This show focused on using Web 2.0 tools to connect parentsto the classroom. The beginnings of the development of a platform to demonstrate how these tools and social networking tools can be used with parents and by parents in supporting student success.

Lorna Costantini, educationial consultant in St. CatharinesON CA http://ourschool.ca. Matt Montagne.teacher University School of Milwaukee, Milwuakee Wisconsin http://middleschoolblog.blogspot.com/ Rhoda Cipparone, Faux Real Niagara Falls ON  Cindy Zautcke, Maquion Wisconsin resident parent  http:livingontheline.wordpress.com  welcomed guest Steve Hargadon, from Classroom 2.0 http://classroom20.com

Steve shared his insights on how to use Web 2.0 tools.

Chat Log

2008-04-14 20:48:13 [Message]SteveHargadon -> -EdTechTalk: Is this working for everyone?

2008-04-14 20:55:32 [Message]czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Testing

2008-04-14 20:56:58 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey everyone...we'll get rolling in a fewminutes

2008-04-14 20:58:10 [Message]Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: ty Durf

2008-04-14 20:59:13 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: $5

2008-04-14 21:03:01 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome Jeannine, penross and loria!

2008-04-14 21:03:11 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: hi

2008-04-14 21:03:30 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: hello from NB

2008-04-14 21:03:32 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi loria

2008-04-14 21:03:38 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi jeannine

2008-04-14 21:03:41 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: I"m in IL

2008-04-14 21:03:49 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: I need to change that from penross to Penny

2008-04-14 21:03:52 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: hi Durf

2008-04-14 21:04:01 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi julia

2008-04-14 21:04:15 [Message]Julia Tebbets -> -EdTechTalk: Hello!

2008-04-14 21:04:19 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi mtaft

2008-04-14 21:04:28 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi montgorp

2008-04-14 21:04:28 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: hey folks

2008-04-14 21:04:30 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone

2008-04-14 21:04:38 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi maureen

2008-04-14 21:04:42 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi tony

2008-04-14 21:04:55 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone

2008-04-14 21:05:09 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi harold

2008-04-14 21:05:14 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi derrall

2008-04-14 21:05:21 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: Hi from Maine

2008-04-14 21:05:22 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi durff

2008-04-14 21:05:24 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: you know me as fsinfo on twitter

2008-04-14 21:05:26 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: :)

2008-04-14 21:05:28 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: hi from alberta

2008-04-14 21:05:37 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes loria i do

2008-04-14 21:05:42 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: hi derall

2008-04-14 21:05:44 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: hi from alberta too!

2008-04-14 21:05:50 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: jakes is in the house!

2008-04-14 21:05:57 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: hi durf

2008-04-14 21:05:59 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: he mtaft

2008-04-14 21:06:00 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: salute!!

2008-04-14 21:06:01 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: go flames

2008-04-14 21:06:07 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome chuck T

2008-04-14 21:06:12 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: yo matt

2008-04-14 21:06:15 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi peggy

2008-04-14 21:06:17 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: sorry abtf

2008-04-14 21:06:17 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: go red wing

2008-04-14 21:06:20 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi montgorp

2008-04-14 21:06:23 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: red wings, that is

2008-04-14 21:06:26 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: should I have audio yet?

2008-04-14 21:06:29 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: "any but the flames"

2008-04-14 21:06:30 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes

2008-04-14 21:06:31 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @everyone-Chuck is our awsome 8th gradehistory teacher at the school I work at

2008-04-14 21:06:35 [Message]czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: HiMtaft--glad to have you join us!

2008-04-14 21:06:39 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: go Red Wings!

2008-04-14 21:06:41 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes - heard you were at an Apple store

2008-04-14 21:06:46 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cindy

2008-04-14 21:06:51 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Hi from Chicago suburbs!

2008-04-14 21:06:52 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey djakes

2008-04-14 21:07:02 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Apple Schmapple

2008-04-14 21:07:14 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Does ustream have sound or should we just use audiostream?

2008-04-14 21:07:14 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Matt, in Milwaukee

2008-04-14 21:07:25 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Couldn't figure out the right time to join. Came anhour ago. :-)

2008-04-14 21:07:26 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: no ustrea

2008-04-14 21:07:31 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes...we're going to be happy when you getyour macbook air

2008-04-14 21:07:35 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes Sorry they were not nice to you at theApple store today...

2008-04-14 21:07:36 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: i use iTunes - first audio button

2008-04-14 21:07:45 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi shaun

2008-04-14 21:07:49 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: hi

2008-04-14 21:07:52 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: i listen using real player

2008-04-14 21:07:58 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes Can't believe you're deserting me and other right clickers.

