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A "berry" good brainstorm.
Thanks to Jeff for hosting the call, and all who joined us in the chatroom. This week we check in with Vance Stevens, Jose Rodriguez, and Dave Cormier about plans for Webheads in Action: Online Convergence, 2009 (WIAOC09).
 
Chat:

 20:59:26  dougsymington : hey JL
 20:59:35  JL : Hey Doug
 21:00:03  JL : Jose skyped me to say he wanted to join in tonight but will be on his cell for the first 30 minutes. 
 21:00:16  JL : I have unlimited skype if you'd like me to host
 21:00:16  dougsymington : cool, thx
 21:00:26  dougsymington : sure, thx again
 21:01:28  JL : Brother Vance is with us this morning
 21:01:44  vance : how'd that happen?
 21:02:52  vance : do I appear on skype as well?
 21:03:11  JL : shall we call you Doug, or would you like me to host?
 21:03:19  JL : the skype conf
 21:03:37  JL : guess I should turn my skype on either way
 21:03:38  dougsymington : JL, plse call me thx
 21:03:45  dougsymington : lol
 21:03:48  dougsymington : true dat
 21:03:55  dougsymington : welcome Vance and Sheial
 21:04:01  Sheila : Hi!
 21:04:50  JL : got your voicemail doug
 21:05:37  vance : do I show up on skype?
 21:06:06  vance : oh it seems to have kicked in now
 21:06:14  minhaaj : Hi all
 21:06:18  Sheila : Jeff you sound loud
 21:06:27  Sheila : Hi Minhaaj
 21:06:41  minhaaj : Wassup Sheila :) the energetic teacher
 21:06:50  Sheila : :)
 21:07:00  vance : I've got the feed now
 21:07:09  Sheila : shoutcast
 21:07:25  vance : how do I come on in?
 21:07:29  Sheila : better!  :)
 21:08:22  minhaaj : echo?
 21:08:36  minhaaj : better now :)
 21:08:57  Sheila : Switching to ustream, don't want to be 30 sec behind everyone.
 21:09:03  dougsymington : http://www.hancockwildlifechannel.org/staticpages/index.php/200903022000...
 21:09:14  minhaaj : oh i'll retweet.
 21:10:02  minhaaj : lol
 21:10:02  Sheila : Sound is much better on ustream!
 21:10:20  minhaaj : you were in skype call Sheila?
 21:10:25  Sheila : no
 21:10:29  Sheila : Hi Peggy!
 21:10:33  minhaaj : Hey Peggy
 21:10:40  PeggyG : Hi Sheila and all!
 21:11:32  PeggyG : really strange--I don't have a toolbar to use to float my chat window!
 21:11:50  Sheila : refresh?
 21:12:01  PeggyG : that will log me out but I may do that
 21:12:37  Sheila : Or close window and try again.
 21:12:49  minhaaj : have you tried Joomla Vance?
 21:12:54  minhaaj : less hassle :)
 21:13:15  minhaaj : or a webhost
 21:13:29  minhaaj : lol nothing like Ning. agreed.
 21:13:55  PeggyG : I think Moodle is much easier than Drupal
 21:14:32  PeggyG : you can schedule events on a calendar on Ning
 21:14:49  PeggyG : but there are other limitations on Ning too--even though I love it
 21:15:03  minhaaj : does it? there are unconferences on web too ?
 21:15:19  minhaaj : we had one in K-12, right Sheila?
 21:15:21  PeggyG : absolutely Minhaaj
 21:15:32  minhaaj : K-12 unconference that is.
 21:16:06  PeggyG : often unconferences are blended--some present in person and some online like educon2.1 this year
 21:16:09  Sheila : Sorry grading papers as I listen. . .
 21:16:25  minhaaj : hehe don't fail em :)
 21:17:10  PeggyG : you can add the calendar feature as the moderator of the site
 21:17:43  minhaaj : Hi Robert, Durff.
 21:17:56  Robert Squires : Hi Minhaaj, Thanks for the tweet.
 21:18:01  mrsdurff : hey minhaaj
 21:18:14  PeggyG : what's the link for the convergence ning?
 21:18:32  JL : http://webheadsinaction.ning.com/
 21:18:43  mrsdurff : someone put that on google calendar  for me please
 21:19:00  minhaaj : Yaaaaaaaaaaaay webheads!
 21:19:39  minhaaj : building is an euphemism for bursting here
 21:19:41  minhaaj : hehe.
 21:19:45  PeggyG : the webheads are very active!!
 21:20:04  mrsdurff : bursting at the seams, is it?
 21:20:33  mrsdurff : hi dave
