Women of Web 2.0 Show # 69
Welcome to Show 69, for Women of Web 2.0. Our guest Patrick Higgins joins us tonight in a great conversation about Diigo, teaching and the passion for teaching and how to increase technology use in our classrooms through a supportive network.
Chat: with all the great links!
20:42:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Getting ready!
20:50:02 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: getting ready to go live
20:52:26 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: how is the sound
20:53:53 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello just starting the stream
20:53:59 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm hearing you :-)
20:54:33 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I can only stay a short time because I have a neighborhood association meeting but I didn't want to miss out.
20:55:14 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: glad to see you Peggy
20:55:38 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl, Jen & Sharon--anyone else there?
20:56:18 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: getting the countdown
20:56:48 misst2 -> -EdTechTalk: Good evening everyone
20:57:04 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello all. glad you are here
20:57:26 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi coletteC
20:57:53 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Jen-you need to stop tweeting about that fabulous food--makes me drool and none of it is on my diet!! Painful!
20:57:56 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: hello :)
20:59:00 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Smiles Peggy -- it is going to be a great night
20:59:06 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I will be stuffed :)
20:59:27 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mb6XLunYtIE
20:59:35 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm not trusting any links I get today due to April Fools! :-)
20:59:43 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: smart!
20:59:50 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: we promise to be VERY VERY good with links
21:00:00 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Kristin's session was awesome today and is posted.
21:00:04 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Alice
21:00:09 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy -- Link please
21:00:14 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy, please share!
21:00:18 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: hi there!
21:00:35 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello jeffmason, welcome
21:00:53 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Allowing Diigo to Play Nice with del.icio.us http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ahjrstnd78fn_138bzzxsdp
21:01:05 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: thanks
21:01:06 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: hello cheryloaks
21:01:10 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Kristin's conversation - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/openpd
21:01:12 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome Cheri, glad you are here
21:01:16 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: hey Cheri, four responses in half an hour!!
21:01:29 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - they like you best
21:01:35 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl
21:01:56 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: webslides sound wonderful for teacher presentations
21:02:15 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy -- it is just such an easy way to show screen shots
21:02:26 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Absolutely!
21:02:44 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome EVERYONE to our SHOW tonight with Patrick Higgins
21:02:50 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: You can find all our links at
21:03:03 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://del.icio.us/WOW2.0/wow2_20080401
21:03:13 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Please choose your COLORS for tonights show -- far left icon
21:03:20 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm thinking about creating a list on Diigo for things I might want to blog about and keep it private--sites, highlighted points and my comments so I can find them later
21:03:34 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: That is a good idea Peggy
21:03:53 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Do you think it will work?
21:04:05 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG QhT great ideA!
21:04:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://yuuguu.com
21:04:18 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.twiddla.com/Home.aspx
21:04:21 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: yuuguu is desktop sharing for windows and mac
21:04:27 ffoxworth -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG I might try that too.
21:04:31 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.tnttips.com/
21:04:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://tappedin.org/tappedin/do/CalendarAction a great calendar of events for the month
21:05:10 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
21:05:25 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Lorna, jeannine, sue roseman!
21:05:30 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, Twiddla! That was one I was hoping your'd share! Love it!
21:05:40 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: hi Cheryl
21:05:41 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl
21:05:52 jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Hello!
21:05:54 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy--- you will need to tell me more -- it is brand new to me
21:05:56 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jeanniene
21:05:59 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome to EVERYONE!!!
21:06:01 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.needleworkspictures.com/ocr/blog/?p=289
21:06:24 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I don't see that last WOW on the delicious links for today-mz?
21:06:27 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: ha ha
21:06:35 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/offline-access-to-google-docs.html
21:06:36 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Remember that all our links area at http://del.icio.us/WOW2.0/wow2_20080401
21:06:37 jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lorna
21:06:40 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: That one worried me - students would use it for not-so-good things
21:06:52 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: it is the TNT link
21:06:57 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Teaching and Technology
21:07:17 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi Lindanitsche, welcome
21:07:23 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @JenWagner-thanks- got it :-)
21:07:28 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and ---- check out our website later this week -- I am doing a MAJOR update tomorrow!!!
