EdTechYearly Chat Log
19:01:25 sroseman -> hi ..a little bit of crackle
19:01:42 sroseman -> no more crackle
19:02:15 Gary -> Did the Ustream stop?
19:02:35 sroseman -> nope
19:02:46 Gary -> Yes
19:02:47 sroseman -> some crackle
19:03:09 JenW -> pretending it is fire in fireplace
19:03:18 sroseman -> hi JenW
19:03:30 JenW -> Hey Sue -- Happy Holidays
19:03:39 sroseman -> thank you ..you too
19:03:43 sroseman -> raining here
19:03:49 sroseman -> there goes the skiing
19:05:00 jeff -> http://edtechtalk.com/EdTechYearly2007
19:05:29 sroseman -> checking it out now
19:05:46 JenW -> will all the links today be holiday links?? :)
19:07:14 JL -> hope everyone is enjoying the silent reflection time - big show ahead - we all need to gather our thouhgts
19:07:15 JohnS -> Jen -- this is a year-end kind of thing. Reflections on 2007. Not really a holiday show.
19:07:51 lee -> Hi
19:08:00 JohnS -> Hi Lee.
19:08:11 lee -> Everything alright?
19:08:19 JL -> just rebooting
19:08:25 JL -> should be back on in about 2 minutes
19:08:31 JL -> had some pesky crackle
19:08:46 JenW -> working on website -- probably will just be listening
19:08:52 JenW -> Happy Holidays to everyone one though
19:09:01 JohnS -> Here's the only holiday link I had: Alec Couros tweeted it yesterday: http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/732
19:09:10 JenW -> :) Thanks John
19:13:05 sroseman -> Are we still reflecting!!
19:13:16 sroseman -> love the reerence to dreidel
19:14:54 Durff -> ME!
19:15:00 Durff -> hi jen!
19:16:48 Durff -> url please
19:17:58 JenW -> smiles -- John posts on my blog!! :)
19:17:58 jeff -> http://edtechtalk.com/EdTechYearly2007
19:18:07 Durff -> thank you
19:18:32 Durff -> i have over 4000 updates
19:18:38 lizbdavis -> Twitter is my number one for this year!
19:20:24 lizbdavis -> Classroom 2.0 was pretty big for me
19:20:27 sroseman -> just happening to be reading this before this session re twitter http://tbarrett.edublogs.org/
19:20:49 lizbdavis -> on ning
19:21:54 lizbdavis -> GarageBand and Wikispaces
19:22:29 Durff -> audio?
19:22:45 Durff -> thank you
19:24:13 sroseman -> tools are easier to implement
19:24:18 lizbdavis -> Ustream has been great for my own Professional Development
19:24:33 Durff -> Harvard Courses Online
19:24:45 joyces -> Australian Flexible Learning Framework free conferences
19:25:28 Durff -> yes and joining when they aren't looking :)
19:25:33 Gary -> You don't us the del.icio.us links?
19:25:40 Gary -> use
19:25:48 Durff -> but that is not new for 2007
19:25:58 Durff -> for me anyway
19:26:04 lizbdavis -> Edubloggercon at NECC was an amazing PD experience for me
19:26:13 Durff -> it was
19:26:31 Durff -> and Skype brought me into it
19:27:28 lizbdavis -> PD is harder when you are trying to stay ahead of your teachers - NECC was a lot of what I knew already.
19:27:59 Durff -> but which one do students use?
19:28:03 lizbdavis -> except for Edublogger con
19:28:07 lizbdavis -> KidPix
19:28:52 Durff -> i used bubbl.us
19:29:19 sroseman -> http://www.picnik.com/
19:29:52 Durff -> plethora? what a word
19:29:58 Durff -> hi jo
19:30:07 JohnS -> liz: that's good to hear. My teachers like it too.
19:30:10 joyces -> should we stay ahead of our teachers, or try to make them stay ahead by themselves?
19:30:13 jomcleay -> Hi Lisa
19:30:18 sroseman -> flixn
19:30:28 jomcleay -> can't hear audio
19:30:28 joyces -> my webcam with built in micrpohpone
19:30:55 jomcleay -> now I can yay
19:31:04 sroseman -> ipod touch
19:31:15 jeff -> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Home...
19:32:06 jomcleay -> Twitter for me too
19:32:56 Gary -> Significant trends: many more people are using Skype and other similar tools - in education and for their own use.
