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EdTechTalk Development Meeting
June 4, 2007
Chat Log Below
20:57:50 arvind -> hey there
20:58:03 Doug-GoSens -> greetings
20:58:06 arvind -> Doug, this game is awesome
20:58:07 JL -> Jen has asked to try gizmo
20:58:12 arvind -> i am a little behind, love the DVR
20:58:26 Doug-GoSens -> glad you're watching Arvind
20:59:00 arvind -> some Americans like hockey
20:59:05 JL -> current conf call number (in gizmo) 1-222-6846849
20:59:07 arvind -> from Pittsburgh, grew up watching Mario
20:59:14 arvind -> hey Jeff
20:59:17 Doug-GoSens -> cool
20:59:29 Jeff from Ann Arbor -> Hi Arvind and all
20:59:35 Doug-GoSens -> speakin' o' which, I hear they made "The Kid" capt this week, Pens that is
20:59:44 Doug-GoSens -> hey J from A
21:00:07 mizmercer -> Is this for the webcast academy, etc.?
21:00:08 Jeff from Ann Arbor -> Hi Doug - Kill the ducks!
21:00:19 JoseR -> Hi Alice
21:00:28 mizmercer -> hi jose!
21:00:28 Doug-GoSens -> 1-0 Ottawa
21:00:32 arvind -> He lives with Mario, I guess he was going to be a captain, right?
21:00:37 arvind -> doug, spoiler!
21:00:43 mizmercer -> Are they talking hockey?
21:00:45 Doug-GoSens -> oppps
21:00:49 Doug-GoSens -> sorry forgot
21:00:49 arvind -> we are
21:00:50 arvind -> :)
21:00:52 arvind -> it's ok
21:00:59 mizmercer -> UGH, at least it's not basketball
21:01:04 Doug-GoSens -> I won't tell you who ;)
21:01:22 JoseR -> I am in ESL class tonight. I'll follow as much as I can.
21:01:22 arvind -> wait, are we skypeing or something else?
21:01:33 JL -> skype 'worldbridges'
21:02:24 Doug-GoSens -> funny, I was looking for the skypecast
21:02:27 Doug-GoSens -> logging in, et al
21:02:28 JoseR -> it's just ringing
21:02:32 Doug-GoSens -> hilarious
21:02:34 mizmercer -> yep
21:03:02 mizmercer -> Oh busy girl jen
21:03:32 mizmercer -> That was my son,
21:03:45 mizmercer -> I assume that was what was so humorous to all
21:03:56 JoseR -> Arvind is the man
21:04:04 arvind -> hi Jose
21:04:16 arvind -> woot, new webcast!
21:04:41 mizmercer -> COMMIT!
21:04:55 JL -> I am preparing to build a place to start the EdTechTalkK12 home. Anne Leftwich and I are looking at hosting a weekly (?) webcast that focuses more on K12 classroom practices. I can build a drupal on my Bluehost account or should I build one on the WB server. I want to be as connected as possible to the WB/ETT community but don't want to tax resources, I have appropriate alternatives. Jeff, when I asked before you said you were really neutral. If you are still really neutral, then I am thinking about building something that is a component of the WB/ETT world. I know I don't know or can comprehend all of this issues involved but alas I am awaiting enlightenment and planning on it coming in a day or two. ;)
21:05:32 JoseR -> Jeff is good at being neutral
21:06:35 JoseR -> I would rather use edtechtalk server space
21:07:06 JoseR -> Hi Doug
21:07:26 JoseR -> Who are the Sens
21:07:26 Doug-GoSens -> hey Jose, and all
21:07:42 Doug-GoSens -> Ottawa Senators
21:07:54 Doug-GoSens -> hockey team, playing Annaheim for Stanley Cup
21:08:09 mizmercer -> I find it confusing that there are different sites.
21:08:20 arvind -> me yoo mizmercer
21:08:24 arvind -> me too even
21:08:43 mizmercer -> And wasn't your Thurs show/mtg about maintaining the web pages?
21:09:26 CathyE -> stream or skypecast?