21:07:36 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome dsj
21:07:38 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: welcome Linda and DSJ
21:07:49 ffoxworth -> -EdTechTalk: When I try to copy and paste links from here, they don't paste and open. Any suggestions?
21:07:49 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Maureen/bcdtech
21:07:53 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: And welcome to our guest Patrick Higgins
21:08:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello ffoxworth
21:08:18 Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all
21:08:27 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I think I heard about it. Is it Google gears?
21:08:28 dsj -> -EdTechTalk: zoho
21:08:32 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://chalkdust101.wordpress.com/
21:08:37 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick's Blog
21:08:37 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Thinkfree
21:08:51 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21...
21:08:53 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: ffoxworth, on a mac if I click on links I get bumped out, so I usually type them
21:09:06 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @ffoxworth - it only works for me if I click on the links in the chat
21:09:17 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://21stcenturylearning.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/10-principles-f.html
21:09:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: sometimes I can use a combination with control, option or apple, but not always consistent for me.
21:09:30 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Some links that Patrick wanted to share with us
21:09:30 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick's School -- http://www.sparta.org/spartatps/site/default.asp
21:09:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello erhubbell welcome
21:10:12 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello mmkrill, welcome
21:10:20 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello James.
21:10:28 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Michelle
21:10:35 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Jen, I missed your Wow..what was the link
21:10:37 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: If you have questions for Patrick -- please post them to the chat room!!!
21:10:43 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sue -- I had 3 -- just a second
21:10:50 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hi
21:10:52 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.twiddla.com/Home.aspx
21:11:05 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.tnttips.com/
21:11:13 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and the 3rd was the GOOGLE APRIL FOOL'S JOKE
21:11:32 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html
21:11:36 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Jen
21:11:55 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Everything is on our delicious account at -- http://del.icio.us/WOW2.0/wow2_20080401
21:11:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It's such a challenge to find the appropriate tools to match the curriculum!
21:12:10 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Pedagogy and technology tools go hand-in-hand
21:12:42 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21...
21:12:49 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick's Google Notebook
21:12:52 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @James.Sigler-absolutely but so often the focus is on the tools
21:13:20 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome back FFoxworth
21:13:43 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy It should be the opposite, the focus should be on the pedagogy
21:13:50 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Lisa!!! Good to see you!!
21:13:54 ffoxworth -> -EdTechTalk: I tried typing in the URL, and that works but kicks me out of this discussion.
21:14:10 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @James.Sigler-I completely agree!
21:14:10 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi Jen
21:14:32 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: lol
21:14:52 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick, is going to go through his google notebook as he is talking. www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21tYAj
21:15:17 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello lori
21:15:39 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome AnneC
21:15:41 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21... patricks notebook he is referring to now
21:16:15 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: How is your district showing teachers that they are allowed to risk trying new technologies?
21:16:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello dlaufenberg and anne c
21:17:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Shaun, Ryan, you are being talked about!
21:17:09 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Ryan -- Patrick just dropped your name!!
21:17:59 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: hello all
21:18:04 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: great ideas for prof development
21:18:05 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Lori --
21:18:10 shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: hello
21:18:19 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi Lori! Good to have you here
21:18:27 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: vox pox
21:18:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Shaun!
21:18:39 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hey DLaufenberg -- congrats on the new job!!!
21:18:40 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Many teachers want to know the steps in integrating technology
21:18:44 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Ryan, were your ears ringing?
21:18:54 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: It's good to see learning 2.0 spell that out
21:18:56 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Charlene!!!
21:19:15 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Love the idea of creating a community for your early adopters--they are tapped so frequently to support newbies and it's like having a special gifted class to nurture them through their peers
21:19:17 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Jen and everyone!
21:19:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello charlenen!
21:19:34 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I say that all the time - they don't know what they don't know
21:19:37 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: teachers need to trust the technology too
21:19:56 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy - this list looks very doable too!
21:20:14 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: welcome Lorna
21:20:32 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Lorna!
21:20:36 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: Amen to that!
21:20:38 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Jen wandered away for a sec
21:20:46 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Let Patrick know, do you consider yourself new to using web tools, a pro, or someone still learning!
21:20:50 mmkrill -> -EdTechTalk: We have the small community of early adopters in place...
21:20:50 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Network Learning - nice term
21:20:54 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I am still learning.
