Parents as Partners Episode #14 November 3, 2008

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Show Host Cindy Zautcke led the discussion with guests, Jon Hisgen of Wisconsin's Department of Public Instruction and Diana Borth, the Family and Consumer Education teacher at Badger Ridge Middle School in Verona, Wisconsin Jon talks about an anti-bullying program developed by the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction. Diana is piloting the program in Badger Ridge Middle School and she shared the experiences from this school. The state Department of Public Instruction and the Children’s Health Education Center have partnered to create Bullyfree Basics, a program for elementary school students that transforms lessons on the dangers of spreading rumors and insulting classmates into animated, interactive games

Chat Log
2008-11-03 19:58:59 [Message] lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hi
2008-11-03 20:06:16 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Stephanie - the Parents as Partners show will be on in an 50 min
2008-11-03 20:44:22 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jon! Thanks for joining us.
2008-11-03 20:47:01 [Message] jon wayne Hisgen -> -EdTechTalk: It is honor to be a part of this unique technology Cindy
2008-11-03 20:55:19 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: matt montagne
2008-11-03 20:57:48 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all-really looking forward to tonight's conversation with Jon Hisgen re anti-bullying program :-)
2008-11-03 20:58:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: audio is coming through the stream now for me
2008-11-03 20:58:56 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: gr8
2008-11-03 21:00:03 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: great...thanks for update Peggy!
2008-11-03 21:00:17 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: hey guys!
2008-11-03 21:00:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: exciting Master's focus--parent engagement around technology. Love it!
2008-11-03 21:00:32 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: is there audio I am missing?
2008-11-03 21:00:44 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everybody! Welcome! Audio shortly
2008-11-03 21:00:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes Penny-click on ETT-A for stream
2008-11-03 21:01:06 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: thnks
2008-11-03 21:01:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm hearing it on ETT-A in iTunes
2008-11-03 21:01:20 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks xo for pointin gthat out Peggy
2008-11-03 21:01:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome everyone...we have two very nice guests on the show to talk about issues of bullying in the digital world!!
2008-11-03 21:02:13 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: will be back and forth -- trying to finalize my olympic ticket package
2008-11-03 21:02:32 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Hi USM!
2008-11-03 21:02:33 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Olympic Ticket Package?? That sounds exciting!!
2008-11-03 21:02:48 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great to hear from ALL of you!!
2008-11-03 21:03:01 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: gotta send a shout out to USM as well!!!
2008-11-03 21:03:06 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: Vancouver 2010 -- Go CANADA!!
2008-11-03 21:03:12 [Message] jon wayne Hisgen -> -EdTechTalk: The curriculum is going into its second edition by Jan. 1
2008-11-03 21:04:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm so glad you always start the show with the background and purpose--very helpful to new listeners!
2008-11-03 21:05:18 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: always love the phone a ringing of the phone in the background!!
2008-11-03 21:06:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: FYI-there is a weekly newsletter for EdTechTalk that provides links and brief descriptions of each show from the previous week so you can listen to shows you may have missed-subscribe on ETT :-)
2008-11-03 21:06:26 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Mary Jo and Penny
2008-11-03 21:06:52 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lorna
2008-11-03 21:06:54 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: hey Lorna -- double tasking 2nite -- so will be in and out
2008-11-03 21:07:39 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hello gcmom
2008-11-03 21:07:52 [Message] gcmom -> -EdTechTalk: hello
2008-11-03 21:08:05 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Internet program teaches harms of bullying to elementary students - JSOnline
2008-11-03 21:08:12 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: CAn everyone tell us where you are from?
2008-11-03 21:08:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:
2008-11-03 21:08:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Phoenix AZ
2008-11-03 21:08:36 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: I am from st.catharines, ontario, canada
2008-11-03 21:08:59 [Message] gcmom -> -EdTechTalk: I am from ontario
2008-11-03 21:09:24 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Listening from Hanwell, New Brunswick
2008-11-03 21:09:48 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: If you have a question for Cindy Diana or Jon type your question and we will pass it on
2008-11-03 21:09:52 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I'm from Palo Alto, California
2008-11-03 21:10:12 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: IT is gr8 to have neighbours here
2008-11-03 21:11:09 [Message] gcmom -> -EdTechTalk: Can someone please explain more about this chat room?
