Wow 2.0 Show #34 Post NECC07 show
This week Sharon and Jen hold down the fort! The conversations are all about Post NECC. The raw audio will be along shortly. In the meantime, Derek Miller's Meltdown Man will sit in the audio holder.
20:06:17 sharonp : yippee! was cooking with the stream
20:06:20 sharonp : all is well
20:06:28 sharonp : we should be able to record teh show live tonight
20:09:58 mizmercer : Hello
20:10:01 mizmercer : where are we?
20:42:00 JenniferW : hello
20:52:37 JenniferW : Hi Lisa
20:53:43 JenniferW : Hello Diane
20:53:53 Diane Hammond : Hi Jenifer!
20:54:00 JenniferW : how are you???
20:54:19 Diane Hammond : Great! Almost recovered from NECC :-)
20:54:27 JenniferW : wish I was -- I am still exhausted
20:54:40 JenniferW : not quite sure why
20:55:10 Diane Hammond : That's because i only went for the weekend! I'll train for next year :)
20:55:46 JenniferW : hmmm you found the revolving door I see
20:55:52 Diane Hammond : do we have sound yet?
20:55:57 JenniferW : nope
20:56:16 Diane Hammond : OK, i got kicked out looking for it
20:56:19 JenniferW : Sharon's doing it tonight
20:56:27 JenniferW : so quick prayers -- it is her first time
20:56:31 Diane Hammond : A or B?
20:56:36 JenniferW : will be A
20:56:40 JenniferW : but not yet
20:56:57 Diane Hammond : ok, i'll stay away from the revolving door
20:57:03 JenniferW : grins --- good
20:57:14 JenniferW : So Diane you only went for Edublogger??
20:57:44 Diane Hammond : Yes, that's all i could afford timewise!!!
20:57:55 Diane Hammond : Did you see David Warlick's video of Edubloggercon?
20:57:56 JenniferW : ahhhh -- I got to EduB -- really late
20:57:59 JenniferW : just did
20:58:08 Diane Hammond : He did a good job!
20:58:16 JenniferW : looks like he had fun
20:59:51 JenniferW : we are streaming
20:59:54 JenniferW : someone check please
21:00:18 Diane Hammond : Echo...echo...
21:00:25 JenniferW : who???
21:00:32 Diane Hammond : sharon
21:00:40 JenniferW : we don't know how to fix it -- Guest 478 DAVE??
21:01:02 Diane Hammond : yes, i can hear you
21:02:15 vincej : yes
21:02:48 Diane Hammond : it's still there
21:02:52 vincej : yes still here echo
21:03:09 sharonp : the echo is driving me crazy
21:03:18 sharonp : am streaming for the first time
21:03:52 vincej : can we minimize the echo
21:04:59 Diane Hammond : We're a kind lot!
21:05:13 vincej : sharon is echoing
21:05:19 Durff : meow
21:05:21 vincej : jen is good and the cats sounds fine
21:05:56 lawtona : Hi there, sorry to interrupt, I'm looking for Women of the Web, 9:00?
21:05:56 Durff : thats an echo
21:06:04 Colleen : This is it.
21:06:06 JenniferW : http://lesliefranke.com/files/reference/firefoxcheatsheet.pdf
21:06:08 vincej : sharon still echoes..or is it the Mac
21:06:16 lawtona : Oops, thanks.
21:06:27 Durff : we love the echo anyway
21:06:27 vincej : hi anne you are in the right place..vince
21:06:36 lawtona : thanks Vince
21:07:16 JenniferW : http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA100744321033.aspx?pid=CH1004874...
21:08:51 vincej : jen do you have the ff pdf link?
21:08:56 JenniferW : http://www.instructables.com/about/
21:10:13 Durff : cool - thanks!
21:10:44 vincej : that is neat
21:11:24 Durff : hi colleen
21:11:46 Colleen : Hi Durff! I've heard so much about you.
21:12:02 Colleen : You're in the comments a lot.
21:12:06 JenniferW : Hi Kristy
21:12:21 Colleen : I'm Colleen.
21:12:22 JenniferW : yes, Vincaz
21:12:26 JenniferW : LOL -- Hi Colleen
21:12:31 Colleen : Hi Jen
21:12:35 JenniferW : http://lesliefranke.com/files/reference/firefoxcheatsheet.pdf
21:12:45 vincej : tks jen
21:12:51 sharonp : http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/archives/002978.html
21:13:48 vincej : http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2007/07/02/the-olympics-effect-theory/
21:13:58 sharonp : thanks Vince, my next point
21:14:56 sharonp : this might be a good topic for Diane to contribute - about the edubloggercon - Graham Wegner's blog post about olympics effect theory
21:15:16 JenniferW : http://thejournal.com/articles/17325
21:15:33 sharonp : I know Diane is Canadian and I know she was at the edubloggercon (thanks for introducing yourself to me!)
