone to change colors
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
alicebarr -> like public policy Vicki
Bee (Brazil) -> I was talking about rebels...and sex pistols was blocked :-(
cheryloakes wow -> the only thing I think filtered in our middle school library is the sports illustrated swim suit issue
patruffing -> yes...i am thankful that i control the filter at school
Jennifer Wagner -> going green
Durff -> well, it works, anyway
Jennifer Wagner -> I control our Filter now
Jennifer Wagner -> it is amazing the sites that are suddenly open
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
Vicki Davis -> Right alice -- the greatest filter invented is the human brain.
ElenaW -> Cheryl, My principal has been removing SI swin from my mailbox since .
Vicki Davis -> It makes a difference doesn't it Pat?
vincej -> way to go Jen
Durff -> Karl Fisch - invent the future
patruffing -> absolutely
cheryloakes wow -> oh well elena. not surprising
patruffing -> i am glad i am trusted to do it
Jennifer Wagner -> Elena -- LOL -- is he keeping the copies??
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat -- I agree
Jennifer Wagner -> it is a great responsiblity
patruffing -> of course, my principal wouldn't have a clue about it anyway
ElenaW -> They may be worth something now- an archive!:D
Jennifer Wagner -> and it is great fun
Jennifer Wagner -> what -- software do you use
Larry.Carlton -> Educate your principal
Bee (Brazil) -> LMS, technology depts and asynchronous learning form a triumvirate
Vicki Davis -> Oops!
mmiller -> Principals love it when teachers are excited about something
Durff -> Is JenW addicted to SL?
Jennifer Wagner -> JenW is NOT addicted
Vicki Davis -> ha ha Durff!
Jennifer Wagner -> just VERY involved
Vicki Davis -> Jen is addicted!
Jennifer Wagner -> I have an apartment
Durff -> I have to come visit you!
cheryloakes wow -> hello chris
patruffing -> SL...i have no clothes...and i can't seem to figure out how to get them!
Vicki Davis -> That is so funny for many private reasons ;-)
Jennifer Wagner -> if I get a cat -- we are in trouble
CheriT -> she's not, she's not, she's not, she's not, she's not
Janice S. -> I visited your apartment too
Janice S. -> very nice
Vicki Davis -> I thought you had a cat, Jen.
Jennifer Wagner -> I still feel it is NOT safe for kids
Jennifer Wagner -> but I am having fun
Jennifer Wagner -> Vicki -- in SL
Jennifer Wagner -> if I get a cat
Vicki Davis -> Oh, you should hear the virtual worlds group talk about SL.
Jennifer Wagner -> I am a goner
Vicki Davis -> Oh, SL not RL.
CheriT -> can you have a cat in SL, Jen?
Jennifer Wagner -> Thanks Janice--
alicebarr -> I agree Jen
Vicki Davis -> Well, how about I get a cat avatar and be your cat!
Jennifer Wagner -> Yes, I have a goldfish
Vicki Davis -> I am cool cat whitman in there.
Jennifer Wagner -> that really swims
Bee (Brazil) -> a cat gave me absynth to drink in SL
alicebarr -> I don't think SL is ready for kids
CheriT -> cool
Jennifer Wagner -> Alcie I agree
Bee (Brazil) -> and I saw green fairies dancing before me
patruffing -> i agree too alice
Jennifer Wagner -> sometimes I am not ready for SL
Vicki Davis -> Let me get the elluminate session that my students presented. They had a frank discussion about the SL grid for Teens AND Xbox live environments.
patruffing -> all i want is some clothes!
ElenaW -> Do you just spend hours and hours in SL? I'm affraid to start- nothing else may get done!
Jennifer Wagner -> I got involved in a class with a Hitman
alicebarr -> In fact I see it as a bit of jumping on the band wagon right now
Jennifer Wagner -> Elena -- I have a timer
Jennifer Wagner -> the hitman closed the class on SL
Vicki Davis -> https://sas.elluminate.com/p.jnlp?psid=--..M.ADFFCEAAFBCAEB.vcr - Recording today.