2008-11-03 21:11:17 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: sure
2008-11-03 21:11:44 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: I am from Calgary.
2008-11-03 21:11:45 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: folks who are listening to the webcast are here to talk to each other and the program for the evening
2008-11-03 21:12:13 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I think the adult piece is important, because adults are supposed to be models for kids...
2008-11-03 21:12:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I often times question whether or not we're the best models for ethical and kind interactions online
2008-11-03 21:13:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @gcmom-the chat log from tonight will be saved and posted along with the webcast audio on the EdTechTalk site
2008-11-03 21:14:39 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: have any of you heard of the pals program?
2008-11-03 21:15:09 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: No I haven't heard about the pals program
2008-11-03 21:15:25 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: please tell us about the pals program
2008-11-03 21:15:52 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hello Kevinh
2008-11-03 21:15:58 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: One of the best ways, though, to teach about effective online interaction is by actually having students interact with one another online in authentic ways
2008-11-03 21:16:06 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hello sroseman
2008-11-03 21:16:18 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lorna
2008-11-03 21:16:28 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: where is the audio please
2008-11-03 21:16:33 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: Dr. Tany Beran from Calgary did one part of a 3 part webcast last night on bullying -- was pretty good --
2008-11-03 21:16:39 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Hello
2008-11-03 21:16:44 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you blend the points of anti-bullying curriculum both f2f and cyber or do you address them separately?
2008-11-03 21:16:46 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: Our school uses the Expect Respect program
2008-11-03 21:17:02 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: upper right hand corner of the svreen
2008-11-03 21:17:09 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: choose an icon and clicl
2008-11-03 21:17:18 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: click
2008-11-03 21:17:33 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @penny - sorry i missed the broadcast!
2008-11-03 21:17:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: w00t! MrsDurff in the house!!!
2008-11-03 21:17:47 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hello Malaguti
2008-11-03 21:17:54 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Is there a link to the audio please
2008-11-03 21:18:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: piggybacking is a great thing!! :-)
2008-11-03 21:18:05 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: upper right hand corner
2008-11-03 21:18:12 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: usner edtecthalk A
2008-11-03 21:18:15 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: under
2008-11-03 21:18:19 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for the invite MrsDurff!
2008-11-03 21:18:25 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: click an icon
2008-11-03 21:18:38 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: if you have itunes click the one on the left
2008-11-03 21:18:57 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: our school has just implemented where students support other students by having set play time activities in school yard. This way no one is left out of any activities. These students who are running an activity are clearly marked with coloured pinnes. They also go through orientation courses. Kids helping kids with bullies.
2008-11-03 21:18:58 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: @cindy -- it is archived now -- can go back and watch
2008-11-03 21:20:29 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: @sroseman have did you get sound yet?
2008-11-03 21:20:29 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi sue
2008-11-03 21:20:36 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi malaguti
2008-11-03 21:20:48 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hello mrsdurff
2008-11-03 21:21:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you have a link for the policy/program guidelines you are using to teach the students about how to address bullying?
2008-11-03 21:21:33 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i see there is a movie star here
2008-11-03 21:21:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Is it important that there be a school-wide policy or can individual teachers implement a program?
2008-11-03 21:22:03 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Hi mrs Durf
2008-11-03 21:22:18 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: still no sound or icons for sound
2008-11-03 21:22:24 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Peaches
2008-11-03 21:22:31 [Message] jon wayne Hisgen -> -EdTechTalk: There is one in the curriculum (ie policy guidelines)
2008-11-03 21:22:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: click on the blue icon under ETT A
2008-11-03 21:23:40 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Website link to jon's website online:
2008-11-03 21:24:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Great, Matt! Thanks for the link
2008-11-03 21:24:24 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: so we could make fun of her?
2008-11-03 21:24:28 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: no problem, Pggy!!
2008-11-03 21:24:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Do you actually call it an anti-bullying program in your schools?