2008-04-14 21:08:01 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Hi shaun

2008-04-14 21:08:10 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: hi russell

2008-04-14 21:08:12 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: djakes is fickle

2008-04-14 21:08:17 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: hi Steve

2008-04-14 21:08:18 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I've got audio using itunes

2008-04-14 21:08:18 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: @lparisi-not

2008-04-14 21:08:20 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @lisap you're next

2008-04-14 21:08:23 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: hello steve

2008-04-14 21:08:32 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg Next laptop

2008-04-14 21:08:43 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: maybe

2008-04-14 21:08:52 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: need java

2008-04-14 21:08:55 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: refresh

2008-04-14 21:08:59 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: try safari

2008-04-14 21:09:03 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: true

2008-04-14 21:09:10 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: sometimes firefox on mac doesn't like chat

2008-04-14 21:09:13 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey derralg...you are supposed to be on vacation

2008-04-14 21:09:22 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Always great to collaborate with Steve! :-)

2008-04-14 21:09:31 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: he isn't it would seen

2008-04-14 21:09:34 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: seem

2008-04-14 21:09:35 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: vista doesn't like chat much either - untillatest update

2008-04-14 21:09:38 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I'm on a Macbook Pro using firefox for chat anditunes for audio

2008-04-14 21:09:42 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt I know I followed twitter and here I am :)

2008-04-14 21:09:46 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: working fine

2008-04-14 21:10:05 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: @cindseibel vista works really well for me haven'thad any probs - lucky

2008-04-14 21:10:07 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Yay Classroom 2.0

2008-04-14 21:10:11 [Message]loria -> -EdTechTalk: I;m using firefox too, but I had to update java andset a rosetta pref

2008-04-14 21:10:32 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: now I'm on my mac

2008-04-14 21:10:33 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: using Flock

2008-04-14 21:11:38 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: echo

2008-04-14 21:11:42 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm always surprised when excellent teachers say"what's web 2.0?" We have a lot of work to do still. :-)

2008-04-14 21:11:57 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: echo

2008-04-14 21:11:58 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Thought that echo was ME! WHew!

2008-04-14 21:12:01 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG I don't even ask the question

2008-04-14 21:12:09 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello montgorp and harold...thanks for joiningin!

2008-04-14 21:12:20 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt

2008-04-14 21:12:33 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: everyone go invite a parent here now

2008-04-14 21:12:36 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i did

2008-04-14 21:12:41 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I don't ask the question but when I keep talkingabout it they ask me. :-)

2008-04-14 21:12:50 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: i did a little web 2.0 with my daughters schooltoday, no idea what i was talking about

2008-04-14 21:12:55 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I'm glad to hear the rationale for Classroom 2.0

2008-04-14 21:13:00 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi sylvia

2008-04-14 21:13:01 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I am a parent and a Classroom 2.0 user. Others?

2008-04-14 21:13:07 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: here teachers were baffled

2008-04-14 21:13:18 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: yea classroom 2.0

2008-04-14 21:13:19 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I'd not heard that rationale, either, until now.

2008-04-14 21:13:30 [Message]czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: I am--I'm the "resident parent" on theprogram.

2008-04-14 21:13:33 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: ok kmulford - now go invite another parent

2008-04-14 21:13:40 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: hi durff

2008-04-14 21:13:48 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @durff. I'm on holidays. No access to parents :(

2008-04-14 21:13:52 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: parent, teacher, web 2.o user

2008-04-14 21:13:53 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: Parent, teacher and cL2.0 user

2008-04-14 21:14:04 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: cope out montgorp

2008-04-14 21:14:08 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @russell what time is it for you?

2008-04-14 21:14:09 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi bob

2008-04-14 21:14:12 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I'm at home with 2 sick kids... sorry. Maybe via Twitter...

2008-04-14 21:14:14 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: parent, technologist, web 2.0user

2008-04-14 21:14:20 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: :)

2008-04-14 21:14:24 [Message]bob -> -EdTechTalk: hi Durff, first time parent here

2008-04-14 21:14:24 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yea twitter

2008-04-14 21:14:26 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Excellent background explanation!

2008-04-14 21:14:34 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Linda

2008-04-14 21:14:40 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: parent advocate web 2.0 user

2008-04-14 21:14:42 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: ok bob you're off the hook

2008-04-14 21:14:55 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: parent, ed council chair, web 2.0 user

2008-04-14 21:14:57 [Message]bob -> -EdTechTalk: oh no, hooks for a first time user, my goodness :)

2008-04-14 21:14:59 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: ok... give me a solid reason to go chase a parent:)

2008-04-14 21:15:07 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: HI

2008-04-14 21:15:08 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: no one wants to be on durff's hook

2008-04-14 21:15:19 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: harold grandparent, special ed teacher web2.0 newbie(6 mos)

2008-04-14 21:15:23 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: and hey, I'm a parent too

2008-04-14 21:15:41 [Message]bob -> -EdTechTalk: txs all, b back when more time - sorry for butting in -bye

2008-04-14 21:15:48 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: I thought she had a laser pointer..hook too?!!

2008-04-14 21:16:07 [Message] kmulford-> -EdTechTalk: OK, shouted out to my Twitter verse. Good?

2008-04-14 21:16:21 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Durff, who are you on Twitter?

2008-04-14 21:16:22 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes most people seem to be comfortable with email.

2008-04-14 21:16:31 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, derall, its a sharp hook :o

2008-04-14 21:16:40 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Here Comes Everybody is a GREAT book!

