EdTechWeekly#197 / EdTechTalk #85 - ETT's 6th Anniversary
June 5, 2011
6 Year Anniversary Celebration of EdTechTalk#1
Chat Log Below
19:00:45 Harold -> Hi Dave & gang
19:01:22 dawn -> thx
19:01:59 Harold -> Happy friggin' Anniversary!
19:02:41 Harold -> I think I'm listening on IceCast - working
19:03:33 Harold -> Icecast died - now on ustream
19:04:15 Harold -> youz guys & gals are experts!
19:04:55 Harold -> irony is OK, but don''t be too cynical, IMO
19:06:29 Harold -> It's hurting right now
19:06:50 JenM -> content or audio quality?
19:06:54 Harold -> audio, Jeff
19:07:08 Harold -> I was around for that one
19:07:27 canugurl -> sounds okay from here....
19:07:31 Harold -> Icecast kicks in when listening to ustream
19:07:42 Harold -> I keep getting double-speak
19:07:43 Jennifer W -> Happy Anniversary!!
19:07:44 JenM -> is that Jdub????
19:07:50 JenM -> yeahhhh!
19:08:06 Jennifer W -> Sorry --- I have been AWOL --
19:08:26 Harold -> I have to keep turning off one of the streams - weird
19:09:37 Harold -> I must say that you folks were the leaders & a great inspiration - maybe not tonight though ;)
19:09:39 Jennifer W -> Jen -- are you still in IL???
19:10:18 Harold -> #84 Rocks!
19:11:24 JenM -> @JW ... yes ... in Chi-town
19:11:58 Jennifer W -> When I watch Cake Boss -- Hoboken, I believe -- I think of you, JenM :)
19:12:42 Harold -> Eliminate is a much better descriptor
19:13:17 Paula Naugle -> Can't hear anything what am I doing wrong?
19:13:33 Jennifer W -> Did you click on the USTREAM LINK??
19:13:39 jhando -> @Paula the Icecast worked for me
19:13:43 Harold -> click on one of the options on the right, Paula
19:14:10 Paula Naugle -> Okay got it. Thanks.
19:17:00 Paula Naugle -> This looks like a vodcast when you click on ustream link.
19:17:13 jhando -> There's now video which is innovation.
19:17:37 Harold -> Technology is the application of organised and scientific knowledge to solve practical problems.
19:18:05 Jennifer W -> I think EdTechTalk was a master of trying new things -- which sometimes worked and sometimes didn't (grins) -- but always trying new things
19:18:07 Harold -> I remember th eearly shows as being very interactive (despite my crappy audio quality)
19:18:18 Bud -> Happy anniversary, y'all.
19:18:33 Harold -> Hi Bud!
19:18:34 Jennifer W -> and using us as guinea pigs....dragging us along to try new things as well. (esp chat rooms & video feeds)
19:19:20 Jennifer W -> and of course -- my all time favorite -- POST SHOW!!! LOVE Post Show!!!
19:20:04 jhando -> I remember not being able to paste links into chat.... hasn't changed ;-)
19:20:07 JenM -> I used to say "the convergence of messy and magical" ;)
19:20:08 Bud -> What I always liked about the space here is that y'all do - you ship - you get audio out -
19:20:58 Jennifer W -> and when Jeff or Dave did the 365 experiment?? that was fun.....
19:21:11 jhando -> Everyone's probably busier now with so many other technologies, talks, books, etc in this space
19:21:20 Jennifer W -> I liked the fact that you URGED us to fail -- but you were there to help us
19:22:03 Jennifer W -> and how we PUSHED things til they broke....just to see how far we could push
19:22:34 Bud -> I still miss the guests. Y'all're good interviewers.
19:22:44 Paula Naugle -> Went to first tech conference - NECC in New Orleans in 2004. Didn't know what they were talking about - podcasts, wikis, blogs, Nings, Moodle, etc. Come away determined to learn. Boy that seems so long ago.
19:23:29 Jennifer W -> and another memory -- Jen's husband waiting in the closet til the show was over. :)
19:23:46 JenM -> @JW .. oh, yay!
19:24:27 Bud -> But, Jeff - you're good at it.
19:24:35 Jennifer W -> where is John Schinker???
19:24:45 Bud -> aw, heck
19:24:50 Bud -> I was responding to him
19:24:55 Bud -> you are a fine team.
19:24:58 JenM -> ... at a family picnic ... he should be joining us soon
19:25:05 Bud -> I;'ll explicitly mention Jen and Dave and Jeff. Bravo, TEAM.
