Chat Logs from the SLN SOL Summit
09:19:45 CK -> What icon do I click to start listening. I'm on this page: http://edtechtalk.com/sln
09:20:34 JL -> Howdy folks
09:20:43 Eurominuteman -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
09:20:57 JL -> or http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
09:21:59 paul mclean -> video is dark because the lights in the room were turned down
09:23:05 paul mclean -> welcome English Teacher and cmitchell
09:24:31 mary -> interest in what? i am onlhy half listening since I am multi tasking
09:24:48 EnglishTeacher -> Can you zoom in a bit more, so we can see the presenter's screen or the presenter?
09:25:13 EnglishTeacher -> Great1
09:26:17 Eurominuteman -> a bit more background light might be favorable
09:26:45 paul mclean -> can't help the lighting, it was requested that the room be dark for this presentation
09:28:03 Eurominuteman -> it would be nice to test some light from behind the screen
09:29:11 katinsl -> I have audio (had to go to iTunes), but not video. Do we need the VLC player for video?
09:29:42 Eurominuteman -> click on the circled arrow
09:29:43 JL -> no, video should be coming from ustream
09:29:50 paul mclean -> video should play from ustream. Try refreshing the page then click the arrow.
09:31:23 Eurominuteman -> who is zooming?
09:31:27 katinsl -> I'm sorry, but where is the circled arrow?
09:31:55 paul mclean -> zoomed in since the room is so dark the only thing you can see is the screenl.
09:32:07 Eurominuteman -> next to 10 viewers on the botto bar
09:32:15 Eurominuteman -> bottom
09:32:23 paul mclean -> There should be an arrow in the upper left hand window
09:32:41 Eurominuteman -> are you present live
09:32:48 paul mclean -> I am here live
09:32:49 Eurominuteman -> on-site
09:32:55 paul mclean -> on-site
09:33:29 Eurominuteman -> is jeff on-site too
09:33:33 paul mclean -> yes
09:33:44 Eurominuteman -> hi
09:34:03 katinsl -> I am at the pilot. sln.suny.edu site ... from the summit link that Alex sent ... still looking for the arrow :/
09:34:38 katinsl -> I'll try another machine/browser
09:35:40 paul mclean -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
09:35:48 paul mclean -> use the link I just posted
09:35:57 Eurominuteman -> it is part of the ustream box, grey color bar
09:36:31 paul mclean -> hello hope
09:39:16 paul mclean -> Is the audio clear for everyone?
09:39:29 Eurominuteman -> germany is ok
09:39:59 paul mclean -> again, sorry about the video, the lights were turned down in the room.
09:40:34 Eurominuteman -> use a lighter hehe
09:40:47 katinsl -> audio is good and I have the video now - on my Mac :)
09:40:50 paul mclean -> Maybe I will get my flashlight
09:41:01 paul mclean -> great katinsi
09:43:10 Eurominuteman -> is live lighting more visible?
09:43:18 paul mclean -> not really
09:43:26 Eurominuteman -> hehe
09:43:29 paul mclean -> The live on my screen is just as dark
09:44:04 Eurominuteman -> strange requirement, hehe
09:44:37 Eurominuteman -> hahaha
09:44:40 EnglishTeacher -> Audio is good in Japan.
09:46:26 paul mclean -> can everyone see and hear the movie that is playing?
09:46:33 mary -> i can
09:46:38 Eurominuteman -> its ok
09:46:56 mary -> cutting the stream of water
09:47:02 EnglishTeacher -> No problem.
09:47:02 mary -> with scissors
09:49:18 paul mclean -> that distortion is part of the movie
09:51:33 Eurominuteman -> my equalizer from the sound card support software gives me some interesting output
09:52:01 paul mclean -> I had to pull my earphones out
09:52:23 Eurominuteman -> i am trying all the presets
09:54:33 Hope Windle -> This is amazing to see the conference from this vantage!
09:55:01 paul mclean -> Glad you are amazed.
09:55:12 paul mclean -> and you didn't have to drive in the snow
09:55:27 Eurominuteman -> equalizer for listening is one side, can you influence the input
09:56:15 Eurominuteman -> using an equalizer
09:56:20 Hope Windle -> Who made this movie? Are you on the camera? yeah, we have little hocky puck cars that would have skittered around the road
09:57:21 paul mclean -> The presenters students made the movie
09:58:51 paul mclean -> And it appears that we just violated ustream language policy
10:01:16 Eurominuteman -> how far can you zoom in
10:01:41 paul mclean -> That is as far as I can zoom\
10:02:24 Eurominuteman -> are you using a camcorder
10:02:30 paul mclean -> yes
10:02:32 EnglishTeacher -> Is the URL at the top of the screen somehow related to this presenter?
10:02:50 paul mclean -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
10:02:56 paul mclean -> is the page for this presentation
10:03:12 paul mclean -> Each presentation today has its own page
10:03:32 Eurominuteman -> how much does the camcorder zoom in numbers
10:04:08 paul mclean -> don't know
10:04:11 Eurominuteman -> 10x ? 6 x?
10:04:20 Hope Windle -> I lost audio?
10:04:32 paul mclean -> refresh the page
10:04:45 Hope Windle -> got it. Thanks
10:04:54 Eurominuteman -> is it a 3CCD camcorder?
10:05:23 Eurominuteman -> or a one CCD
10:05:52 Hope Windle -> we are seeing the SOL on top of the computer screen page
10:06:04 paul mclean -> don't have a clue about the camorder
10:06:06 Eurominuteman -> 3CCD means 3 separate chips for each base color
10:06:19 Table2 -> suspect it's once ccd
10:06:23 paul mclean -> I point it at the screen
10:06:27 Table2 -> :)
10:06:57 Hope Windle -> Still seeing the SOL Summit calendar covering whatever Jon is showingus
10:07:41 paul mclean -> close your brower then go back in here:
10:07:44 paul mclean -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
10:09:15 EnglishTeacher -> Will there be other presentations here today? http://ustream.tv/channel/sln-sol-summit
10:09:32 Eurominuteman -> yes
10:09:35 paul mclean -> yes
10:09:47 EnglishTeacher -> Where can I find a schedule?
10:09:59 liliahurteau -> What about copyright issues when students are taking stuff off the Internet?
10:10:24 Eurominuteman -> http://edtechtalk.com/sln
10:10:27 Hope Windle -> just lost audio...
10:10:45 liliahurteau -> Plus, did he say much about online learning? I thought that is what the conference is about.