2008-04-14 21:16:58 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: waiting for it to arrive from my local library

2008-04-14 21:17:05 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: yes kmulford 0 talking 3with studernr noe

2008-04-14 21:17:06 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: email given up by kids, but still good for usadults

2008-04-14 21:17:10 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: who here is primarily a parent (not a teacher)

2008-04-14 21:17:16 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: "Everybody has e-mail." Not all theparents in MY district!

2008-04-14 21:17:20 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy -- but there is so much junk -- how do yousift through?

2008-04-14 21:17:33 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I'm ALWAYS a parent FIRST, teacher second...

2008-04-14 21:17:38 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think people are more comfortable with a moreprivate communication.

2008-04-14 21:18:11 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: matt... you can;t take off you edtech hat

2008-04-14 21:18:14 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It's the openness of a bog or social community thatcan be scary to parents.

2008-04-14 21:18:26 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: bogs are wet

2008-04-14 21:18:30 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Not bog--blog :-(

2008-04-14 21:18:38 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: and scarrrrrry

2008-04-14 21:18:45 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: I can see that when it is specific about a student

2008-04-14 21:18:52 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: i want to say that my parents love getting regularemail updates from me

2008-04-14 21:18:56 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: but so much better for announcements

2008-04-14 21:19:06 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: hard to get back to the email

2008-04-14 21:19:13 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: when you can't remember

2008-04-14 21:19:20 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: and ai use a blog to keep parents up to date

2008-04-14 21:19:21 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: email is so slow :)

2008-04-14 21:19:44 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Email doesn't require a response though

2008-04-14 21:19:47 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I've recently seen ajust a very FEW admins(principals) using blogs effectively...

2008-04-14 21:20:13 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: exposed to what?

2008-04-14 21:20:20 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: A blog doesn' "require" a response....

2008-04-14 21:20:23 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Blogging is interactive with a community whilejournaling is a personal reflection without any other audience

2008-04-14 21:21:02 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: my parents blog at http://heymrmont.edublogs.org

2008-04-14 21:21:08 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: support blogging:  http://supportblogging.com/

2008-04-14 21:21:15 [Message]kwhobbes -> -EdTechTalk: @kmulford, what do you mean by"effectively"

2008-04-14 21:21:20 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: too often we are placing our ideas on"privacy" and "value" and not the next generations values

2008-04-14 21:21:33 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @kmulford-that is so true but there is an expectationof 2-way communication on a blog--even though it's fine to just read it

2008-04-14 21:21:39 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @kwhobbes was wondering if you were going torespond :)

2008-04-14 21:21:54 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Blogging enables us to learn from one another.

2008-04-14 21:22:12 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: blogging connects with an authentic audience

2008-04-14 21:22:26 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: Blogging is getting other perspectives and ideas thatare different than "we speak"

2008-04-14 21:22:40 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: 7th grader telling me what i ought to be doing

2008-04-14 21:22:43 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Blogging also, very simply, makes writing practicemore enticing, therefore children are more willing to do it.

2008-04-14 21:22:51 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome lisa harrison!

2008-04-14 21:22:53 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: WOW. Your PARENTS blog? How COOL are you? Obviouslyyou are from UK or AU or NZ... "Maths" was a giveaway

2008-04-14 21:22:57 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: as a middle school maths teacher it is hard to finda pretext for blogging

2008-04-14 21:23:00 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i have created a monster

2008-04-14 21:23:11 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: blogging with my students that is

2008-04-14 21:23:18 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: But it's a friendly monster  :-)

2008-04-14 21:23:19 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm being a little of a devil's advocate here becauseI am so totally committed to all forms of web 2.0 communication but there arestill a lot of people/parents/teachers sho don't understand or see the value.That's our job--to help them learn and understand.

2008-04-14 21:23:23 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Doug

2008-04-14 21:23:24 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp There are great math blogs out there.

2008-04-14 21:23:28 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: parent bloggers...drop your blog links in thewindow

2008-04-14 21:23:33 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: so I am currently looking for an easy way for kidsto do maths on a blog

2008-04-14 21:23:41 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi doug

2008-04-14 21:23:57 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: hi derallg and Durff, and all

2008-04-14 21:23:59 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Voicethread is a great way to get started with mathcommunication.

2008-04-14 21:24:03 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: They can only "understand" if they haveexperienced. And that requires CREATING a positive experience.

2008-04-14 21:24:03 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: NY Times article:http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/assessing-the-dangers-of-the-internet-for-children/

2008-04-14 21:24:12 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Knowing that a real person- beyond a teacherwill read your ideas is a powerfullly motivating factor for student writing.

2008-04-14 21:24:33 [Message]kwhobbes -> -EdTechTalk: @kmulford - waht do you mean with administratorswho are "experienced"?

2008-04-14 21:24:49 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: math is a bit harder because of the symbols - but youcan use it to have students talk about math.

2008-04-14 21:24:50 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @kmulford--yes! just a single positive experience canmake a tremendous difference!

2008-04-14 21:24:50 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: @Linda very true

2008-04-14 21:25:20 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey dougsy...gettng fired up forearthcast08??!!