19:25:21 Jennifer W -> you were our twitter before twitter
19:26:00 Bud -> You know, maybe interviews aren't so good
19:27:53 JenM -> http://www.delicious.com/edtechtalk
19:28:14 Harold -> LMS = snake oil
19:28:30 Paula Naugle -> I use Edmodo as my LMS with 4th graders.
19:28:41 Harold -> yes, Dave - WP is a better option than an LMS
19:29:17 Cathy E -> Don't forget that many of us in the US don't have bandwidth either
19:29:20 Harold -> Oligopolies rule Canada :(
19:29:45 Jennifer W -> Wordpress began in 2003
19:29:56 Jennifer W -> so says their website
19:30:19 dawn -> I wonder about edublog verson. Does it allow students to have their own blog?
19:30:37 Harold -> but blogger is not open source - own your data
19:31:03 jhando -> Unfortunately we are driven by assessments here so Moodle is still best option ie. gradebooks etc
19:31:12 Jennifer W -> DRUPAL --- what a headache -- but what a triumph. Learned a lot but lost a lot of hair
19:31:12 Harold -> even Microsoft shifted their Live accounts to WordPress
19:31:34 Harold -> Drupal is great (for industrial strength applications)
19:31:59 Jennifer W -> being able to tear drupal apart made me not hesitate at all with tweaking my word press (self-hosted) blog
19:32:01 JenM -> http://jmaddrell.blogspot.com/
19:33:49 Jennifer W -> crum--- where is Durff and Doug?? gonna tweet this out again
19:34:49 Paula Naugle -> Durff's at the beach.
19:35:21 Jennifer W -> @Paula -- thinking of past shows.....where are all the hosts?
19:36:32 Jennifer W -> for 3+ years of my life -- this was my Home on the Web
19:36:33 Harold -> social - on the institution's terms - is not social
19:37:18 Bud -> Oh, Furl. How I miss thee.
19:37:29 Paula Naugle -> I've only attended a half dozen times. Need to add this to Google calendar so I remember to come.
19:37:30 Harold -> I remember when Furl was my social bookmark tool too :) went south just like Magnolia
19:37:33 Bud -> It's true.
19:37:56 jhando -> Is this social?
19:38:15 Harold -> yes, it's still Bud's message on Skype ;)
19:38:43 JenM -> http://jmaddrell.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html
19:38:51 Bud -> Why mess with what works?
19:39:57 Harold -> CONTROL
19:40:07 jhando -> Rubrics are for progress and improvement, gradual improvement
19:41:03 dave -> http://wikieducator.org/User:Davecormier/Books/Educational_Technology_an...
19:41:06 jhando -> Same things happens in workplace ie. appraisals
19:41:25 Jennifer W -> If a teacher only judges the project based on a rubric, I believe they will miss a lot about the projects. Rubrics (to me) limit creativity
19:41:47 Jennifer W -> limit uniqueness perhaps would be a better word choice
19:42:36 jhando -> Rubric should be written by students
19:43:07 jhando -> It's like goal setting in learning process
19:43:17 Paula Naugle -> I find I want to change project rubric after proects are turned in because I see things I didn't include on original rbric.
19:43:36 jhando -> @Paula v true
19:45:06 jhando -> Schools are addicted to measuring unfort
19:45:34 jhando -> Or is it parents addicted to it? Or governments?
19:45:35 Paula Naugle -> Rubrics seem like easy way out when grading, definitely need to include a box which require instructor to add comments.
19:46:04 jhando -> Students always tell me that comments are the most important feedback
19:46:06 jeff -> we should start our post show soon
19:46:24 Cathy E -> What about ISTE? Anybody going?
19:46:38 Harold -> "am I some kind of idiot?" (I refuse to answer that)
19:46:52 JenM -> @harold ... he he he
19:47:09 jhando -> Question: what's the largest number of ppl in EdTechTalk chat over 6 years?
19:47:16 Jennifer W -> No -- to ISTE
19:47:30 Paula Naugle -> I'm going to ISTE.
19:48:12 dave -> in the chat? maybe close to 100 once...
19:48:16 Jennifer W -> It is WAY too early for POST SHOW
19:48:56 Jennifer W -> I think the night WOW2 had the Posse group on, we were close to 100.
19:49:13 jhando -> 100 and nothing broke?
19:49:25 Jennifer W -> we broke skype before we broke EdTechTalk
19:49:44 Paula Naugle -> Hi Maria.
19:49:47 jhando -> there was a time when skype broke often
19:49:52 MariaK -> hello
19:50:00 jhando -> now the interface (at least on Mac) is broken ;-)
19:50:12 jhando -> hi MariaK
19:50:20 jhando -> where are u from?