 21:20:35  Sheila : Just talking about you
 21:20:43  minhaaj : ahh its dave.
 21:21:01  mrsdurff : i was born a webhead, wasn't I?
 21:21:16  minhaaj : http://wiaoc.org/
 21:21:18  guest478 : that and lazy keynoters
 21:21:23  minhaaj : planning wiki url is on it
 21:21:28  PeggyG : I'm a webhead lurker :-)
 21:21:41  mrsdurff : that's my job!
 21:21:44  minhaaj : http://wiaoc-planning.pbwiki.com/FrontPage
 21:22:12  minhaaj : Vance will you be using LearningTimes platform ?
 21:22:24  guest478 : dave might try something
 21:22:33  mrsdurff : that's elluminate, minhaaj
 21:22:40  minhaaj : i know mrsdurff
 21:22:57  minhaaj : i was asking as in LearningTimes or Individual link for the room
 21:23:08  mrsdurff : 'cuse me, cat-attack
 21:23:15  minhaaj : lol
 21:23:19  PeggyG : yes easy to get mp3 from elluminate
 21:23:47  mrsdurff : the sound of voices getting the cats riled up
 21:24:12  mrsdurff : i'm at dani's house and the kids let those cats out in the house
 21:24:19  guest478 : yay peggy
 21:24:27  guest478 : uz iz master
 21:24:31  PeggyG : the moderator gets a link with the mp3 and chat log from elluminate
 21:24:36  vance : http://wiaoc-planning.pbwiki.com/Committees
 21:24:42  PeggyG : but you need to be the administrator/moderator
 21:24:44  minhaaj : well in most webconferences you could record it so mp3 can be extracted
 21:25:15  guest478 : ROTFL
 21:25:43  PeggyG : the quality of the audio is not as good if you record it during a live session as when you get it directly from elluminate
 21:26:05  vance : hi peggy, moderator gets a link to the whole schmeer whiteboard text chat recording in the implementation we're using
 21:26:08  minhaaj : he did. testifies :)
 21:26:12  mrsdurff : you both sound so  enthusiastic
 21:26:20  PeggyG : an unkeynote sounds amazing :-)
 21:26:22  Robert Squires :  I thought you get a .jar file from elluminate and have to purchase additional software to rip an mp3.
 21:27:14  mrsdurff : no comment
 21:27:46  mrsdurff : he said it folks, not I
 21:27:56  Robert Squires : It's a bit of conversation killer sorry
 21:28:29  mrsdurff : a rhizomatic direction?
 21:29:12  mrsdurff : eek - cats again..................
 21:29:22  minhaaj : get world unlimited Jeff
 21:29:23  minhaaj : :)
 21:29:37  Robert Squires : Logging out. I have a beautiful hops rhizome in the garden by the way...Gets bigger every year..bye
 21:29:43  mrsdurff : jose = free wifi
 21:29:48  minhaaj : bye Robert
 21:30:18  JL : wow, that's a pretty good deal Minhaaj http://www.skype.com/allfeatures/subscriptions/uscanadaworld/
 21:30:21  mrsdurff : ok these cats must go - brb
 21:30:35  Sheila : meow!
 21:30:39  minhaaj : i have unlimited WORLD.
 21:30:46  minhaaj : paid out for 3 months. really helpful.
 21:30:51  JoseRodriguez : Hey there folks...
 21:30:56  minhaaj : Hey Jose
 21:31:09  JoseRodriguez : greetings..
 21:31:20  minhaaj : We change daily.
 21:31:30  dougsymington : salut JR
 21:31:34  JoseRodriguez : true....
 21:31:35  minhaaj : There are amazing people on it. You could exclude me from them though.
 21:31:36  minhaaj : lol
 21:32:00  JoseRodriguez : ice cream anyone?
 21:32:15  JoseRodriguez : :)
 21:32:36  JoseRodriguez : 2007 was rocking!
 21:33:16  minhaaj : except for the organization part, yes its internet
 21:33:32  minhaaj : its like a pick-up game as for unconference
 21:33:44  JoseRodriguez : is anyone taking notes?
 21:33:56  minhaaj : we'll have chat log, no jose?
 21:34:07  JoseRodriguez : yep....
 21:34:15  JoseRodriguez : I like the party
 21:34:43  PeggyG : a valuable unconference is one that occurs in a common time where people can interact with presenters and participants--little different than k12online conference
 21:35:08  dougsymington : brb
 21:35:24  JoseRodriguez : ok.. ds.
 21:36:22  PeggyG : I think some moderation is definitely called for :-)