2008-04-14 21:25:22 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: but a negative experience scares the bejessums outtoo many and gets a lot more press than a 1,000 good experience

2008-04-14 21:25:24 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi colettec

2008-04-14 21:25:40 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I'm hearing you guys withmaths blogs and voicethread... but I have not seen anything that is not merely literacy in maths. Iam looking to develop numeracy

2008-04-14 21:25:42 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: @matt I am

2008-04-14 21:25:46 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: http://web20parents.blogspot.com

2008-04-14 21:25:56 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: That single experience can significantly impact,for life!

2008-04-14 21:26:15 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: yep one time can be life changing

2008-04-14 21:26:21 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: my attempt at parent blogging

2008-04-14 21:26:28 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: What's that buzz on the audio? Someone's cell onvibrate?

2008-04-14 21:26:29 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp Can you explain what you mean?

2008-04-14 21:26:34 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: Hello all : )

2008-04-14 21:26:36 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: steve's phone

2008-04-14 21:26:41 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp-have you seen the math247 mathcasts usingvoicethread?

2008-04-14 21:26:45 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Kevin

2008-04-14 21:26:48 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp the programming language scratch has someembeded community tools

2008-04-14 21:27:00 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Encourage parents to join the Parents asPartners Facebook Group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13136746541

2008-04-14 21:27:04 [Message]SteveHargadon -> -EdTechTalk: Now turned off.  :)

2008-04-14 21:27:11 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: :)

2008-04-14 21:27:16 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: TechMom, thanks! Subscribed...

2008-04-14 21:27:19 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Wascart and Julia Tebbets...welcome toPAP

2008-04-14 21:27:38 [Message]wascart -> -EdTechTalk: Hello

2008-04-14 21:27:58 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks shaun

2008-04-14 21:28:02 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: The big hook for us will be a calendar

2008-04-14 21:28:10 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: it's value added for the parent

2008-04-14 21:28:14 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: something they want

2008-04-14 21:28:18 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @Steve You ARE a very popular guy, we know. Loveya.

2008-04-14 21:28:32 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: is it more important to get email from teacheror from district?  think I know theanswer but

2008-04-14 21:28:50 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: teacher

2008-04-14 21:28:51 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: OMG the TEACHER!

2008-04-14 21:28:54 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hear that all the time

2008-04-14 21:29:02 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Go from email to wikis where they can see theirchildren's work in school. Then get them to engage in adding ideas to the wiki.It works!

2008-04-14 21:29:12 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: good question Lorna - Rhoda commented earlierabout quick response?

2008-04-14 21:29:16 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: @montgrop you're welcome

2008-04-14 21:29:36 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That makes a lot of sense to move from email towikis! baby steps

2008-04-14 21:29:38 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I use email with parents... I do mail merge

2008-04-14 21:29:39 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: we partner with parents

2008-04-14 21:29:50 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that teacher is...!!...mtaft!!!

2008-04-14 21:29:51 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: 'casts -- video and audio/pod can be good --this show as a good example

2008-04-14 21:29:53 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: District is big and impersonal. Teacher is MYcontact, connected to MY kid, feedback is relevant!!!

2008-04-14 21:29:59 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: parents are teacher's customers and we need to useany means necessary to enhance our relationships with them. 

2008-04-14 21:30:13 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I use both... blog and email.

2008-04-14 21:30:24 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, but you are the exception....

2008-04-14 21:30:33 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I have used bulk sms as well to communicate parents

2008-04-14 21:30:57 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: How cool would it be if we could get a marginalpercentage each year to try to use both?

2008-04-14 21:31:05 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp are they all connected or justmost?

2008-04-14 21:31:16 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @harold agreed but I see it more as communitybuilding

2008-04-14 21:31:25 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: can augment their experince in really powerfulways...gr8 point Cindy!!

2008-04-14 21:31:40 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: shaun... about 98%

2008-04-14 21:31:41 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp - here are some of Lisa Parisi's mathvoicethreads that give you a good idea of how you can use VT -http://tinyurl.com/3clo7x

2008-04-14 21:31:45 [Message]shaun fletcher -> -EdTechTalk: wow

2008-04-14 21:31:55 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I have every email address except one

2008-04-14 21:32:07 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Then again, equity gets in the way. In manydistricts, there are not computers in each home... and as mentioned before,using computers @ work can be dodgy for some parents.

2008-04-14 21:32:07 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: got bounced good to be back

2008-04-14 21:32:14 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: mr 5 here brb

2008-04-14 21:32:16 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg that's still just talking about math.powerful, but incomplete

2008-04-14 21:32:54 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That's because @montgorp asked about how tocommunicate about math in a blog

2008-04-14 21:33:11 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: yes!!! - Districts will come up with $$ if parentssee value in the tools

2008-04-14 21:33:24 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: but how do you get parents in to learn?? 

