K12 Online Conference Prep Brainstorm

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K12 Online Conference Prep Brainstorm
July 30, 2009

Preparations for K12 Online Conference 2009

Participants include  Jose Rodriquez, Wesley Fryer, Elizabeth Helfant, Jeff Lebow, Matt Montagne, Lisa Parisi, Cheryl Oakes, & Maria Knee

Chat Log Below
20:48:51  matt montagne ->  chat is totally borked on Firefox on my mac
20:49:03  matt montagne ->  no biggie
20:49:09  matt montagne ->  got Safari fired up
20:49:21  matt montagne ->  :-) That isn't a bad thing!
20:50:01  lisa parisi ->  Hello Jeff
20:50:16  cheritoledo ->  Hello Jeff
20:50:18  cheritoledo ->  thanks
20:51:22  lisa parisi ->  It was great meeting you in person!!!
20:51:33  lisa parisi ->  The highlight of my day!!
20:52:57  lisa parisi ->  You can call me in.
20:53:20  cheritoledo ->  I haven't been able to use FF on my Mac for the past year
20:53:29  cheritoledo ->  i use Opera
20:53:44  matt montagne ->  any edublogger con photos??
20:53:48  cheritoledo ->  hahahaha
20:53:52  matt montagne ->  @cheri...I LOVE Opera
20:54:07  cheritoledo ->  it's very cool and much better with Java than FF in mac
20:54:17  matt montagne ->  I'm not sure why I don't use it more often (Might be due to it not working with gmail)
20:54:37  JL ->  http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ebce09&w=all
20:55:09  JoseRodriguez ->  Hi there..
20:55:10  cheritoledo ->  yes - that was very interesting
20:55:32  matt montagne ->  Great photos!
20:57:47  melindamiller ->  hello will be in and out the kids are "listening":):)
20:58:45  melindamiller ->  can you put the link for asking for volunteers in the chat room, please
20:59:19  ehelfant ->  I am in a hotel in rural KY and will never keep the connection.. I'm going to listen as best I can and maybe chat
20:59:56  matt montagne ->  hey Sheila!
21:00:21  matt montagne ->  Hey ms - sicence!
21:00:40  sheila ->  Hi all!
21:01:38  kcaise ->  hi everyone!
21:01:52  lisa parisi ->  Hi Kim
21:02:08  wfryer ->  howday!
21:02:10  msreneescience ->  hi everyone
21:02:15  wfryer ->  or how about howdy!
21:05:08  kcaise ->  someone's doggie is thirsty
21:05:17  lisa parisi ->  I was just thinking that, Kim
21:06:09  matt montagne ->  I like the winery idea :-)
21:06:23  matt montagne ->  Hello Darrenmurphy...welcome to the Edtech Brainstorm
21:06:31  darrenmurphy2 ->  hi
21:06:32  matt montagne ->  Hello amckiel...welcome
21:06:58  amckiel ->  hi there :-)
21:07:17  matt montagne ->  Getting an update on the K12Online Conference from Jose Rodriguez, Elizabeth Helfant, and Wes Fryer
21:07:36  matt montagne ->  I do like the idea of pushing it back to first 2 weeks of December
21:07:37  wfryer ->  yes, I wish we had a winery venue that would work for us!
21:08:04  cheritoledo ->  I like that idea
21:08:06  matt montagne ->  Hello Deebee...welcome to the Edtech Brainstorm on K12Online
21:08:15  deebee ->  Hi...
21:08:38  matt montagne ->  Virtual Poster Sessions would be cool
21:08:42  cheritoledo ->  the December date, that is :-)
21:08:43  matt montagne ->  live virtual poster sessions
21:08:52  matt montagne ->  15 mins or something like that
21:08:56  wfryer ->  we have a "Will Rogers Theater" that I've wondered if we could use for a LAN party. We'd need to get sponsors to rent it out I think.
21:08:58  lisa parisi ->  Me, too. Dec is much more doable than Sept.
21:09:17  melindamiller ->  whats a LAN party
21:09:28  Dianne M ->  it would be good to record any live event so that those not in USA can participate / learn.