19:32:59 jeff -> jo, gettign audio yet?
19:33:13 jeff -> we're on ustream at http://edtechtalk.com/studio
19:33:17 jomcleay -> yep got it now Jeff thanks
19:33:46 lizbdavis -> Re-thinking how to do PD for teachers - more emphasis on insisting that people figure things out on their own - not constantly holding people's hands
19:33:54 Durff -> sounds like a need for aa 12step program
19:34:29 JackieB -> @lizbdavis - I know I like figuring it out on my own.
19:34:30 joyces -> i agree - much more connected this year
19:35:18 Durff -> Meebo is big with students
19:35:20 joyces -> so is the digital divide becoming more spread - those on are getting more and more connected ...
19:35:45 Gary -> Sometimes they just need to know how much less your long-distance bills will be with Skype.
19:35:53 Durff -> we seem to get more teachers connected at my school
19:36:03 jomcleay -> Hi Alice
19:36:09 alicebarr -> Hi Jo
19:36:13 joyces -> and those who are not on, have more to catch up on?
19:36:21 lizbdavis -> I am learning to split my attention - I can multi-task so much better than I used to.
19:36:40 sroseman -> are we watching less TV
19:36:44 Cathy E -> WOW live at NECC
19:36:49 Durff -> preparing a conference presentation
19:36:50 JackieB -> Much less t.v. for me.
19:37:03 joyces -> def watching less tv, but i moved to nz this year where they have 4 channels LOL
19:37:39 Durff -> David Warlick saying 'Hello" to me on JenW's Skype call to me - blew me away
19:38:13 lizbdavis -> @durff Cool!
19:38:28 JohnS -> Exactly
19:38:36 Durff -> i don't own a tv and really don't miss it except during the Olympics
19:38:53 lizbdavis -> I couldn't live without my TiVo
19:39:25 Durff -> liz - she did during NECC - they were in famed Blogger's Cafe
19:40:04 lizbdavis -> @that is where I met Chris Lehmann and said hello to Will Richardson
19:40:17 lizbdavis -> The iPhone rocks!
19:40:20 Durff -> those green computers
19:40:31 lizbdavis -> iPhone is so beautiful
19:40:59 alicebarr -> Love my iPhone
19:41:02 sroseman -> ipod touch is so awesome
19:41:07 lizbdavis -> Yes - facebook
19:41:10 Gary -> Second Life? Still needs so much work to be useful for education and most school districts block it.
19:41:22 lizbdavis -> Yes - second life too
19:41:49 Durff -> mine doesn't, byt SL takes too many resources to be useful
19:41:56 alicebarr -> Hate the apps in Facebook
19:42:17 jomcleay -> i'm really sorry I sent the teddy bears Jeff
19:42:46 lizbdavis -> My kids are getting XOs for Christmas - can't wait to see what they think
19:43:27 lizbdavis -> I'm hearing some iPhone envy?
19:43:36 jomcleay -> looking forward to getting an eee pc to trial next year
19:44:46 cpbw -> good question!
19:44:54 cpbw -> me too
19:45:15 JohnS -> http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/categories/desktop-linux/
19:45:16 lizbdavis -> There is a really funny Second Life You Tube video
19:45:20 joyces -> my Palm Lifedrive
19:45:31 sroseman -> learning curve steep..too geeky for the average classroom teacher
19:46:07 alicebarr -> @lizbdavis I love that video!
19:46:23 lizbdavis -> I'm frustrated with my teachers and my boss - why can't they "get" it
19:46:28 Cathy E -> I've heard great things about eee pc
19:46:30 JohnS -> what about the lifedrive?
19:46:56 alicebarr -> oooh @lizbdavis i hear you. I think we are in similar high schools.
19:47:10 lizbdavis -> Also frustrated by slow network!! It makes everything harder
19:47:52 cpbw -> I have had bad lags with Skype
19:48:03 cpbw -> Time for upgrade!
19:48:04 alicebarr -> Skypecasts seem like to many people just jump on
19:48:14 Durff -> you just like that chaotic audio element
19:48:19 cpbw -> I have never been part of a Skypecast
19:48:27 alicebarr -> that are not interested in the conversation
19:48:30 Durff -> they were great
19:48:51 cpbw -> Yeah but we have to teach them to be responsible self filters
19:48:56 cpbw -> they need that skill
19:49:01 lizbdavis -> I cant wait for the Educon 2.0 in Philly in January
19:49:13 jomcleay -> I predict that in 2008 we will have to change some of the terminology used as web 2.0 goes more mainstream
19:49:16 lizbdavis -> Yes - blocking is very frustrating!