21:09:44 JL -> skype worldbridges
21:09:49 mizmercer -> skype to world bridge
21:11:10 mizmercer -> We are talking about starting some new shows, maybe there needs to be a discussion about who is responsible for what...
21:11:22 Brad Hicks -> will just listen in Jeff and put comments here - i may have to step out to keep an eye on my daughter
21:11:51 mizmercer -> Yeah, well you see how well I'm handling parenting and this conf call at the same time, lol
21:12:20 JoseR -> I am handling adult ESL students with conference
21:12:47 mizmercer -> Adult ESL class vs. my one high energy child, hmmm what's nosier?
21:13:22 JoseR -> adults are pretty silent. It takes 6 months to get them to talk
21:13:48 Lee -> Hello
21:13:56 JoseR -> I am into webcasting not neccesarily other stuff
21:14:03 JL -> Hi Lee - skype worldbridges if you like
21:14:24 Lee -> ok thanks
21:16:22 arvind -> that is often a problem at conferences, no documentation
21:16:32 arvind -> people are psyched up during, and don't do much after
21:16:35 Lee -> That was rotton
21:16:42 Lee -> rotten
21:17:14 Durff -> bar camp?
21:17:26 arvind -> http://barcamp.org 
21:17:33 mizmercer -> I'm muted?
21:17:40 arvind -> whoah, audio going crazy for me
21:17:43 JoseR -> not me
21:17:48 Doug-GoSens -> that's better
21:19:13 Durff -> ouch
21:19:24 mizmercer -> It looked that way to me at first...
21:19:44 mizmercer -> The del-icio.us links helped it make sense, but
21:19:51 Brad Hicks -> is there a way of having a help guide that can be linked to across all sites? So it is centralised and then distributed back to other sites
21:19:58 mizmercer -> Every show has different "documents"
21:20:15 mizmercer -> Some use google docs, some use wikispaces. I NEVER know until I'm AT the show.
21:20:56 mizmercer -> As a newbie, I don't mind that WoW using wikispaces, but it's not clear before your listening to the show.
21:20:56 arvind -> fragmented or specialized - which are we?
21:21:20 Durff -> let the chatroom know when the audio is ok
21:21:35 mizmercer -> Since I like reviewing the docs FIRST, it's a little annoying.
21:21:42 mizmercer -> Audio is fine
21:21:55 Durff -> not here
21:21:58 mizmercer -> At least clear linking of what Alice is talking about
21:22:06 mizmercer -> skype worldbridges
21:22:09 arvind -> Durff, audio bad for you?
21:22:12 arvind -> Good for us
21:22:13 Durff -> logging put and trying again...
21:23:27 Lee -> Agreed
21:23:52 mizmercer -> Lee was that agreed with me or about the audio?
21:25:01 Doug-GoSens -> brb
21:25:12 arvind -> nervous moments there Doug
21:26:07 Doug-GoSens -> lol, nope, samlab needed some attention
21:26:26 Durff -> no, you can;t drive me crazy, I'm already there
21:26:39 JoseR -> Hi durff
21:26:47 Durff -> hi jose
21:26:50 Doug-GoSens -> that's the dog, as opposed the site Arvind
21:27:24 arvind -> got it
21:27:38 JoseR -> I will do half
21:27:38 Durff -> how do you look at someone virtually?
21:28:25 Durff -> audio is meandering...
21:28:31 Durff -> maybe it's ok
21:28:35 Durff -> oh no
21:29:17 Durff -> what paperwork?
21:30:08 Durff -> so standarize is what alice is saying?
21:30:18 mizmercer -> Yeah, but there is a standard...
21:30:21 Durff -> rtfm?
21:30:25 mizmercer -> Is what Jeff told me.
21:30:27 arvind -> read the freakin' manual
21:30:32 Durff -> do we want to know?
21:30:34 mizmercer -> Thank you!
21:31:11 mizmercer -> only usually the word is not freakin'
21:31:20 arvind -> that's true
21:31:36 mizmercer -> Add the color blue to WB!