21:21:03 mmkrill -> -EdTechTalk: but now I think we need to go for the tentative ones
21:21:04 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff Hellllo
21:21:06 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: always learning here cheryl
21:21:08 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: lifelong learning
21:21:13 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Definitely still learning- always learning!
21:21:15 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello durff,
21:21:17 mmkrill -> -EdTechTalk: and support them in their learning and risk taking
21:21:32 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes - how about another Google Spreadsheet survey? :)
21:21:48 erhubbell -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Diana! We met on the Learning 2.0 conversation Sunday night. Good to see you again!
21:21:50 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: that would be a good thing to put in the survey, right?
21:22:00 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: like survey
21:22:10 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Cheri --- didnt see you slip in
21:22:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: ok, i'll see what i can do.
21:22:52 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @JenWagner - been here for a while ... you're just a busy gal :)
21:23:09 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I you say that one tool is the only way, then you have stopping growing, and technology changes will leave you behind
21:23:23 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: That is excellent that a voice like Patrick's was at ASCD.
21:23:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: right James, we need to continue searching out th e tools.
21:23:43 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Please explain ASCD
21:23:57 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Good teaching is good teaching, no matter how you slice it
21:23:58 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: We need more technologists that are all over the network to be attending and presenting at conferences like that
21:24:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Association for Supervision Curriculum Development
21:24:11 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: ty
21:24:18 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I agree, Ryan
21:24:23 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Yep -- very much so Ryan
21:24:27 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: righards
21:24:28 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Dennis Richards
21:24:38 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: So sad--have to leave for my meeting. Patrick is awesome! I'll have to listen to the podcast. Thanks everyone.
21:24:47 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy -- thanks for stopping by
21:24:48 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: bye peggy
21:25:12 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: May 1 is the deadline for those ASCD presentations
21:25:26 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Last 2 months of Ed Leadership has ben awesome!
21:25:47 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: is that the journal? alice
21:25:50 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Not as much research on tech because research takes time and by then the tech has changed
21:25:52 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: YEs
21:26:02 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: http://newlearning.ning.com
21:26:03 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks alice
21:26:06 erhubbell -> -EdTechTalk: I noticed that a call for proposals flyer at ASCD particularly asked for technology
21:26:08 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: from Dennis
21:26:25 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello than po rter
21:26:58 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - can you say backchannel study - ASCD
21:27:06 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.ascd.org/portal/site/ascd/menuitem.c00a836e7622024fb85516f762...
21:27:08 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: great idea!
21:27:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks alice!
21:27:15 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: by May 1???
21:27:25 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: we can make a proposal!
21:27:31 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: where is ASCD next year, anyone?
21:27:32 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hope i don't ignore anyone - working feverishly to finish lesson plans for tomorrow (love Notestar btw)
21:27:40 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello pchod10
21:27:51 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: hello
21:28:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello david
21:28:10 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: The Marzano technology Book is excellent!
21:28:11 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: in Orlando
21:28:12 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: we did a whole study of marzano last year
21:28:14 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: we're good under pressure :)
21:28:28 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: We use Art and Science of TEaching in PLC's
21:28:32 djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl
21:28:33 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I reading Marzano now
21:28:36 erhubbell -> -EdTechTalk: @alicebarr Marzano wrote the foreward
21:28:42 erhubbell -> -EdTechTalk: :)
21:28:55 than porter -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for the welcome Cheryl
21:29:20 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Any questions for Patrick??
21:29:29 mmkrill -> -EdTechTalk: My district will only allow one out of district presentation at a conference!
21:29:57 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://gets.gc.k12.va.us/VSTE/2008/ presentor Sherri Miller
21:30:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: he was at Educon? Did I meet him?
21:30:39 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Durff -- are you asking about Patrick??
21:30:42 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Question: what type of ed tech skills do new teachers come into your district with?
21:30:45 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hiLesley
21:30:51 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Were you in David's class -- he sat on the far side by the windows
21:30:54 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: @cherylOakes Steph presented at ASCD on podcasting
21:30:55 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes jen
21:30:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello wendy, welcome
21:30:59 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: that is where we met him
21:31:05 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: he would now if we met
21:31:15 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: sweet, for Steph @ alice, let's put a proposal in for next year
21:31:17 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Sorry I'm late.
