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Chat Logs from the SLN SOL Summit
February 28, 2008
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 09:17:33  paul mclean ->  we will start the first presentation shortly
09:19:45  CK ->  What icon do I click to start listening.  I'm on this page: http://edtechtalk.com/sln
09:20:34  JL ->  Howdy folks
09:20:43  Eurominuteman ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
09:20:57  JL ->  or http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
09:21:59  paul mclean ->  video is dark because the lights in the room were turned down
09:23:05  paul mclean ->  welcome English Teacher and cmitchell
09:24:31  mary ->  interest in what?   i am onlhy half listening since I am multi tasking
09:24:48  EnglishTeacher ->  Can you zoom in a bit more, so we can see the presenter's screen or the presenter?
09:25:13  EnglishTeacher ->  Great1
09:26:17  Eurominuteman ->  a bit more background light might be favorable
09:26:45  paul mclean ->  can't help the lighting, it was requested that the room be dark for this presentation
09:28:03  Eurominuteman ->  it would be nice to test some light from behind the screen
09:29:11  katinsl ->  I have audio (had to go to iTunes), but not video. Do we need the VLC player for video?
09:29:42  Eurominuteman ->  click on the circled arrow
09:29:43  JL ->  no, video should be coming from ustream
09:29:50  paul mclean ->  video should play from ustream.  Try refreshing the page then click the arrow.
09:31:23  Eurominuteman ->  who is zooming?
09:31:27  katinsl ->  I'm sorry, but where is the circled arrow?
09:31:55  paul mclean ->  zoomed in since the room is so dark the only thing you can see is the screenl.
09:32:07  Eurominuteman ->  next to 10 viewers on the botto bar
09:32:15  Eurominuteman ->  bottom
09:32:23  paul mclean ->  There should be an arrow in the upper left hand window
09:32:41  Eurominuteman ->  are you present live
09:32:48  paul mclean ->  I am here live
09:32:49  Eurominuteman ->  on-site
09:32:55  paul mclean ->  on-site
09:33:29  Eurominuteman ->  is jeff on-site too
09:33:33  paul mclean ->  yes
09:33:44  Eurominuteman ->  hi
09:34:03  katinsl ->  I am at the pilot. sln.suny.edu site ... from the summit link that Alex sent ... still looking for the arrow  :/
09:34:38  katinsl ->  I'll try another machine/browser
09:35:40  paul mclean ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
09:35:48  paul mclean ->  use the link I just posted
09:35:57  Eurominuteman ->  it is part of the ustream box, grey color bar
09:36:31  paul mclean ->  hello hope
09:39:16  paul mclean ->  Is the audio clear for everyone?
09:39:29  Eurominuteman ->  germany is ok
09:39:59  paul mclean ->  again, sorry about the video, the lights were turned down in the room.
09:40:34  Eurominuteman ->  use a lighter hehe
09:40:47  katinsl ->  audio is good and I have the video now - on my Mac  :)
09:40:50  paul mclean ->  Maybe I will get my flashlight
09:41:01  paul mclean ->  great katinsi
09:43:10  Eurominuteman ->  is live lighting more visible?
09:43:18  paul mclean ->  not really
09:43:26  Eurominuteman ->  hehe
09:43:29  paul mclean ->  The live on my screen is just as dark
09:44:04  Eurominuteman ->  strange requirement, hehe
09:44:37  Eurominuteman ->  hahaha
09:44:40  EnglishTeacher ->  Audio is good in Japan.
09:46:26  paul mclean ->  can everyone see and hear the movie that is playing?
09:46:33  mary ->  i can
09:46:38  Eurominuteman ->  its ok
09:46:56  mary ->  cutting the stream of water
09:47:02  EnglishTeacher ->  No problem.
09:47:02  mary ->  with scissors
09:49:18  paul mclean ->  that distortion is part of the movie
09:51:33  Eurominuteman ->  my equalizer from the sound card support software gives me some interesting output
09:52:01  paul mclean ->  I had to pull my earphones out
09:52:23  Eurominuteman ->  i am trying all the presets
09:54:33  Hope Windle ->  This is amazing to see the conference from this vantage!
09:55:01  paul mclean ->  Glad you are amazed.
09:55:12  paul mclean ->  and you didn't have to drive in the snow
09:55:27  Eurominuteman ->  equalizer for listening is one side, can you influence the input
09:56:15  Eurominuteman ->  using an equalizer
09:56:20  Hope Windle ->  Who made this movie? Are you on the camera? yeah, we have little hocky puck cars that would have skittered around the road
09:57:21  paul mclean ->  The presenters students made the movie
09:58:51  paul mclean ->  And it appears that we just violated ustream language policy
10:01:16  Eurominuteman ->  how far can you zoom in
10:01:41  paul mclean ->  That is as far as I can zoom\
10:02:24  Eurominuteman ->  are you using a camcorder
10:02:30  paul mclean ->  yes
10:02:32  EnglishTeacher ->  Is the URL at the top of the screen somehow related to this presenter?
10:02:50  paul mclean ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
10:02:56  paul mclean ->  is the page for this presentation
10:03:12  paul mclean ->  Each presentation today has its own page
10:03:32  Eurominuteman ->  how much does the camcorder zoom in numbers
10:04:08  paul mclean ->  don't know
10:04:11  Eurominuteman ->  10x ? 6 x?
10:04:20  Hope Windle ->  I lost audio?
10:04:32  paul mclean ->  refresh the page
10:04:45  Hope Windle ->  got it. Thanks
10:04:54  Eurominuteman ->  is it a 3CCD camcorder?
10:05:23  Eurominuteman ->  or a one CCD
10:05:52  Hope Windle ->  we are seeing the SOL on top of the computer screen page
10:06:04  paul mclean ->  don't have a clue about the camorder
10:06:06  Eurominuteman ->  3CCD means 3 separate chips for each base color
10:06:19  Table2 ->  suspect it's once ccd
10:06:23  paul mclean ->  I point it at the screen
10:06:27  Table2 ->  :)
10:06:57  Hope Windle ->  Still seeing the SOL Summit calendar covering whatever Jon is showingus
10:07:41  paul mclean ->  close your brower then go back in here:
10:07:44  paul mclean ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
10:09:15  EnglishTeacher ->  Will there be other presentations here today? http://ustream.tv/channel/sln-sol-summit
10:09:32  Eurominuteman ->  yes
10:09:35  paul mclean ->  yes
10:09:47  EnglishTeacher ->  Where can I find a schedule?
10:09:59  liliahurteau ->  What about copyright issues when students are taking stuff off the Internet?
10:10:24  Eurominuteman ->  http://edtechtalk.com/sln
10:10:27  Hope Windle ->  just lost audio...