10:11:09 Hope Windle -> online learning internationally
10:11:29 Hope Windle -> using alternative tools for students to communicate
10:11:41 mary -> so far he has said that videos are a good way to share cultural information among young students...that is what I got out of it
10:11:47 liliahurteau -> He talked about making videos for cross-cultural purposes, but he didn't talk about how to incorporate that into an online or blended course.
10:12:21 Hope Windle -> the videos are the course since the course was about teaching video
10:12:49 Hope Windle -> the videos helped figure out hwo to communicate BY the medium being taught
10:13:08 Hope Windle -> but Jon would need to reply more fully
10:13:27 liliahurteau -> I disagree. There is the technology aspect of learning, and there is the pedagogical aspect. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't talk about pedagogy.
10:13:53 Eurominuteman -> he talked about cultural shock
10:14:23 Eurominuteman -> this is an advance perspective
10:15:25 Eurominuteman -> and about ethnocentrics
10:16:06 paul mclean -> hello all
10:17:12 Durff -> hi paul
10:17:24 Durff -> where is the location of this?
10:20:36 paul mclean -> Is the video here better than before?
10:21:01 Durff -> i don't know how it was, but fine now
10:21:15 Durff -> i'm grading and listening anyway
10:21:16 Eurominuteman -> the letters are bigger
10:21:22 paul mclean -> thanks
10:21:58 Eurominuteman -> if zoom it out on a 19 inch screen it loses resolution
10:22:21 Durff -> Jeff - i need this course this summer where you teach us how to use WebcamMax or CamTwist
10:22:37 paul mclean -> This is a direct svideo feed from a computer, not a camera zoom.
10:22:47 Table2 -> I think Paul will be teaching one :)
10:23:35 paul mclean -> I need your feedback if it is clearer then the previous presentation which was a camera zoom
10:24:34 paul mclean -> Now we are using the camera
10:24:51 paul mclean -> lighting is still now great, but better than earlier
10:25:05 Eurominuteman -> it is more dynamic due to the lighting
10:25:11 Hope Windle -> much better. We can actually see Chuck. Jon was too dark we couldn't see him at all
10:25:20 paul mclean -> I agree
10:25:52 Hope Windle -> You could actually just show Chuck since we can see his powerpoint below seeing him
10:26:05 Eurominuteman -> the ceiling lights should be behind the screen
10:26:31 Eurominuteman -> @durff http://webcastacademy.net/node/1962
10:27:15 alexandra -> http://www.nosignificantdifference.org/
10:28:42 paul mclean -> can everyone here the audio?
10:28:50 Eurominuteman -> great
10:28:50 mary -> i can
10:29:25 alexandra -> http://rite.ucf.edu/index.html
10:30:48 Eurominuteman -> the switch between camcorder and the computer signal for the presentation is a pleasant process
10:32:09 alexandra -> http://www.if.ucf.edu/
10:34:32 clark -> hello
10:34:43 alexandra -> hey clark
10:35:03 clark -> just checking this out :)
10:36:56 Eurominuteman -> where is his microphone
10:38:33 paul mclean -> A usb mic right in front of him
10:40:24 Eurominuteman -> i see it. i have the same one
10:40:34 paul mclean -> just turned on the second camera located at the bottom of each presentation page
10:40:46 paul mclean -> You can see the microphones in that shot
10:40:54 Eurominuteman -> yes
10:41:21 Hope Windle -> is there a way to not get bounced out of the chat feature?
10:41:52 JohnS -> Don't reload the page that the chat is on.
10:42:01 paul mclean -> Don't know, I have not had a problem
10:43:05 paul mclean -> can everyone see the second camera shot at the bottom of each presentation page
10:43:16 clark -> i see no video - what format is it?
10:43:26 Eurominuteman -> i see it. it has a time lag
10:43:27 paul mclean -> live.yahoo
10:43:39 Hope Windle -> is it teeny tiny?
10:43:48 paul mclean -> yes it does, they are not in sinc since they are comming from two diffrerent servers.
10:43:51 alexandra -> http://www.if.ucf.edu/
10:44:34 Eurominuteman -> two videos is also a pleasant process
10:44:43 paul mclean -> We just wanted to see if we could broadcast to cameras and a computer feed at the same time
10:45:16 Eurominuteman -> i get both fine. there is just a time lag
10:45:25 paul mclean -> And it looks like we have succedded
10:45:49 clark -> oh, there it is, at the bottom!
10:46:03 paul mclean -> so you can see it, good
10:46:13 clark -> have to scroll up/down to see chat and video
10:46:44 clark -> must be another format at the top next to the chat that my Mac can't read?
10:46:48 Hope Windle -> and if you click on the slide icon, bottome right, you can see where we are in the set of slides...nice feature..
10:46:55 paul mclean -> Yes, we sill have to design a better page when we do it for real, I am just testing the process right now.
10:47:22 paul mclean -> Jeff told me about that feature.
10:47:42 paul mclean -> He will be presenting this afternoon and tell you all about how this stuff works.
10:49:10 paul mclean -> And we will have a recording of what is on the main window with audioto look at later on.
10:49:44 Eurominuteman -> i opened 2 windows with 4 video feeds to zoom each stream separately, but i also get 2 audio streams with a lag
10:50:51 clark -> this is nifty, i can stay in my hotel room :)
10:50:56 Eurominuteman -> this does not work
10:51:05 clark -> too lazy to go downstiars
10:51:09 paul mclean -> what does not work
10:51:39 paul mclean -> So dark you are upstairs at the hotel here?
10:51:57 Eurominuteman -> i opened 2 windows with 4 video feeds to zoom each stream separately, but i also get 2 audio streams with a lag
10:52:20 Eurominuteman -> this does not work conveniently
10:52:23 JohnS -> If you can switch the second video window with the voicethread, you might be able to fit them both at the same time.
10:52:28 paul mclean -> If you get the audio from the webcam max window, you should not use the speaker icon.
10:53:17 paul mclean -> The only automatic audio stream is in the webcam max window.
10:53:19 Eurominuteman -> i would like 2 video streams on my 2 computer screens, and 1 audio stream
10:53:48 Eurominuteman -> this would be the best configuration
10:53:55 JohnS -> You could also use Yugma to b'cast the presentation slides, and optionally ustream them with webcam max.
10:54:16 JohnS -> Can you broadcast video but no audio on camera2?