21:31:19 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hope we did - he sounds interesting
21:31:28 Lesley -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff - Hi!
21:31:32 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Wendy -- glad you are here
21:31:33 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Yes and Stephanie Sandifer has another one, wait I'll find it
21:31:41 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jen.
21:31:41 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: marzano? no
21:31:49 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: WEndy, not to worry, the podcast and whole chat will be ready by Thurs. so you can catch up.
21:31:54 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it was full
21:31:59 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi kristin
21:32:10 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: great Open PD earlier
21:32:12 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I like 1-4
21:32:15 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hi kristin, glad to see you here.
21:32:19 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: hi all
21:32:20 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: We are looking at that 1 - 4 Exceeds, Meets , Does not Meet
21:32:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: back to work....................
21:32:30 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Kristin -- a lot of people talked about your DIIGO meeting today
21:32:48 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: :) thanks
21:32:50 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: @CheriT - student teacher now in my school was very comfortable with using web sites on a projector and ppt - more than the classroom teacher
21:32:53 anneclemieux -> -EdTechTalk: Open Pd do they podcast them
21:33:00 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: sorry I am late...topic
21:33:08 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: http://web2thatworks.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
21:33:18 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: @anne they are not podcast as we do over ustream but it is archived
21:33:28 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: C is no longer and average grade, so A,B,C,D,F is increasingly meaningless
21:33:31 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: http://openpd.wikispaces.com/diigo
21:33:41 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2007/09/is-it-okay-to-be-technologicall...
21:33:44 anneclemieux -> -EdTechTalk: I can gt 2 it from the wiki
21:33:45 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @kristin - school change and the future of teaching
21:33:47 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: talking about this link
21:33:51 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.tltguide.ccsd.k12.co.us/instructional_tools/Strategies/Strate...
21:33:56 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: got it
21:34:00 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: patrick higgins is our guest tonight
21:34:12 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @lori a - thanks
21:34:13 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: we have been doing PSSAS this week :(
21:34:17 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: all 11th graders
21:34:29 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: 3 hours in teh am for 3 days
21:34:37 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: while everyone else gets to stay home
21:34:47 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, state level tests this week and next week.
21:34:50 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: ugh
21:35:17 ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21...
21:35:31 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Entire schedule is changed for two weeks at the elementary level- not much teaching going on.
21:35:54 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.thethinkingstick.com/?p=623 this is the next one.
21:36:08 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: I think we need to start doing DIFFERENT THINGS vs doing things differently
21:36:09 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: That's the first element of the NETS-Teachers draft - facilitate and inspire creativity
21:36:33 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: right on kristin, we need to promote that
21:36:35 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: we are all jealous of them
21:36:35 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @linda - haven't forgotten your request for info on media literacy
21:36:36 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: I think that is the KEY
21:36:45 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: when you ask...what do they talk about
21:36:59 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: in these model schools.... THEY ARE TALKING
21:37:02 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: thanks @Sharon
21:37:04 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: asked for permission from the folks at the ministry of ed today to pass on the bibiliography and resources from their booklet
21:37:10 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://the21stcenturyschool.wikispaces.com/Presentation looking at this while planning
21:37:35 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: like SLA...they make the time to do that the time is written in
21:38:22 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: www.eol.org where students can add information
21:38:28 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: doing that as he speaks
21:38:39 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: good timing huh durff
21:39:02 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: http://tinyurl.com/2ud5ky - link for ISTE NETS standards for teachers
21:40:16 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: several of us here did a town forum on the teacher NETS last month
21:40:39 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: one more class to do - all online classblogs
21:40:39 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I've just started a wikijunior book as a part of a class project on Famous Inventors
21:41:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello brad and dwsutherland, welcome
21:41:16 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: need refill on the coffe fuel & cookies first
21:41:27 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: get me a coffee too durff
21:42:15 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: I was actually at the same discussion that Joyce Valenza wrote about today re copyright and fair use
21:42:25 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: am working on my blog as we speak
21:42:37 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: multi tasking in good company kristin
21:42:46 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: lost the audio though :(
21:42:48 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: In Google we trust....
21:42:51 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: Is Patrick still around or did I miss him because Chef Gordon Ramsey was on?