Jennifer Wagner -> it was spooky
ElenaW -> Great idea. I will do that also.
Durff -> SL is fun
Jennifer Wagner -> I am enjoying SL -- but shhhh don't tell
Vicki Davis -> Teens don't have much educational content.
Bee (Brazil) -> SL is pretty lonely
alicebarr -> I think intitally SL is addictive becasue youa re learning how to use it
Bee (Brazil) -> when you do not know people
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee -- I have had some great conversations
alicebarr -> But after awhile it's not so addicting
ElenaW -> That's good to know.
Vicki Davis -> I think that the most exciting thing is interacting with others online in SL.
Jennifer Wagner -> and made some new friendships
Vicki Davis -> I like to go in when I have a purpose or reason.
Bee (Brazil) -> I love playing dolls in SL
patruffing -> regarding wikis...i have just started this year and it is closed to all but the class group...just to start out, but next year i want to open it up
Jennifer Wagner -> I like to do the FUN stuff Bree
CheriT -> Like Sony - who's requiring blogging by their employees ... or they work somewhere else
Vicki Davis -> I like hanging out with Beth and going to the ISTE island.
Jennifer Wagner -> I have ridden a train
Jennifer Wagner -> I love swingsets
Vicki Davis -> Right Dr. T.
Bee (Brazil) -> I go to Venice
Bee (Brazil) -> and ride the gondola
alicebarr -> Yes the SL interaction is very powerful and there are some incredible places to visit
Vicki Davis -> I think if parents want to be shocked, they should go into Xbox live.
Jennifer Wagner -> I have not done that
Bee (Brazil) -> dance on the piazza
CheriT -> Cheri, please, the Dr. is for other places :-)
Durff -> baby steps
Vicki Davis -> My eyes were opened - one of my students was the head of a Clan that was the halo champ of the world for a while.
Bee (Brazil) -> surf the waves and lizard on deserted islands
Vicki Davis -> He talked about year olds playing in areas with grown men who use terrible language.
alicebarr -> Oh me too Vicki: Some students are doing amamzing stuff in WOW
Vicki Davis -> He said there was no way that parents know what is going on in there -- that is what we should be upset about.
Bee (Brazil) -> participate in campfires
Bee (Brazil) -> sing
patruffing -> what is the recommended blog site for elementary school
Bee (Brazil) -> fun..it can be lots of fun
cheryloakes wow -> I like classblogmeister and think.com for elementary
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat -- you mean like blogmiester
CheriT -> once again we're teaching avoidance rather than decision-making
Bee (Brazil) -> but then you do not need SL to have fun?ß
Jennifer Wagner -> or edublogs
Durff -> Interesting what he said, Vicki
patruffing -> yes, i have a blogmeister acct...i did not like think.com
Jennifer Wagner -> HOWEVER, my # choice is Wordpress
Vicki Davis -> It was.
Jennifer Wagner -> on your own SERVER
Jennifer Wagner -> or website
Bee (Brazil) -> absolutely Stephen
Bee (Brazil) -> especially in Brazil
patruffing -> can't do it on my own server
Jennifer Wagner -> Yes, Bee -- SL is not necessary in Life :)
Jennifer Wagner -> pat --
Jennifer Wagner -> do you have a website??
patruffing -> yes
patruffing -> changing provider tho
Bee (Brazil) -> the more you are exposed
Jennifer Wagner -> you can host wordpress on yoour own website
Jennifer Wagner -> I do
patruffing -> website not hosted at school
Bee (Brazil) -> the more you get vaccined
Jennifer Wagner -> hmmm -
Jennifer Wagner -> does it have to be??
patruffing -> i read yours, jen
Bee (Brazil) -> brng the discussion to the class
Jennifer Wagner -> can't you just add another page off your site
Bee (Brazil) -> hi quentin
CheriT -> Jen, I'm going to turn an old laptop into a server and try out a bunch of stuff - ubuntu, wordpress, moodle, etc.
qdsouza -> Hi Bee
Jennifer Wagner -> OHH -- Cheri -- how fun
patruffing -> i will have to think about it..