10:54:39 Table2 -> good idea - not sure if Yahoo live has that option, but Ustream does
10:55:06 clark -> Perhaps a 3 column page at the bottom would work - video on both sides, chat and voicethread in the middle?
10:55:17 paul mclean -> I already turned the audio off on live.yahoo
10:55:31 paul mclean -> Now that is a good idea dark
10:55:39 Eurominuteman -> both videos would need to be embedded in separate windows too
10:56:08 Eurominuteman -> to zoom out separately
10:56:17 alexandra -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o
10:56:20 clark -> Ah, I there is a pop-out capability for the chat, that's handy
10:56:55 clark -> the icon between the speaker/audio and ? help in the chat
10:57:32 guest478 -> hey edtech dudes.
10:57:46 paul mclean -> Hello guest478
10:58:04 paul mclean -> Are you any relation to 476?
10:58:19 guest478 -> nope... i'm an irritating entity all of my own.
10:59:31 guest478 -> I don't think my expectations are that clear...
10:59:50 JohnS -> Hey, 478. Welcome to the party
11:00:10 guest478 -> I'm also surprised to find myself in the GenX category...
11:00:26 paul mclean -> I am a yuffy
11:00:42 paul mclean -> Not a yuppie
11:00:49 paul mclean -> Young Urban Failure
11:01:15 clark -> lol
11:01:56 paul mclean -> But now, now so young
11:02:05 paul mclean -> So I was a yuffie
11:02:15 paul mclean -> now I guess I am an Offie
11:02:40 Table2 -> @guest478 you must be old ...
11:02:54 mary -> can he post the link to his website
11:03:15 Eurominuteman -> 2 video streams and 1 audio stream are a good composition
11:03:53 mary -> can someone post the link her to the presenter`s web site?
11:04:20 alexandra -> http://rite.ucf.edu/index.html
11:04:29 mary -> thanks
11:04:51 alexandra -> http://www.if.ucf.edu/
11:06:59 Eurominuteman -> i lost the audio
11:07:11 Durff -> me too
11:08:41 Eurominuteman -> still no audio
11:10:34 Durff -> listen using the streams
11:10:51 Eurominuteman -> i have audio off and on now
11:10:55 guest478 -> audio0 back
11:11:21 Eurominuteman -> audio is on now
11:11:24 Durff -> oh hello dave
11:11:28 guest478 -> who's people-ing the worldbridges studio?
11:12:13 guest478 -> I miss doing conferences with Jeff.
11:15:55 guest478 -> where's my playbyplay commentary
11:18:11 JohnS -> Jeff misses you, too, 478
11:18:30 paul mclean -> we will be starting shortly
11:21:24 ds -> @JenM what time are you and JL on?
11:22:01 mary -> what is the youtube url for this video (or the name of it so I can find it)?
11:22:04 JohnS -> Doug: they're on at 2PM Eastern; 2.5 hours from now.
11:22:40 ds -> thanks John--have to run now, but hope to be back--give them a "break a leg" from me and ttys
11:23:33 guest478 -> I'm loving the backchatter.
11:25:33 JohnS -> Too many things on my screen. My scroll wheel is very confused.
11:29:18 paul mclean -> Video here again is from a camcorder only, no svideo out from the computer.
11:31:55 Hope Windle -> any way we could get the svideo from the computer?
11:33:18 Jen -> not when presenters use their own computers - paul has it set up to work for the machine he brought
11:34:17 paul mclean -> There is not enough time to set up svideo between presentations if they use their own machines
11:34:41 Eurominuteman -> too bad
11:35:29 paul mclean -> most have it, but don't know how to use it, and it is diffrent for every type of computer except a mac
11:36:40 alexandra -> http://www.sunybroome.edu/catalog/academicinfo.html#onac
11:37:20 paul mclean -> Can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
11:38:19 guest478 -> yes.
11:40:02 Eurominuteman -> yes
11:40:51 Eurominuteman -> what impact does a laser pointer have
11:41:25 paul mclean -> Not using a lazer pointer here
11:45:01 Eurominuteman -> this piece of audio was bad within the presentation
11:47:14 paul mclean -> how is the audio for everyone?
11:47:22 Eurominuteman -> ok
11:52:04 Eurominuteman -> ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
11:52:17 katinsl -> audio is fine for me Paul
11:52:53 Eurominuteman -> i get a bbbrrrrrrrrr
11:55:02 Eurominuteman -> no brrrrr now, but i shifted volume levels up now
11:56:27 clark -> there was bunch of audio hum for a while, but it's fixed
11:56:34 clark -> (for those not here, so you know)
11:56:38 mary -> sound is good here
11:56:55 Eurominuteman -> i quickly shifted the volume down again
11:57:51 Hope Windle -> the camera is too far away to see the screen
11:59:43 Hope Windle -> can we zoom into the course on the screen ?
12:00:39 paul mclean -> I will once he starts talking about what is on the screen
12:02:27 JenM -> hi lisa
12:02:29 Eurominuteman -> the letters are too small
12:02:46 paul mclean -> It is just as hard to see in person
12:07:14 paul mclean -> The actual audio is as bad as you are hearing
12:07:28 mary -> ok
12:07:44 LarryDugan -> Where is the feed url?
12:08:11 JenM -> ETT interface is at http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
12:08:39 JenM -> Also at: http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/shareandtell/sharea...
12:09:21 JenM -> Ustream direct at: http://ustream.tv/suny
12:10:23 LarryDugan -> Thanks got it, but I should probably not do this from inside the conference room... I am probably causing the stream issue!!
12:12:33 Durff -> doubt Larry that you are causing any stream issue
12:12:52 Durff -> now as to being generally disruptive....
12:13:03 Larrydugan -> he is hard wired... isn't he?
12:13:13 alexandra -> http://picasaweb.google.com/millerr.newpaltz.edu/SUNYCoursePhotosA
12:13:17 Durff -> i'm sure
12:16:46 paul mclean -> can anyone make out what is on the screen
12:17:00 duganls -> no...
12:17:11 Durff -> wish i could see his screen directly or larger
12:17:34 Durff -> looks like his moodle site
12:17:55 alexandra -> it's blackboard
12:18:10 paul mclean -> His text is small, and he opened a window that did not fill up the whole page. I can't control for that
12:18:22 duganls -> so thats why it hard to use....
12:18:59 paul mclean -> Everthing is much easier when the presenter uses our machine, but all but one has insisted on using their own computer.
12:19:43 paul mclean -> So for all of you out there wanting to do this I would recommend insisting that they use your machine unless there is a very good reason not to.