21:16:57 vincej : tks Jen great for my grad course!
21:17:04 alexr : Can you pop that link back in the chat, again, Jen?
21:17:11 alexr : The Journal article?
21:17:43 JenniferW : http://thejournal.com/articles/17325
21:18:28 alexr : Thanks.
21:18:33 JenniferW : you are welcome
21:18:38 guest478 : http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/908
21:18:48 Durff : i liked his post
21:19:12 Diane Hammond : I didn't notice that I was Canadian, except that i don't have a funny accent.
21:19:13 JenniferW : welcome Vince
21:19:23 Durff : can i ignore guest478?
21:19:30 Diane Hammond : The issues we discussed were not American.
21:19:38 JenniferW : LOL -- you could but now that you have announced it -- LOL -- kinda rude :)
21:20:03 Durff : exactly
21:20:06 guest478 : google search for "nicecast host echo" first response
21:20:19 Diane Hammond : Issues such as large-scale assessment driving instruction pertain to Canada as well as the US.
21:21:43 guest478 : it certainly is...
21:21:43 guest478 : Montreal is a pretty good town
21:21:55 Durff : yes!
21:22:01 Diane Hammond : Edubloggercon by nature I think is more international than NECC itself.
21:22:13 Diane Hammond : Montreal is a great place for a conference!!!
21:22:53 sharonp : good point Diane!!
21:23:39 guest478 : is this graham wegner you're talking about/
21:23:40 guest478 : ?
21:23:46 vincej : yes
21:23:48 Durff : me?
21:23:50 Diane Hammond : NECC is not promoted in Canada.
21:23:51 Durff : yes
21:24:02 guest478 : he's a little touchy about the US centered thing http://gwegner.edublogs.org/2006/12/29/grahams-non-authorative-2006-list...
21:24:02 sharonp : I agree Diane
21:24:05 guest478 : :)
21:24:17 Durff : philly is a good place for a conference too
21:24:30 Durff : jan 26th
21:24:34 vincej : NECC wa sin Philly 2 years ago
21:24:34 Colleen : Philly gets my vote!
21:24:41 Colleen : Too bad.
21:24:47 Durff : you coming?
21:24:54 Diane Hammond : NECC is also pretty expensive and school boards tend not to fund out of country conferences.
21:24:58 vincej : sure
21:24:59 Durff : educon20?
21:25:00 JenniferW : Philly is again in 5 years I believe
21:25:07 JenniferW : 2012??
21:25:09 guest478 : jails are bad EVERYWHERE
21:25:16 Durff : no 2008
21:25:21 Diane Hammond : You can survive in Montreal en anglais
21:25:21 Durff : at SLA
21:25:25 JenniferW : 2008 is San Antonio
21:25:31 guest478 : Tu pense tu?
21:25:32 JenniferW : 2009 is Washington DC
21:25:44 Durff : ok two different conferences
21:25:47 Diane Hammond : Je pense que oui
21:26:11 Diane Hammond : I'm sorry i missed the International reception!
21:26:35 guest478 : guest out... happy webcasting :)
21:26:37 vincej : food was better at int reception!!
21:27:01 Durff : ubye?
21:27:23 sharonp : hah! no food at grand opening!
21:27:40 Durff : sprechen Sie Deutsch?
21:27:41 Diane Hammond : I said you could survive in Montreal in english (en anglais)
21:27:51 sharonp : oui
21:27:54 vincej : yes
21:27:57 Durff : vielen dank
21:28:08 sharonp : like me - I almost never use French here
21:28:10 Colleen : hip hip hooray for the bloggers cafe
21:28:16 vincej : te groeten allemal
21:28:19 Durff : amen
21:28:57 Colleen : Peggy Sheehy
21:29:09 Durff : hi doug
21:29:20 DS : Hey Lisa, and all
21:29:23 sharonp : an alternative to SL = http://www.umindsoft.com/
21:29:39 DS : wooohooo Second Life!
21:30:00 Durff : yea SL
21:30:19 Colleen : Durff, who are you in SL?
21:30:36 DS : hang gliding too
21:31:37 Diane Hammond : I still haven't been in Second Life ... maybe when I retire
21:31:58 Durff : me?
21:32:02 Colleen : Yes
21:32:12 Durff : edith halderman
21:32:29 Colleen : Oh...that sounds familiar
21:32:34 Diane Hammond : BRAVO!