 21:36:34  JoseRodriguez : me too..
 21:36:37  minhaaj : as long as we have trolls Peggy
 21:36:39  minhaaj : heh
 21:36:43  dougsymington : back
 21:37:07  minhaaj : sponsorship - paid conference not = webheads
 21:37:48  PeggyG : you want to be able to depend on the people who commit to facilitate sessions and I agree that you want to avoid the commercial presentations
 21:38:10  minhaaj : Online conferences/unconferences/unconvergences should be free.
 21:38:22  JoseRodriguez : Lee Baber is a good a example...
 21:38:27  minhaaj : Education should in general be free. or should break even lets say.
 21:39:49  mrsdurff : the wifi merry-go-round
 21:40:42  JoseRodriguez : really?
 21:40:47  mrsdurff : the who of education?
 21:41:03  mrsdurff : is that a name in education?
 21:41:50  mrsdurff : there we go - the westinghouse of education
 21:42:00  PeggyG : would the money for Lee Baber special go to award student/teacher contributions or scholarships or???
 21:42:21  mrsdurff : $$?
 21:42:42  guest478 : the $500 was committed by nancy white for a teacher project
 21:42:59  PeggyG : I see-thanks Dave
 21:43:02  mrsdurff : really? wow
 21:43:19  minhaaj : i agree. i have learned things 'practically' in webheads.
 21:43:44  minhaaj : sure
 21:43:50  minhaaj : its www.changedetect.com
 21:43:59  minhaaj : i hope there is a firefox addon too
 21:44:19  minhaaj : well it sends you email about changes on a webpage WITHOUT RSS
 21:44:41  minhaaj : Hi Matt
 21:44:41  matt montagne : hey y'all
 21:44:56  mrsdurff : i'm totally ignorant and very happy to just have my Starbucks in a corner somewhere
 21:45:01  matt montagne : hey minhaaj...how is it going!
 21:45:14  minhaaj : great. geared up for earthcast09 :)
 21:45:22  mrsdurff : hey matt
 21:45:41  matt montagne : awesome, minhaaj! Me too! I'm looking foward to it!
 21:45:43  PeggyG : what would processing involve?
 21:45:46  matt montagne : Hey there Durff!
 21:45:51  guest478 : fun chatting... back to my holiday :) just had to drop in
 21:46:07  mrsdurff : holiday? now wait
 21:46:11  PeggyG : the archive is very important!
 21:46:12  dougsymington : thx dave
 21:46:22  mrsdurff : if i'm giving up my holiday to be
 21:46:28  mrsdurff : then you can too
 21:46:46  minhaaj : you could also convert your blogposts, websites and presentations into podcast with Odiogo
 21:46:49  dougsymington : welcome Matt
 21:47:01  matt montagne : Hey DS
 21:47:25  mrsdurff : don't think platform
 21:47:32  mrsdurff : think function
 21:47:36  matt montagne : I'm fairly ninged out
 21:47:58  mrsdurff : there will  never be enough nings
 21:48:18  matt montagne : I don't think of platofrom either, but I'm tired on nings
 21:49:29  mrsdurff : why not a central portal to hyperlink everything
 21:49:32  minhaaj : wiziq.com
 21:49:39  mrsdurff : and spread out from there
 21:49:44  minhaaj : it works fine or me though Vance :)
 21:49:53  minhaaj : for*
 21:49:59  mrsdurff : does wiziq do that, minhaaj?
 21:50:09  minhaaj : its a online conferencing tool like Elluminate
 21:50:20  minhaaj : www.wiziq.com i have been invited to test it by the creators
 21:50:27  minhaaj : indian guys. done wonderful job. its flex based
 21:50:36  mrsdurff : so still wanting a central portal
 21:50:46  minhaaj : except for the screen sharing :)
 21:51:19  PeggyG : can you embed recordings from second life?
 21:51:36  minhaaj : if you can upload to someplace like archive.org, yes i guess Peggy
 21:51:57  PeggyG : so you would have to record, download, upload to get the embed code?
 21:52:05  JL : what format are the recordings? avi?
 21:52:05  minhaaj : IMO
 21:52:21  minhaaj : Jose?
 21:52:29  JoseRodriguez : Yes...
 21:52:30  PeggyG : on archive.org you need to have authority to post the video (copyright)
 21:52:48  minhaaj : well if you run the event maybe you can gain consent for that Peggy?