19:50:37 MariaK -> Thought i'd catch the last 10 minutes instead of listening later!
19:51:12 Bud -> keep up the good work, ysll. Especially Dave. Because I'd hate for him to feel left out.
19:51:44 Cathy E -> My staff gets much more PD online
19:52:09 JenM -> An attempt to describe informal PD via twitter: http://bigthink.com/ideas/38698
19:52:10 Jennifer W -> My staff needs to start considering PD online
19:52:50 Jennifer W -> JenM -- I was #1 on that list.... it was nice of Scott to include me. :)
19:52:57 Paula Naugle -> I'm presenting an all day workkshop for 25 tech coordinators on Wed. I'm very nervous.
19:53:09 jhando -> Accreditation is probably number one factor for choosing pd events
19:53:28 jhando -> @Paula what's the focus of preso?
19:53:37 Cathy E -> We are using the chat in Google Apps for PD
19:53:53 Harold -> those who own accreditation, control the system
19:53:56 Cathy E -> very informal - but it works
19:53:59 Jennifer W -> I list WOW2 on my resume
19:54:01 Paula Naugle -> Beleive it or not they asked me to present Web 2.0 tools.
19:54:16 MariaK -> It also depends on the school district. Some districts accept a variety of PD - not just formal. We use a portfolio based PD reporting so my reflections about how I learn and how it affects my practice can include EdTechTalk.
19:54:22 jhando -> @Paula good luck with it
19:54:32 JenM -> Oh, yeah ... http://twitter.com/#!/jenwagner/status/76105131342561280
19:54:42 dawn -> @MariaK nice
19:54:48 Paula Naugle -> @jhando Thank you.
19:55:59 jhando -> Why wld a teacher care if they already are trained and earning their dough?
19:56:10 Jennifer W -> That post was very easy to knee-jerk to if you did not read it carefully. He seemed to be knocking neighbor fence conversations but he really was not
19:56:11 Paula Naugle -> Is there any info on number of admins, principals, teachers, who blog?
19:56:28 Jennifer W -> NO NO NO -- not post show???
19:56:31 Jennifer W -> its too early
19:56:46 jhando -> I wld estimate there's 1-2 in each school blogging, if that
19:56:47 Jennifer W -> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!
19:56:59 Cathy E -> Ya'll ROCK!!!
19:57:09 Jennifer W -> OH, we are starting a new show in September -- but will talk with you later
19:57:11 Paula Naugle -> Happy Anniversary to you.
19:57:32 Jennifer W -> you will be around in September???
19:57:39 MariaK -> So glad i could be here to say Happy Anniversary. meet most of my best friends here!
19:57:42 Jennifer W -> and remember the 24 hour sessions???
19:57:42 jhando -> Good on everyone for sticking with it for 6 yrs
19:58:33 Harold -> nothing in life is permanent
19:58:43 Jennifer W -> understood but sadness
19:59:07 Paula Naugle -> You have been responsible for helping so many to learn. Thank you.
20:01:21 dawn -> wow good for you
20:02:01 Jennifer W -> EdTechTalk gave me confidence to talk out my thoughts.....so THANK YOU for all you have offered generously to us all.
20:02:30 dave -> he's just about to say that he misses talking to us
20:02:32 dave -> anytime now
20:02:45 dave -> he's going to say "talking to you guys is something i really mis"
20:03:28 JenM -> @jw ... great point ... "confidence to talk" ... and I'll add ... ability to summarize a whole bunch of stuff you are seeing out there in the world
20:04:15 Paul Ellerman -> WOW its been 6 years! Holy cow!!
20:04:52 Jennifer W -> Dr Jen??
20:05:31 MariaK -> EdTechTalk help me begin my new life - connected learning, connected classroom, connected person. Gave me the energy to keep going. A new beginning. My 6 year anniversary of listening is July.
20:05:40 Paul Ellerman -> I remember those old shows....
20:06:07 Jennifer W -> well if EDTECHTALK is ending the season -- WE HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL CELEBRATION!!!
20:06:23 sr -> everything I know about tech I learned at edtech talk
20:06:30 Jennifer W -> POST SHOW!!!!!
20:06:33 MariaK -> Better than EdTech Corpse!
20:06:35 Harold -> EdTechTalk Rulz!
20:06:38 Jennifer W -> .....happy dance......
20:07:29 Jennifer W -> CONGRATULATIONS ..... you have changed lives!!!
20:08:03 dawn -> 200 shows = cake :D
20:08:12 Jennifer W -> POST SHOW COMMENCES!!!