10:10:45  liliahurteau ->  Plus, did he say much about online learning? I thought that is what the conference is about.
10:11:09  Hope Windle ->  online learning internationally
10:11:29  Hope Windle ->  using alternative tools for students to communicate
10:11:41  mary ->  so far he has said that videos are a good way to share cultural information among young students...that is what I got out of it
10:11:47  liliahurteau ->  He talked about making videos for cross-cultural purposes, but he didn't talk about how to incorporate that into an online or blended course.
10:12:21  Hope Windle ->  the videos are the course since the course was about teaching video
10:12:49  Hope Windle ->  the videos helped figure out hwo to communicate BY the medium being taught
10:13:08  Hope Windle ->  but Jon would need to reply more fully
10:13:27  liliahurteau ->  I disagree. There is the technology aspect of learning, and there is the pedagogical aspect. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't talk about pedagogy.
10:13:53  Eurominuteman ->  he talked about cultural shock
10:14:23  Eurominuteman ->  this is an advance perspective
10:15:25  Eurominuteman ->  and about ethnocentrics
10:16:06  paul mclean ->  hello all
10:17:12  Durff ->  hi paul
10:17:24  Durff ->  where is the location of this?
10:20:36  paul mclean ->  Is the video here better than before?
10:21:01  Durff ->  i don't know how it was, but fine now
10:21:15  Durff ->  i'm grading and listening anyway
10:21:16  Eurominuteman ->  the letters are bigger
10:21:22  paul mclean ->  thanks
10:21:58  Eurominuteman ->  if zoom it out on a 19 inch screen it loses resolution
10:22:21  Durff ->  Jeff - i need this course this summer where you teach us how to use WebcamMax or CamTwist
10:22:37  paul mclean ->  This is a direct svideo feed from a computer, not a camera zoom.
10:22:47  Table2 ->  I think Paul will be teaching one :)
10:23:35  paul mclean ->  I need your feedback if it is clearer then the previous presentation which was a camera zoom
10:24:34  paul mclean ->  Now we are using the camera
10:24:51  paul mclean ->  lighting is still now great, but better than earlier
10:25:05  Eurominuteman ->  it is more dynamic due to the lighting
10:25:11  Hope Windle ->  much better. We can actually see Chuck. Jon was too dark we couldn't see him at all
10:25:20  paul mclean ->  I agree
10:25:52  Hope Windle ->  You could actually just show Chuck since we can see his powerpoint below seeing him
10:26:05  Eurominuteman ->  the ceiling lights should be behind the screen
10:26:31  Eurominuteman ->  @durff http://webcastacademy.net/node/1962
10:27:15  alexandra ->  http://www.nosignificantdifference.org/
10:28:42  paul mclean ->  can everyone here the audio?
10:28:50  Eurominuteman ->  great
10:28:50  mary ->  i can
10:29:25  alexandra ->  http://rite.ucf.edu/index.html
10:30:48  Eurominuteman ->  the switch between camcorder and the computer signal for the presentation is a pleasant process
10:32:09  alexandra ->  http://www.if.ucf.edu/
10:34:32  clark ->  hello
10:34:43  alexandra ->  hey clark
10:35:03  clark ->  just checking this out :)
10:36:56  Eurominuteman ->  where is his microphone
10:38:33  paul mclean ->  A usb mic right in front of him
10:40:24  Eurominuteman ->  i see it. i have the same one
10:40:34  paul mclean ->  just turned on the second camera located at the bottom of each presentation page
10:40:46  paul mclean ->  You can see the microphones in that shot
10:40:54  Eurominuteman ->  yes
10:41:21  Hope Windle ->  is there a way to not get bounced out of the chat feature?
10:41:52  JohnS ->  Don't reload the page that the chat is on.
10:42:01  paul mclean ->  Don't know, I have not had a problem
10:43:05  paul mclean ->  can everyone see the second camera shot at the bottom of each presentation page
10:43:16  clark ->  i see no video - what format is it?
10:43:26  Eurominuteman ->  i see it. it has a time lag
10:43:27  paul mclean ->  live.yahoo
10:43:39  Hope Windle ->  is it teeny tiny?
10:43:48  paul mclean ->  yes it does, they are not in sinc since they are comming from two diffrerent servers.
10:43:51  alexandra ->  http://www.if.ucf.edu/
10:44:34  Eurominuteman ->  two videos is also a pleasant process
10:44:43  paul mclean ->  We just wanted to see if we could broadcast to cameras and a computer feed at the same time
10:45:16  Eurominuteman ->  i get both fine. there is just a time lag
10:45:25  paul mclean ->  And it looks like we have succedded
10:45:49  clark ->  oh, there it is, at the bottom!
10:46:03  paul mclean ->  so you can see it, good
10:46:13  clark ->  have to scroll up/down to see chat and video
10:46:44  clark ->  must be another format at the top next to the chat that my Mac can't read?
10:46:48  Hope Windle ->  and if you click on the slide icon, bottome right, you can see where we are in the set of slides...nice feature..
10:46:55  paul mclean ->  Yes, we sill have to design a better page when we do it for real, I am just testing the process right now.
10:47:22  paul mclean ->  Jeff told me about that feature.
10:47:42  paul mclean ->  He will be presenting this afternoon and tell you all about how this stuff works.
10:49:10  paul mclean ->  And we will have a recording of what is on the main window with audioto look at later on.
10:49:44  Eurominuteman ->  i opened 2 windows with 4 video feeds to zoom each stream separately, but i also get 2 audio streams with a lag
10:50:51  clark ->  this is nifty, i can stay in my hotel room :)
10:50:56  Eurominuteman ->  this does not work
10:51:05  clark ->  too lazy to go downstiars
10:51:09  paul mclean ->  what does not work
10:51:39  paul mclean ->  So dark you are upstairs at the hotel here?
10:51:57  Eurominuteman ->   i opened 2 windows with 4 video feeds to zoom each stream separately, but i also get 2 audio streams with a lag
10:52:20  Eurominuteman ->  this does not work conveniently
10:52:23  JohnS ->  If you can switch the second video window with the voicethread, you might be able to fit them both at the same time.
10:52:28  paul mclean ->  If you get the audio from the webcam max window, you should not use the speaker icon.
10:53:17  paul mclean ->  The only automatic audio stream is in the webcam max window.
10:53:19  Eurominuteman ->  i would like 2 video streams on my 2 computer screens, and 1 audio stream
10:53:48  Eurominuteman ->  this would be the best configuration
10:53:55  JohnS ->  You could also use Yugma to b'cast the presentation slides, and optionally ustream them with webcam max.
10:54:16  JohnS ->  Can you broadcast video but no audio on camera2?
10:54:39  Table2 ->  good idea - not sure if Yahoo live has that option, but Ustream does
10:55:06  clark ->  Perhaps a 3 column page at the bottom would work - video on both sides, chat and voicethread in the middle?