2008-04-14 21:33:26 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @lindan I've tried to switch to wiki's for parentsbut I failed because I was given no time to help parents understand how and whyto use it

2008-04-14 21:33:30 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: So @kmulford we need to engage business inbeing our partners and in engaging their employees as parents who are helping tfoster future citizens

2008-04-14 21:33:33 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg i know. but talking about math is not math

2008-04-14 21:33:40 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: Take 2 min at back-to-school night to teach how tosuscribe w/ Google reader to class blog - worth the time!

2008-04-14 21:33:55 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: yes sylvia... that just it

2008-04-14 21:34:01 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: yes, many teachers don't know how to use thetools or to engage parents.

2008-04-14 21:34:05 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: My schools tend to expect parent education is aboutwhich text book is being used

2008-04-14 21:34:07 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: and subscribe to their kids' blog

2008-04-14 21:34:09 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Regardless of whether you use wikis, blogs you needto provide tutorials and help so they can learn to use it. Steve is exactlyright!

2008-04-14 21:34:15 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi Maria

2008-04-14 21:34:16 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @LindaNitsche Ooooh. Tell me more.

2008-04-14 21:34:16 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: yeah moodle!!!

2008-04-14 21:34:22 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: so it's a chicken and egg -- do you educate teachersfirst or parents first

2008-04-14 21:34:35 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: do parents need to create the demand to bring theteachers along

2008-04-14 21:34:42 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: educate the kids first

2008-04-14 21:34:49 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: Hello! My first time, be gentle.

2008-04-14 21:34:52 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: so true

2008-04-14 21:34:58 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: kids first

2008-04-14 21:34:59 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg I continue to use email, newsletters,moodle, nings- multiple means of informing and engaging parents in what ishappening in the classroom- the wikis were the first way that i asked theparents to give something back

2008-04-14 21:35:02 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Maria

2008-04-14 21:35:06 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: @penross. Only effective way to initiate change

2008-04-14 21:35:08 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: but after the kids...

2008-04-14 21:35:10 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i AM being gentle Maria - ask anyone

2008-04-14 21:35:13 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff YES!~ Kids first. They'll drag everyone elsein with them.

2008-04-14 21:35:20 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: in my case... I am the disruptive innovator.. Iprovide a service to parents and parents then put pressure back on the schoolto take up the things that I do

2008-04-14 21:35:34 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I don't know moodle

2008-04-14 21:35:42 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: @kmulford. How is that?  Teacherscontrol the classroom

2008-04-14 21:35:49 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: to much set up for my situation

2008-04-14 21:35:54 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: djakes - what?

2008-04-14 21:35:56 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: How is that working for us so far?

2008-04-14 21:35:59 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: None of us can know ALL of the tools. Wecollectively learn...

2008-04-14 21:36:01 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: tell my learners that

2008-04-14 21:36:04 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: mr 5 here again brb

2008-04-14 21:36:06 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: use the platform that you are most comfortable with- it doesn't matter

2008-04-14 21:36:14 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Moodle is a classroom management system - sortof like blackboard.

2008-04-14 21:36:35 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I don't believe in the students first to the extentthat my parents don't trust their children to be productive on their computers

2008-04-14 21:36:40 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It appears that the teachers that use their classblogs to showcase what the kids are learning/experiencing in school are a greatway for parents to become familiar with blogs. They love to see their ownchild's work online.

2008-04-14 21:36:42 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: mr 5 coming and going

2008-04-14 21:36:43 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: this was the point in my blog post - teachersneed support 

2008-04-14 21:36:44 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: exactly make it personal and relevant to parents first

2008-04-14 21:36:47 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes right on, right on

2008-04-14 21:36:50 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: sneak the school stuff after

2008-04-14 21:37:00 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Well, if the kids are exposed... through a greatTech Coord, Library MEdia, etc... they carry the enthusiasm. It's OUR job toget the teachers to try it with us...

2008-04-14 21:37:06 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Its about a collective shared vision, supported bythe school community, teachers, admins, parents

2008-04-14 21:37:19 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: establish that and then support it

2008-04-14 21:37:28 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: thats the key to SYSTEMIC change

2008-04-14 21:37:40 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: http://blog.tech4learning.ca  "Schools Engaging Parents -Research Says..."

2008-04-14 21:38:23 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: I'm not interested in isolated classrooms in aschool....

2008-04-14 21:38:43 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: What is the age minimum for Ning? can I use it with11-13 year olds?

2008-04-14 21:38:47 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: a blog is easier to read than participating in Ning- a wiki might be easier

2008-04-14 21:38:51 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes...agreed...I want to see it go broaderand deeper

2008-04-14 21:38:57 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes it takes a LOT of consistency. lots ofschools do 3 email newsletters and give up

2008-04-14 21:38:58 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes - what do you mean?

2008-04-14 21:39:03 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Ning is for 13 years and up

2008-04-14 21:39:04 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: Montgorp - it depends on the ammount of support

2008-04-14 21:39:15 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: younger kids will need more support

2008-04-14 21:39:25 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @Djakes In districts that invest in the collectivevison, yes. If you are unfortunate enough to work where there is NOT one, youcannot ignore the need for engagement of the learners in the meantime.