2008-11-03 21:25:03 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi Steve
2008-11-03 21:25:18 [Message] Steve Taffee -> -EdTechTalk: hello.
2008-11-03 21:25:47 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: have sound sue roseman?
2008-11-03 21:25:55 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey Steve!
2008-11-03 21:26:05 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: got it
2008-11-03 21:26:14 [Message] Steve Taffee -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt. Just logging in.
2008-11-03 21:26:15 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: yes, I have sound finally
2008-11-03 21:26:16 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: :)
2008-11-03 21:26:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you teach students the actual language they can use when dealing with put-downs?
2008-11-03 21:26:53 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @steve...sounds good...thanks for joining in the talk
2008-11-03 21:27:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hi susan
2008-11-03 21:27:12 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Really good stuff!
2008-11-03 21:27:21 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Susan!!!!
2008-11-03 21:27:22 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Very helpful conversation
2008-11-03 21:27:33 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: the key chain man is here?
2008-11-03 21:27:45 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wow, PasP is famous
2008-11-03 21:28:13 [Message] Penny -> -EdTechTalk: That's what I like about the expect respect program -- teaches what to do instead of focusing on the bad behaviour
2008-11-03 21:28:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it seems so often the perception of parents/kids concerned about bullying is that they reported it to the teacher/principal and nothing happened--nothing changed. Does the use of this curriculum change that?
2008-11-03 21:28:24 [Message] susan cutajar -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Matt, Miss you so much, and I am glad to be back online tonight. I ran into Cindy tonight as we were dropping off all four of our kids at the hockey rink and this topic will be a good one
2008-11-03 21:28:24 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @duff...another million listenerats and we'll b close to Oprah!!
2008-11-03 21:29:01 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: the guest is here - everyone attention
2008-11-03 21:29:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Susan...likewise..I miss u all as well...please pas along a virtual high five to aaron for me!
2008-11-03 21:29:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that practice/role playing is so valuable!
2008-11-03 21:29:16 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: Oprah? don't push it
2008-11-03 21:29:18 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: Is there any one- on- one assistance for those labelled as a bully, teaching better social skills, coping skills etc.?
2008-11-03 21:29:51 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @durff LOL!!!
2008-11-03 21:30:28 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: the keychain
2008-11-03 21:31:09 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: are you collecting any data via student/parent surveys to capture change in attitudes or incidences of bullying since you started the program? What are you finding?
2008-11-03 21:31:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: excellent qts
2008-11-03 21:32:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do the bullying situations get handled/facilitated by teacher, principal, counselor? How does this work?
2008-11-03 21:34:07 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Can Schools really regulate cyberbullying, harassment, and social networking?
2008-11-03 21:35:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: excellent example of the hearing impaired students--I used to be a principal in a school for hearing impaired and I know this is a big concern for them
2008-11-03 21:36:15 [Message] susan cutajar -> -EdTechTalk: Does Barbara Collarosso have materials available to schools and families regarding relational agression?
2008-11-03 21:37:03 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: chat room? am i supposed to be in the chat room? oops
2008-11-03 21:37:24 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: @mrsdurff you are too funny
2008-11-03 21:37:26 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Looks like a great pro-active approach for young people...are there similar online programs for older groups...those already big users of social media?
2008-11-03 21:37:29 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @durff ... yes, you are :D
2008-11-03 21:38:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: kids designing their own anti-bullying shirts--great point!
2008-11-03 21:38:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i was in the flatclassroomproject wiki
2008-11-03 21:38:51 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine...I would submit that adults need education as well...they often times are not the best models!!
2008-11-03 21:40:11 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: very true matt...I think society has become so "in your face"...difficult to change adult behaviour
2008-11-03 21:40:12 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: There was no internet when we were kids
2008-11-03 21:40:19 [Message] Steve Taffee -> -EdTechTalk: It seems to me that the definition of bullying is much like that of sexual harrasment, insofar as it relies a lot on the perspective of the victim. And if this is true, getting students to take the perspective of another can be caught up in developmental issues.