10:55:17  paul mclean ->  I already turned the audio off on live.yahoo
10:55:31  paul mclean ->  Now that is a good idea dark
10:55:39  Eurominuteman ->  both videos would need to be embedded in separate windows too
10:56:08  Eurominuteman ->  to zoom out separately
10:56:17  alexandra ->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCJ46vyR9o
10:56:20  clark ->  Ah, I there is a pop-out capability for the chat, that's handy
10:56:55  clark ->  the icon between the speaker/audio and ? help in the chat
10:57:32  guest478 ->  hey edtech dudes.
10:57:46  paul mclean ->  Hello guest478
10:58:04  paul mclean ->  Are you any relation to 476?
10:58:19  guest478 ->  nope... i'm an irritating entity all of my own.
10:59:31  guest478 ->  I don't think my expectations are that clear...
10:59:50  JohnS ->  Hey, 478. Welcome to the party
11:00:10  guest478 ->  I'm also surprised to find myself in the GenX category...
11:00:26  paul mclean ->  I am a yuffy
11:00:42  paul mclean ->  Not a yuppie
11:00:49  paul mclean ->  Young Urban Failure
11:01:15  clark ->  lol
11:01:56  paul mclean ->  But now, now so young
11:02:05  paul mclean ->  So I was a yuffie
11:02:15  paul mclean ->  now I guess I am an Offie
11:02:40  Table2 ->  @guest478 you must be old  ...
11:02:54  mary ->  can he post the link to his website
11:03:15  Eurominuteman ->  2 video streams and 1 audio stream are a good composition
11:03:53  mary ->  can someone post the link her to the presenter`s web site?
11:04:20  alexandra ->   http://rite.ucf.edu/index.html
11:04:29  mary ->  thanks
11:04:51  alexandra ->  http://www.if.ucf.edu/
11:06:59  Eurominuteman ->  i lost the audio
11:07:11  Durff ->  me too
11:08:41  Eurominuteman ->  still no audio
11:10:34  Durff ->  listen using the streams
11:10:51  Eurominuteman ->  i have audio off and on now
11:10:55  guest478 ->  audio0 back
11:11:21  Eurominuteman ->  audio is on now
11:11:24  Durff ->  oh hello dave
11:11:28  guest478 ->  who's people-ing the worldbridges studio?
11:12:13  guest478 ->  I miss doing conferences with Jeff.
11:15:55  guest478 ->  where's my playbyplay commentary
11:18:11  JohnS ->  Jeff misses you, too, 478
11:18:30  paul mclean ->  we will be starting shortly
11:21:24  ds ->  @JenM what time are you and JL on?
11:22:01  mary ->  what is the youtube url for this video (or the name of it so I can find it)?
11:22:04  JohnS ->  Doug: they're on at 2PM Eastern; 2.5 hours from now.
11:22:40  ds ->  thanks John--have to run now, but hope to be back--give them a "break a leg" from me and ttys
11:23:33  guest478 ->  I'm loving the backchatter.
11:25:33  JohnS ->  Too many things on my screen. My scroll wheel is very confused.
11:29:18  paul mclean ->  Video here again is from a camcorder only, no svideo out from the computer.
11:31:55  Hope Windle ->  any way we could get the svideo from the computer?
11:33:18  Jen ->  not when presenters use their own computers - paul has it set up to work for the machine he brought
11:34:17  paul mclean ->  There is not enough time to set up svideo between presentations if they use their own machines
11:34:41  Eurominuteman ->  too bad
11:35:29  paul mclean ->  most have it, but don't know how to use it, and it is diffrent for every type of computer except a mac
11:36:40  alexandra ->  http://www.sunybroome.edu/catalog/academicinfo.html#onac
11:37:20  paul mclean ->  Can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
11:38:19  guest478 ->  yes.
11:40:02  Eurominuteman ->  yes
11:40:51  Eurominuteman ->  what impact does a laser pointer have
11:41:25  paul mclean ->  Not using a lazer pointer here
11:45:01  Eurominuteman ->  this piece of audio was bad within the presentation
11:47:14  paul mclean ->  how is the audio for everyone?
11:47:22  Eurominuteman ->  ok
11:52:04  Eurominuteman ->  ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
11:52:17  katinsl ->  audio is fine for me Paul
11:52:53  Eurominuteman ->  i get a bbbrrrrrrrrr
11:55:02  Eurominuteman ->  no brrrrr now, but i shifted volume levels up now
11:56:27  clark ->  there was bunch of audio hum for a while, but it's fixed
11:56:34  clark ->  (for those not here, so you know)
11:56:38  mary ->  sound is good here
11:56:55  Eurominuteman ->  i quickly shifted the volume down again
11:57:51  Hope Windle ->  the camera is too far away to see the screen
11:59:43  Hope Windle ->  can we zoom into the course on the screen ?
12:00:39  paul mclean ->  I will once he starts talking about what is on the screen
12:02:27  JenM ->  hi lisa
12:02:29  Eurominuteman ->  the letters are too small
12:02:46  paul mclean ->  It is just as hard to see in person
12:07:14  paul mclean ->  The actual audio is as bad as you are hearing
12:07:28  mary ->  ok
12:07:44  LarryDugan ->  Where is the feed url?
12:08:11  JenM ->  ETT interface is at http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
12:08:39  JenM ->  Also at: http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/shareandtell/sharea...
12:09:21  JenM ->  Ustream direct at: http://ustream.tv/suny
12:10:23  LarryDugan ->  Thanks got it, but I should probably not do this from inside the conference room... I am probably causing the stream issue!!
12:12:33  Durff ->  doubt Larry that you are causing any stream issue
12:12:52  Durff ->  now as to being generally disruptive....
12:13:03  Larrydugan ->  he is hard wired... isn't he?
12:13:13  alexandra ->  http://picasaweb.google.com/millerr.newpaltz.edu/SUNYCoursePhotosA
12:13:17  Durff ->  i'm sure
12:16:46  paul mclean ->  can anyone make out what is on the screen
12:17:00  duganls ->  no...
12:17:11  Durff ->  wish i could see his screen directly or larger
12:17:34  Durff ->  looks like his moodle site
12:17:55  alexandra ->  it's blackboard
12:18:10  paul mclean ->  His text is small, and he opened a window that did not fill up the whole page.  I can't control for that
12:18:22  duganls ->  so thats why it hard to use....
12:18:59  paul mclean ->  Everthing is much easier when the presenter uses our machine, but all but one has insisted on using their own computer.
12:19:43  paul mclean ->  So for all of you out there wanting to do this I would recommend insisting that they use your machine unless there is a very good reason not to.
12:20:31  paul mclean ->  The quality suffers so much when you can't control all of what is fedding the streams.