12:20:31 paul mclean -> The quality suffers so much when you can't control all of what is fedding the streams.
12:21:03 Durff -> ah challenges of conference-casting
12:21:26 paul mclean -> If he were using my machine I could have expanded the window and increased the text size.
12:21:46 paul mclean -> And get an svideo feed that would be much clearer.
12:21:55 Eurominuteman -> Strg +
12:22:01 Durff -> the guy this morning was great
12:22:10 alexandra -> http://www.newpaltz.edu/academics/online.html
12:22:22 JenM -> @durff .. jeff hasn't gone on, yet :)
12:22:22 paul mclean -> The one guy who used all our stuff came out great.
12:23:01 Durff -> JenM - that's what i mean
12:23:14 JenM -> ;)
12:23:21 Eurominuteman -> we need to build the requirements more explicit
12:23:42 Durff -> thanks alexandria!
12:23:51 Eurominuteman -> requirements management
12:24:13 Durff -> what time is JL?
12:24:22 alexandra -> almost time for lunch
12:24:28 JenM -> 2:00 ish
12:24:46 JenM -> This is JL - I'm just Jen's assistant
12:24:48 alexandra -> he is suppposed to go at at 1
12:24:52 Durff -> ooo - computer 8! yes!!
12:24:59 alexandra -> not 2
12:25:02 Durff -> 2pm?
12:25:11 JenM -> really? isn't Larry Johnson on at 1?
12:25:18 Durff -> 1pm?
12:25:30 Durff -> make up my mind
12:25:33 larrydugan -> but ... what about lunch?
12:25:44 alexandra -> yes 1-2pm but we are running late
12:25:52 Durff -> is this being recorded?
12:25:56 alexandra -> yes
12:25:58 Durff -> ustream?
12:26:03 Durff -> great
12:26:13 alexandra -> : )
12:26:22 Eurominuteman -> this guy declared himself to be teacher-centered at the beginning, he kept his promise
12:26:26 paul mclean -> Larry is listed as 1 on the agenda, but I doubt it will go off at one.
12:26:39 Durff -> i have 2-2:30 to hear JL
12:27:08 Durff -> ouch
12:27:55 alexandra -> the way it looks right now is a start time of about 1:30
12:28:19 Eurominuteman -> after lunch siesta
12:29:18 Durff -> i can deal with 1:30!
12:29:41 Eurominuteman -> i'll have supper
12:30:13 Durff -> i'll have more lunch
12:33:08 Eurominuteman -> show us what you're eating
12:33:35 Durff -> iceberg lettuce salad - not interesting
12:33:55 Durff -> hi lee
12:34:01 lee baber -> hi durff
12:34:06 lee baber -> any streaming on?
12:34:10 Eurominuteman -> hi lee
12:34:21 lee baber -> hello james
12:34:41 lee baber -> i suppose i missed jen and jeff's event?
12:34:43 lee baber -> or not?
12:34:47 Eurominuteman -> we will see jeff eating lunch
12:34:59 lee baber -> is there an all day online coverage?
12:35:06 lee baber -> oh great
12:35:12 lee baber -> i like lunch videos
12:35:14 lee baber -> :)
12:35:22 lee baber -> where?
12:35:47 Eurominuteman -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
12:36:19 Eurominuteman -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
12:36:53 lee baber -> OK
12:36:56 lee baber -> thank you James
12:40:49 lee baber -> Do you all know what the other video stream is? is that a Red5
12:44:23 lee baber -> Anyone know where the conference schedule is?
12:51:33 Eurominuteman -> http://edtechtalk.com/sln
12:58:03 lee baber -> Now I am on http://edtechtalk.com/sln but no video..so we should we just use a different site for the video?
12:58:28 lee baber -> nice live blog and schedule here
12:59:01 leebaber -> ok
12:59:23 leebaber -> http://edtechtalk.com/sln is the combo
13:10:49 leebaber -> Is there live coverage of the keynote?
13:11:38 mary -> lost audio
13:13:18 ds -> hey crew, anything happening live now
13:13:52 leebaber -> hi
13:14:13 leebaber -> i was hoping the keynote was working
13:14:22 leebaber -> how do we get teh live blog to work for us
13:14:48 leebaber -> i signed in but it does not show my text
13:15:05 ds -> not sure re live blog -- comments need to be moderated/approved
13:15:11 ds -> saw earlier re live blog
13:15:23 leebaber -> funny..they dont we are listening
13:15:31 ds -> but no idea re mechanics
13:15:41 ds -> where are you listening? ustream?
13:15:56 leebaber -> i am on http://edtechtalk.com/sln
13:16:06 leebaber -> where everything is on one page
13:16:08 leebaber -> where are ou
13:16:25 ds -> studio
13:16:31 ds -> will move to sln
13:16:51 ds -> whenever my browser wakes up, brutal day re connection or lack thereof
13:17:43 leebaber -> hi
13:17:47 leebaber -> welcome
13:17:59 leebaber -> we are a fly on the wall right now
13:18:01 ds -> hey again
13:18:17 leebaber -> this is more f un than the real thing
13:19:07 Durff -> i'm seessick
13:21:27 leebaber -> where are you going doug
13:21:52 leebaber -> yes
13:21:58 ds -> @lee what do you mean?
13:22:03 leebaber -> just kidding
13:22:13 leebaber -> your in and out of the room
13:22:27 ds -> other than "crazy" guess I shoulda asked...
13:22:42 leebaber -> hi john
13:22:47 JohnS -> Hi lee
13:22:52 ds -> hey John
13:22:57 JohnS -> Hey Doug
13:23:07 Durff -> i have the market cornered on that one Doug
13:23:28 ds -> @Durff good to know I have company
13:24:04 Durff -> :)
13:24:39 mary -> they're baaaaaaaaaaaaack...
13:24:49 leebaber -> id say
13:25:21 Durff -> how long is Larry's?
13:25:29 ds -> oh, the unconference of it all
13:26:00 leebaber -> bet im more comfortable then they are!
13:28:36 leebaber -> hi jen
13:28:47 mary -> it is uncanny one of the women sounds just like my sister
13:29:24 JohnS -> Is this keynote coming up?
13:29:55 Jen -> yes, momentarily
13:30:27 leebaber -> we had a good time listening to the folks setting up..who did not know we were here!