2008-11-03 21:40:25 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: we walk in our house with a philosophy of truth and honesty
2008-11-03 21:40:26 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: learning beside kids
2008-11-03 21:40:58 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: there are some great examples and guidance for appropriate use of cell phones in Liz Kolb's new book "Toys to Tools" that would be very helpful to integrate into anti-bullying programs.
2008-11-03 21:41:46 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hello connie
2008-11-03 21:42:02 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @steve Should we create a clearer defnition of bullying that is not so dependent on the perspective of the victim?
2008-11-03 21:42:32 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Could we define bullying in the context of power and control? Jon?
2008-11-03 21:43:39 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Don't forget November 21 - Stand up to Bullying Day...
2008-11-03 21:43:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: adults don't know appropriate ettiquette on cell phones so it's not surprising that kids don't either
2008-11-03 21:44:15 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy...EXCELLENT point!
2008-11-03 21:44:16 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy--you are absolutely right! That's why I struggle with the cell phone.
2008-11-03 21:44:40 [Message] connie -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Lorna
2008-11-03 21:45:05 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: tell us where you are from
2008-11-03 21:45:15 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: yes, encourage students to speak up without fear of recrimination if they know of someone who is the victim of cyberbullying.
2008-11-03 21:45:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: so often they feel "anonymous" online and think they're really only talking to their friends, but they need to be taught it's public and can be viewed/heard by anyone
2008-11-03 21:45:58 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: communicate that it is NEVER their fault that they are bullied
2008-11-03 21:47:23 [Message] connie -> -EdTechTalk: I am from Ridgeway, Ontario and sit on the Special Education Advisory Committee of the Niagara Catholic District School Board.
2008-11-03 21:47:30 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: welcome
2008-11-03 21:47:38 [Message] connie -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you
2008-11-03 21:47:40 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: glad to see another neighbour
2008-11-03 21:47:50 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: netiquette
2008-11-03 21:48:26 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: starting when kids first touch technology.
2008-11-03 21:48:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I've seen many teachers that treat teasing/bullying reporting as tattling-how does the curriculum address that?
2008-11-03 21:48:31 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: this adult is fading fast - night ye all
2008-11-03 21:48:46 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @durff...g'nite!!!
2008-11-03 21:49:10 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: I so appreciate this conversation!
2008-11-03 21:49:31 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: That mentoring you speak of Matt takes's important as parents that we learn the terms...Lorna's making the point I was going to make!!!
2008-11-03 21:49:32 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Some parents treat the computer like their child's private diary.
2008-11-03 21:49:38 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: the easiest answer is always no
2008-11-03 21:49:54 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: so who's job is it to teach the parents?
2008-11-03 21:50:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes Kevinh! They don't want their kids to think they don't trust them when they want to monitor
2008-11-03 21:50:13 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: do any of these anti-bullying programs include a parent component?
2008-11-03 21:50:18 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Schools need to be given guidance urging them to take firm action against pupils who use mobile phones and the internet to bully other children and teachers.
2008-11-03 21:50:52 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine...agreed...just to be to fair, I'm really referring to all aadults as role models...I just don't think we do a good job of it in general
2008-11-03 21:50:54 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: perhaps in school parent training nites with guest speakers and hands on teaching
2008-11-03 21:51:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: my friend was just here signing up her 70 yo mother-in-law on facebook so it is coming ....
2008-11-03 21:51:13 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: sorry lost the audio - I'm sure Lorna's working on it!
2008-11-03 21:51:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thanks!
2008-11-03 21:51:23 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @cindy...that is a great point...I think it is important to be open...I know some parents who snoop and Im not sure that is write
2008-11-03 21:52:06 [Message] gcmom -> -EdTechTalk: If children cannot get onliine at home, they can get online elsewhere.