12:21:03  Durff ->  ah challenges of conference-casting
12:21:26  paul mclean ->  If he were using my machine I could have expanded the window and increased the text size.
12:21:46  paul mclean ->  And get an svideo feed that would be much clearer.
12:21:55  Eurominuteman ->  Strg +
12:22:01  Durff ->  the guy this morning was great
12:22:10  alexandra ->  http://www.newpaltz.edu/academics/online.html
12:22:22  JenM ->  @durff .. jeff hasn't gone on, yet :)
12:22:22  paul mclean ->  The one guy who used all our stuff came out great.
12:23:01  Durff ->  JenM - that's what i mean
12:23:14  JenM ->  ;)
12:23:21  Eurominuteman ->  we need to build the requirements more explicit
12:23:42  Durff ->  thanks alexandria!
12:23:51  Eurominuteman ->  requirements management
12:24:13  Durff ->  what time is JL?
12:24:22  alexandra ->  almost time for lunch
12:24:28  JenM ->  2:00 ish
12:24:46  JenM ->  This is JL - I'm just Jen's assistant
12:24:48  alexandra ->  he is suppposed to go at at 1
12:24:52  Durff ->  ooo - computer 8! yes!!
12:24:59  alexandra ->  not 2
12:25:02  Durff ->  2pm?
12:25:11  JenM ->  really?  isn't Larry Johnson on at 1?
12:25:18  Durff ->  1pm?
12:25:30  Durff ->  make up my mind
12:25:33  larrydugan ->  but ... what about lunch?
12:25:44  alexandra ->  yes 1-2pm but we are running late
12:25:52  Durff ->  is this being recorded?
12:25:56  alexandra ->  yes
12:25:58  Durff ->  ustream?
12:26:03  Durff ->  great
12:26:13  alexandra ->  : )
12:26:22  Eurominuteman ->  this guy declared himself to be teacher-centered at the beginning, he kept his promise
12:26:26  paul mclean ->  Larry is listed as 1 on the agenda, but I doubt it will go off at one.
12:26:39  Durff ->  i have 2-2:30 to hear JL
12:27:08  Durff ->  ouch
12:27:55  alexandra ->  the way it looks right now is a start time of about 1:30
12:28:19  Eurominuteman ->  after lunch siesta
12:29:18  Durff ->  i can deal with 1:30!
12:29:41  Eurominuteman ->  i'll have supper
12:30:13  Durff ->  i'll have more lunch
12:33:08  Eurominuteman ->  show us what you're eating
12:33:35  Durff ->  iceberg lettuce salad - not interesting
12:33:55  Durff ->  hi lee
12:34:01  lee baber ->  hi durff
12:34:06  lee baber ->  any streaming on?
12:34:10  Eurominuteman ->  hi lee
12:34:21  lee baber ->  hello james
12:34:41  lee baber ->  i suppose i missed jen and jeff's event?
12:34:43  lee baber ->  or not?
12:34:47  Eurominuteman ->  we will see jeff eating lunch
12:34:59  lee baber ->  is there an all day online coverage?
12:35:06  lee baber ->  oh great
12:35:12  lee baber ->  i like lunch videos
12:35:14  lee baber ->  :)
12:35:22  lee baber ->  where?
12:35:47  Eurominuteman ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
12:36:19  Eurominuteman ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
12:36:53  lee baber ->  OK
12:36:56  lee baber ->  thank you James
12:40:49  lee baber ->  Do you all know what the other video stream is? is that a Red5
12:44:23  lee baber ->  Anyone know where the conference schedule is?
12:51:33  Eurominuteman ->  http://edtechtalk.com/sln
12:58:03  lee baber ->  Now I am on  http://edtechtalk.com/sln but no video..so we should we just use a different site for the video?
12:58:28  lee baber ->  nice live blog and  schedule here
12:59:01  leebaber ->  ok
12:59:23  leebaber ->   http://edtechtalk.com/sln  is the combo
13:10:49  leebaber ->  Is there live coverage of the keynote?
13:11:38  mary ->  lost audio
13:13:18  ds ->  hey crew, anything happening live now
13:13:52  leebaber ->  hi
13:14:13  leebaber ->  i was hoping the keynote was working
13:14:22  leebaber ->  how do we get teh live blog to work for us
13:14:48  leebaber ->  i signed in but it does not show my text
13:15:05  ds ->  not sure re live blog -- comments need to be moderated/approved
13:15:11  ds ->  saw earlier re live blog
13:15:23  leebaber ->  funny..they dont we are listening
13:15:31  ds ->  but no idea re mechanics
13:15:41  ds ->  where are you listening? ustream?
13:15:56  leebaber ->  i am on  http://edtechtalk.com/sln
13:16:06  leebaber ->  where everything is on one page
13:16:08  leebaber ->  where are ou
13:16:25  ds ->  studio
13:16:31  ds ->  will move to sln
13:16:51  ds ->  whenever my browser wakes up, brutal day re connection or lack thereof
13:17:43  leebaber ->  hi
13:17:47  leebaber ->  welcome
13:17:59  leebaber ->  we are a fly on the wall right now
13:18:01  ds ->  hey again
13:18:17  leebaber ->  this is more f un than the real thing
13:19:07  Durff ->  i'm seessick
13:21:27  leebaber ->  where are you going doug
13:21:52  leebaber ->  yes
13:21:58  ds ->  @lee what do you mean?
13:22:03  leebaber ->  just kidding
13:22:13  leebaber ->  your in and out of the room
13:22:27  ds ->  other than "crazy" guess I shoulda asked...
13:22:42  leebaber ->  hi john
13:22:47  JohnS ->  Hi lee
13:22:52  ds ->  hey John
13:22:57  JohnS ->  Hey Doug
13:23:07  Durff ->  i have the market cornered on that one Doug
13:23:28  ds ->  @Durff good to know I have company
13:24:04  Durff ->  :)
13:24:39  mary ->  they're baaaaaaaaaaaaack...
13:24:49  leebaber ->  id say
13:25:21  Durff ->  how long is Larry's?
13:25:29  ds ->  oh, the unconference of it all
13:26:00  leebaber ->  bet im more comfortable then they are!
13:28:36  leebaber ->   hi jen
13:28:47  mary ->  it is uncanny one of the women sounds just like my sister
13:29:24  JohnS ->  Is this keynote coming up?
13:29:55  Jen ->  yes, momentarily
13:30:27  leebaber ->  we had a good time listening to the folks setting up..who did not know we were here!