21:31:44 arvind -> my favorite tech person acronym though certainly is PEBKAC
21:31:45 Lee -> i am happy to start being m ore attentive to the sites i have been working on
21:32:03 Lee -> It is not that much trouble .. one just needs to develop the habit
21:32:04 arvind -> oooh Ajax, yes
21:32:15 arvind -> Bill Fitzgerald, please get on that
21:32:15 mizmercer -> I want to see that pageflake that Dave built...
21:32:28 Durff -> no you don't
21:32:32 mizmercer -> I tried something from Google site search with google reader.
21:32:41 mizmercer -> Why not?
21:32:44 arvind -> Dave's pageflake: http://www.pageflakes.com/cormier/11091021 
21:32:57 Durff -> complex
21:33:14 mizmercer -> hey, I'm 42!
21:33:19 Lee -> hello dave
21:33:23 mizmercer -> Does that make me the meaning of life?
21:33:31 Durff -> standarize the tags!
21:33:57 Lee -> Hello Dave
21:34:05 mizmercer -> Okay, that was embarrassing!
21:34:06 dave -> hi lee
21:34:07 Durff -> ww07 + showtitle + episode # and/or name
21:34:18 mizmercer -> I came in an hour later, and thought it was LIVE.
21:34:24 mizmercer -> Talk about feeling like an idiot.
21:34:38 Durff -> I was working
21:34:38 mizmercer -> I LIKE Dave's pageflake.
21:34:44 mizmercer -> That is good
21:34:52 Durff -> is tags work
21:34:57 Durff -> his
21:35:26 Durff -> how do you give a secret handshke virtually?
21:35:27 JoseR -> Dave's presentation was cool
21:35:54 arvind -> technology failed? no...
21:35:58 Durff -> it was too short - they didn't give him enough time
21:36:11 mizmercer -> Hey, that's the flake to add. the secret society generator!
21:36:12 arvind -> i always tell teachers, don't worry, this will always work, especially when i'm not there to help
21:36:31 Durff -> :)
21:38:58 Durff -> focus
21:39:49 Durff -> i is
21:41:11 Durff -> on the front page, did anyone look at the comments?
21:45:51 Doug-GoSens -> just looking now Lisa, we got "people'd"
21:46:00 arvind -> spam
21:46:33 Durff -> who are those populating people?
21:46:36 dave -> just read the chat... thanks for the kind words
21:47:12 Durff -> speak for yourself
21:48:24 Lee -> How much does another server cost to purchase and run a year?
21:48:43 DS-GoSens -> JL said "bout 100/mo, I think
21:48:59 Lee -> so 1000 not including purchase
21:49:07 DS-GoSens -> so 1200 for the yr for the bandwidth
21:49:25 DS-GoSens -> right, that's w/out the hardware
21:50:18 arvind -> right on Dave
21:50:19 Durff -> you paying?
21:50:29 Lee -> perhaps it would be smarter to find a way to purchase that for starters and its maintenance so ther is more than one server but it is not costing one person money
21:50:42 arvind -> i love awkward situations, i seem to always get myself into them
21:51:25 Durff -> and the probably won't
21:52:17 Durff -> but upon what is it based?
21:52:24 Durff -> foundation
21:52:46 Durff -> your foundation is relationship-community
21:53:03 Durff -> quirkieness?
21:53:33 Durff -> less law bound
21:53:46 Durff -> more relationship based
21:53:52 Durff -> goo thoughts
21:54:00 Durff -> i cconcur
21:55:01 arvind -> i agree, i like a writeup on edtechtalkiness
21:55:15 Durff -> so done to the nitty gritty-
21:55:41 Durff -> in 6 weeks lets have A), B), & C) completed
21:56:16 Durff -> A) schedule of shows with what are we calling 'em?
21:56:28 arvind -> A - as in better calendar?
21:56:33 mizmercer -> Why did KoreaBridges get nailed, I wonder?
21:56:47 Durff -> B) written definitions of those two terms Jeff used
21:57:01 arvind -> worldbridginess and edtechtalkiness?
21:57:03 Durff -> yes arvind
21:57:28 Durff -> noi, domain masters
21:57:33 Durff -> or something
21:57:35 mizmercer -> I WANT STRUCTURE!