21:43:03 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick is here and chatting.
21:43:10 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Will the A: drove go the path of the B: drive?
21:43:52 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: kristin in a master-multi-tasker
21:43:59 djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Jakesonline.org
21:44:03 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: ok got the stream back
21:44:04 djakes -> -EdTechTalk: hahahaha
21:44:19 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: and do you keep all your data ONLY at jakesonline.org?? Probably not
21:44:24 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it's feed jakes people!
21:44:25 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: back up back up back up
21:44:35 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: serve up the PRN
21:44:40 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Flixn went away with a video introduction that I made.
21:44:42 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: Hello PChod
21:44:45 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lesley, missed you sneaking in. welcome
21:44:53 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: but then I over save -- I have cd's, online storage, flashdrive, and external harddrive
21:45:00 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: is there supposed to be audio?
21:45:02 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello there
21:45:06 dwsutherland -> -EdTechTalk: yup
21:45:10 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: only 1 external HD Jen?
21:45:13 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: yes there is
21:45:15 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Brad there is audio
21:45:20 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: I guess I need to back up my blog, my class page, my wiki and my class wiki
21:45:20 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: my district didn't back up for awhile and one of the schools' servers crashed - lots several months of teachers documents -
21:45:20 dwsutherland -> -EdTechTalk: Click on the speaker on the right side of the screen - open in itunes
21:45:22 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Charlenes -- LOL -- sadly -- yes
21:45:24 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: yes brad, go to ETTA and listen through itunes
21:45:35 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: should open in iTunses
21:45:37 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Flixn is coming back soon, Wendy
21:45:58 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: you can listen in itunes, real player, windows media
21:46:03 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.flixn.com/
21:46:07 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: I have CD's burned and lots of flash drives and a firewire drive
21:46:10 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: got it thanks
21:46:20 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: lost my data one time
21:46:23 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: That's what they say. I wonder if my video will still be there? :-)
21:46:35 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: now I back up everything
21:46:43 Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: the ryerson example is a good example
21:47:05 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: They share online why wouldn't they share their work?
21:47:08 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i had 7th graders who lost theirs because they didn't follow directions to save to a flash drive
21:47:17 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i think they learned
21:47:18 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: I actually found Darren's video hosed on another site without a reference to his reasources :(
21:47:19 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: There was a student suspended for collaboration online
21:47:33 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Steal This Film - Provocative angle on copyright and IP http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Part2/
21:47:41 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff -- but then they blame the "stupid" computer :-)
21:47:42 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: http://21stcenturylearning.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/10-principles-f.html
21:47:57 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Patrick is discussing this link from Sheryl NB now
21:48:04 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: all, i mean ALL, students i have are enccourage to collaborate online
21:48:18 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/309855
21:48:28 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no charlene - the stupid server
21:48:44 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: I think the BEST way is if it happens through conversation
21:48:56 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Top vision and support; Bottom up passion, energy, and ripples
21:48:59 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: they think in terms of the network of the school
21:48:59 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: ALL parties have to be involved
21:49:01 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: as a general rule teacher initiatives are allowed but not supported
21:49:03 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: that too.. it's never "their" fault
21:49:10 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: It works much better when it works both ways. It can't be an either/or
21:49:18 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: and it has to be full admin support
21:49:26 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: if admin supports it or requrires it then more change happens
21:49:29 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: WOW, just got an email from OLPC telling me my XO was on the way.... it was delivered last week!
21:49:30 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Has to be bottoms up AND top down.
21:49:34 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: yes kristin, that support is cruical
21:49:54 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Technology intergration requires effort from the teachers, but technology from admin
21:50:10 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: really?
21:50:13 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: and technology must be reliable
21:50:15 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: full administrative support from admin that is excited about learning themselves and using tech tools for the right reasons
21:50:22 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: you mean the admin should support me?
21:50:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: we adopted standards for teachers where they should be able to demonstrate the same things we expect our students at that grade level.
21:50:30 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i better tell them!
21:50:36 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: @charlene - you mean not 10 years old
21:50:39 than porter -> -EdTechTalk: Change from within the classroom with admin support gets us there.
21:50:48 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Teacher leaders are important ambassadors. Admin can add the exclamation mark. Admin also provide resources and support.