2008-04-14 21:39:31 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp Ning can be completely private- I amusing it with fourth and fifth graders.

2008-04-14 21:39:49 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy. So that stops me from using Ning. I teach11-13 yr olds

2008-04-14 21:39:53 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome conrad...thanks for joining PAP!

2008-04-14 21:39:54 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi conrad

2008-04-14 21:39:55 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: I'm interested in an entire school going in adirection, we've had innovative classrooms for years, but thats not enoughnow.  It leads to a non-equitableexperience for students

2008-04-14 21:40:04 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes - catching up on chat now ...  it happens at all levels - there'sdifferent objectives with diff engagements

2008-04-14 21:40:09 [Message]conrad -> -EdTechTalk: hello everyone

2008-04-14 21:40:18 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: everyone on board is that it jakes?

2008-04-14 21:40:20 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: Hello

2008-04-14 21:40:25 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi kevin

2008-04-14 21:40:30 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @Linda Do your parents have access to your Ning?

2008-04-14 21:40:38 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes Yah, well, I saw your job posting... I'mapplying!

2008-04-14 21:40:39 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: : )

2008-04-14 21:40:49 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: good for you

2008-04-14 21:40:53 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: brownies! i used to do brownies

2008-04-14 21:41:04 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I find so many people very reluctant to add/edit awiki, even some who are tech leaders. They need a lot of support and hand-holdingto take that first step.

2008-04-14 21:41:05 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes -- I hear that -- my daughter is going intoan innovative class next year(grade 3 ) but grade 4 is a technophobe -- howfair is that to the kids??

2008-04-14 21:41:18 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: Noob question - the EdTech Talk A, is it in realtime, or is it recorded?

2008-04-14 21:41:30 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Real time..with slight delay

2008-04-14 21:41:33 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @Maria Real time

2008-04-14 21:41:33 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @maria 30 seconds delayed

2008-04-14 21:41:34 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: it is live

2008-04-14 21:41:36 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: thanks

2008-04-14 21:41:38 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It's real time but will be recorded and archived

2008-04-14 21:41:40 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes - getting the whole school requires theprincipal on board...they seem bogged with everything!

2008-04-14 21:41:45 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: @penross, So all that momentum is lost, as opposed to a school scope and sequencethat builds skills throughout the school experience

2008-04-14 21:41:55 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp Yes, none have requested personalmembership, they view it through their child's login.

2008-04-14 21:42:01 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine - i agree

2008-04-14 21:42:07 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes how do you bring an entire schoolalong with your vision without adequate leadership who share your vision?

2008-04-14 21:42:11 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: so does it take one parent like me to push with eachgrade the whole way through

2008-04-14 21:42:11 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine. yes, it does

2008-04-14 21:42:23 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: one class that demands the bar be raised

2008-04-14 21:42:28 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @Linda. You got all the parent permissions etcbefore hand?

2008-04-14 21:42:29 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes-as a former principal I definitely agree withyour school-wide focus and the principals need to be on board!

2008-04-14 21:42:33 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Blended model of teachers and parents? Asynchronous?Hm.

2008-04-14 21:42:44 [Message]matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @mtaft...talk about how you have used sometools to engage parents...

2008-04-14 21:42:45 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: volunteer to teach the teachers and hold their hand

2008-04-14 21:43:05 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: Tech Border Collies to keep herd safe

2008-04-14 21:43:13 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: real time

2008-04-14 21:43:15 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Open PD, podcasting that allows parents... COOL!

2008-04-14 21:43:16 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: C'mon Steeve

2008-04-14 21:43:40 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: thinking we need to work on principals - as aschool council chair I need to "push" district to make sure allprincipals are comfortable with these tools so they can get the"vision"

2008-04-14 21:43:51 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @montgorp Yes got permission...I needed to setup student email accounts (sub gmail accounts) and wanted to make it clear howthe process would work.

2008-04-14 21:43:57 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: When I was head of EC at my school I had awebsite for all the classes- trianing parents to check for info, etc.  Gotta start them young!

2008-04-14 21:43:59 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: profile for parents - but will profile alonehelp for teachers?

2008-04-14 21:44:02 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: synchronous communication can be a key tobuilding relationships, esp. "outreach"

2008-04-14 21:44:03 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That's a neat idea--to profileschools/parents/teachers using web 2.0

2008-04-14 21:44:07 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: principals, superintendents, school board members

2008-04-14 21:44:20 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: Tim Lauer - principal at Lewis Elementary SChool inPortland has his entire school website set up w/ RSS and all teachers at hisschool blog

2008-04-14 21:44:22 [Message]jaybennett -> -EdTechTalk: tech directors

2008-04-14 21:44:27 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Steve, I have been asked to do that for somereseachers here in Oz. Time is the problem

2008-04-14 21:44:28 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: the assignment is a great idea - expand the classroomto the home

2008-04-14 21:44:36 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Getting administrators onboard and workingactively with the technology is essential.

2008-04-14 21:44:45 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: one problem - you present a new level of expectations!