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat --
Bee (Brazil) -> need to talk to you offchat :-)
Jennifer Wagner -> I can set you up with wordpress
CheriT -> I may be calling you!
Jennifer Wagner -> at one of my sites -- if you want to try it out
patruffing -> i would welcome any help
Jennifer Wagner -> Please do
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat -- you have my email???
alicebarr -> JEN HAVE YOU SET UP A MUKTIUSER WORDPRESS SERVER?
patruffing -> on your site...somewhere...i have done the online projects
alicebarr -> Whoops sorry for yelling?
Jennifer Wagner -> Alice -- nope
Jennifer Wagner -> I know that you can though
Jennifer Wagner -> Pat -- we can make this work
cheryloakes wow -> edubuntu can boot from a cd on the macbooks it is very cool
alicebarr -> WE are having a devil of a time
Bee (Brazil) -> WB quentin
patruffing -> i will be in touch...thanks
Jennifer Wagner -> no worries :)
CheriT -> right, cheryl - edubuntu also
Bee (Brazil) -> has anyone tried drupal edu?
alicebarr -> And I am looking for someone to help with set up so we have a similar set up to edublogs
patruffing -> i set up a xanga and myspace just to see what it was like
CheriT -> duh, I thought you said ubuntu, not edubuntu ... Reading A
ElenaW -> What are xanga and ubuntu? Sounds like a foreign language.
Bee (Brazil) -> xanga is a blogging platform
Jennifer Wagner -> Alice -- are you in the EdTech NEWSGROUP -- not related to EdTechTalk??
Jennifer Wagner -> I am sure you can get help there
Bee (Brazil) -> ubuntu is a system
Bee (Brazil) -> on linux
alicebarr -> I don't know what you mean Jen
Jennifer Wagner -> http://www.h-net.org/~edweb/
ElenaW -> Thanks Bee
Jennifer Wagner -> check out this newsgroup
Jennifer Wagner -> http://www.h-net.org/~edweb/
Jennifer Wagner -> it is great
alicebarr -> No i'm not, I'll check it out thanks
qdsouza -> finally got the audio going :-)
Jennifer Wagner -> great -- it is a very "old" group
Durff -> hi quentin
Jennifer Wagner -> I have belonged to it for about years now
Jennifer Wagner -> LOTS of good help
cheryloakes wow -> qdsouza glad you stuck with it,
Jennifer Wagner -> you can post your need -- and they will help you with it
Jennifer Wagner -> so they canhelp with the MutliUser Blog
patruffing -> what was the old group jen, i clicked away by mistake
alicebarr -> Oh thank you SO much!
Jennifer Wagner -> http://www.h-net.org/~edweb/
patruffing -> ok...thanks jen
qdsouza -> (big smiles)
Bee (Brazil) -> how do you paste a link here?
cheryloakes wow -> by thursday this webcast will be a podcast, the chat will be posted and the wiki lives on so you can catch up with all the great stuff. www.edtechtalk.com/womenofweb
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee - you can copy paste
Bee (Brazil) -> does not work
Jennifer Wagner -> if you are on a MAC???? -- there is another way
qdsouza -> hi durff - a little delayed tonight
Jennifer Wagner -> are you on a MAC??
Durff -> what would the salient features of a PLE be?
Bee (Brazil) -> no..on windows
Jennifer Wagner -> hmmm
Jennifer Wagner -> can you right mouse click
Jennifer Wagner -> or CONTROL C
Bee (Brazil) -> bizarre..hum
Jennifer Wagner -> and CONTROL V
Bee (Brazil) -> no...CTRL V does not work either
Bee (Brazil) -> nor the right click
patruffing -> i have learned SO much in the past year by being part of online learning communities and reading blogs...and following recommended links....much more so than "taking a course"
mmiller -> I absolutely agree patruffing
CheriT -> Pat - me too ... and it's changed the courses I teach
patruffing -> yes...i am a "new" teacher after all these years
ElenaW -> Pat you are so correct. More practical than another advanced degree.