13:32:31  paul mclean ->  we knew
13:33:00  leebaber ->  oh... ok
13:33:03  leebaber ->  sorry paul
13:33:10  paul mclean ->  scroll got the bottom of the page for a better view of larry himselof
13:33:15  paul mclean ->  himself
13:33:35  paul mclean ->  The top window of more for showing what will be on the computer screen
13:33:49  mary ->  good tip
13:33:53  paul mclean ->  no problem we wanted people there
13:34:55  alexandra ->  http://www.nmc.org/
13:35:35  alexandra ->  www.nmc.org/pdf/2006_Horizon_Report.pdf
13:37:52  Durff ->  oh that's funny
13:38:09  Hope Windle ->  loved that movie as a great teaching tool
13:38:20  paul mclean ->  There are two video feeds.  The one to the left is mostly for computer screen shots.  At the bottom of the page you will see a second video of Larry.
13:40:37  ds ->  timing is everything!
13:40:37  Durff ->  :)
13:40:58  paul mclean ->  Can everyone see both videos
13:41:05  ds ->  yes Paul, thanks
13:41:10  Durff ->  made me lose my place grading
13:41:11  Eurominuteman ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/node/1924#comment-1484
13:41:48  alexandra ->  http://twitter.com/Larry_Pixel
13:43:01  leebaber ->  ds.. what was the other page with both vids? im still in  http://edtechtalk.com/sln
13:43:09  Eurominuteman ->  where is the audio?
13:43:32  JohnS ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/Johnson/JohnsonPres...
13:43:39  Eurominuteman ->  i got it
13:43:49  paul mclean ->  we are getting udio, try refreshing your page
13:44:36  Durff ->  problem solving on the fly
13:45:50  alexandra ->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3hge6Bx-4w
13:47:50  Eurominuteman ->  @paul what is your google docs email?
13:48:25  leebaber ->    .
13:49:03  Table2 ->  Hi Granny (from Jen)
13:49:46  paul mclean ->  I don't use my google email very much
13:50:09  Eurominuteman ->  i would invite you as collaborator
13:50:23  Eurominuteman ->  to a google doc
13:50:28  alexandra ->  http://www.nmc.org/initiatives
13:50:32  paul mclean ->  pamclean171@google.com
13:50:40  clark ->  NMC website is Drupal
13:50:49  paul mclean ->  But I only check it about twice a month
13:51:05  paul mclean ->  I use my SUNY mail for just about everything
13:51:09  ds ->  gmail filters have given me back a number of email addresses that were useless due to spam
13:51:50  Eurominuteman ->  http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg9xxrf5_799fs9psg88
13:51:57  Eurominuteman ->  click on this
13:52:08  Eurominuteman ->  and login to google docs
13:52:29  paul mclean ->  can't right now while I am monitoring the the webcast.  Not enough bandwidth
13:52:35  Eurominuteman ->  ok
13:52:44  paul mclean ->  send the link here:
13:52:54  paul mclean ->  paul.mclean@suny.edu
13:53:35  Eurominuteman ->  ok
13:53:56  Eurominuteman ->  complete
13:55:41  alexandra ->  http://del.icio.us/tag/hz08
13:56:13  Durff ->  let's all follow him on twitter and twitter him!
13:56:32  leebaber ->   oh durff... the devils coming out in you :)
13:56:35  paul mclean ->  noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
13:56:54  ds ->  resistance is futile
13:57:09  ds ->  @Durff you're the best!
13:57:27  leebaber ->  stirring up good trouble
13:57:29  JohnS ->  Who do you think has been tweeting him for the last 20 minutes? :-)
14:02:00  ds ->  @JohnS he mentioned that one o' the tweets from intellagirl
14:02:09  ds ->  sp?
14:02:50  ds ->  loving the two video feeds--very effective
14:03:21  mary ->  i agree ds
14:06:03  alexandra ->  http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?id=508919
14:07:07  alexandra ->  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
14:07:35  ds ->  gotta love the cat herders
14:08:56  Durff ->  is Jeff  on yet?
14:08:57  mary ->  .
14:09:18  Table2 ->  jen & Jeff go on in about 20 mins
14:09:40  Durff ->  thanks
14:11:17  leebaber ->  what is the slurl for your location?
14:11:25  leebaber ->  or larry's location
14:13:18  Table2 ->  teaching8
14:13:23  leebaber ->  oops
14:13:27  leebaber ->  thanks
14:13:32  Table2 ->  he's going to tp you
14:14:29  leebaber ->  got it.. t hanks
14:14:45  alexandra ->  http://youtube.com/sunylearningnetwork
14:16:47  Hope Windle ->  famous data mashup: google maps and Twitter during the LA fires
14:18:38  leebaber ->  hello vance
14:18:57  vances ->  hi just saw Jeff's tweet, so rare that stuff happens when I'm up
14:19:34  leebaber ->  i never saw jeff's tweet! but perhpas it was a while ago
14:19:54  ds ->  Hi Vance, dougsymington here, good to see you!
14:20:37  vances ->  1 hr ago per Twitter.  Hey Doug, speaking of Twitter, loved your podcasts, delicious'd em
14:21:19  mary ->  http://twitter.com/Larry_Pixel
14:24:04  alexandra ->  http://www.xobni.com/
14:24:59  ds ->  social graph -- love the concept -- social networks anywhere anytime
14:25:09  ds ->  FOAF at the network level
14:25:46  mary ->  what is FOAF?
14:25:54  ds ->  going to be more necessary as traffic/sites increase and identities become more dist
14:26:02  ds ->  friend of a friend
14:26:09  ds ->  referrals
14:26:14  leebaber ->  i believe it fits in to the rhizomatic theory as well ..dont you doug?
14:26:15  mary ->  THANKS
14:26:45  vances ->  what's a rhizomatic theory?
14:26:45  ds ->  don't understand rhizomatic notion from @davecormier enough to say, but yes
14:26:55  ds ->  along those lines, I believe
14:27:46  Durff ->  teaching 8th grade boys (need i say more?) is JL on yet?
14:27:47  JohnS ->  http://rhizomatic.net/
14:28:06  ds ->  we need to talk more about "public voice" and what that means in a connected world
14:28:18  ds ->  with learners and educators
14:28:44  leebaber ->  public voice..ds
14:28:47  leebaber ->  say more
14:28:53  ds ->  and how these technologies can/do impact how we present to the world
14:28:59  leebaber ->  right
14:29:05  leebaber ->  so other worlds..not just educ.
14:29:13  ds ->  and the fact that our voice is "public" even if we're in our basement typing away
14:29:55  ds ->  obvious, but bears noting when speaking of "literacy" in a connected world
14:32:11  agapejen ->  did he say zogby?
14:32:23  Table2 ->  sounded like that
14:32:28  Hope Windle ->  paul, any chance the question can be repeatd
14:33:02  clark ->  how to manage logins with so many different systems
14:33:04  paul mclean ->  how do you handle multiple password and login problems
14:33:17  clark ->  (single sign-on) etc.