 21:52:55  minhaaj : like webheads i presume.
 21:53:14  mrsdurff : i thought JL was always the wizard behind the curtain
 21:53:23  minhaaj : oh i was asking about the question JL asked about file format
 21:53:39  matt montagne : I'm really hoping we can archive all of our audio and get it posted to our Earthbridges.net site following the Earthcast.
 21:54:08  matt montagne : quite a challenge due to audio editing, but I think we can get it done
 21:54:14  minhaaj : yep he was on earlier
 21:55:20  mrsdurff : it has been done at short notice vance
 21:55:59  mrsdurff : you stream jose, alice will talk
 21:56:07  minhaaj : would be like digital discussion group? :)
 21:56:08  JoseRodriguez : :-)
 21:56:29  mrsdurff : i'll advertise
 21:56:37  mrsdurff : maria will show up
 21:56:49  vance : http://wiaoc09.pbwiki.com/schedule
 21:57:08  minhaaj : hehe CC unless proven
 21:57:17  mrsdurff : go for it jose - schedule us
 21:57:25  Sheila : Heading out! Night all!
 21:57:31  minhaaj : cya Sheila
 21:57:34  JoseRodriguez : night sheila..
 21:58:08  mrsdurff : love the way cormier puts it
 21:58:23  minhaaj : People generally respect and offer intellectual property rights
 21:58:43  minhaaj : unless you are hardcore academic :D
 21:59:08  minhaaj : Maybe you could do slot with me Vance
 21:59:11  mrsdurff : i'm a hardcore Starbucks fan
 21:59:29  Sheila : back again
 21:59:30  mrsdurff : sheila, you're back
 21:59:36  PeggyG : don't you have 2-3 time slots Matt?
 21:59:55  Sheila : @vance - If it's ok, may we have 30 minutes for a new teacher?
 22:00:04  matt montagne : @Peggy...yes, we have hours 3, 4, 5 of GRE
 22:00:08  Sheila : within your time slot.
 22:00:14  Sheila : ?
 22:00:23  PeggyG : that's what I thought--awesome!
 22:00:29  minhaaj : love of web 2.0
 22:00:30  minhaaj : hehe
 22:00:42  matt montagne : and my school has an hour later in the day...but happy to give those to anyone takers!
 22:00:45  carolteach4 : It's my first time here at EdTech Talk. Interesting.
 22:00:52  mrsdurff : his undieing devotion
 22:01:23  Sheila : @Vance - Did you see my note?
 22:01:24  PeggyG : welcome carolteach4!!!
 22:01:25  carolteach4 : I am still not a fan of Twitter, but that's how I found my way here.
 22:01:33  mrsdurff : you're welcome to come again carol
 22:01:54  carolteach4 : thanks - I'll be back again - starting April vacation, so I'll have some time
 22:02:24  mrsdurff : carol, i was saying you're welcome to come again
 22:02:27  PeggyG : could you do some pecha kucha sessions--short and to the point :-)
 22:02:40  mrsdurff : but i got kicked off the net
 22:03:30  PeggyG : that's definitely true Jeff if the person speaking changes frequently
 22:03:34  mrsdurff : carol, - i recommend WOW every other Tuesday
 22:03:37  PeggyG : many gaps in the audio
 22:03:43  carolteach4 : Thank you. This is pretty new to me, but it was a thrill hearing my name in the audio. That's why we need to use more of these tools with our students.
 22:03:47  matt montagne : that is a good idea...pre recorded intros / outtros
 22:04:23  matt montagne : that is why I've been groovin on using a netbook as a "monitor"
 22:04:32  mrsdurff : carol, did you realise Vance is in Abu Dabi somewhere
 22:04:44  matt montagne : use my mac book for webcasting and netwbook as a monitor
 22:04:47  PeggyG : good point about stopping the session and then starting a new session so you can have separate recordings
 22:05:01  mrsdurff : he will correct my spelling i'm sure
 22:05:13  carolteach4 : I have been following Cheryl Oakes (sp?) and Cool Cat Teacher, and I know about WOW from them, but I've never joined. I'll give it a try, hopefully, soon.
 22:05:35  mrsdurff : it's fun!
 22:05:37  matt montagne : hey James
 22:05:51  PeggyG : elluminate publisher I think
 22:06:05  PeggyG : yes