Larry.Carlton -> patruffing- good for you
mmiller -> I have learned more in months with "free" PD online through blogs, podcasts, and this show that I have learned in a long time and I am even taking night classes as well
Durff -> and how would any PLE be different than what any of us has created for ourselves right now?
cheryloakes wow -> i agree mmiller, so true.
mmiller -> Please don't count off for spelling
alicebarr -> Great Patruffing!
patruffing -> over years!!!:D
cheryloakes wow -> no grading for spling
mmiller -> :p
ElenaW -> Exsellent!
Bee (Brazil) -> wonder what the pb is ...why can´t I paste it here in the chat?
Durff -> each individual
cheryloakes wow -> hi monica, welcome
Monica -> Hi, thanks!
Durff -> 's PLE is exactly that - individual
Durff -> not commercial
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee needs help with COPY PASTE
Jennifer Wagner -> anyone have ideas??
Jennifer Wagner -> Bee -- are you detached (the chat)
Durff -> try a Word doc
Jennifer Wagner -> rd button on the right
Bee (Brazil) -> no
Jennifer Wagner -> and then try again
Bee (Brazil) -> rd button?
Jennifer Wagner -> from the right
cheryloakes wow -> hi kathy
Jennifer Wagner -> looks like pieces of paper
Bee (Brazil) -> nothing
sendkathy -> Hi
Durff -> hi kathy
sendkathy -> Hi
sendkathy -> Hi
Bee (Brazil) -> detached but cannot paste
sendkathy -> I can't get the stream for some reason
Bee (Brazil) -> let me see if I can paste on Word
alicebarr -> Unfortunately many view it as the magic bullet and will solve classroom issues
Durff -> the brain is a jungle - yes Stephen!
Bee (Brazil) -> works on word
Bee (Brazil) -> not here
ElenaW -> Plus our students get really good at keying in information,
Durff -> drag the link, bee
patruffing -> whatever tools will "engage" the learner and get them excited to learn more...different strokes for different folks
Durff -> from word to the chat room where we type
CheriT -> thank you, Stephen, for admitting that
Durff -> yes pat
Bee (Brazil) -> does not work...hmmm
Bee (Brazil) -> is your chat light yellow?
cheryloakes wow -> hey brian! you made it
Durff -> hi brian
Durff -> how is celest?
Brian Crosby -> Hi
sharonp -> http://halfanhour.blogspot.com///to-school-or-classroom--advocates.html
Brian Crosby -> Celest is great. Has been in class yesterday and today - looks good.
Durff -> excellent!
ElenaW -> Have you seen http://www.rider.edu/~suler/psycyber/disinhibit.html
Larry.Carlton -> Sharon thanks for the halfanhour link
Durff -> my kids will be excited!
ElenaW -> The disinhibition effect.
Jennifer Wagner -> Hey Brian Crosby -- what are you doing NEXT WEEK at this time????
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
Durff -> people think they are anonymous
ElenaW -> Surprise, surprise
Brian Crosby -> I'm supposed to be doing this aren't I???
sharonp -> it is a great post -
Jennifer Wagner -> YUP
Durff -> and why would she ask that, she wondered out loud....
Jennifer Wagner -> Brian Crosby -- here next week
CheriT -> you scared him away
Jennifer Wagner -> oops
Jennifer Wagner -> nah -- he will be back
Bee (Brazil) -> absolutely Stephen
CheriT -> lol
qdsouza -> I'm sorry I was late and you might have covered this - how do tools like Scratch from MIT (http://scratch.mit.edu/about) (age +) and the ability to share applications that students create become part of a PLE
Jennifer Wagner -> please come back, Brian :)
vincej -> great point stephen
Jennifer Wagner -> welcome back BRIAN _- our guest NEXT WEEK
alicebarr -> But the teaching has to change!!!