21:51:06 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @cheri - 5 reponses!
21:51:19 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Admin provide resources? really?
21:51:24 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: it can be reliable and old :)
21:51:25 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: that doesn't work either
21:51:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: again, i better tell them
21:51:31 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Top-down only does create resentment
21:51:33 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: it is all about building a good team
21:51:50 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: too often we throw new technology at old problems and gt the old results
21:51:53 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: that is why the cofino, medved, utecht team....works so well
21:51:59 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - blththththth
21:52:03 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: it is support supporting support :)
21:52:07 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: :-)
21:52:12 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: I agree Brad
21:52:18 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: lol
21:52:21 than porter -> -EdTechTalk: Admin push down not successful! But how to get admin up to speed and on board has been difficult with technology.
21:52:23 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: we went down that road years ago
21:52:30 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: and tied it to salary
21:52:32 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: :D
21:52:33 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: say again cheryl
21:52:53 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: How would admin know if it was being done well if they can't don't use it themselves?
21:53:00 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: start small...
21:53:02 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Agree that admin push down alone does NOT work.
21:53:03 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: thanks
21:53:12 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Both teachers and admin are passionate for students
21:53:20 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: Admin need to start modeling this process. When that happens, coversations begin. Then it is not top-down or bottom-up. It is peer pressure and change from all directions
21:53:22 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: but linda my kids can do what the admins cannot
21:53:25 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: You have to show what is working for students
21:53:28 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: that is just it lindanitsche, our administrators are promoting the use for staff and themselves.
21:53:33 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: find personal value in the accomplishment
21:53:43 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: or = nor
21:53:48 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: At the college level - student pressure is going to push faculty to change
21:53:54 than porter -> -EdTechTalk: Teachers need to try it out so that they are comfortable. Playing is good.
21:54:05 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes cheri
21:54:20 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Our Admin attend the Web 2.0 Consortium meetings and learn right next to the teachers. Sends powerful message.
21:54:28 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: my point exactly lindanitsche we admins must be excited about using the tech ourselvs not using tech for tech's sake but for authentic learning experiences
21:54:30 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: we taught database merge a few years ago before xmas to help with holiday cards
21:54:31 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Teachers need to see examples of how it is being used in the classroom
21:54:34 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: when pre-service teachers are using tech in one or two classes, they want to do the same in others, so they ask the prof
21:54:38 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: same strategy for hooking our students!
21:54:49 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: the term "digital" may frighten them off
21:55:08 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: change the terminology
21:55:16 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: Interesting way to get teachers excited about in-service classes
21:55:17 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: avoid the t word
21:55:21 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lucy
21:55:23 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Good idea
21:55:24 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I use online social spaces
21:55:28 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Cheri
21:55:33 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: or something
21:55:34 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: yes tech should be embedded its a given
21:55:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: yes, this is how to hook teachers find their passion and a new way to engage the learners
21:55:43 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Lucy! welcome
21:55:43 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i show the kids and they back to classrooms excited - teachers want it then
21:55:47 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: A colleague told me never to use the name of a software package in a workshop title either
21:55:58 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: good point Lucy
21:56:01 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: 3rd grade today was just like that
21:56:23 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: composition
21:56:31 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: edu-connectivity
21:56:37 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i use that word too
21:56:46 pchod10 -> -EdTechTalk: instead of blogging
21:56:50 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Parents do the same thing when we teachers use educationese
21:56:52 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: relevance!!
21:57:17 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: does anyone remember where that conversation was -- OH
21:57:18 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I know -
21:57:20 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: It was CUE
21:57:22 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: prior knowledge
21:57:22 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: just a second
21:57:41 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, and Google Custom Time. :)
21:57:51 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: yes too much too fast Pat
21:57:52 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Just using the right term can make the right connection with someone's personal schema
21:58:12 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i will when i have time (Diigo)
21:58:27 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Here is the link to the conversation at CUE -- http://jenuinetech.com/blog/?p=174
21:58:37 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: it really was a very good panel discussion
21:58:44 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: James - it's all about a relationship
21:58:47 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely, James, we all need to find the hook and something to build on
21:58:59 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: great advice from Patrick...
21:59:00 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Yes. I signed up for a Diigo account, but have not had time to explore. I'm seeing it everywhere.