21:09:29  matt montagne ->  I would suggest that you push back the due date for conference proposals
21:09:41  cheritoledo ->  Plus it gives teachers the opportunity to show what their doing with their students
21:09:47  cheritoledo ->  at the moment
21:10:01  ehelfant ->  I agree with you Matt... need to get call out to wider audience first
21:10:02  lisa parisi ->  Good point, Cheri.
21:10:03  cheritoledo ->  rather than what they did last year or what they want to do in the future
21:10:16  sheila ->  It falls during our state conference.Wou
21:10:38  wfryer ->   here is a link on LAN parties for k12online - http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=16
21:10:44  matt montagne ->  @ehelfant...and it will spread organically, which I think is great
21:10:53  ehelfant ->  I want to try to get the word out to the general masses more so we have more folks interested-
21:10:55  kcaise ->  that is a great idea!
21:11:11  melindamiller ->  Okay we did host "LAN" parties last year
21:11:19  melindamiller ->  I understand no
21:11:22  melindamiller ->  now
21:11:31  matt montagne ->  what about encouraging presenters to "remix" previous presentations...an update of presentations so to speak
21:11:47  JoseRodriguez ->  Hey Durff..
21:11:51  matt montagne ->  hey mrsdurff
21:11:55  mrsdurff ->  hey
21:12:00  JoseRodriguez ->  That's a great idea.. Matt
21:12:10  cheritoledo ->  @Matt - that's exactly what I was just thinking
21:12:55  matt montagne ->  and what about a 'long tail' approach...eg, accepting just about all presos that meet a certain minimum requirement
21:13:11  lisa parisi ->  hello Durff
21:13:15  amckiel ->  K12Online has modelled the use of so many cutting edge technologies and their benefits - I agree that LAN parties could help to grow the conversation :-)
21:13:19  mrsdurff ->  hey parisi
21:14:04  kcaise ->  will 20 minutes be the time limit this year as well?
21:14:07  mrsdurff ->  hi carol
21:14:14  amckiel ->  @wfryer - exactly... appeal to the newbies
21:14:17  wfryer ->  melinda what were your experiences last year with LAN parties. What made it successful?
21:14:20  JoseRodriguez ->  yes.. that's the idea.. kim
21:14:23  JoseRodriguez ->  20min.
21:14:28  kcaise ->  ok
21:14:50  wfryer ->  i was also thinking about thematically similar presentations
21:15:43  carolteach4 ->  hi mrsdurff - how be you?
21:16:10  mrsdurff ->  just not/only remix but build upon?
21:16:13  melindamiller ->  don't hold them on school campus...that is no fun...needs to be social experience
21:16:22  JoseRodriguez ->  http://k12onlineconference.org
21:16:34  matt montagne ->  I know I'm a little irritated about a rejection from a national conference that I received today...I worked hard on the proposals and they were both rejected...no real reason for the rejection either, with the exception of, "We've had an incredible number of submissions..."
21:16:41  mrsdurff ->  hey sheika
21:17:15  carolteach4 ->  That is too bad, Matt. You do such great stuff. They obviously haven't tuned in.
21:17:20  melindamiller ->  matt I find that sometimes who is "approving" isn't sure what they want you would be great presenter
21:17:58  matt montagne ->  @carol - I'm pretty much done with doing proposals for traditional conferences
21:18:02  mrsdurff ->  hi drew
21:18:19  Drew ->  Hey there Durrff, Matt et al :-)
21:18:25  Drew ->  oops
21:18:28  matt montagne ->  @carol and @melinda...thanks for kind words too
21:18:29  Drew ->  I meant Durff
21:18:33  matt montagne ->  hello Drew!
21:18:36  matt montagne ->  Hey Patrick!
21:18:49  pwoessner ->  hey matt...long time no see ;-)
21:18:55  mrsdurff ->  hello patrick
21:18:57  wfryer ->  @matt what would you like to see as a submission deadline for k12online09?
21:19:00  lisa parisi ->  Matt, are you really giving up on traditional conferences? Don't you think that's where the audience needs to hear you?
21:19:01  matt montagne ->  @pwoe ;-)
21:19:18  pwoessner ->  Hello Durff
21:19:20  matt montagne ->  @lisa, I don't think  it is the best use of my time...