2008-11-03 21:52:21 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Children's Health Hospital Curric:
2008-11-03 21:53:02 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that is a powerful story, Cindy...very powerful
2008-11-03 21:53:11 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I really agree with that point--tell your kids you're going to monitor their online activity (and cell phone texting) up front--don't sneak and hide it trying to catch them
2008-11-03 21:54:49 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: you can't tell people about twitter -- have to experience:) :) :)
2008-11-03 21:55:22 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I like the focus that it is shared responsibility and not just the teacher/principal that is expected to "make it stop"
2008-11-03 21:55:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:
2008-11-03 21:55:39 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: community approach
2008-11-03 21:55:52 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: lost audio again
2008-11-03 21:56:08 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that is a link to a story about the anti-bullying program that Jon discussed
2008-11-03 21:56:08 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes-community approach--even bus drivers need to be included in this training/conversation :-)
2008-11-03 21:56:31 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: right!
2008-11-03 21:56:33 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: system crashed at my end
2008-11-03 21:56:37 [Message] kevinh -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you so much!
2008-11-03 21:56:51 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: next time Vanessa Van Petten from
2008-11-03 21:56:52 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Did we say we don't do this for a living? :)
2008-11-03 21:57:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: such valuable information tonight! Thanks everyone!!
2008-11-03 21:57:17 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Vanessa will talk about her book The Dirt E-Secrets of an Internet Kid
2008-11-03 21:57:40 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: on November 17 - join us
2008-11-03 21:57:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: I've seen a few of vanessa's small presentations -- should be interesting
2008-11-03 21:57:48 [Message] jon wayne Hisgen -> -EdTechTalk: If you want a copy of the cyber lesson we developed email me at [email protected] and I will send it.
2008-11-03 21:57:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I haven't seen that book--sounds fantastic!
2008-11-03 21:57:51 [Message] mary jo -> -EdTechTalk: thanks! have a great night!
2008-11-03 21:57:55 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Jon and Diana
2008-11-03 21:58:21 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg - have a look at Vanessa's website -
2008-11-03 21:58:24 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks so much! We'll talk to you November 17!
2008-11-03 21:58:31 [Message] susan cutajar -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you for the email address, we will pass it to our school also.
2008-11-03 21:58:37 [Message] susan cutajar -> -EdTechTalk: nov 17 matt
2008-11-03 21:58:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Absolutely--thanks Jon and Diana!!! important topic and great advice!
2008-11-03 21:58:53 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks PasP team, great job again.
2008-11-03 21:58:54 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: great conversations ... thanks
2008-11-03 21:59:02 [Message] jon wayne Hisgen -> -EdTechTalk: It was great. i am writing a graphic novel for families who have a loved one deployed. It might be a valuable topic for 2009
2008-11-03 21:59:10 [Message] susan cutajar -> -EdTechTalk: thank you
2008-11-03 21:59:11 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: btw great job on the k12 presentation Matt and Lorna!!
2008-11-03 21:59:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks penny! appreciated
2008-11-03 21:59:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I will definitely take a look at Vanessa's website. Thanks!
2008-11-03 21:59:58 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Good nite everybody. See you on the 17th.
2008-11-03 21:59:59 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: echo penny...was fun to watch the k12 picked some great stuff!
2008-11-03 22:00:04 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks everyone for joining us tonite...sorry we bonked out at the end
2008-11-03 22:00:22 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Thank u jeannine
2008-11-03 22:00:35 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: getting a different audio feed now -- interesting
2008-11-03 22:00:36 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Matt, Lorna and Cindy! another great show!!
2008-11-03 22:01:09 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: Good night all
2008-11-03 22:01:17 [Message] gcmom -> -EdTechTalk: good night everyone
2008-11-03 22:01:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-if you're in iTunes once the show stops streaming it may move you on to the next show/audio you have saved there.
2008-11-03 22:02:26 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night all! See you on Nov. 17 :-)
2008-11-03 22:03:15 [Message] connie -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you, I have dial up internet service, so I keep loosing the audio, hope to be able to come on again.
2008-11-03 22:05:25 [Message] connie -> -EdTechTalk: Good Night
2008-11-03 22:05:33 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: good nite guys -- back to my olympic quest

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I love these videos. I did the first one in it's entirety and would like to see this piloted in a classroom.

The second one is good too, however, I find it a bit "wordy" for me late at night when I do my homework. Possibly would be too wordy for a lot of kids too.....