Making Connections # 37
So sorry it has taken me so long to post this audio. Real life keeps getting in the way.
This show came to be as a result of me wanting to automate our lunch count proceedure. I wanted to know the best way to use Google Spreadsheet/Forms to make it happen. Once again, Jen Wagner came to the rescue along with Mark Samberg and his great ideas.
Thanks for a great learning experience!
18:58:29 dgoodman - whats our topic tonight
19:00:02 Cathy E - Jen Wagner is going to explain google spreadsheet with survey
19:00:12 dgoodman - cool
19:01:15 dgoodman - how's everyones school year been
19:01:57 mark samberg - Great!
19:02:14 dgoodman - its been busy here for sure
19:02:27 dgoodman - hi shelia
19:02:34 sheila - Hi all!
19:03:33 sheila - No stream yet, right?
19:04:22 dgoodman - not getting any sound here
19:05:10 Cathy E - Streaming on UStream www.edtechtalk.com/live
19:05:52 sheila - thanks will be back after refreshing page.
19:06:05 Heinrichka - Evening, everyone!
19:06:26 dgoodman - evening, heinrichka
19:07:30 dgoodman - is everyone hearing sound
19:07:56 Cathy E - http://www.jenuinetech.com/
19:08:03 PeggyG - no sound for me yet but I'm waiting for iTunes to catch up
19:08:31 sheila - I don't see a stream any where.
19:08:40 PeggyG - is it ETT A?
19:08:59 Cathy E - www.edtechtalk.com/live
19:09:05 JenWagner - hello room
19:09:09 Cathy E - then you can listen to the UStream
19:09:14 sheila - Hi Jen
19:09:20 dgoodman - hi jen
19:09:28 JenWagner - hi sheila and dgoodman!!!
19:09:40 PeggyG - hi everyone
19:09:44 sheila - UStream says off line for me ..
19:10:03 JenWagner - hey PeggyG
19:10:11 JenWagner - we are restarting the sound
19:10:18 JenWagner - can you hear us now
19:10:45 PeggyG - still no audio and there doesn't seem to be a ustream-where did it go?
19:10:47 dgoodman - not hearing anything here
19:11:20 PeggyG - Hi Jen-did you get my email in the last half hour?
19:11:42 JenWagner - yes ma'am
19:11:50 Cathy E - refresh the page and see what happens
19:11:56 PeggyG - great-can't wait to hear Sharon on WOW2 tonight!
19:11:59 JenWagner - I love that you are wearing the WOW2 shirt
19:12:04 JenWagner - and yes, you should retweet
19:12:08 PeggyG - but of course!!!
19:12:12 sheila - Still says offline for me . . .
19:12:35 dgoodman - refreshed and still no sound
19:12:38 JenWagner - okay third time is the charm
19:13:07 dgoodman - 3rd time is always a charm
19:13:23 JenWagner - 30 seconds and you should hear us
19:13:29 JenWagner - EdTechTalk A
19:13:31 PeggyG - still no audio for me-refreshed but may have to log out & back in??
19:13:48 PeggyG - yeah! audio!!!
19:13:53 JenWagner - yes!!!
19:14:04 dgoodman - I have sound now...yea
19:14:05 JenWagner - can you stil hear??
19:14:12 JenWagner - remember it is a 30 second delay
19:14:15 JenWagner - :)
19:14:21 PeggyG - I'm getting it on ETT A now-now ustream.
19:14:23 JenWagner - sometimes it is :)
19:14:27 sheila - Success!
19:14:42 PeggyG - just can't find the ustream but that's ok-I can hear :-)
19:15:01 dgoodman - yea Jennifer
19:15:13 PeggyG - Big night tonight Jen-glad you're here-tell it again
19:15:23 sheila - Pretend I didn't hear the first 2 times Jen . . .
19:16:10 Cathy E - http://jenuinetech.com/blog/?p=317
19:17:29 PeggyG - oh, lunch count on Google forms-what an awesome idea!
19:17:45 Heinrichka - Great idea!!!!