21:57:40 Durff -> el jeff for eachshow
21:57:57 Durff -> i'm trying alice
21:58:06 mizmercer -> BUT, I'm willing to do structure...
21:58:18 JenMad -> ... thanks for the 7 show update ... but isn't it now 8? :)
21:58:24 Lee -> In one sense it needs to progress somewhat on its own as we continue to commit to some clear actions
21:58:25 arvind -> how about principles of practice for edtechtalk shows?
21:58:30 Lee -> for example
21:58:33 arvind -> or back to my original thought of just asking people questions
21:58:50 Lee -> if we write a grant.. and it is for the edtechtalk site
21:58:54 Durff -> C) webmaster schedule - people who correct things kije # of show on frontpage on a circulating calendar
21:58:54 Lee -> to continue what we do
21:58:58 dave -> LOL
21:59:13 mizmercer -> Okay, how many beers are out there?
21:59:19 dave -> beer?
21:59:44 Durff -> then itr evolves....but you need to begin...
21:59:45 mizmercer -> Ya know, it's after dinner, we've had a beer, and we're shooting the bull
22:00:00 Durff -> yes dave so you can go get your beer
22:00:02 dave -> What is your favourite colour?
22:00:18 mizmercer -> Well, I'm "blue" tonight.
22:00:23 Durff -> not beer
22:00:30 mizmercer -> blue= questionable language
22:00:46 Durff -> i thought it was sad
22:01:00 mizmercer -> It can be that too, but in this case....
22:01:12 dave -> http://vre.upei.ca/node/add/vre-request 
22:01:21 Durff -> oh dear, a criminal!
22:02:07 arvind -> Here is a list of questions I brainstormed for people wanting to create a new EdTechTalk show. Now, I don't think this should necessarily be a page listed on the site like "sign up for a show." I think these question would likely scare people away. Instead, once we have people who are interested, maybe talk to them, and ask them to write these up after we think they might fit. It will give them direction and us a better understanding of what they could bring to the table. Not an exhaustive list by any means and in no particular order... - What is your show concept? - Who would be on the show? Tell us about each host - How often do you plan to broadcast? - Why do you want to be on EdTechTalk vs. any other place/hosting it yourself? - How does your show fit into the EdTechTalk and Worldbridges community? What will it contribute? What do you hope to gain from being a part of this community? - Do you have a webcast/podcast now? Where? - What kind of help would you need to get started?
22:03:07 Durff -> fine - what about maintenance?
22:03:39 mizmercer -> NO! It doesn't
22:04:00 Durff -> morning
22:04:00 mizmercer -> Selling crud is NOT edtechtalkiness
22:04:24 mizmercer -> Oh IT"S OKAY IF IT"S A CADDILAC!
22:04:26 mizmercer -> I think NOT
22:05:23 arvind -> Dell anyone?
22:05:40 mizmercer -> I-Phones?
22:05:41 Durff -> buying me one?
22:05:43 dave -> :D
22:05:49 DS-GoSens -> heard they're gonna start selling at WalMart
22:05:54 DS-GoSens -> Dell, that is
22:05:55 mizmercer -> Oh man!
22:05:56 arvind -> iPhones all around! Thanks for our new show, Appletastic!
22:05:56 JoseR -> How about the london bridge
22:06:15 Durff -> \I already ordered a dell
22:06:17 mizmercer -> Yeah, we've gotten that digressive. Poor Jeff from Ann
22:06:43 mizmercer -> He comes with a simple question, and now we're yelling about selling crud on ETT
22:07:15 arvind -> offtopic: Don Cherry on NBC hockey coverage!
22:07:16 JoseR -> that's the community voices dissent
22:07:31 DS-GoSens -> they're simulcasting on CBC Arvind
22:07:35 DS-GoSens -> too funny
22:08:05 arvind -> I only see peacocks. I can't believe he still wears those insane clothes
22:08:06 mizmercer -> Oh man are there no limits to the off-topicness here?