14:33:29  alexandra ->   http://www.xobni.com/
14:33:38  agapejen ->  ahh, cool, thanks alexandra
14:33:49  alexandra ->  : )
14:34:47  Durff ->  you better record - little kids coming in
14:35:09  leebaber ->  good job
14:35:45  vances ->  getting dizzy
14:36:49  vances ->  I like slide 23
14:37:23  vances ->  nice carpet
14:37:26  vances ->  I'm outta here
14:38:02  ds ->  @vances before you run
14:38:08  vances ->  wait Jeff is up
14:38:13  vances ->  just saw the program
14:38:14  ds ->  check out the 2nd video stream
14:38:20  ds ->  scroll down page a bit
14:38:26  ds ->  it's not as "fun ride"
14:38:35  vances ->  2nd stream? is that like second life?
14:38:44  ds ->  two video feeds
14:38:52  ds ->  one on speaker, one on screen
14:39:22  ds ->  powerpoint place holder is title for 2nd window, bottom of page
14:39:58  vances ->  I'm attentive but not seeing it
14:40:15  JohnS ->  Vance: are you on the Suny site?
14:40:31  Eurominuteman ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/rubin/RubinPresenta...
14:40:33  vances ->  I'm at http://edtechtalk.com/studio/sln
14:40:42  Eurominuteman ->  2 feeds here
14:40:47  JohnS ->  That's why. Switch to the other one to get both videos.
14:41:50  vances ->  ok, at rubin stream
14:42:18  vances ->  thanks
14:45:06  leebaber ->  I have no idea.. :)
14:45:23  Steve Mann ->  Sorry, our video is lagging badly.
14:45:38  vances ->  mine too
14:46:28  JohnS ->  It's snowing in Detroit.
14:46:28  ds ->  http://edtechtalk.com/presentations/sln
14:46:33  loonyhiker ->  i like multitasking lol
14:46:55  ds ->  @JohnS lol sunny in Victoria
14:46:56  vances ->  weather in detroit?
14:47:11  Eurominuteman ->  weather in germany
14:47:26  vances ->  pretty nice here in abu dhabi
14:47:34  Eurominuteman ->  10°C
14:47:56  Eurominuteman ->  night time
14:48:22  Hope Windle ->  who is runningthe SLN blog?
14:48:45  JohnS ->  Oh, good way to do that.
14:48:55  loonyhiker ->  i knew 4
14:49:19  ds ->  skype yugma twitter feedburner
14:49:37  JohnS ->  delicious
14:49:37  ds ->  delicious wizq
14:49:44  Hope Windle ->  delicious is blocks
14:49:52  JohnS ->  last one?
14:49:53  Hope Windle ->  what is the bubble?
14:51:21  Hope Windle ->  what is technoratti?
14:51:28  mary ->  can someone type the list of tools?
14:51:30  ds ->  shows that I thnk the technorati icon is/wizq
14:51:47  ds ->  the one that looked like a "Q" to me ;)
14:51:52  JohnS ->  Technorati is a site that organizes/indexes blogs.
14:52:27  ds ->  http://technorati.com/
14:52:47  Durff ->  hi guys
14:52:52  alexandra ->  feedburnner delicious twitter skype technorati meebo yugma
14:53:22  Durff ->  see you but have 4th graders
14:53:25  gketcham ->  Great, Alex, a little late though:)
14:53:37  alexandra ->  sorry greg...
14:53:44  gketcham ->  hee
14:54:12  ds ->  did I hear doctoral student -- woot go Jen
14:54:31  mary ->  thank you alexandra
14:55:06  alexandra ->  it is like interactive talk radio
14:55:26  loonyhiker ->  i can't get the slideshare, says it was removed or made private. is this just me?
14:55:52  Hope Windle ->  feedburner ..do people like this tool?
14:56:40  gketcham ->  I've played with it a bit. Used madeinjapan more for doing the feed burn
14:56:40  alexandra ->  http://prosites-vstevens.homestead.com/files/efi/webheads.htm
14:56:41  pam youngs ->  [b]Larry - you watching?
14:56:50  Larrydugan ->  yes
14:57:01  alexandra ->  http://edtechtalk.com
14:57:07  ds ->  lost the webcammax feed
14:57:20  mary ->  me too ds
14:57:37  JohnS ->  It's still on. I'm getting audio from it.
14:57:43  Larrydugan ->  lag is getting the best of us
14:57:48  mary ->  getting audio too
14:57:55  loonyhiker ->  audio for me too
14:57:57  Japan430AM ->  I'm getting audio, but no video.
14:58:00  ds ->  back now
14:58:13  ds ->  video that is, had audio throughout
14:58:27  Steve Mann ->  Sorry, we're back.
14:58:34  ds ->  np, thanks
14:58:53  mary ->  you are doing a great job steve mann
14:59:06  ds ->  http://webcastacademy.net/tools
15:00:50  ds ->  cross germination, and expanding "frame of reference"" is KEY
15:01:07  Hope Windle ->  can we see the presentation screen in the top frame
15:01:46  JohnS ->  Did Jeff just say his sweatpants add value?
15:02:05  Steve Mann ->  Sorry, Hope, we can't channel Jeff's machine into the cast. We he switches the screen, our camera will follow.
15:02:08  JimStoner ->  It appears so...  :)
15:02:15  alexandra ->  yep... i heard that : )
15:02:21  Durff ->  oh pooh - i know i'm missing it but i have squirmy 4th grade
15:02:25  Hope Windle ->  how is any of the info captured to look up later or is this all about being spontaneous?
15:02:53  JohnS ->  Hope: I'm sure it'll get collected at edtechtalk.com, among other places.
15:02:55  alexandra ->  we are recording and will make it available later
15:03:00  vances ->  after midnight here, it's question of marriage now or podcast later
15:03:12  vances ->  actually that's an and
15:03:18  Larrydugan ->  "we all live for the moment that works..." I will be using that
15:03:22  JohnS ->  Vance, thanks for joining us.
15:03:31  ds ->  take care Vance
15:03:34  vances ->  my pleasure, great pleasure
15:03:55  vances ->  I'll catch this later from my firehose
15:04:04  JohnS ->  Absolutely. Go Jen, Go.
15:04:16  vances ->  there's slide 23, I thought it was Larry's
15:04:31  vances ->  they're near the end i think
15:04:43  Larrydugan ->  You go Paul
15:04:44  dean_dyer ->  I can't help but wonder how folks find enough time to stay up with all this- I feel old.