21:19:30  matt montagne ->  hello Cheryl!
21:19:32  mrsdurff ->  cheryl oakes has entered the room - raise your skis
21:19:33  JoseRodriguez ->  Hey Cheryl..
21:19:34  Drew ->  Matt - just caught the tail end of that conversation point there - maybe you in future coudl contribute to a MirandaMod - which is Miranadnet's own form of UN conference
21:19:46  lisa parisi ->  But maybe it's where you voice can be heard the loudest..not just speaking to the choir.
21:19:46  matt montagne ->  @lisa, and I think the reach can be so much greater in something like K12online
21:19:50  melindamiller ->  you could probably just have two weeks of "live conversations" on different topics that would draw in new/more people because it is a live experience/ just throwing ideas out there
21:19:56  cheryloakes~ ->  Hello Matt, Durff, Jose, Lisa, Shelia and all.
21:20:05  cheryloakes~ ->  Hello Melindamiller
21:20:05  Drew ->  Hey Jose :-)
21:20:13  lisa parisi ->  Hi Cheryl
21:20:13  JoseRodriguez ->  Drew is in the House...
21:20:18  matt montagne ->  @Drew...that format sounds quite intriguing...
21:20:21  Drew ->  Lisa - hey there
21:20:24  matt montagne ->  hello minh!
21:20:25  melindamiller ->  hello my friend cheryloakes long time
21:20:26  mrsdurff ->  but less expensive
21:20:30  JoseRodriguez ->  And Ted.. is doing international calls now..
21:20:32  Drew ->  This is Drew Buddie aka digitalmaverick on Twitter
21:20:34  minh ->  G'day all
21:20:39  lisa parisi ->  Hi Drew!
21:20:51  melindamiller ->  yes i like the 20 min format
21:21:04  cheryloakes~ ->  I like the 20  min. format too!
21:21:09  Drew ->  What a great group of luminairies I am in the virtual company of tonight :-)
21:21:11  matt montagne ->  @minh and others just joining...we're getting an update on the K12Online conference, brainstorming new ideas, etc
21:21:34  Drew ->  Matt et al have you seen the TEDx franchise? Are you motivated to set up your own?
21:21:35  carolteach4 ->  Twitter links have made me aware of live streams that I've joined. Would never have known they were going on otherwise.
21:21:37  matt montagne ->  @Drew...I agree with your last statement, now that you are here of course!
21:21:51  matt montagne ->  @drew...I haven't seen Tedx...
21:21:52  Drew ->  Carol - absolutely - Twitter is PRICELESS for that
21:21:55  mrsdurff ->  hi elizabeth
21:22:10  lisa parisi ->  I would love to set up a TEDx
21:22:11  ehelfant ->  i keep losing connection and re-entering
21:22:14  mrsdurff ->  hi sheila
21:22:26  cheryloakes~ ->  Hey Carol, evening
21:22:41  matt montagne ->  are previous sessions licensed in Creative Commons???
21:22:43  Drew ->  Matt you REALLY (I mean *REALLY*) should incvestigate TEDx as an event its a way that ANYONE (any Tom Dick or Harry as we say in the UK) can set up their own licensed TED event!
21:23:15  cheritoledo ->  What about Tech & Learning announcement?
21:23:18  Drew ->  There's criteria to be met and a quite onerous online form to fill for TEDx
21:23:18  Sheila ->  Belated Hi MrsDurff.
21:23:27  matt montagne ->  @Drew...sounds quite intriguing...I will investigate...would be cool to do a San Francisco Bay Area TEDx Edu type of conference
21:23:37  cheryloakes~ ->  I can plug it on my next time at Tech Learning Cheri!
21:23:47  melindamiller ->  Edu TED?
21:23:48  mrsdurff ->  participation
21:23:49  cheryloakes~ ->  That is next 2nd Tuesday in August
21:23:51  carolteach4 ->  It is so important that the recorded streams be available in an accessible format (with good annotation) for folks to listen to later. I often have to listen a couple of times to online conversations just to absorb all the info. Being able to stop and take notes is also a real boon.