20:08:43 Jennifer W -> oops -- wrong button
20:09:08 Jennifer W -> we need a memory show
20:09:24 Jennifer W -> how old ARE Oscar and Posey now??
20:09:30 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe
20:10:18 Jennifer W -> he dressed as a frog??
20:10:34 Cathy E -> they are sooo cute
20:11:10 JenM -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe/5752591501/in/photostream
20:13:16 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe/5739269203/in/photostream
20:13:36 JenM -> http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org/
20:14:00 Jennifer W -> I thought that was your EdTechTalk set up area :)
20:14:55 Jennifer W -> I cannot ---
20:14:56 JenM -> http://chicagonakedride.org/
20:14:59 Jennifer W -> but I will next week
20:15:10 Jennifer W -> please don't make this your last show
20:15:14 Jennifer W -> but thank you for POST SHOW
20:15:47 Jennifer W -> LOL -- gotta love topics on Post Show. :)
20:16:04 JenM -> http://wiki.worldnakedbikeride.org/index.php?title=Halifax
20:16:17 Jennifer W -> EXACTLY !!
20:16:29 Jennifer W -> we must have tried 10 different chat room scenarios
20:16:34 Cathy E -> can't see the chat on my ipad
20:16:54 Jennifer W -> I could not paste URL eithers -- or text
20:16:58 dawn -> chrome helps
20:17:28 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/EdTechTalk1_part1
20:18:41 Jennifer W -> the new look (sorry it might not be new) is DRUPAL -- or WordPress??
20:19:08 dawn -> gotta run..thanks for the show
20:19:30 sr -> Thank you all... gotta run too
20:21:32 Jennifer W -> do you think your audience is much more TALKING than WRITING??
20:22:05 Cathy E -> I still have my tee shirt
20:22:17 MariaK -> I still have my WOW hat - thanks JenW
20:22:19 Jennifer W -> 4th of July Pops
20:22:32 Jennifer W -> wow, Maria --- you probably own the only one
20:22:35 MariaK -> Driving up to PEI in July with Amanda from Brisbane
20:23:32 MariaK -> YEs sir
20:23:45 MariaK -> we must!
20:23:55 MariaK -> tell me how.
20:24:01 Jennifer W -> and you must do the Anne of Green Gables tour --- and take lots of pictures
20:24:08 MariaK -> Looking for a place to stay as I type. yes
20:24:21 MariaK -> yes we are through ed tech talk hosts
20:24:44 Jennifer W -> you have THAT much property??
20:25:10 Jennifer W -> that's a lot
20:25:22 Jennifer W -> but not like 30 million acres ;)
20:25:33 Jennifer W -> so it is wooded
20:25:47 Cathy E -> will you have internet out there?
20:26:34 Jennifer W -> how exciting -- congratulations
20:26:36 Cathy E -> welcome to my world
20:26:39 MariaK -> @Cathy E - unlike some folks who move and then lose their connectivity! :(
20:26:40 Cathy E -> we have phone box
20:26:44 Cathy E -> but no broadband
20:27:09 MariaK -> What part of PEI, Dave?
20:27:11 Jennifer W -> Do you have room in your car, MariaK??
20:27:23 Jennifer W -> sounds delicious
20:27:24 MariaK -> yes - we're leaving after ISTE
20:27:39 Jennifer W -> so it has no buildings on it -- you will be building??
20:27:46 MariaK -> Used to visit PEI each summer for a few years.
20:27:58 MariaK -> Love the Canadian maritimes
20:28:15 Cathy E -> my house is on pilings - had to so we can get flood insurance
20:28:55 JenM -> Here is a cottage ... http://www.48in48.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110604-032132.jpg
20:28:56 Jennifer W -> well I do need to head out -- but THANK YOU for this...... You all have helped me greatly -- and I do THANK YOU
20:29:23 Cathy E -> haha Jen
20:30:36 Cathy E -> we need to have an edtech meetup at ISTE
20:31:07 MariaK -> Cathy - I won't ever forget when we met at ISTE, long ago. Can't wait to see you again.
20:31:24 MariaK -> I can't get the links to work
20:33:20 Cathy E -> thanks for all you have done
20:33:24 JenM -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmaddrell/5797962884/
20:34:06 MariaK -> Thanks Jeff and Dave and Jen. Great to hear you live! Thanks for everything.
20:34:27 MariaK -> no
20:34:30 MariaK -> not yet
20:34:37 MariaK -> surely -
20:34:43 MariaK -> yes I will
20:34:51 MariaK -> yes I am
20:34:59 Cathy E -> night all
20:35:32 MariaK -> Amanda will bring her Aussie rum!