15:04:58  ellen-marie ->  Yes, I do think much of my professional development comes from my listservs
15:05:04  vances ->  you don't need to stay up with all of it
15:05:18  vances ->  it's like fishing,you go to the ocean, you throw in a line
15:05:28  vances ->  you're happy and sated if you catch one
15:05:37  Larrydugan ->  But... jIT learning
15:05:41  dean_dyer ->  well, not all the material, just time to try and test the tools-
15:05:42  JohnS ->  Vance, yes, but sometimes the fish pulls you in.
15:05:43  vances ->  if you get one concept from this, and another tomorrow
15:05:46  vances ->  you're up
15:06:02  vances ->  and the conversation ... it's like learning a language
15:06:08  vances ->  you don't catch it all from one conversation
15:06:18  vances ->  after many conversations you start to get the sense of it
15:06:25  lee baber ->  Paul
15:06:39  alexandra ->  hey... can you all post where you are tuning in from - i am in syracuse, NY
15:06:52  dean_dyer ->  Right there with you, alex
15:06:52  JohnS ->  Broadview Heights, Ohio
15:06:58  vances ->  abu dhabi UAE, land of the midnight hour
15:07:03  loonyhiker ->  greenville, sc
15:07:12  JimStoner ->  20' from Alex.  :)
15:07:13  lee baber ->  Sh
15:07:24  lee baber ->  Senandoah Valley, VA
15:07:25  mary ->  philadelphia
15:07:41  loonyhiker ->  i love when these things are recorded and i can see them when i have time if i can't be here live
15:07:44  vances ->  I thought lee was telling us to be quiet :-)
15:07:52  Eurominuteman ->  southern gewrmany near switzerland
15:07:57  loonyhiker ->  me too, i got quiet lol
15:07:57  Eurominuteman ->  germany
15:07:59  Hope Windle ->  Stone Ridge, NY 1 hour south of Albany
15:08:24  dean_dyer ->  I'm also thinking this was so something I would be doing as a grad student.  So out of touch...
15:08:25  Larrydugan ->  10 feet from Alex
15:08:45  ds ->  Doug Symington, checking in from Victoria BC
15:11:40  alexandra ->  http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/
15:12:23  JohnS ->  Well done, guys.
15:12:37  JohnS ->  Ask them who the people are. They can probably name all of us.
15:12:42  twitter.com/CharlesKelly ->  Japan
15:12:42  katinsl ->  Saratoga Springs, NY
15:13:04  ds ->  Great job, and hi Jen's mom!
15:13:06  Larrydugan ->  small world...
15:13:07  Hope Windle ->  and Sherry Chisamore is here with me..
15:13:29  loonyhiker ->  social networking over the past month has changed my life! :)
15:13:38  alexandra ->  any questions in the chat rooom?
15:14:12  Hope Windle ->  trends coming down the pike that they are just get awhiff of?
15:14:45  twitter.com/CharlesKelly ->  What software do you use for the "Worldbridges Chat?"
15:15:08  Hope Windle ->  ed tech tools seems all part of a groundswell..is the US govt doing anything?
15:15:09  alexandra ->  jeff remembers you hope
15:15:15  ds ->  what developments do they see for cell or web devices and networking and 'casting
15:15:21  JohnS ->  This chat is actually the only commercial software.
15:15:38  JohnS ->  http://help.addonchat.com/?id=96827
15:15:45  vances ->  nite all (the hour not the company)
15:15:57  ds ->  cya Vance, take care
15:16:02  Hope Windle ->  and getting to chat during the talk keeps us engaged ...I gotta say...
15:16:28  ds ->  @Hope couldn't agree more--back channel really adds to experience
15:16:52  loonyhiker ->  why do they not use the ustream chat?
15:17:03  ds ->  archiving, or lack thereof
15:17:04  loonyhiker ->  oops, he answered that
15:17:58  ds ->  tho maybe ustream does archive, but wasn't an option "back in the day"
15:18:17  larry johnson ->  here are my slides from the last session:
15:18:24  JohnS ->  I think moderation is important.
15:18:38  ds ->  point well taken John
15:18:40  twitter.com/CharlesKelly ->  An interesting free chat that doesn't require registration to create: http://www.chatmaker.net
15:18:42  JohnS ->  You have to put the pieces together.
15:18:49  JohnS ->  That's the hard part.
15:20:09  JohnS ->  Good point, Jen.
15:20:30  larry johnson ->  http://www.slideshare.net/larry.pixel/johnson-sln-2008/
15:21:17  Hope Windle ->   ed tech tools seems all part of a groundswell..is the US govt doing anything?
15:21:32  larrydugan ->  I hope not...
15:21:53  Hope Windle ->  lol lol
15:23:06  Hope Windle ->  Has the edtech crew reached out teachers in countries like India and China?
15:23:39  ds ->  yes, there have been webcastacademy interns from both India and China
15:24:12  ds ->  wonderful job Jeff and Jen, thanks all
15:24:24  ds ->  have to run, hope to cya again soon.
15:24:24  loonyhiker ->  great job! thanks y'all!
15:24:42  Hope Windle ->  is there a cultural / pedagogic approach difference component to webcastacademy?
15:25:16  JohnS ->  Great job, guys. You make it look like we know what we're doing :-)
15:25:46  Steve Mann ->  The video is down while we change the tape in the camera.
15:27:02  katinsl ->  Great job with this webcast SLN! I wish I could stay, but the snow is calling me to ski.  enjoy all!
15:27:25  JohnS ->  Time for me to go, too. A few still captures: http://www.bbhcsd.org/legacy/files/
15:27:56  Eurominuteman ->  lee, do we still meet
15:30:38  JS ->  Isn't it great to listen in on the impromptu discussions? It tells you a lot about how the presentation was received and what the people are thinking about.
15:32:36  lee baber ->  Euro.. I am still doing the meeting in sl
15:32:43  Eurominuteman ->  ok
15:32:44  lee baber ->  at my time 4
15:33:40  lee baber ->  I have the usteram running fine from sl into http://edtechtalk.com/live
15:34:29  lee baber ->  but i am not getting my audio to work .. i am using a second avatar there but cant remember the setup for audio to come through ustream from sl
15:34:33  Eurominuteman ->  i see
15:35:24  JL ->  THank you all VERY much
15:35:30  JohnS ->  Thank you, Jeff.
15:35:44  JohnS ->  Be careful driving home.
15:38:11  Eurominuteman ->  @lee http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&qu...
15:40:07  Eurominuteman ->  http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&qu...
15:40:15  Eurominuteman ->  this is better
15:42:30  JohnS ->  Okay, guys. Have a nice afternoon.
15:45:13  Eurominuteman ->  have a nice time y'all
15:55:51  Durff ->  i liked it better when the chat room was higher on the page
16:03:59  Hope Windle ->  when is the next session starting?
16:05:00  Durff ->  wish i knew too
16:05:07  Hope Windle ->  audio is gone
16:06:20  paul mclean ->  We are back
16:06:54  paul mclean ->  audio is working
16:07:01  Durff ->  great!