21:23:54  wfryer ->  we have discussed having a k12online "echo" show that might take place monthly
21:24:01  mrsdurff ->  the ability to connect
21:24:18  Drew ->  Yeah Matt find info here: http://www.ted.com/pages/view/id/264
21:24:20  Sheila ->  Sooo sllloooowwww tonight. Can't type . . . easily
21:24:28  cheryloakes~ ->  carolteach4, I agree it is a good thing to have the sessions to play back
21:24:36  mrsdurff ->  there is a learning curve with elluminate
21:24:55  Drew ->  We have archived video of TEACHMEET events ona Blip.TV stream so as to INSPIRE others who could not attend the events
21:25:04  cheryloakes~ ->  yes durff, Eluminate is good for small crowds, abigger crowd is very busy for many.
21:25:06  mrsdurff ->  hi chriss
21:25:29  chriss ->  hi
21:25:53  cheryloakes~ ->  LisaP you were the walmart greeter
21:25:59  carolteach4 ->  Hi, cheryloakes. I really tried to stay away, but curiosity got the better of me. TTT was so helpful last night - especially the Google part.
21:26:06  Drew ->  Here's yur video archive of all Teachmeet events in past year http://teachmeet.blip.tv/
21:26:08  Sheila ->  I think it's useful to have the chat broadcated. I could still follow along even though my screen wouldn't update.
21:26:20  mrsdurff ->  cheryl did she have smiley stickers?
21:26:33  cheryloakes~ ->  she should have Durff!
21:26:39  mrsdurff ->  :)
21:26:47  wfryer ->  has anyone here participated in one of the connectivism conferences?
21:27:00  minh ->  I did cck08
21:27:05  Drew ->  Wes I haven't what are those?
21:27:21  mrsdurff ->  minh are you looking at CCK09?
21:27:44  minh ->  definitely signed up as soon as I heard it was on
21:28:00  cheryloakes~ ->  you are talking about smaller fireside chats
21:28:07  mrsdurff ->  me too for the daily
21:28:23  cheryloakes~ ->  The first year, there were continued chats at 4-6 week intervals for a few sessions.
21:28:23  lisa parisi ->  Yes, Cheryl
21:28:27  matt montagne ->  web heads in action online convergence was quite successful this past May...what about using some of the things that really went well from that conference
21:28:54  matt montagne ->  don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either...K12Online has been a solid, solid conference
21:29:04  Drew ->  There are SO MANY education conferences/unconferences Tweeted nowadays that its ashame that no ONE body is aggregating/collecting/archiving ALL the output or reporting back from each
21:29:07  matt montagne ->  24 Hour webcast
21:29:30  lisa parisi ->  And you would moderate for all 24 hours. ;)
21:29:42  cheryloakes~ ->  Especially given that the conference is happening in December, it may be harder to organize small chats until January.
21:29:46  matt montagne ->  I'll take 3 hours... :-)
21:30:04  minh ->  Didn't know about TEDx until a moment ago & voila there is to be on ein my city next year! :)
21:30:08  mrsdurff ->  lost audio - may lose connection...
21:30:19  matt montagne ->  I would encourage K12ONline to take a look at a different vetting model for proposals...
21:30:20  mrsdurff ->  ah - i'm back for a while
21:30:28  mrsdurff ->  sighs - teens
21:30:31  matt montagne ->  I think you'll get more proposals if people know they'll be accepted
21:30:49  JL ->  if anyone would like to join the conversation, skype 'worldbridges'
21:30:54  Drew ->  Jose, how do I help out/volunteer? and if I do will I still be able to submit preso proposals? I submitted 4 last year but none got approved :-( will need to make next proposals stronger this time :-)
21:31:00  matt montagne ->  of course, a minimum standard would be expected...then it becomes more of a 'long-tail' type of model
21:31:14  Sheila ->  I like the idea of Sept so newbies can get their feet wet too.
21:31:24  mrsdurff ->  welcome back wes
21:31:34  matt montagne ->  wes, u must be on safari
21:31:56  Drew ->  I also think, to attract NEW BLOOD a MENTORING approach is good, where experienced hands can coax or support 1st time presenters
21:31:58  wfryer ->  and for northern hemisphere teachers, school is just starting... we thought about emphasizing teachers making connections with their classes for the term
21:32:09  wfryer ->  @matt yes I"m struggling in safari - should I do the chat in firefox instead?