2008-04-14 21:44:46 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: We invited parents in in Nov and had kids sit atcomputer with parent and show podcasts, wikis, blogs, etc

2008-04-14 21:44:46 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: what about the parents with no computer/internet?

2008-04-14 21:44:49 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Wow. Assign parents to open a FB account? Highschool....

2008-04-14 21:45:03 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: show and tell on computers

2008-04-14 21:45:05 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: @mtaft exactly! creating classrooms without walls

2008-04-14 21:45:08 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine-that is so true! principals seem to be toobusy to even take the time to learn about it. But they can see the power ifthey have teachers who are using it effectively.

2008-04-14 21:45:09 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: Direct relationship between administrativeexpectations and use and classroom use

2008-04-14 21:45:10 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @penross YES! The equity issue rears its head toexclude some!

2008-04-14 21:45:12 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @mtaft The world is setting up a new level ofexpectation.

2008-04-14 21:45:12 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: or just to comment on their (student's) blog

2008-04-14 21:45:18 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: @penross indeed

2008-04-14 21:45:23 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: It would probably be nice to have particular uses fora FB though, rather than just "open an account for no particularpurpose"

2008-04-14 21:45:35 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: doug's favorite word is 'indeed

2008-04-14 21:45:46 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: OK, commenting on their student's blog is morereasonable. But still exclusionary.

2008-04-14 21:45:50 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: @Durff-- you slay me ;)

2008-04-14 21:45:51 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: For me, even with tech savvy parents- withno admin support- just doesn't fly. I also have parents who are into the waldorf model- no tech in theirlives at all

2008-04-14 21:45:54 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: The equity issue is a red herring!

2008-04-14 21:45:56 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: It sounds like some of us have schoolwide supportbut then there are many of us that are still isolated

2008-04-14 21:46:05 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i do nothing of the sort

2008-04-14 21:46:10 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: agree you need to have multiple strategies atmultiple levels

2008-04-14 21:46:15 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: I've seen a teacher interact with students thru FBon issue of stress - if their parents only knew what the middle schoolers felt!

2008-04-14 21:46:18 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: have to go look up "waldorff model"...just a sec...

2008-04-14 21:46:18 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: I would think that the conversation with parentswould focus on learning first, with an explanation of how the tools couldsupport that.

2008-04-14 21:46:32 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: for homework - my students had to show parents theirshared Google powerpoint projects that were embedded on a class wiki

2008-04-14 21:46:32 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: I do not have admin suport. I barely have adminlicense

2008-04-14 21:46:33 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: I wouldnt start with the tools

2008-04-14 21:46:35 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: I thought that was a fruit salad.

2008-04-14 21:46:46 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: food?

2008-04-14 21:46:51 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i want some

2008-04-14 21:47:09 [Message]sylvia -> -EdTechTalk: waldorf is against tv, stuff like that

2008-04-14 21:47:11 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: some people take Walforf to mean more cultish thingsthan other people >_>

2008-04-14 21:47:12 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @djakes Parents don't necessarily want to come tosee these tools in the classroom

2008-04-14 21:47:13 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: tools, tools tools

2008-04-14 21:47:15 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: fear is a factor ... as is time

2008-04-14 21:47:18 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: They didn't have experience...kids showed them

2008-04-14 21:47:22 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: devil's advocate -- as a parent -- tired at the endof the day -- now you want me to learn something new -- I graduated high schoolalready -- why do I have to go back?

2008-04-14 21:47:23 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: @lparisi You got front and center!

2008-04-14 21:47:41 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i lack that fear

2008-04-14 21:47:41 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Then kids go home and work on blogs and wikis andpodcasts for homework

2008-04-14 21:47:49 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: "Getting a good education for your child is nota spectator sport"

2008-04-14 21:47:49 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: I lack intelligence

2008-04-14 21:47:50 [Message]djakes -> -EdTechTalk: talk about connecting, creating, collaborating,

2008-04-14 21:47:52 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: maybe it is common sense i lack

2008-04-14 21:47:54 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: penross - I wouldn't make it mandatory - it would begreat for enrichment

2008-04-14 21:47:55 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: My parents still are comfortable with text book andworksheets they are paper trained like the students

2008-04-14 21:47:56 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah- for me it's a negative- waldorf- seentoo many kids who did not have their academic needs met in a waldorf system

2008-04-14 21:47:57 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @penross = good point.  we need to understand why parents would want to - WIIRM?

2008-04-14 21:48:05 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: oops WIIFM?

2008-04-14 21:48:15 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: ??

2008-04-14 21:48:15 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, my parents are completely amazed at whattheir children can do. So I ask the students to show their parents how itworks.

2008-04-14 21:48:16 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: oh i;m with you kevin - i lack intelligence too

2008-04-14 21:48:24 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Why does it have to be one or the other?

2008-04-14 21:48:28 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: no wouldn't agree Lorna

2008-04-14 21:48:31 [Message]Harold -> -EdTechTalk: putting yourself out there that is scary...it took a longtime for me to start doing this stuff, just think of a parent that wants betterfor their child and isn't computer literate

2008-04-14 21:48:35 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: what about the kids teaching the parents athome?