19:49:18 joyces -> @liz and alice - me too, why don't they 'get' it?
19:49:32 jomcleay -> not podcasts but something else
19:49:36 Durff -> flashmeeting is promising
19:49:40 jomcleay -> not blogs but just websites
19:50:04 JackieB -> 32% have blogs?
19:50:09 Durff -> oh here's a thought - education!
19:50:11 jomcleay -> @liz and @alice I think it's because of the geeky terminology
19:50:26 JohnS -> I didn't make up the numbers: http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/archives/2007/10/15/social-netw orking-in-schools/ and http://www.nsba.org/site/docs/41400/41340.pdf and http://www.nsba.org/site/view.asp?TRACKID=&VID=2&CID=82&DID=41433
19:50:50 lizbdavis -> @jomcleay and low tolerance for frustration
19:51:05 jomcleay -> @liz yes I agree
19:51:08 alicebarr -> @joyces @jomcleay I think it's not looking at their practice... They don't really want to change
19:51:39 cpbw -> that's a good point!
19:51:43 Durff -> it's an excuse, not a valid reason
19:51:48 jomcleay -> What are the barriers? It seems all pretty esoteric for them
19:52:03 Durff -> they could provide an another activity first
19:52:16 lizbdavis -> They have to be convinced that the time it takes is worth it - and also to see that the problem solving is as important as the solution
19:52:18 Durff -> oh yea, here's a thought - let's educate
19:52:30 Gary -> Has always been a problem - does anyone remember 16 mm films?
19:52:39 Durff -> oh yes
19:52:47 Durff -> and ditto machines
19:52:52 Durff -> microfiche
19:52:56 jomcleay -> we need the students
19:53:04 Lee Ann Baber -> I think it is perfectly acceptable to teach problem solving skills when having technology problems
19:53:06 JohnS -> <beep>
19:53:06 alicebarr -> Maybe the students will take matters into their own hands ala Arthus
19:53:10 Durff -> oh did we ever get through?
19:53:12 JohnS -> Please advance the filmstrip
19:53:14 Gary -> You must be "older" Durff
19:53:27 Durff -> shhh!
19:53:38 Durff -> one is young as one feels
19:53:44 Durff -> therefore i am 12
19:53:46 lizbdavis -> Election - please a democrat!
19:54:02 Gary -> Hey I remember card punch cards and Fortran.
19:54:44 joyces -> Dummies to Delight - Thom Cochrane's journey to use CoPs to educate academic staff in web2.0 technologies - will try to emulate his approach in 2008 http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=-jn0HBIkF_U&feature=related
19:54:44 sroseman -> oh my gosh
19:54:46 jomcleay -> but small talk has a place in a network
19:54:51 Durff -> programming in Basic
19:55:03 Durff -> and thinking we were all that
19:55:06 Gary -> That was later for me
19:55:27 Durff -> i'm not a techie
19:55:34 Durff -> i was an artsy
19:56:01 Gary -> I was/am a science geek
19:56:04 Durff -> hey paul!
19:56:35 paul h -> Hey Durff how are things - yay Voicethread like it
19:56:37 Durff -> i'm durff (no further explanation needed)
19:56:53 Durff -> you're up late
19:56:54 paul h -> Twitter for me great for keeping in touch with the group.
19:56:59 sroseman -> clap clap
19:57:12 joyces -> @alice and liz, yes they have to learn to discover new tools for themselves, not think that us teaching them one more tool (Moodle, Skype or whatever) will see them right for the next few years
19:57:16 lizbdavis -> classroom 2.0 on ning has gotten huge
19:57:34 paul h -> Yup Lisa - just finished putting together some flat pack furniture - arghhh!!!
19:58:24 Durff -> clap, clap
19:58:54 paul h -> oh missed the main chat !!!! I blame IKEA :-)
19:59:03 sroseman -> thank you ..this is lifelong learning for me
19:59:54 Lee Ann Baber -> nice outro jeff
19:59:56 Cathy E -> You are so smooth Jeff
20:00:17 joyces -> ;)
20:00:19 Gary -> EdTechTalk remains the best PD for some of us old guys ever! Thanks!