21:32:09  cheritoledo ->  gotta run - I like the December date - the re-mix - Let me know where help is needed.
21:32:24  cheryloakes~ ->  yes Wes, try FF
21:32:33  wfryer ->  @Drew YES, I agree mentoring is the approach which has been successful and is proven
21:32:34  cheritoledo ->  @Wes - try Opera
21:32:40  cheritoledo ->  bye
21:32:42  matt montagne ->  @wes...I'm actually on Safari as well...this chat tool is less sluggish in Safari than FF
21:32:46  wfryer ->  ok, I'm out for a sec and will resurface in firefox!
21:32:47  Drew ->  erhaps in such circumstances the mentor could be a sensible choice as moderaotor chair of the mentee's sesison, as would know what to expect
21:32:49  matt montagne ->  Opera rocks!
21:32:58  matt montagne ->  welcome back minh
21:33:00  mrsdurff ->  welcome back mkn
21:33:03  mrsdurff ->  min
21:33:05  lisa parisi ->  I'm a flock person myself.
21:33:05  minh ->  :)
21:33:15  Sheila ->  In NH, it will take place during our state conference.
21:33:16  kcaise ->  same here @lisap
21:33:19  cheryloakes~ ->  Flock tanked on me lately LisaP
21:33:21  wfryer ->  call for volunteers out too!
21:33:22  Drew ->  hey there minh :-)
21:33:37  wfryer ->  http://k12onlineconference.org
21:33:38  minh ->  G'day Drew
21:33:42  lisa parisi ->  Haven't had any issues yet, Cheryl.  Fingers crossed.
21:34:14  cheryloakes~ ->  I should say LisaP that I haven't tried flock on ETT for 3 months, will try again
21:34:39  mrsdurff ->  Do we need to sign up if we were signed up by that Los Angeles guy already?
21:34:46  JoseRodriguez ->  :-)
21:35:00  Drew ->  Didn't Stephen Downes get a bit narky a couple of years ago about not being included in K-12online? I recall a REALLY narky post of his about it - an example of where not EVERYONE is happy with an event like this, mores the pity :-(
21:35:03  matt montagne ->  It would be cool to have an 'administrator' strand of some sort
21:35:08  cheryloakes~ ->  I would say that SEEDLiNGS ning will help if there are people who are putting proposals together and want feedback from a group of helpful educators! Join SEedlings ning and I will make a place for the conversations.
21:35:30  wfryer ->  @matt we have the "leading the change" strand to aim at administrative issues again
21:35:38  mrsdurff ->  subscripted - that's what we were
21:35:44  matt montagne ->  @wes...excellent
21:36:04  Drew ->  There's been a thread of discussion about Teachmeets doing more, in the UK, to atrtract new speakers, instead of the same old same old, I think mentor/mentee, or 'bring a friend' chanelleges are good for doing this
21:36:06  matt montagne ->  @Drew...I would think that the more sessions K12 has, the better
21:36:12  pwoessner ->  sounds like the PR chair will have some work to do...
21:36:13  wfryer ->  @Drew yes we had some interesting interactions with him in the past for sure
21:36:32  Drew ->  lol Wes - as I recall it was 'A listing' he didn't like
21:36:33  wfryer ->  the theme of "bridging the divide" can be extended in so many ways
21:36:53  wfryer ->  @Drew yes, he definitely doesn't like elitism
21:36:54  matt montagne ->  I've been thinking, perhaps, of trying to get the youth webcasters that I work with involved
21:37:00  matt montagne ->  we would be happy to do a live session
21:37:25  Drew ->  matt your students are fantastic ambassdors
21:37:37  carolteach4 ->  Seedlings Ning has really grown since Bob, Cheryl and Alice did their webcast on developing PLNs during the summer. You'd reach lots of educators and preeducators there.
21:37:40  lisa parisi ->  Have to head out.  Thanks for the chat.  Will listen to the rest in archive.  