19:18:35 dgoodman - good to know
19:20:11 Heinrichka - Yep
19:20:14 Heinrichka - Four
19:21:32 PeggyG - grilled cheese sandwiches :-)
19:21:43 Heinrichka - Juice or milk, cathy :-)
19:22:17 PeggyG - just heard a student webcast on coggins blog today-lunch menu was biscuits & grits- made me smile :-)
19:22:49 PeggyG - You're doing a great job of describing it even without the visual
19:23:10 JenWagner - http://jenuinetech.com/blog/
19:24:17 PeggyG - see it :-)
19:24:38 JenWagner - http://jenuinetech.com/blog/
19:24:56 PeggyG - and all of the results will show up as they are entered right on the spreadsheet :-)
19:25:06 dgoodman - is anyone trying this out on google as jen shares
19:25:10 Heinrichka - So it totals in real time for the cafe manager?
19:25:13 sheila - yes
19:25:23 dgoodman - did you see a code
19:25:36 dgoodman - I did not after choosing share
19:26:20 PeggyG - probably only Jen gets the code as the creator??
19:27:05 dgoodman - I was trying to create one as she was sharing and did not get a code when I hit share
19:27:08 sheila - New profession - short order cook!
19:28:17 Heinrichka - Saves time on both ends of the count!
19:29:45 PeggyG - http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pHizxDGzmMpy3-saEoPOkBQ&hl=en this is one very simple example of form I created to help a teacher friend.
19:30:04 sheila - This is very helpful! I'm thinking of doing this at our school!
19:30:32 PeggyG - If you scroll down on my survey you can see the results
19:30:50 dgoodman - ok....with you now
19:31:20 JenWagner - here is the image
19:31:21 JenWagner - http://jenuinetech.com/blog/
19:31:26 JenWagner - if you wish to see what we are looking at
19:32:02 sheila - We have a main lunch then an alternative and salad bar.
19:32:25 PeggyG - it sounds like it would be more consistent if you enter the choices
19:32:54 sheila - I'm liking this!
19:34:06 PeggyG - I think Google is good enough for that but it's down sometimes--not long
19:34:37 PeggyG - you can always download and save the results in spreadsheet form
19:35:45 Cathy E - http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pHizxDGzmMpy3-saEoPOkBQ&hl=en
19:36:05 PeggyG - don't teachers have to have the ability to edit to add their information?
19:36:42 Heinrichka - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)
19:36:45 PeggyG - it was just a quicky example of the power of Google forms for a PD survey
19:37:17 sheila - Chat option!
19:37:27 PeggyG - Yes and you can add comments on the sheet
19:38:23 PeggyG - did you notice on my survey results that technology PD cam up for almost everyone? :-)
19:38:49 PeggyG - you can also post it on a Google website
19:39:17 Heinrichka - Christopher ;_0
19:39:52 PeggyG - once you have the template created it would be easy to change the menu choices
19:40:19 PeggyG - LOL-I was a principal and I didn't "eat" in the cafeteria either :-)
19:40:25 Heinrichka - He's our partner in the news show! COOOL kid!
19:41:00 Heinrichka - Ohh....the choices do repeat....
19:41:05 PeggyG - too many choices for a drop down menu
19:41:22 Cathy E - cevanoff
19:41:31 Heinrichka - CE -- Asisstants....since they no longer do attendance ????
19:42:07 JenWagner - Yes, Peggy -- Just trying to think of how NOT to invent the wheel EACH day
19:42:19 PeggyG - anything you want to survey-any of the graphing activities that primary students do could be done on this form with the teacher entering the info if students can't all be on computers
19:42:40 mark samberg - Where did everybody go?
19:42:54 JenWagner - poof -- hmmmmm what happened
19:43:07 JenWagner - Yes, Mark is talking -- was talking about height charts --
19:43:08 Heinrichka - Skype + stream = oops LOL!
19:43:10 JenWagner - did you hear that??
19:43:17 PeggyG - charts/graphs of riders/walkers, favorite anything, pets, really anything you could graph
19:43:25 JenWagner - Yes!!
19:43:41 PeggyG - can only hear Cathy
19:43:45 dgoodman - terrible sound on this end...almost like outside crickets
19:43:50 JenWagner - We did on one is your class going to the dogs
19:43:58 JenWagner - and did a PET survey
19:44:01 dgoodman - can only hear cathy
19:44:03 PeggyG - loud hum may be from someone on internal mic-computer sounds
19:44:07 JenWagner - yep --
19:44:20 JenWagner - Mark is talking in 30 seconds :)
19:44:26 JenWagner - let us know if you can hear himj
19:44:27 JenWagner - him
19:44:29 PeggyG - can hear Jen now
19:44:33 PeggyG - now Mark
19:44:37 JenWagner - good thank you!!!