Bee (Brazil) -> the relationship in the classroom must change
Brian Crosby -> Skype contacted me today. They are trying to get us on the Today show.
Bee (Brazil) -> differences must be respected
patruffing -> wow
Jennifer Wagner -> TRULY
Jennifer Wagner -> WOWOWOWOW
CheriT -> wow
cheryloakes wow -> that is great
Monica -> good point, stephen.
alicebarr -> Great Brian!
alicebarr -> Exciting for your kids
Jennifer Wagner -> I hope it works out BRIAN
vincej -> wikis and blogs are levelers..equal voice in the class..right on
patruffing -> i agree vince
CheriT -> it really removes many of the barriers that students face in the ff classroom
cheryloakes wow -> i agree vincej, it really allows for all to have a voice
Brian Crosby -> My th graders are working on making over wiki pages about the animal we are studying.
Jennifer Wagner -> which is??
cheryloakes wow -> that is great brian, do you have the url?
Brian Crosby -> Whoops AnimalsSSSS
Larry.Carlton -> Brian - Could you post your wiki
Jennifer Wagner -> One animal -- or several
mmiller -> Have to go. I'll be back next week and look forward to hearing from Brian. Hope the Today show works out for him but he still comes back after he is famous!
vincej -> remember asking each student read out loud
cheryloakes wow -> bye mmiller
Bee (Brazil) -> have to go...getting late here...it was wonderful to be here with you and hope to meet you at the Webheads Convergence this weekend
Larry.Carlton -> Brian - I'd like to show your wiki to my / grade teachers
patruffing -> yup...got a lot of those who need extrinsic motivation
Bee (Brazil) -> ciaonow
Jennifer Wagner -> Hi Bee -- thanks for sharing our night
Durff -> teacher workshops are set up that way too and so is church - very industrial agish
Monica -> It seems that something *has* to motivate students.
cheryloakes wow -> bye bee, see you soon.
Brian Crosby -> http://crosbyprojects.wikispaces.com/Animal+Ark - is in early stages
Monica -> everyone seems to have a button somewhere, just finding it can be very challenging.
Larry.Carlton -> Brian thank you
sharonp -> Simon, have been busy with conversation but want you to know that FlatPlanet was one of my WOWS b you joined us
ElenaW -> Thanks Brian. That is a good example.
Durff -> yes!
Durff -> People are motivated to do sth
Durff -> just not always what we want
Durff -> but what skills are being honed in Runescape?
cheryloakes wow -> It took my times to learn to cut the fire wood.
Durff -> Ahh, democracy at work?
vincej -> stephen.. students learn all the time..we need to get the teachers learning
cheryloakes wow -> I learned to follow directions, then create my own path.
patruffing -> but how to we answer for the dreaded "test scores" they are not being tested on cutting firewood
Durff -> I can't follow directions
cheryloakes wow -> vince, yes, teachers need to be part of the discussion and conversation with kids.
alicebarr -> Which is a big change from the one way student teacher relationship
sendkathy -> I think kids expect to interact and participate
sendkathy -> The lose interest if they can't
Durff -> the "test scores" need to evaporate
patruffing -> i agree...but will it happen soon?
Durff -> immigrants vs. natives
ElenaW -> Or be made into the gaming format
vincej -> i agree aas well.
Durff -> nope
alicebarr -> Theya re almost afraid of technology MEDUSA
Durff -> but we can teach ethics
alicebarr -> Parents should learn witht he kids
Durff -> yup
cheryloakes wow -> a big yes to all who say parents and teachers need to learn with the students.
Durff -> you think?
Janice S. -> They are cool
CheriT -> wii - wheeeeee
alicebarr -> Interacting with machine
alicebarr -> SO Cool!
Durff -> I think it will be another game
Durff -> a better beta version type thing
alicebarr -> But more things will come out think SL meets Wii
CheriT -> that's funny lol
cheryloakes wow -> absolutely alice
CheriT -> ice and elevate
Durff -> or does it go beyond?