21:37:44  ehelfant ->  phone dropped signal and I'm quiet anyway tonight so I'm going to hang in chat as long as I can keep connection
21:37:52  Drew ->  Perhaps k-12 needs a LEARNER starnd or at least encourages LEARNERS to put forward proposals
21:37:55  mrsdurff ->  Leading the Change? melinda!
21:38:00  matt montagne ->  the format of K12Online presos are transformationally different, but I would like to see the committee look at altering the vetting process as well...
21:38:18  matt montagne ->  the vetting process seems to be a bit "old school"
21:38:30  Drew ->  Ohhhhh there's sound! Sorry i only just erealised this
21:38:40  Drew ->  I am a moron sometimes :-(
21:38:49  JoseRodriguez ->  so...funny Drew..
21:39:16  Drew ->  I've realised I've been relying on text-based stuff til now, stupid me
21:39:23  mrsdurff ->  matt the word, "vett" is old school
21:39:36  Sheila ->  :)
21:39:42  carolteach4 ->  @Drew - I would like to see a Learner strand - a place where folks working with a new tool could get together and help each other.
21:39:59  wfryer ->  @matt you certainly could submit a proposal for a live event with students
21:40:20  kcaise ->  what is the difference between a vetting process and an approval process for presentations?
21:40:29  ehelfant ->  I'm hearing that we need to get the word out for the Sept LAN party and try to bring a buddy and teach newbies how to interact in that meeting space (elluminate)-that we should consider accepting all the proposals, and that we need more opportunity to have live interactions around specific sessions or with session presenters--and we need to extend the deadline
21:41:17  Sheila ->  @ehelfant - Good summary!
21:41:21  mireillem10 ->  yeah i'm in
21:41:25  ehelfant ->  and we have work to do getting the word out to extend the attendence to a greater audience
21:42:52  minh ->  being a buddy/mentor to likely participants is a good idea - too many people afraid to try afraid to ask for help
21:43:16  Drew ->  minh - I think mentoring has a great amount of potential for embracing others
21:43:31  cheryloakes~ ->  back
21:43:35  matt montagne ->  good point Jose
21:43:35  wfryer ->  so a good clarification to know is we have never been overwhelmed by tons and tons of proposals - in fact we've REALLY had to work and scramble in some strands to get 9 more presentations
21:43:36  Drew ->  and for persuading them to take part
21:43:53  cheryloakes~ ->  excellent point Jose
21:44:19  Sheila ->  Yeah!
21:44:22  JL ->  Maria's husband is just out of surgery
21:44:26  mrsdurff ->  Maria the cab girl and her english patient
21:44:35  carolteach4 ->  That mentoring factor is very important. I don't think I'd have become as involved in these forums without the encouragement of Durff, Sheila, Cheryl, SusanE, Matt, etc. Their welcome and encouragement (Jeff and Dave, too) is priceless.
21:44:39  cheryloakes~ ->  absolutely durff
21:44:59  mrsdurff ->  :)
21:44:59  Drew ->  Wes I appreciate you are very busy but it would have been useful to know WHY unsuccessful proposals were not approved as last yr I only found out my 4 had been not approved :-(
21:45:04  Sheila ->  Same here Carolteach4
21:45:19  Drew ->  ... so I didn't know what to avoid for submitting THIS year
21:45:43  matt montagne ->  I do want to say that I appreciate the work of K12Online...I find your work to be extraordinary
21:45:56  minh ->  mentor people to be mentors & let the network work
21:45:59  Drew ->  100% concur with your last comment Matt
21:46:00  matt montagne ->  again, don't throw baby out with the bathwater ;-)
21:46:12  cheryloakes~ ->  K12 has really grown since the beginning and I've appreciated the work and level of presentations.
21:47:19  matt montagne ->  I love the thinking Jeff
21:48:04  minh ->  support the novice presenters
21:48:09  Drew ->  What's the limiting factor for the NUMBER of presentations?
21:48:37  Drew ->  Wes of course now you have Twitter as a publicity drive
21:49:08  carolteach4 ->  How about having something like the smackdown - small pieces of a larger session - get newcomers involved even for three or four minute; they'd experience the rush of being online and presenting-maybe for the first time-but without the onus of having to speak for a long time. Of course, there would have to be a moderator to keep it moving from one short presentation to another.