2008-04-14 21:48:42 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Bring it in the school but also at home.

2008-04-14 21:48:43 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: Educate the parents - show them how thecommunication helps - but le them choose whether they want to use the tools ornot

2008-04-14 21:48:43 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Parents with computers... less of a problem thanthose without. How can we fix this elitism?

2008-04-14 21:48:43 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: then parents don't have to come to school

2008-04-14 21:48:46 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: ure... I have expereinced Al's problem as well

2008-04-14 21:48:49 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: slow down- can't read this fast and listentoo!

2008-04-14 21:49:00 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: We started by blogging homework.  Parents understood homework.

2008-04-14 21:49:09 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: or homework help?

2008-04-14 21:49:14 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Here is a writing assignment...instead of doing iton paper, blog it.

2008-04-14 21:49:14 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Steve's response tot the Al Upton issue needs adminsupport.

2008-04-14 21:49:18 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: half an hour one night

2008-04-14 21:49:18 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Many of our parents don't speak English and theteachers don't speak Spanish--that is always a challenge and kids are often thetranslators for their parents.

2008-04-14 21:49:20 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: if a parent can't email/blog/wiki how can we getthem online to learn in a method like this??

2008-04-14 21:49:21 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: @lparisi good point

2008-04-14 21:49:22 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: What is you don;t have it

2008-04-14 21:49:33 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @Maureen It may be specific to your Waldorfexperience. School near me - not necessarily so.

2008-04-14 21:49:35 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Then we moved into commenting and asked parents,when they visited, to comment

2008-04-14 21:49:38 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: Right

2008-04-14 21:49:43 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Ooooh. Love the idea of blogging homework. Did youprovide the hardware?

2008-04-14 21:50:03 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: also read about an after-school club

2008-04-14 21:50:03 [Message]lparisi -> -EdTechTalk: no...kids all have computers

2008-04-14 21:50:05 [Message]jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Steve is a real draw!!!!!!!!

2008-04-14 21:50:07 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: @penross they have to want to be involved in theirchild's life

2008-04-14 21:50:09 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: sorry lorna!

2008-04-14 21:50:11 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: Show the parents how web tools can be used toorganize--sports teams, clubs, etc. in answer to "what's in it forme"?

2008-04-14 21:50:12 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: My model is, occassional bad things appen inschool but we don't close them.

2008-04-14 21:50:23 [Message]derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: go lorna go matt

2008-04-14 21:50:25 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: the chat is flying

2008-04-14 21:50:29 [Message]MariaD -> -EdTechTalk: Some common denominator has to be assumed anyway. Ifnot "everybody has a computer" then - what?

2008-04-14 21:50:42 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: lorna is following the chat again

2008-04-14 21:50:51 [Message]penross -> -EdTechTalk: @doug -- exactly -- we have to find that hook WIIFM-- then you'll get them

2008-04-14 21:51:03 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: back to the article I read about theafter-school club for kids that drew parents in - those that didn't havecomputers

2008-04-14 21:51:07 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: bottom line - you can only do what you can - not fulltechnology, the full parent involvement isn't possible

2008-04-14 21:51:10 [Message]colettec -> -EdTechTalk: I think more and more parents are becoming aware ofweb 2.0 through work, Time Magazine, word of mouth, etc..

2008-04-14 21:51:19 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: sorry- what's WIIFM??

2008-04-14 21:51:21 [Message]PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: blended approach makes so much sense

2008-04-14 21:51:23 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Oprah

2008-04-14 21:51:25 [Message]Durff -> -EdTechTalk: @Maria - then they use the public library's computer

2008-04-14 21:51:26 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: what's in it for me

2008-04-14 21:51:26 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: whats in it for them

2008-04-14 21:51:26 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: @MariaD community access for computers> libraries

2008-04-14 21:51:33 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: or me

2008-04-14 21:51:41 [Message]Maureen/bcdtech -> -EdTechTalk: thanks

2008-04-14 21:51:45 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: access/lack thereof is a HUGE issue

2008-04-14 21:51:52 [Message]kevinessdack -> -EdTechTalk: I have some good positive parent partnershipson my ning network. Not all but some.

2008-04-14 21:51:52 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: that convention wasn't very publicized, either

2008-04-14 21:51:55 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: my fault

2008-04-14 21:52:03 [Message]mtaft -> -EdTechTalk: but it worked well

2008-04-14 21:52:04 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: PA democratic debates will have a live chatfeature this week.

2008-04-14 21:52:09 [Message]dougsymington -> -EdTechTalk: I think "computer access" isapproaching a "basic human right"

2008-04-14 21:52:11 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: You were ustreaming your class!?!

2008-04-14 21:52:17 [Message]kmulford -> -EdTechTalk: Public LIBRARY? You obviously don't have kids. WAYtoo much time to wait in line.

2008-04-14 21:52:18 [Message]cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @doug agree

2008-04-14 21:52:20 [Message]montgorp -> -EdTechTalk: Wow!

2008-04-14 21:52:26 [Message]LindaNitsche -> -EdTechTalk: It is becoming a regular part of everyday life