CheriT -> yea!
CheriT -> that's amazing
Larry.Carlton -> fantastic
patruffing -> well that does it...i am getting into wii if i can lose weight
Brian Crosby -> HMMM maybe wii is the answer to the lack of PE in elementary school? The Obesity issue???
patruffing -> hah
patruffing -> or maybe yes!
cheryloakes wow -> good idea brian,
CheriT -> As a former PE/coach, I think you're right, Brian
ElenaW -> Dance, dance revolution is at my school
Janice S. -> I was thinking that too, Brian. What a great way to get kids to exercise
CheriT -> anything that gets them mvoing
alicebarr -> That would be a good way to get technology into school Brian!
cheryloakes wow -> hi cathyn
cathyn_SC -> greetings from SC
cheryloakes wow -> welcome, glad you are here.
CheriT -> whoa, i don't want to think when I play
cheryloakes wow -> we are nearing the end of the show, you can hear the podcast by thurs. when I have it posted at www.edtechtalk.com
Durff -> cats again
cathyn_SC -> i know
cheryloakes wow -> great
cathyn_SC -> i'll get the recap there
cheryloakes wow -> there is still a bit to come
cathyn_SC -> sorry so late
CheriT -> lol
cheryloakes wow -> no problem, time is not a factor, I listen to the podcast at least more times after hte show
Durff -> Norman is a good name. I had one named Number One
ElenaW -> Cheryl, Thanks for all you do to keep us connected to other techie teachers. Good night.
cheryloakes wow -> you are welcome, bye for now elena
CheriT -> Mine was Miss Kitty
cathyn_SC -> My cats are Alaska and Bently
Durff -> night elena
cathyn_SC -> both adopted from Humane society
patruffing -> cats...sorry....aaaachoooo!
sroseman -> WiAOC : Is there chat anywhere else..sems quiet here
sroseman -> WiAOC : seems
alicebarr -> Cheri T mine was Don Gato, Mr. Cat
Monica -> yeah, humane society!
cathyn_SC -> i have pix on my desk
Durff -> Bently sounds intelligent
sendkathy -> So Lisa, are we doing Friday or Saturday? I'm so confused.
cathyn_SC -> oh he is
cathyn_SC -> alaska is prissy
CheriT -> alice - sir cat is a great name
Durff -> I thought Jeff said Friday
sendkathy -> The schedule says Saturday
alicebarr -> Lived for years!
sharonp -> okay, our cat is "Kitty" - we are so original with our names
Durff -> Now I'm confused
sendkathy -> but maybe it really means Friday
Monica -> years for a cat?
cathyn_SC -> Alaska is
Monica -> wow
alicebarr -> Yes and lived on continents!
Brian Crosby -> So I came in late - sorry if this was covered already - how does Steven see getting schools (and the public and the decision makers ton finally decide changes need to happen in education???
Durff -> is it GMT time?
cheryloakes wow -> brian crosby next week, learningismessy
cathyn_SC -> luv LIM
Jennifer Wagner -> we are going into POSTSHOW
Jennifer Wagner -> we shall ask Brian
CheriT -> that is so true - it's all personal
CheriT -> if not personal, then really meaningless
Brian Crosby -> Great!
Jennifer Wagner -> I agree CheriT
Durff -> Kathy, I'll look at it after WOW
Brian Crosby -> Yes! Yes! Yes!!!
Durff -> Thank you Jeff!
CheriT -> does anyone know when the next webcast academy class begins?