21:49:27  wfryer ->  @drew one limiting factor is volunteer convener time. No one is compensated for this, and doing 10 presos in a strand takes a lot of time to put together with high quality
21:49:34  matt montagne ->  @carol...I love that idea
21:49:43  wfryer ->  the time to just format 10 posts per strand as we've done them in the past takes a LOT time
21:49:46  Drew ->  Carol - Tecahmeet in the UK has the format of 7 minute presentations or 2 minute micropresentations
21:49:53  Drew ->  oops TEACHMEET
21:49:58  minh ->  I too like carols idea
21:50:21  minh ->  But Wes is right - moderator time
21:50:26  matt montagne ->  I like the idea of 3-4 vetted presos for each of the 4 sessions, and then open it up to anyone...but the other sessions could be posted to YouTube, Voicethread, etc...or they could be even live
21:50:28  Drew ->  wes - thanks for that information re. limiting factors
21:50:34  kcaise ->  ed tech talk koolkaid?
21:51:06  cheryloakes~ ->  Kim, flavor of the evening?
21:51:14  JL ->  edtech edublogger web2.0 Kool-aid
21:51:17  kcaise ->  sounds yummmy
21:51:21  Sheila ->  Last year was my first experience with an unconference, k12 online. Did as night falls and listened to archives later. Synchronous was more important to me.
21:51:44  ehelfant ->  synchronous makes it deeper learning
21:51:51  cheryloakes~ ->  yes shelia, the synchronous really is the icing on the cake
21:51:59  minh ->  Post the presos on youtube & do a people's choice selection process for realtime conf participation?
21:52:00  ehelfant ->  better reflection and synthesis of thought
21:52:06  cheryloakes~ ->  yes ehelfant, the conversations and reflections are rich
21:52:08  matt montagne ->  1 Keynote for each of the four sessions, 3 sub-keynotes, and then long tail
21:52:10  wfryer ->  @elefant: yes, one of our big goals is to find ways to deepen synchronous learning opportunities
21:52:22  JoseRodriguez ->  sure.. but synchronous with content.. to consume. is the idea with the Virtual LAN parties...
21:52:26  wfryer ->  @matt so how would you decide how to name "sub-keynotes?"
21:52:27  mrsdurff ->  How many people can you personally invite to present? I invited two already - catch up!
21:52:44  kcaise ->  the 30 minute neccunplugged sessions were great too
21:52:46  Sheila ->  especially for a newbie . .
21:52:57  Drew ->  <CLAPS> @ Durff well done you :-)
21:53:05  minh ->  nurture the newbies
21:53:34  wfryer ->  idea of live events with plenary sessions
21:53:46  carolteach4 ->  @minh- you need the newbies in order to grow and for the newbies to grow
21:54:07  JoseRodriguez ->  ...... ok....... plenary sessions.. what ever that means... sure
21:54:24  mrsdurff ->  what high speed?
21:54:28  mrsdurff ->  not here
21:54:30  ehelfant ->  should we ask each presenter as part of the process if they would be willing to host their own synchronous discussion session and what tool they would use
21:54:34  Drew ->  Carol and 'Bring a Friend' challenge would be cool for encouraging newbies
21:54:48  JL ->  plenaries are when everyone at the conference gathers at the same time, right?  Hence the live component
21:54:56  mrsdurff ->  did you know Japan's broadband is both faster and cheaper than ours?
21:55:05  JoseRodriguez ->  got it plenary .. my fiend google friend clarified it for me.
21:55:36  Sheila ->  Good ideas Drew!
21:55:46  minh ->  @mrsdurf & Koreas is faster again
21:55:47  Drew ->  JL - pleanry is usually after the confernece has separated for different threads are brought back together for a formal ending to the day/event
21:55:47  carolteach4 ->  I have at least three folks at my school that have never participated in these sessions but that I could convince to joing me.
21:56:10  minh ->  @carol & then get them to bring a friend
21:56:15  kcaise ->  jeff!