 22:06:16  PeggyG : administrators of elluminate have access to it
 22:07:03  JoseRodriguez : Hey James..
 22:07:07  JL : Matt, any Earthbridges planning we should be doing while folks are still on the line?
 22:07:15  PeggyG : Steve H always generates mp3s of our Classroom 2.0 LIVE elluminate sessions using elluminate publisher
 22:07:32  JoseRodriguez : or as matt would say the low hanging fruit.
 22:08:19  matt montagne : JL...good question...I'll be out of town this weekend, but next weekend I'm going to be around and we can do final preparations...I know we're going to need to do plenty of practice streaming
 22:08:20  JoseRodriguez : :-)
 22:08:21  carolteach4 : I heard a reference earlier about the threat of some web 2.0 tools that educators are finally embracing might start charging. In fact, there was a NPR story this morning about Kodac charging for online storage of pics.
 22:08:56  carolteach4 : Again, what a thrill to hear you guys addressing me directly. I'll have to think of Twitter that way.
 22:08:58  matt montagne : I'm actually feeling pretty good about Earthcast09...DS and Jose, on the other hand, might want to start catching up on their sleep now!
 22:09:06  matt montagne : Low hanging fruit...love it!
 22:09:07  JL : how many are part of 'we', Matt?
 22:09:11  JoseRodriguez : funny...
 22:09:51  PeggyG : yes carol--I heard that too about Kodak Gallery--you have to buy something every year to keep your album and photos stored there
 22:10:00  matt montagne : @JL...I think the streamers are going to be the usual suspects...I think 6-7 of us will handle the streaming for the day
 22:10:58  PeggyG : some exciting things coming up!! thanks for letting us join you for the brainstorming
 22:11:20  matt montagne : we have roughly 16 different participants for earthcast
 22:11:21  mrsdurff : must be time for the land of nod and planning to sleep in here...............
 22:11:39  matt montagne : I think next weekend will  be final prep for EC09
 22:11:59  Sheila : the 19th, right?
 22:12:01  JoseRodriguez : I'll be.. be leaving.. battery dieing.....
 22:12:13  mrsdurff : you could put skype on a flash drive, vance
 22:12:21  PeggyG : you need a hashtag too
 22:12:26  mrsdurff : bye jose
 22:12:31  JoseRodriguez : down to 30sec....
 22:12:32  matt montagne : @Sheila...I'm planning on Sat the 18 and Sun the 19th, 17 GMT both days
 22:12:34  JoseRodriguez : or so
 22:12:41  Sheila : Nice!
 22:12:54  Sheila : I'll feel better about that.
 22:12:55  mrsdurff : could be that port
 22:12:58  PeggyG : skype works great on an iphone :-)
 22:13:03  matt montagne : EC09 is a bit of a house of cards as people have been wavering a bit, but what can you do
 22:13:24  Sheila : @Vance - have a window open for you
 22:13:27  JoseRodriguez : take care. all... bye
 22:13:28  carolteach4 : Well, this has been an exciting first foray into the land of edtechtalklive. Thanks again.
 22:13:43  matt montagne : ttyl all
 22:13:45  mrsdurff : come again carol!
 22:13:48  JoseRodriguez : edtecthtalk....
 22:13:49  matt montagne : have good nite
 22:13:52  Sheila : Thanks DS!
 22:13:57  mrsdurff : nite all and happy long weekend
 22:14:01  PeggyG : so glad you were here carolteach4--join us on WOW2 on Tuesday Apr. 14
 22:14:02  vance : cheers all, thanks for the chat
 22:14:47  carolteach4 : good night-I will try to join if I can connect. I'll be going up to Maine to visit hubby's mom who is 90 - if not this coming Tuesday, then next.
 22:14:53  James Sigler : Sorry I missed the show.  I was working on a blog entry and forgot.
 22:15:19  dougsymington : @carolteach4 good hear--cya soon
 22:15:30  dougsymington : np James, glad you dropped in
 22:15:38  dougsymington : take care all and thanks again
 22:15:44  James Sigler : I hope to make it in next week.
 22:15:50  James Sigler : cya
 