21:59:32 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: wendy, I am enrolled and waiting for good tutorials, like the ones kristin is doing!
21:59:34 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Wendy - friend kristin on diigo
21:59:55 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Friend me Wendy
21:59:59 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: hello ssandifer, emapey
22:00:01 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: be the change you want to see in the world
22:00:07 ssandifer -> -EdTechTalk: Howdy!
22:00:16 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi sandifer
22:00:25 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: creating and encouraging students to find the right tool at the right time as well
22:00:29 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Will do!
22:00:34 ssandifer -> -EdTechTalk: is there any audio, or did I miss it?
22:00:39 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: anyone get a room count?
22:00:43 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Its about the teaching, not which is the perfect tool
22:00:47 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: brad, yes for teachers and students find the right tool, with purpose
22:00:55 Brad -> -EdTechTalk: that is the type of student we need to create
22:01:09 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: that' would be great
22:01:39 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Al Gore?
22:01:55 ssandifer -> -EdTechTalk: got it -- thanks
22:02:00 emapey -> -EdTechTalk: Hi!
22:02:07 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: He might already be booked on Earth Day
22:02:14 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi emapey
22:02:17 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: Great show ladies!
22:02:22 erhubbell -> -EdTechTalk: Wendy Richardson?
22:02:23 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Ryan -- thanks so much
22:02:25 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: we have a full month of April!
22:02:27 ffoxworth -> -EdTechTalk: This has been great! Thanks.
22:02:28 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: excellent everyone!!
22:02:31 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: a what?
22:02:36 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: goodness
22:02:47 than porter -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all!
22:02:55 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Cool! I'll be there!
22:03:04 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: COOL~!
22:03:11 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: can you put the link back in for Patrick's Google Notebook
22:03:15 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: right up my alley with games
22:03:33 lori a -> -EdTechTalk: thanks all
22:03:39 ryanbretag -> -EdTechTalk: 'night all! Thanks Patrick for your insights
22:03:40 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Wendy Drexler
22:03:40 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: May flowers
22:03:41 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Great conversation!
22:03:53 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: bye ryan
22:03:56 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: just a sec Cheri
22:04:00 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I need to go grab it
22:04:00 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: good job Patrick
22:04:04 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21...
22:04:12 Wendy -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you!!!!
22:04:15 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: thanks!!
22:04:23 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite Cheri
22:04:25 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for all listening to this great conversation with Patrick.
22:04:36 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: thnx 2 u
22:04:41 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes thank you Patrick
22:04:43 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: Nitey night
22:04:44 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.google.com/notebook/public/12178437923996777820/BDQJESgoQ5Y21...
22:04:45 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: thanks ... you rock!!
22:04:48 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: great converstions
22:04:50 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for a great show! :)
22:04:53 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite charlene
22:04:56 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks all! Fantastic!
22:05:04 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite linda
22:05:06 khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: great SHOW Patrick
22:05:08 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: April Fool's
22:05:21 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite kristin
22:05:26 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: Oh sorry I can't make the 15th...
22:05:28 shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: thank you
22:05:53 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Lucy -- APril FOols or Really??
22:05:55 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: cheri - what are you april fooling?
22:05:55 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: April Fool's... if you're reading this, ladies. :)
22:05:58 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: LOLOL
22:06:00 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: ll
22:06:01 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: lol
22:06:02 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: smiles thought so
22:06:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: whew lucy, I was just in a panic
22:06:07 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: I am NOT gullible tonight
22:06:11 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i am so lost
22:06:11 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: I was checking the calendar
22:06:15 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: Cheryl seems to be though
22:06:16 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: I'm so lame... I couldn't think of anything more creative
22:06:17 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: lol
22:06:23 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: nite all,
22:06:24 LucyGray -> -EdTechTalk: Night all!
22:06:29 cheryloakes wow2 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks secretelf
22:06:29 JenWagner -> -EdTechTalk: good night
22:06:30 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite lucy
22:06:34 Charlene C -> -EdTechTalk: nite
22:06:37 ssandifer -> -EdTechTalk: goodnight
22:06:38 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: haha Lucy
22:06:48 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: nite laddies!
22:06:48 James.Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: night
22:06:58 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: sharon - how many now?
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