21:56:20  Drew ->  BUT in UK schools plenary just means the final part of the lesson in whatever shape/form it may take
21:56:59  kcaise ->  mashable versions of former sessions
21:57:30  minh ->  meanwhile back at synchronous - tricky in a global sense
21:57:43  Drew ->  Also what about awarding a 'certificate' to those who present to recognise what they've done albeit 'unofficially' would be nice
21:58:23  minh ->  yes Drew all that & some publishing of the content will encourage
21:58:33  Drew ->  minh yes :-)
21:58:35  Sheila ->  For global cohesion - LAN unslumber party all over
21:58:49  mireillem10 ->  and i have issues
21:58:54  Drew ->  I've enjoyed this and will ensure I've a mike set up mext time
21:59:22  cheryloakes~ ->  Drew if you want to get feed back , come and join Seedlings for proposal feedback.
21:59:37  JL ->  just realized we lost you Elizabeth - would you like to come back in for a closing comment
21:59:40  cheryloakes~ ->  bitbybitseedlings.ning.com
22:00:00  carolteach4 ->  I am going to see if I can get some teachers involved in the K-12 online and see if I can get the powers that be at our school give them CEU's for participating.
22:00:02  matt montagne ->  Great work K12Online Team...
22:00:11  ehelfant ->  I'm good- I'm feeling shy and without connection power tonight:)
22:00:13  cheryloakes~ ->  great idea carolteach4
22:00:13  Drew ->  cheryl :-) I'll do that, but just didn't know what was wrong with my presos last yr so as to avoid same deficiencies this  year :-)
22:00:16  JoseRodriguez ->  cool.. Thanks
22:00:31  ehelfant ->  I'm enjoying the chat and taking notes on sentiments expressed
22:00:46  DaveC ->  Hi everyone!
22:00:49  cheryloakes~ ->  there may not have been anything wrong Drew, just a tweak
22:00:56  matt montagne ->  hello DaveC!
22:01:08  DaveC ->  Hi Matt
22:01:12  matt montagne ->  also, I would try to get all presenters to submit their presos with CC licenses
22:01:17  matt montagne ->  hello Jen!
22:01:23  Drew ->  cheryl, bless you :-)
22:01:37  Drew ->  good point Matt re CC
22:01:50  Jen ->  love it -- he said CLOSING THOUGHTS??   :)
22:01:59  Jen ->  sorry, I wandered in late
22:02:05  chriss ->  Nice to see what's up with k12online again this year. You all put on a fantastic show.
22:02:36  Drew ->  cheers Cheryl :-)
22:02:40  DaveC ->  Could people submit requests for presentations?  ie, Beginners saying what they are looking for?
22:02:51  kcaise ->  hi dave
22:02:56  mrsdurff ->  ok, just invited 52 people - and you?
22:03:10  Jen ->  will there be NOT K12 again???
22:03:15  cheryloakes~ ->  Durff doesn't it count that I invited all the seedlings ning today?
22:03:32  mrsdurff ->  yes it counts
22:03:38  wfryer ->  sept 26th then as an initial LAN party, for k12online echo?
22:04:03  mrsdurff ->  clap clap clap
22:04:09  kcaise ->  all right!
22:04:14  mireillem10 ->  me
22:04:23  mireillem10 ->  me-ray
22:04:27  JoseRodriguez ->  hi..
22:04:31  kcaise ->  congrats @mireille
22:04:35  cheryloakes~ ->  Hi Me-ray!! Cheryl here
22:04:40  mireillem10 ->  i am
22:04:43  amckiel ->  thanks for the chat :-)
22:04:43  matt montagne ->  Hello Mireille!
22:04:47  kcaise ->  @jose, check your DM on twitter
22:04:54  Drew ->  G'night all from Rickmansworth where its 3am
22:04:54  Sheila ->  So  stay here fore WCA?
22:04:54  minh ->  thanx all :)
22:04:59  matt montagne ->  Thanks, everyone, for contributing to the Brainstorm 2nite
22:05:06  matt montagne ->  bye Maria!
22:05:15  matt montagne ->  :-) Don't get vacuumed!
22:05:46  kcaise ->  night jose
22:05:57  mrsdurff ->  bye jose
22:06:09  mrsdurff ->  hit record mireille
22:06:11  kcaise ->  jeff is the expert!