20:00:34 Durff -> will he answer?
20:00:47 jomcleay -> missed you Dave
20:00:55 Durff -> is he ignoring us?
20:00:57 jomcleay -> Hello Arvind
20:01:03 arvind -> hola amigos
20:01:03 Durff -> hi arvind
20:01:12 arvind -> can´t hear anything, but can be in the chatroom
20:01:15 paul h -> Hi Jo how are you - did you get over being told off in school :-)
20:01:26 jomcleay -> It is pretty hard Paul
20:01:28 Durff -> no ustream arvind?
20:01:36 arvind -> am in a cybercafe in Mexico with no headphones
20:01:50 Durff -> you world traveller you
20:01:56 arvind -> indeed
20:02:03 Durff -> having a great time?
20:02:06 jeff -> http://voicethread.com/share/19091/
20:02:07 jomcleay -> I'm over it now though and ever so organised
20:02:12 paul h -> Is that called Country Dropping ??
20:02:24 paul h -> Good Jo :-)
20:02:28 Durff -> it is paul
20:02:37 jomcleay -> How are u Paul
20:02:42 Durff -> where will he go next?
20:02:54 Durff -> jen says hi arvind
20:02:55 jomcleay -> Jen just says Hi
20:02:55 JohnS -> Arvind: jen says Hi
20:03:08 paul h -> Well just finished teaching - Paul H has left the Classroom :-)
20:03:18 Durff -> happy?
20:03:25 jomcleay -> lol
20:03:30 susanvg -> The world is connected
20:03:38 Durff -> talk about global connections
20:03:39 jomcleay -> I like it
20:03:49 Durff -> chinese?
20:04:10 Durff -> awww!
20:04:15 jomcleay -> Paul, can't wait to hear about your next stage in life
20:04:17 JackieB -> Hey I'm in Illinois. What can I do?
20:04:22 Durff -> brocoli sounds good
20:04:54 jomcleay -> How long do you have off Cathy
20:04:58 jomcleay -> ?
20:05:02 paul h -> It all starts for me on Jan 7th.
20:05:21 jomcleay -> will u blog it all Paul?
20:05:26 Durff -> vacation?
20:05:38 arvind -> thanks for the hi Jen, was away for sec
20:05:45 JohnS -> Can iphones do twitter while on a voice call?
20:05:51 Durff -> she is funny
20:06:15 jomcleay -> Happy New year Jen
20:06:17 Durff -> jen says happy new year now
20:06:35 arvind -> thanks, feliz nuevo ano Jen!
20:06:35 Durff -> she has no power - so being very humorous
20:06:52 Durff -> i don't speak mexican
20:07:04 arvind -> Kind of strange with the audio. Very strange actually. Let me see if they have some headphones around here
20:07:20 paul h -> Blwyddyn Newydd Dda ( Happy New Year) from Wales
20:07:41 Durff -> can you say that 12times fast?
20:08:10 JohnS -> That looks like the stuff I write when my fingers are on the wrong keys
20:08:17 paul h -> ha :(
20:08:21 sroseman -> Must check my roast beef
20:08:40 paul h -> - we just lack vowels :-)
20:08:46 JohnS -> :-)
20:08:52 Durff -> is that all you lack?
20:08:54 jomcleay -> better go bye all and have a great Christmas and new year
20:09:01 paul h -> LISA !
20:09:06 Durff -> same to you Jo
20:09:19 Durff -> froehliche weihnachten paul
20:09:20 paul h -> Bye Jo will catch up with you soon
20:09:28 alicebarr -> Happy Hols all! Have a great one!
20:09:31 susanvg -> Happy Holidays all
20:09:33 Durff -> here here
20:09:35 JackieB -> Bye everyone. Thanks!
20:09:36 alicebarr -> See ya next year!
20:09:40 Durff -> bye all
20:09:46 Gary -> Bye
20:09:55 paul h -> Nice to catch up with everyone again :-)
20:09:58 paul h -> bye
20:10:59 arvind -> show over?
20:11:16 jeff -> yep
20:11:18 jeff -> si
20:11:34 arvind -> didnt think i would get a response, thought that was bot-jeff
20:11:44 jeff -> this is bot jeff
20:11:52 arvind -> ha ha, bueno
20:12:19 arvind -> hasta luego senor robot