16:07:19  Durff ->  i hear it
16:07:26  Durff ->  hi lisa
16:07:42  Lisa M Lane ->  hi Durff
16:08:12  mary ->  she looks so young
16:08:19  alexandra ->  http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~lmcgrat2/
16:09:06  Lisa M Lane ->  we don't have IDs either
16:10:16  Durff ->  who is speaking?
16:10:28  paul mclean ->  Laura Mc
16:10:31  paul mclean ->  mc
16:10:34  paul mclean ->  Mc
16:10:37  paul mclean ->  cant type
16:10:41  paul mclean ->  Laura Mc
16:10:45  paul mclean ->  McGrath
16:10:52  Durff ->  thanks
16:12:24  Lisa M Lane ->  looks like the others can also achieve social goals
16:16:22  Lisa M Lane ->  you got that right
16:16:49  paul mclean ->  can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
16:18:21  mary ->  i can
16:19:53  Lisa M Lane ->  yes
16:29:00  paul mclean ->  You can still see the presenter while the computer screen is up by scrolling down to the second camera at the bottom of the page.
16:29:48  mary ->  did she say meebo or what?
16:30:03  mary ->  couldn`t hear
16:30:33  Lisa M Lane ->  diigo
16:30:36  alexandra ->  http://www.diigo.com/
16:30:50  mary ->  thanks
16:33:36  paul mclean ->  turning the second camera off, we are having bandwidth problems
16:36:28  Lisa M Lane ->  I like that idea about authority in web spaces
16:40:55  alexandra ->  http://elgg.org/
16:42:52  tcp ->  Thanx for the URLs!  
16:43:46  alexandra ->  any questions for laura
16:43:53  alexandra ->  ?
16:44:49  Lisa M Lane ->  never ask and they can
16:44:55  Lisa M Lane ->  't say no
16:59:12  paul mclean ->  Just turned the second camera at the bottom of the page back on
16:59:22  mary ->  great
16:59:40  alexandra ->  http://www.teachersdomain.org/
17:00:00  paul mclean ->  hope we have the bandwidth to leave it on
17:00:02  alexandra ->  that is what is on his screen now
17:04:48  paul mclean ->  can everyone see the video and hear the audio?
17:14:15  mary ->  i can
17:15:07  mary ->  can we use the video clips that are for remixing to build a video to upload to youtube, or are there copyrights?
17:16:28  paul mclean ->  I will ask that if there is a question and answer at the end if time permits
17:19:47  mary ->  ok
17:19:51  mary ->  thank you
17:23:50  mary ->  it would be helpful to have a tag whether they are propritary or copyleft
17:24:06  mary ->  regarding production rights
17:26:35  lee baber ->  what is the link for the two live vid feeds again?
17:27:42  paul mclean ->  could someone post that, my machine won't let me copy paste
17:28:19  alexandra ->  http://pilot.sln.suny.edu/documentation/ANGEL/summit/wise/wise.html
17:28:56  alexandra ->  on hte search page that he showed, there was a way to sort by what the rights were to the objects
17:29:10  mary ->  thanks
17:34:24  alexandra ->  http://www.teachersdomain.org/app.cgi/search/
17:34:33  alexandra ->  and click on permitted use
17:35:39  alexandra ->  opeions are download, download and share download share and remix
17:35:44  alexandra ->  options
17:35:57  mary ->  great
17:36:44  alexandra ->  on the download page there are also little icons that indicate the permmited uses
17:37:43  alexandra ->  http://www.teachersdomain.org/resources/ess05/sci/ess/eiu/astronauts/ind...
17:39:11  alexandra ->  question was when will the college editio be available for use
17:39:21  alexandra ->  in the next few months
17:40:09  alexandra ->  bye everyone
17:40:15  mary ->  sound disappeared
17:40:19  mary ->  bye and thanks
17:40:19  Durff ->  streaming the dinner speaker?
17:41:22  twitter.com/CharlesKelly ->  Someone asked: Permitted Uses (All) = http://tinyurl.com/35o6yx
17:42:33  Durff ->  watcching what i misssed while teaching
17:55:55  paul mclean ->  Yes, we've be resuming the webcast at 7pm for the dinner speaker.
17:56:35  paul mclean ->  Until then, you can watch the video of the empty podium and screen.
17:57:03  paul mclean ->  The woman on the left of the picture is the dinner speaker. Cecille d'Oliveira.
17:57:15  lee baber ->  Thanks Paul
17:57:17  lee baber ->  :)
17:57:32  paul mclean ->  Actually, this is Steve using Paul's login.
17:57:56  paul mclean ->  Paul's gone back to his hotel to walk his dogs.
17:59:27  mary ->  where can we review the stream?
18:26:47  Steve ->  Ustream once we're done. Exactly when that is, I don't know. I'll ask Paul when he gets back.
19:24:48  mary ->  what is the website she mentioned
19:38:07  dougsymington ->  hey @Durff, thanks for the tweet
19:43:08  Durff ->  but now i can type in chat....weird
19:43:17  Durff ->  thanks doug
19:44:45  dougsymington ->  hey there
19:44:49  dougsymington ->  I've been having some fits too
19:45:05  dougsymington ->  have had to refresh page to get chat to work some times lately
19:45:12  dougsymington ->  weird is right
19:45:13  Durff ->  don't mind me - working on grades
19:45:18  dougsymington ->  np
19:45:27  Durff ->  :)
19:45:32  dougsymington ->  the worst offender for me lately is voicethreads
19:45:45  dougsymington ->  can't get it to upload ANYTHING for past couple o days
19:46:00  dougsymington ->  had hoped to use it for a final project report, but not looking good
19:46:10  dougsymington ->  brb
19:49:51  mary ->  i can`t find the website on the web
19:49:58  Durff ->  hi mary
19:50:03  mary ->  hi
19:50:21  mary ->  ive searched on  mit open courseware empowering minds
19:50:27  mary ->  but nothing
19:50:42  Durff ->  MIT?
19:51:00  mary ->  yeah
19:51:46  Durff ->  hang on
19:52:10  Durff ->  http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm
19:52:17  Durff ->  you looked there?
19:52:34  mary ->  yes thanks
19:53:07  mary ->  maybe she is showing a powerpoint presentation instead of navagating a web site
19:53:34  Durff ->  http://ocw.mit.edu/nov28/ here?
20:13:15  mary ->  good night
20:13:20  mary ->  thanks for your help
20:13:22  dougsymington ->  night Mary, thanks
20:13:23  Durff ->  nite
20:13:43  dougsymington ->  great day of programming--even for those of us on the other side of the continent
20:13:52  dougsymington ->  take care
20:14:37  mary ->  you too thanks



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