13:32:31 paul mclean -> we knew
13:33:00 leebaber -> oh... ok
13:33:03 leebaber -> sorry paul
13:33:10 paul mclean -> scroll got the bottom of the page for a better view of larry himselof
13:33:15 paul mclean -> himself
13:33:35 paul mclean -> The top window of more for showing what will be on the computer screen
13:33:49 mary -> good tip
13:33:53 paul mclean -> no problem we wanted people there
13:34:55 alexandra -> http://www.nmc.org/
13:35:35 alexandra -> www.nmc.org/pdf/2006_Horizon_Report.pdf
13:37:52 Durff -> oh that's funny
13:38:09 Hope Windle -> loved that movie as a great teaching tool
13:38:20 paul mclean -> There are two video feeds. The one to the left is mostly for computer screen shots. At the bottom of the page you will see a second video of Larry.
13:40:37 ds -> timing is everything!
13:40:37 Durff -> :)
13:40:58 paul mclean -> Can everyone see both videos
13:41:05 ds -> yes Paul, thanks
13:41:10 Durff -> made me lose my place grading
13:41:11 Eurominuteman -> http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/1924#comment-1484
13:41:48 alexandra -> http://twitter.com/Larry_Pixel
13:43:01 leebaber -> ds.. what was the other page with both vids? im still in http://edtechtalk.com/sln
13:43:09 Eurominuteman -> where is the audio?
13:43:32 JohnS -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/Johnson/JohnsonPres...
13:43:39 Eurominuteman -> i got it
13:43:49 paul mclean -> we are getting udio, try refreshing your page
13:44:36 Durff -> problem solving on the fly
13:45:50 alexandra -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3hge6Bx-4w
13:47:50 Eurominuteman -> @paul what is your google docs email?
13:48:25 leebaber -> .
13:49:03 Table2 -> Hi Granny (from Jen)
13:49:46 paul mclean -> I don't use my google email very much
13:50:09 Eurominuteman -> i would invite you as collaborator
13:50:23 Eurominuteman -> to a google doc
13:50:28 alexandra -> http://www.nmc.org/initiatives
13:50:32 paul mclean -> [email protected]
13:50:40 clark -> NMC website is Drupal
13:50:49 paul mclean -> But I only check it about twice a month
13:51:05 paul mclean -> I use my SUNY mail for just about everything
13:51:09 ds -> gmail filters have given me back a number of email addresses that were useless due to spam
13:51:50 Eurominuteman -> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg9xxrf5_799fs9psg88
13:51:57 Eurominuteman -> click on this
13:52:08 Eurominuteman -> and login to google docs
13:52:29 paul mclean -> can't right now while I am monitoring the the webcast. Not enough bandwidth
13:52:35 Eurominuteman -> ok
13:52:44 paul mclean -> send the link here:
13:52:54 paul mclean -> [email protected]
13:53:35 Eurominuteman -> ok
13:53:56 Eurominuteman -> complete
13:55:41 alexandra -> http://del.icio.us/tag/hz08
13:56:13 Durff -> let's all follow him on twitter and twitter him!
13:56:32 leebaber -> oh durff... the devils coming out in you :)
13:56:35 paul mclean -> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
13:56:54 ds -> resistance is futile
13:57:09 ds -> @Durff you're the best!
13:57:27 leebaber -> stirring up good trouble
13:57:29 JohnS -> Who do you think has been tweeting him for the last 20 minutes? :-)
14:02:00 ds -> @JohnS he mentioned that one o' the tweets from intellagirl
14:02:09 ds -> sp?
14:02:50 ds -> loving the two video feeds--very effective
14:03:21 mary -> i agree ds
14:06:03 alexandra -> http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?id=508919
14:07:07 alexandra -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
14:07:35 ds -> gotta love the cat herders
14:08:56 Durff -> is Jeff on yet?
14:08:57 mary -> .
14:09:18 Table2 -> jen & Jeff go on in about 20 mins
14:09:40 Durff -> thanks
14:11:17 leebaber -> what is the slurl for your location?
14:11:25 leebaber -> or larry's location
14:13:18 Table2 -> teaching8
14:13:23 leebaber -> oops
14:13:27 leebaber -> thanks
14:13:32 Table2 -> he's going to tp you
14:14:29 leebaber -> got it.. t hanks
14:14:45 alexandra -> http://youtube.com/sunylearningnetwork
14:16:47 Hope Windle -> famous data mashup: google maps and Twitter during the LA fires
14:18:38 leebaber -> hello vance
14:18:57 vances -> hi just saw Jeff's tweet, so rare that stuff happens when I'm up
14:19:34 leebaber -> i never saw jeff's tweet! but perhpas it was a while ago
14:19:54 ds -> Hi Vance, dougsymington here, good to see you!
14:20:37 vances -> 1 hr ago per Twitter. Hey Doug, speaking of Twitter, loved your podcasts, delicious'd em
14:21:19 mary -> http://twitter.com/Larry_Pixel
14:24:04 alexandra -> http://www.xobni.com/
14:24:59 ds -> social graph -- love the concept -- social networks anywhere anytime
14:25:09 ds -> FOAF at the network level
14:25:46 mary -> what is FOAF?
14:25:54 ds -> going to be more necessary as traffic/sites increase and identities become more dist
14:26:02 ds -> friend of a friend
14:26:09 ds -> referrals
14:26:14 leebaber -> i believe it fits in to the rhizomatic theory as well ..dont you doug?
14:26:15 mary -> THANKS
14:26:45 vances -> what's a rhizomatic theory?
14:26:45 ds -> don't understand rhizomatic notion from @davecormier enough to say, but yes
14:26:55 ds -> along those lines, I believe
14:27:46 Durff -> teaching 8th grade boys (need i say more?) is JL on yet?
14:27:47 JohnS -> http://rhizomatic.net/
14:28:06 ds -> we need to talk more about "public voice" and what that means in a connected world
14:28:18 ds -> with learners and educators
14:28:44 leebaber -> public voice..ds
14:28:47 leebaber -> say more
14:28:53 ds -> and how these technologies can/do impact how we present to the world
14:28:59 leebaber -> right
14:29:05 leebaber -> so other worlds..not just educ.
14:29:13 ds -> and the fact that our voice is "public" even if we're in our basement typing away
14:29:55 ds -> obvious, but bears noting when speaking of "literacy" in a connected world
14:32:11 agapejen -> did he say zogby?
14:32:23 Table2 -> sounded like that
14:32:28 Hope Windle -> paul, any chance the question can be repeatd
14:33:02 clark -> how to manage logins with so many different systems
14:33:04 paul mclean -> how do you handle multiple password and login problems
14:33:17 clark -> (single sign-on) etc.