 

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Comments

When will you post the EdTechBrainstorm from April 16, 2009

Hi, guys, This is carolteach. You have me so captivated by these conversations. In fact, on Thursday, April 16, I logged on while I was on school vacation. You called me on my cell phone and had me participating live. It was a real rush. I'd like to share this with my colleagues at school - helping them to understand how enriching it can be to be part of the conversation with other educators from all over. I am so disappointed that I cannot access a recording of this stream. Will it and the transcript of the chat be available soon? Thanks, Carolyn

...the elves are scrambling

Hi Carolyn,
Please accept my apologies for not having audio up yet. My excuses are my own, but suffice it to say that other tasks have kept me from ETBS editing. I hope to have the April shows up to date before the end of the weekend. Thanks for the comment and please do plan to join us again soon, so I can apologize live.

audio for April 16 show

I'll be looking forward to listening when you get the recorded stream mounted. I do hope to join the conversation live again, but I must admit I am still a bit intimidated by the thought. Perhaps joining in more often will allay my fears. I guess I am going to have to break down and download Skype and learn how to use it. Have a great weekend. I embedded the Voice Thread for Earthcast09 on my blog with directions for my school readers as how to navigate to the contributions we made. To the best of my knowledge only one other teacher in our school has used voice thread. It is such a great collaborative tool. Thanks to EdTechBrainstorm for getting me to try something new. And thanks to Matt for initiating the thread. I thought the responses from all over the world were great. http://evolvingclassroombethany.blogspot.com

Dave - FYI

Holler when there is a name/place to send the teacher project $$. Otherwise it will fall off my radar screen NW