Jennifer Wagner -> my cat's webpage -- http://www.technospud.com/mac.htm
Durff -> no Cheri
CheriT -> thanks, Durff
Durff -> don't know
cathyn_SC -> Jennifer W he looks like an oreo
cathyn_SC -> Bently is white with an orange tabby cape
patruffing -> maybe that's how jen thought of her oreo project
cheryloakes wow -> Cheri, there has been discussion about the next webcast academy, but no decision as of yet
Brian Crosby -> I'll explain that to my admin people!!!lol
CheriT -> thanks, cheryl
cathyn_SC -> hey folks--gotta go Can't wait to hear the whole show from my ipod
cheryloakes wow -> it iwll beup thur, cathyn
cathyn_SC -> its : now-night
Jennifer Wagner -> Night CathyN
cheryloakes wow -> night to some
Brian Crosby -> Yes and you bypass all the school district stuff ny hosting your school site outside the district server!!!
Durff -> can that be done?
cheryloakes wow -> good plan brian
CheriT -> I'll try that after I'm tenured :-)
Brian Crosby -> My district blocks the Skype web site but not Skype!
cheryloakes wow -> good plan get tenure first
Durff -> so how do I set up a computer as a server?
Jennifer Wagner -> Brian -- that is TOO funny
Brian Crosby -> I use Siteground $ per YEAR for a web site.
CheriT -> It drives me crazy - why aren't there new things going on?
alicebarr -> Right on Stephen. I am trying to figure out how to have a different kind of classroom in SL
patruffing -> are site is off-site too...we are just a little school
Brian Crosby -> My school district doesn't ban outside served school sites.
sendkathy -> mine bans all internet radio
sendkathy -> unless I request a specific site
alicebarr -> I am stunned by how many places are set up just like RL
Durff -> so what about podcsts?
sendkathy -> yes, I have to give podcast URLs to unblock them
Durff -> anf vidcasts?
sendkathy -> same
Durff -> and youube?
sendkathy -> not blocked!
Brian Crosby -> Gotta go! Bye till next week!
Durff -> oh, I can't type
cheryloakes wow -> bye brian, see you next week
Durff -> bye brian
alicebarr -> I will say SL has some great collaborative events
sendkathy -> night all
sendkathy -> cya next week
Durff -> night kathy
cheryloakes wow -> night kathy, see you soon
Durff -> til FRIDAY night
Durff -> I will too!
alicebarr -> AS do I next door to Jen
alicebarr -> Yes Jen! You are right
Jennifer Wagner -> yup
Jennifer Wagner -> LOL
cheryloakes wow -> aliceb is my apartment mate in SL, actually LillyoftheSea Starr is my apartment mate, I am Blizzard Oate
cheryloakes wow -> Oates
alicebarr -> LOVE Club Penguin! But doesn't hold interest for very long. There's an article at NPR
cheryloakes wow -> i like webkins more than club penguin right now.
Durff -> How did you get that name, Cheryl?
alicebarr -> There are many jobs already started in SL so you're not far off
Jennifer Wagner -> that is my next conquest
Jennifer Wagner -> Webkins
Jennifer Wagner -> I did make in SL
Jennifer Wagner -> someone bought my bookshelf
cheryloakes wow -> ready to sign off, see you all later.
alicebarr -> Thanks all!
patruffing -> thank you all !
CheriT -> bye all - thanks for a great evening
Durff -> \oh!:!! Yeah, good night all!
Jennifer Wagner -> off to SL
Jennifer Wagner -> stop by to say HI
Jennifer Wagner -> :)
Stephen Downes -> Bye everyone
Jennifer Wagner -> thanks Stephen
Janice S. -> Great conversation. Thank you!
cheryloakes wow -> later,
Stephen Downes -> Thanks, it was a lot of fun
Jennifer Wagner -> Janice -- I will see you NEXT week??
Jennifer Wagner -> in Santa Monica??
Janice S. -> Yes, I'm so excited!
Jennifer Wagner -> cool
Janice S. -> See you next week
Jennifer Wagner -> I am driving down AFTER this show
Jennifer Wagner -> next week
Janice S. -> by Jen. See you then.
Jennifer Wagner -> I think they are going to
Jennifer Wagner -> be surprised at how
Jennifer Wagner -> many of us know each other
Jennifer Wagner -> NIGHT everyone
Janice S. -> bye
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