21:32:36 Durff : :)
21:33:20 Colleen : DS, who are you in Second Life?
21:33:51 Durff : intellectual?
21:34:26 DS : sorry multitasking
21:34:30 DS : I'm Cosmo Commons
21:34:41 DS : Doug Symington in RL
21:34:44 Durff : i thought only women did that
21:34:49 Diane Hammond : I got to interview will richardson in the warm-up and he told me if is actually pretty quiet and doesn't like to talk in public. you wouldn't know that from his blog.
21:34:49 Colleen : Cosmo, I'm Kristy Flanagan.
21:35:12 sharonp : yes Diane, I know others like that
21:35:26 Durff : a guest book in SL offices would be nice
21:37:52 Durff : she was happy with your help too
21:38:01 DS : Colleen/Kristy--believe we've met--saw your counting robot
21:38:11 DS : most impressive
21:38:18 DS : in SL
21:38:20 Colleen : Yes, you showed me your parcel of land.
21:38:29 DS : yes
21:38:35 DS : good to "see" you again
21:38:42 Colleen : You, too!
21:39:22 Durff : democratic, it was?
21:40:18 sharonp : twitter.com
21:40:49 Durff : but WOW was there!
21:41:13 DS : that's great JDub--workin' the room!
21:41:39 Durff : always up for a good time
21:42:01 Diane Hammond : cokie crumbs
21:42:05 Diane Hammond : cookie
21:42:10 sharonp : what is the SL address
21:42:30 JenniferW : just a second
21:42:49 Durff : choc. chip
21:43:05 Durff : :) good name
21:43:41 JenniferW : http://www.bretagdesigns.com/technologist/?p=277
21:43:46 Durff : i wish i was thhere
21:43:49 JenniferW : that is Ryan's Bretag
21:43:55 JenniferW : Blog
21:44:04 Diane Hammond : There were a number of peole who skyped in who probably feel like thye were at NECC
21:44:25 Durff : i wish
21:44:39 Durff : :(
21:45:06 JenniferW : Hey Doug
21:45:17 Durff : ME!
21:45:18 Diane Hammond : Great idea!
21:45:49 DS : the other thing for conferencing of note, like NECC
21:46:08 DS : is to make sure that media is archived for those who would like/can't make it
21:46:24 DS : of course that's licensed by the respective assoc, but....
21:46:29 Durff : and don't depend on
21:46:29 JenniferW : http://svr43.ehostpros.com/~theblo43/
21:46:35 JenniferW : that is the blogger's cafe link
21:46:43 JenniferW : it should resolve in the next 24 hours
21:46:44 Durff : NECC to do it
21:47:02 Durff : really?
21:47:11 Durff : JDub?
21:47:24 Durff : Hi Karen
21:47:31 KarenJanowski : Hi, all!
21:47:41 KarenJanowski : almost forgot about WOW tonight!
21:47:46 KarenJanowski : what's the topic?
21:47:49 JenniferW : JDub -- tis ME
21:47:53 Durff : NECC
21:47:55 JenniferW : Karen -- we are doing a recap
21:48:01 KarenJanowski : excellent!
21:48:02 JenniferW : we are chatting about Twitter.com
21:48:24 Durff : Twitku
21:48:33 Durff : not Twitter
21:48:41 Durff : but Twitku
21:49:12 Durff : it's community
21:50:17 Diane Hammond : So how big do you want your twitter network to be?
21:50:21 KarenJanowski : so Twitter worked great at NECC - how about in our classrooms?
21:50:34 Diane Hammond : do you turn down twitter requests?
21:50:35 Durff : it could
21:50:44 sharonp : I think Jeff has something like 150 peeps in his twitter network
21:50:47 Durff : but i like meebo for kids
21:51:00 sharonp : I am careful with my twitter requests
21:51:02 KarenJanowski : what do you see as the difference?
21:51:09 Diane Hammond : Do "complete strangers" ask to be added to your twitter network?
21:51:20 sharonp : haven't had too many complete strangers
21:51:25 Diane Hammond : do you check people out first?
21:51:36 sharonp : have had some corporate twitter users try to include me
21:51:41 Durff : meebo widget comes to me only
21:51:54 Durff : parents like that
21:51:58 sharonp : can be used as a positive form of backchanneling for students
21:52:12 DS : that Adam Frey show was great too! One of the "lost classics"
21:52:12 Durff : older
21:52:17 KarenJanowski : Durff - so more control?