19:44:41 Heinrichka - I've got skype sound, too
19:45:40 PeggyG - you could get Prof Devel choices/preferences for teacher work days
19:46:02 sheila - I've done the birthday thing with my class. It's usually around 21, right?
19:46:07 PeggyG - favorite books
19:46:17 mark samberg - @sheila Yes
19:46:28 PeggyG - places students have been in the world
19:46:45 Heinrichka - Birth cities
19:47:00 sheila - welcome back to school. What did you do this summer?
19:47:01 PeggyG - Jen you should do a survey for all of your online projects to find out favorites
19:47:16 dgoodman - good idea peggy
19:47:23 PeggyG - pre-plug is good!
19:47:34 sheila - Hi Mary!
19:47:53 dgoodman - i also like the summer survey
19:47:55 sheila - We are working with forms with google forms
19:48:07 dgoodman - hi mary
19:48:08 sheila - @ Mary can you hear it?
19:48:39 sheila - You can type on the bottom of this box in the yellow area
19:48:46 PeggyG - just reinforcing your comment about give you a pre-plug
19:49:01 sheila - Mary is a teacher at my school, I believe . .
19:49:21 PeggyG - Yes, we should start a wiki for sharing examples (like the Voicethread wiki with tons of examples)
19:49:53 PeggyG - teachers will use it if it makes their lives easier
19:51:21 PeggyG - great example, Jen. If it helps them do something they are already doing they will see the value and won't view it as an add-on
19:52:25 mary - Yes, Sheila I can hear you.
19:52:32 PeggyG - they also have to trust that the technology will work when they need it--if it fails them a few times they decide it's not worth it
19:52:32 sheila - @Mary - Success!
19:52:57 sheila - @Mary, there is a 30 second delay.
19:54:18 PeggyG - Yes, it needs to be accessible and convenient
19:54:47 dgoodman - and support when they need it
19:55:50 PeggyG - one of my tech friends just did a presentation on how to present technology to teachers-click on workshops and "What Did I Sign Up For"-great advice - audio with PPT or video http://shawnwheeler.name/
19:56:26 PeggyG - the engagement value is such an important point
19:56:35 sheila - @mary - if you click on the link, it will pop up in the browser.
19:56:48 PeggyG - interaction is the key--technology isn't always used interactively
19:57:11 sheila - Imagine what we will learn tomorrow!
19:57:12 PeggyG - Yes Cathy! one person at a time!
19:57:36 PeggyG - Invite Mark back again to share some more!
19:58:28 PeggyG - great plan Cathy! Keep us posted on how it goes :-)
19:59:03 dgoodman - if anyone can pull it off, Cathy can
19:59:21 sheila - Can you have the calendar on the top with choices that are numbered? Then have the form below with choices #1-4.
19:59:33 PeggyG - Oh that's a fantastic idea to use your student to enter the choices :-)
19:59:52 JenWagner - Thank you Sheila -- I was trying to think of how to explain it too
20:00:00 sheila - @Mary - I sent you an email with my lunch count test form.
20:00:07 PeggyG - Good idea Sheila-that sounds like it might work!
20:00:10 sheila - Hi Brian
20:00:18 brian.wehner - Howdy.
20:00:31 PeggyG - Hi Brian
20:00:34 dgoodman - Thanks Jen
20:00:42 JenWagner - Peggy -- se you in 1 hour
20:00:43 JenWagner - :)
20:00:49 PeggyG - Very stimulating conversation-thanks!!
20:00:52 JenWagner - just time to eat -- relax a bit
20:00:54 JenWagner - and then WOW2
20:00:59 JenWagner - :)
20:01:03 PeggyG - Yes, come to WOW2!!
20:01:06 sheila - This was very helpful! Thanks!
20:01:18 sheila - See you all in an hour!
20:01:20 dgoodman - oh that was real bugs
20:01:24 PeggyG - crickets?? :-)
20:01:26 Cathy E - Oh I did not realze you are doing WOW2 tongiht
20:01:27 dgoodman - bye
20:01:30 sheila - bye
20:01:32 PeggyG - bye