14:33:29 alexandra -> http://www.xobni.com/
14:33:38 agapejen -> ahh, cool, thanks alexandra
14:33:49 alexandra -> : )
14:34:47 Durff -> you better record - little kids coming in
14:35:09 leebaber -> good job
14:35:45 vances -> getting dizzy
14:36:49 vances -> I like slide 23
14:37:23 vances -> nice carpet
14:37:26 vances -> I'm outta here
14:38:02 ds -> @vances before you run
14:38:08 vances -> wait Jeff is up
14:38:13 vances -> just saw the program
14:38:14 ds -> check out the 2nd video stream
14:38:20 ds -> scroll down page a bit
14:38:26 ds -> it's not as "fun ride"
14:38:35 vances -> 2nd stream? is that like second life?
14:38:44 ds -> two video feeds
14:38:52 ds -> one on speaker, one on screen
14:39:22 ds -> powerpoint place holder is title for 2nd window, bottom of page
14:39:58 vances -> I'm attentive but not seeing it
14:40:15 JohnS -> Vance: are you on the Suny site?
14:40:31 Eurominuteman -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
14:40:33 vances -> I'm at http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
14:40:42 Eurominuteman -> 2 feeds here
14:40:47 JohnS -> That's why. Switch to the other one to get both videos.
14:41:50 vances -> ok, at rubin stream
14:42:18 vances -> thanks
14:45:06 leebaber -> I have no idea.. :)
14:45:23 Steve Mann -> Sorry, our video is lagging badly.
14:45:38 vances -> mine too
14:46:28 JohnS -> It's snowing in Detroit.
14:46:28 ds -> http://edtechtalk.com/presentations/sln
14:46:33 loonyhiker -> i like multitasking lol
14:46:55 ds -> @JohnS lol sunny in Victoria
14:46:56 vances -> weather in detroit?
14:47:11 Eurominuteman -> weather in germany
14:47:26 vances -> pretty nice here in abu dhabi
14:47:34 Eurominuteman -> 10°C
14:47:56 Eurominuteman -> night time
14:48:22 Hope Windle -> who is runningthe SLN blog?
14:48:45 JohnS -> Oh, good way to do that.
14:48:55 loonyhiker -> i knew 4
14:49:19 ds -> skype yugma twitter feedburner
14:49:37 JohnS -> delicious
14:49:37 ds -> delicious wizq
14:49:44 Hope Windle -> delicious is blocks
14:49:52 JohnS -> last one?
14:49:53 Hope Windle -> what is the bubble?
14:51:21 Hope Windle -> what is technoratti?
14:51:28 mary -> can someone type the list of tools?
14:51:30 ds -> shows that I thnk the technorati icon is/wizq
14:51:47 ds -> the one that looked like a "Q" to me ;)
14:51:52 JohnS -> Technorati is a site that organizes/indexes blogs.
14:52:27 ds -> http://technorati.com/
14:52:47 Durff -> hi guys
14:52:52 alexandra -> feedburnner delicious twitter skype technorati meebo yugma
14:53:22 Durff -> see you but have 4th graders
14:53:25 gketcham -> Great, Alex, a little late though:)
14:53:37 alexandra -> sorry greg...
14:53:44 gketcham -> hee
14:54:12 ds -> did I hear doctoral student -- woot go Jen
14:54:31 mary -> thank you alexandra
14:55:06 alexandra -> it is like interactive talk radio
14:55:26 loonyhiker -> i can't get the slideshare, says it was removed or made private. is this just me?
14:55:52 Hope Windle -> feedburner ..do people like this tool?
14:56:40 gketcham -> I've played with it a bit. Used madeinjapan more for doing the feed burn
14:56:40 alexandra -> http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/webheads.htm
14:56:41 pam youngs -> [b]Larry - you watching?
14:56:50 Larrydugan -> yes
14:57:01 alexandra -> http://edtechtalk.com
14:57:07 ds -> lost the webcammax feed
14:57:20 mary -> me too ds
14:57:37 JohnS -> It's still on. I'm getting audio from it.
14:57:43 Larrydugan -> lag is getting the best of us
14:57:48 mary -> getting audio too
14:57:55 loonyhiker -> audio for me too
14:57:57 Japan430AM -> I'm getting audio, but no video.
14:58:00 ds -> back now
14:58:13 ds -> video that is, had audio throughout
14:58:27 Steve Mann -> Sorry, we're back.
14:58:34 ds -> np, thanks
14:58:53 mary -> you are doing a great job steve mann
14:59:06 ds -> http://webcastacademy.net/tools
15:00:50 ds -> cross germination, and expanding "frame of reference"" is KEY
15:01:07 Hope Windle -> can we see the presentation screen in the top frame
15:01:46 JohnS -> Did Jeff just say his sweatpants add value?
15:02:05 Steve Mann -> Sorry, Hope, we can't channel Jeff's machine into the cast. We he switches the screen, our camera will follow.
15:02:08 JimStoner -> It appears so... :)
15:02:15 alexandra -> yep... i heard that : )
15:02:21 Durff -> oh pooh - i know i'm missing it but i have squirmy 4th grade
15:02:25 Hope Windle -> how is any of the info captured to look up later or is this all about being spontaneous?
15:02:53 JohnS -> Hope: I'm sure it'll get collected at edtechtalk.com, among other places.
15:02:55 alexandra -> we are recording and will make it available later
15:03:00 vances -> after midnight here, it's question of marriage now or podcast later
15:03:12 vances -> actually that's an and
15:03:18 Larrydugan -> "we all live for the moment that works..." I will be using that
15:03:22 JohnS -> Vance, thanks for joining us.
15:03:31 ds -> take care Vance
15:03:34 vances -> my pleasure, great pleasure
15:03:55 vances -> I'll catch this later from my firehose
15:04:04 JohnS -> Absolutely. Go Jen, Go.
15:04:16 vances -> there's slide 23, I thought it was Larry's
15:04:31 vances -> they're near the end i think
15:04:43 Larrydugan -> You go Paul
15:04:44 dean_dyer -> I can't help but wonder how folks find enough time to stay up with all this- I feel old.