21:52:25 Durff : yes
21:52:28 sharonp : like any tech tool - neither good nor evil, but how one uses it
21:52:33 KarenJanowski : that's an advantage
21:53:00 Durff : middle school aren't mature enogh for twitter
21:53:17 Durff : i had that level
21:53:28 Durff : last year
21:53:40 Durff : hi tracie
21:53:58 KarenJanowski : seems like all the "NECCites" came home changed people!!
21:54:12 Diane Hammond : I can see the value at a big conference like NECC, but i'm not so sure on a daily basis.
21:55:04 Durff : but diane-it keeps one in touch
21:55:21 Durff : connects us to other people
21:55:33 KarenJanowski : one of my concerns is that we are reducing the attention spans of our kids
21:55:35 Diane Hammond : I think i need to try it.
21:55:48 sharonp : good point Karen
21:55:48 Durff : ok - add me
21:55:55 KarenJanowski : i see that with my own kids - if a youtube video is longer than about four minutes, they skip it
21:56:09 DS : I had a someone send out a "social networks taking down LAN" article
21:56:13 KarenJanowski : too long
21:56:15 sharonp : this is the age we live in - instant gratification
21:56:20 DS : after a presentation re Facebook
21:56:22 KarenJanowski : yes!
21:56:37 DS : tonnes o' resistance to IM and networks
21:56:41 Durff : i have a short span
21:56:48 Durff : think of kids
21:56:49 KarenJanowski : Durff - lol
21:56:55 sharonp : yes, there certainly is quite a lot of resistance
21:57:14 Durff : yea skype
21:57:17 KarenJanowski : DS - what is LAN?
21:57:24 Diane Hammond : That skype chat floored me!
21:57:25 DS : Local Area Network
21:57:27 DS : sorry
21:57:35 KarenJanowski : of course!
21:57:36 JenniferW : http://www.flickr.com/photos/jutecht/654358254/
21:57:41 DS : all sync stuff is "bad" in this model
21:57:43 Diane Hammond : I don't think my brain can handle all the stimulus.
21:57:55 Durff : sure it can
21:58:04 DS : essentially diametrically opposed to what's being discussed
21:58:08 Diane Hammond : with people who weren't even there
21:58:10 DS : in terms of connections online
21:58:20 Durff : why?
21:58:55 DS : threatens the existing way of "doing business" -- vested interests and all
21:59:03 Durff : oh
21:59:33 Durff : "because we have always done it that way" syndrome
21:59:39 DS : xactly
21:59:46 Durff : pooh
22:00:17 DS : sorry to hear that Sharon
22:01:18 KarenJanowski : the men were very active blogginga bout NECC
22:01:25 KarenJanowski : didn't see as many posts from women
22:01:35 JenniferW : I posted 2 times a day
22:01:37 JenniferW : or tried to
22:01:47 KarenJanowski : but you've been quiet lately, Jenn
22:01:55 JenniferW : Karen -- LOL
22:01:57 JenniferW : really??
22:02:01 Diane Hammond : Thanks everybody! fun evening!
22:02:02 JenniferW : I have created two new sites
22:02:05 KarenJanowski : am i missing your posts?
22:02:10 KarenJanowski : oh
22:02:15 Durff : and guest478
22:02:15 JenniferW : and 2 newsletters
22:02:22 DS : yes, thanks all
22:02:23 JenniferW : but I shall try to do better
22:02:24 vincej : thanks Jen and Sharon..great job hostesses
22:02:31 KarenJanowski : they aren't being picked up on my reader
22:02:37 Durff : night johnboy
22:02:38 JenniferW : did you know I have changed blogs
22:02:44 JenniferW : http://www.technospud.com/blogs
22:02:48 DS : Lisa lol
22:02:51 KarenJanowski : ok, i have to update!!
22:02:55 JenniferW : great
22:02:58 DS : cya all
22:03:02 JenniferW : night Doug
22:03:05 KarenJanowski : that's why i haven't seen anything from u lately
22:03:11 JenniferW : probably LOL
22:03:15 JenniferW : anyone going to SL??
22:03:23 KarenJanowski : that link didn't work
22:03:30 JenniferW : www.technospud.com/blog
22:03:32 JenniferW : one blog
22:03:55 KarenJanowski : there you are!
22:04:06 JenniferW : are we still streaming
22:04:12 Diane Hammond : No
22:04:20 KarenJanowski : thanks for the update!!
22:05:20 KarenJanowski : just added your new blog to my reader, thanks
22:05:30 KarenJanowski : good night all!
22:05:31 sharonp : I have to go and pay attention to my sis-in-law
22:58:07 [email protected] : dare cathy