15:04:58 ellen-marie -> Yes, I do think much of my professional development comes from my listservs
15:05:04 vances -> you don't need to stay up with all of it
15:05:18 vances -> it's like fishing,you go to the ocean, you throw in a line
15:05:28 vances -> you're happy and sated if you catch one
15:05:37 Larrydugan -> But... jIT learning
15:05:41 dean_dyer -> well, not all the material, just time to try and test the tools-
15:05:42 JohnS -> Vance, yes, but sometimes the fish pulls you in.
15:05:43 vances -> if you get one concept from this, and another tomorrow
15:05:46 vances -> you're up
15:06:02 vances -> and the conversation ... it's like learning a language
15:06:08 vances -> you don't catch it all from one conversation
15:06:18 vances -> after many conversations you start to get the sense of it
15:06:25 lee baber -> Paul
15:06:39 alexandra -> hey... can you all post where you are tuning in from - i am in syracuse, NY
15:06:52 dean_dyer -> Right there with you, alex
15:06:52 JohnS -> Broadview Heights, Ohio
15:06:58 vances -> abu dhabi UAE, land of the midnight hour
15:07:03 loonyhiker -> greenville, sc
15:07:12 JimStoner -> 20' from Alex. :)
15:07:13 lee baber -> Sh
15:07:24 lee baber -> Senandoah Valley, VA
15:07:25 mary -> philadelphia
15:07:41 loonyhiker -> i love when these things are recorded and i can see them when i have time if i can't be here live
15:07:44 vances -> I thought lee was telling us to be quiet :-)
15:07:52 Eurominuteman -> southern gewrmany near switzerland
15:07:57 loonyhiker -> me too, i got quiet lol
15:07:57 Eurominuteman -> germany
15:07:59 Hope Windle -> Stone Ridge, NY 1 hour south of Albany
15:08:24 dean_dyer -> I'm also thinking this was so something I would be doing as a grad student. So out of touch...
15:08:25 Larrydugan -> 10 feet from Alex
15:08:45 ds -> Doug Symington, checking in from Victoria BC
15:11:40 alexandra -> http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/
15:12:23 JohnS -> Well done, guys.
15:12:37 JohnS -> Ask them who the people are. They can probably name all of us.
15:12:42 twitter.com/CharlesKelly -> Japan
15:12:42 katinsl -> Saratoga Springs, NY
15:13:04 ds -> Great job, and hi Jen's mom!
15:13:06 Larrydugan -> small world...
15:13:07 Hope Windle -> and Sherry Chisamore is here with me..
15:13:29 loonyhiker -> social networking over the past month has changed my life! :)
15:13:38 alexandra -> any questions in the chat rooom?
15:14:12 Hope Windle -> trends coming down the pike that they are just get awhiff of?
15:14:45 twitter.com/CharlesKelly -> What software do you use for the "Worldbridges Chat?"
15:15:08 Hope Windle -> ed tech tools seems all part of a groundswell..is the US govt doing anything?
15:15:09 alexandra -> jeff remembers you hope
15:15:15 ds -> what developments do they see for cell or web devices and networking and 'casting
15:15:21 JohnS -> This chat is actually the only commercial software.
15:15:38 JohnS -> http://help.addonchat.com/?id=96827
15:15:45 vances -> nite all (the hour not the company)
15:15:57 ds -> cya Vance, take care
15:16:02 Hope Windle -> and getting to chat during the talk keeps us engaged ...I gotta say...
15:16:28 ds -> @Hope couldn't agree more--back channel really adds to experience
15:16:52 loonyhiker -> why do they not use the ustream chat?
15:17:03 ds -> archiving, or lack thereof
15:17:04 loonyhiker -> oops, he answered that
15:17:58 ds -> tho maybe ustream does archive, but wasn't an option "back in the day"
15:18:17 larry johnson -> here are my slides from the last session:
15:18:24 JohnS -> I think moderation is important.
15:18:38 ds -> point well taken John
15:18:40 twitter.com/CharlesKelly -> An interesting free chat that doesn't require registration to create: http://www.chatmaker.net
15:18:42 JohnS -> You have to put the pieces together.
15:18:49 JohnS -> That's the hard part.
15:20:09 JohnS -> Good point, Jen.
15:20:30 larry johnson -> http://www.slideshare.net/larry.pixel/johnson-sln-2008/
15:21:17 Hope Windle -> ed tech tools seems all part of a groundswell..is the US govt doing anything?
15:21:32 larrydugan -> I hope not...
15:21:53 Hope Windle -> lol lol
15:23:06 Hope Windle -> Has the edtech crew reached out teachers in countries like India and China?
15:23:39 ds -> yes, there have been webcastacademy interns from both India and China
15:24:12 ds -> wonderful job Jeff and Jen, thanks all
15:24:24 ds -> have to run, hope to cya again soon.
15:24:24 loonyhiker -> great job! thanks y'all!
15:24:42 Hope Windle -> is there a cultural / pedagogic approach difference component to webcastacademy?
15:25:16 JohnS -> Great job, guys. You make it look like we know what we're doing :-)
15:25:46 Steve Mann -> The video is down while we change the tape in the camera.
15:27:02 katinsl -> Great job with this webcast SLN! I wish I could stay, but the snow is calling me to ski. enjoy all!
15:27:25 JohnS -> Time for me to go, too. A few still captures: http://www.bbhcsd.org/legacy/files/
15:27:56 Eurominuteman -> lee, do we still meet
15:30:38 JS -> Isn't it great to listen in on the impromptu discussions? It tells you a lot about how the presentation was received and what the people are thinking about.
15:32:36 lee baber -> Euro.. I am still doing the meeting in sl
15:32:43 Eurominuteman -> ok
15:32:44 lee baber -> at my time 4
15:33:40 lee baber -> I have the usteram running fine from sl into http://edtechtalk.com/live
15:34:29 lee baber -> but i am not getting my audio to work .. i am using a second avatar there but cant remember the setup for audio to come through ustream from sl
15:34:33 Eurominuteman -> i see
15:35:24 JL -> THank you all VERY much
15:35:30 JohnS -> Thank you, Jeff.
15:35:44 JohnS -> Be careful driving home.
15:38:11 Eurominuteman -> @lee http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&qu...
15:40:07 Eurominuteman -> http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&qu...
15:40:15 Eurominuteman -> this is better
15:42:30 JohnS -> Okay, guys. Have a nice afternoon.
15:45:13 Eurominuteman -> have a nice time y'all
15:55:51 Durff -> i liked it better when the chat room was higher on the page
16:03:59 Hope Windle -> when is the next session starting?
16:05:00 Durff -> wish i knew too
16:05:07 Hope Windle -> audio is gone
16:06:20 paul mclean -> We are back
16:06:54 paul mclean -> audio is working
16:07:01 Durff -> great!
16:07:19 Durff -> i hear it
16:07:26 Durff -> hi lisa
16:07:42 Lisa M Lane -> hi Durff
16:08:12 mary -> she looks so young
16:08:19 alexandra -> http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~lmcgrat2/
16:09:06 Lisa M Lane -> we don't have IDs either
16:10:16 Durff -> who is speaking?
16:10:28 paul mclean -> Laura Mc
16:10:31 paul mclean -> mc
16:10:34 paul mclean -> Mc
16:10:37 paul mclean -> cant type
16:10:41 paul mclean -> Laura Mc
16:10:45 paul mclean -> McGrath
16:10:52 Durff -> thanks
16:12:24 Lisa M Lane -> looks like the others can also achieve social goals
16:16:22 Lisa M Lane -> you got that right
16:16:49 paul mclean -> can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
16:18:21 mary -> i can
16:19:53 Lisa M Lane -> yes
16:29:00 paul mclean -> You can still see the presenter while the computer screen is up by scrolling down to the second camera at the bottom of the page.
16:29:48 mary -> did she say meebo or what?
16:30:03 mary -> couldn`t hear
16:30:33 Lisa M Lane -> diigo
16:30:36 alexandra -> http://www.diigo.com/
16:30:50 mary -> thanks
16:33:36 paul mclean -> turning the second camera off, we are having bandwidth problems
16:36:28 Lisa M Lane -> I like that idea about authority in web spaces
16:40:55 alexandra -> http://elgg.org/
16:42:52 tcp -> Thanx for the URLs!
16:43:46 alexandra -> any questions for laura
16:43:53 alexandra -> ?
16:44:49 Lisa M Lane -> never ask and they can
16:44:55 Lisa M Lane -> 't say no
16:59:12 paul mclean -> Just turned the second camera at the bottom of the page back on
16:59:22 mary -> great
16:59:40 alexandra -> http://www.teachersdomain.org/
17:00:00 paul mclean -> hope we have the bandwidth to leave it on
17:00:02 alexandra -> that is what is on his screen now
17:04:48 paul mclean -> can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
17:14:15 mary -> i can
17:15:07 mary -> can we use the video clips that are for remixing to build a video to upload to youtube, or are there copyrights?
17:16:28 paul mclean -> I will ask that if there is a question and answer at the end if time permits
17:19:47 mary -> ok
17:19:51 mary -> thank you
17:23:50 mary -> it would be helpful to have a tag whether they are propritary or copyleft
17:24:06 mary -> regarding production rights
17:26:35 lee baber -> what is the link for the two live vid feeds again?
17:27:42 paul mclean -> could someone post that, my machine won't let me copy paste
17:28:19 alexandra -> http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/wise/wise.html
17:28:56 alexandra -> on hte search page that he showed, there was a way to sort by what the rights were to the objects
17:29:10 mary -> thanks
17:34:24 alexandra -> http://www.teachersdomain.org/app.cgi/search/
17:34:33 alexandra -> and click on permitted use
17:35:39 alexandra -> opeions are download, download and share download share and remix
17:35:44 alexandra -> options
17:35:57 mary -> great
17:36:44 alexandra -> on the download page there are also little icons that indicate the permmited uses
17:37:43 alexandra -> http://www.teachersdomain.org/resources/ess05/sci/ess/eiu/astronauts/ind...
17:39:11 alexandra -> question was when will the college editio be available for use
17:39:21 alexandra -> in the next few months
17:40:09 alexandra -> bye everyone
17:40:15 mary -> sound disappeared
17:40:19 mary -> bye and thanks
17:40:19 Durff -> streaming the dinner speaker?
17:41:22 twitter.com/CharlesKelly -> Someone asked: Permitted Uses (All) = http://tinyurl.com/35o6yx
17:42:33 Durff -> watcching what i misssed while teaching
17:55:55 paul mclean -> Yes, we've be resuming the webcast at 7pm for the dinner speaker.
17:56:35 paul mclean -> Until then, you can watch the video of the empty podium and screen.
17:57:03 paul mclean -> The woman on the left of the picture is the dinner speaker. Cecille d'Oliveira.
17:57:15 lee baber -> Thanks Paul
17:57:17 lee baber -> :)
17:57:32 paul mclean -> Actually, this is Steve using Paul's login.
17:57:56 paul mclean -> Paul's gone back to his hotel to walk his dogs.
17:59:27 mary -> where can we review the stream?
18:26:47 Steve -> Ustream once we're done. Exactly when that is, I don't know. I'll ask Paul when he gets back.
19:24:48 mary -> what is the website she mentioned
19:38:07 dougsymington -> hey @Durff, thanks for the tweet
19:43:08 Durff -> but now i can type in chat....weird
19:43:17 Durff -> thanks doug
19:44:45 dougsymington -> hey there
19:44:49 dougsymington -> I've been having some fits too
19:45:05 dougsymington -> have had to refresh page to get chat to work some times lately
19:45:12 dougsymington -> weird is right
19:45:13 Durff -> don't mind me - working on grades
19:45:18 dougsymington -> np
19:45:27 Durff -> :)
19:45:32 dougsymington -> the worst offender for me lately is voicethreads
19:45:45 dougsymington -> can't get it to upload ANYTHING for past couple o days
19:46:00 dougsymington -> had hoped to use it for a final project report, but not looking good
19:46:10 dougsymington -> brb
19:49:51 mary -> i can`t find the website on the web
19:49:58 Durff -> hi mary
19:50:03 mary -> hi
19:50:21 mary -> ive searched on mit open courseware empowering minds
19:50:27 mary -> but nothing
19:50:42 Durff -> MIT?
19:51:00 mary -> yeah
19:51:46 Durff -> hang on
19:52:10 Durff -> http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm
19:52:17 Durff -> you looked there?
19:52:34 mary -> yes thanks
19:53:07 mary -> maybe she is showing a powerpoint presentation instead of navagating a web site
19:53:34 Durff -> http://ocw.mit.edu/nov28/ here?
20:13:15 mary -> good night
20:13:20 mary -> thanks for your help
20:13:22 dougsymington -> night Mary, thanks
20:13:23 Durff -> nite
20:13:43 dougsymington -> great day of programming--even for those of us on the other side of the continent
20:13:52 dougsymington -> take care
20:14:37 mary -> you too thanks