22:08:09 Durff -> i tried that ... you all ignored me
22:08:12 arvind -> I miss CBC when I was in Michigan
22:08:22 mizmercer -> Off-topic is very EdTechTalkiness
22:08:27 arvind -> indeed
22:08:32 arvind -> backchannel has value
22:08:39 JoseR -> It's back channel at it's finest
22:08:56 mizmercer -> Birdwalking as an intellectual exercise...
22:10:27 Lee -> Finally!
22:10:35 Lee -> True True
22:10:37 arvind -> there we go
22:10:53 Lee -> I am interested in doing something for TTT in that regard.
22:10:58 Durff -> i think you should do it on both EdTech and something else
22:11:02 mizmercer -> Okay, can we do something about the overflow of the chat page into the right sidebar?
22:11:35 Lee -> So .. is the concept to just make that connection VERY CLEAR?
22:11:46 Lee -> between ett and ttt for example
22:11:59 mizmercer -> I'm watching on my laptop?
22:12:16 arvind -> Alice, welcome to the EdTechTalk webmaster needs
22:12:16 Lee -> being sure everything is posted on ett from ttt is one way to ensure that connection
22:12:32 mizmercer -> Yeah, I'm a PITA that way!
22:12:39 mizmercer -> Sorry.
22:12:55 mizmercer -> I complain, but I'm willing to work?
22:12:56 Durff -> he so over the edge
22:13:03 Lee -> well.. if i am not doing the posting on ttt but take charge of putting iton ett then it is not double in one sense.. at least on the workload side
22:13:26 Lee -> But should we go back to having that block we talked about that is our logo?
22:14:06 Lee -> put it everywhere and on the external sites... for linking back to worldbridges
22:14:19 Durff -> boo
22:14:31 arvind -> let's hire a logo designer online - i liked Jeff's idea of a contest
22:14:37 mizmercer -> so when is the first show?
22:14:41 Lee -> a contest is fine
22:14:48 arvind -> Thursday...not sure when
22:14:48 Durff -> i like that arvind
22:14:49 mizmercer -> I missed that
22:14:57 arvind -> that was from an earlier discussion
22:15:01 mizmercer -> yep
22:15:03 Lee -> P-l-a-n-n-i-n-g
22:15:04 JL -> http://worldbridging.net/logos 
22:15:28 Lee -> No I am unable to talk but can chat in a lively manner
22:15:51 mizmercer -> Okay, I could play with Adobe Illustrator, my dh got, but I'm not a professional.
22:16:07 mizmercer -> And I need another week and half until I'm done working
22:16:13 Durff -> a "clever" logo?
22:16:14 arvind -> go Alice!
22:16:25 mizmercer -> Well, i can at least do that.
22:16:37 Durff -> ah! the artist alice!
22:16:43 mizmercer -> I don't know about that!
22:16:50 dave -> http://www.h-master.net/web2.0/image/(reflect)edtechtalkBETA.png
22:16:58 JoseR -> cool alice
22:16:59 arvind -> offtopic: the governator is at te hockey game with Don Cherry!
22:17:05 arvind -> getting crazy in Canada
22:17:15 mizmercer -> I say take off the beta and that one is good to go!
22:17:25 Lee -> Say would someone... please bring up that folks from edtechtalk shows need to get their proposals in this week ifpossible?
22:17:54 Lee -> for the educationbridges grant ...
22:18:10 Lee -> hee hee
22:18:45 Durff -> nite
22:18:55 dave -> http://web2.0stylr.com/userimages/slxt1w45c2r12gnv45qxzpfw6-4-2007-9-17-... 
22:19:08 arvind -> Lee, from Dave's e-mail to this? http://educationbridges.org/node/73 
22:19:09 Lee -> i could spend some time next week on it if they are in.. i would be happy to do some gathering of info for us to polish off at least the first step :)
22:19:52 Lee -> I just see some free time coming up .. might as well try to be useful
22:20:26 DS-GoSens -> have to run gang
22:20:34 arvind -> good luck DS
22:20:40 Lee -> bye doug
22:21:03 arvind -> I have a Skype call to make to my brother, am going to run too
22:21:09 arvind -> have a good night all
22:21:16 CathyE -> night all
22:21:18 DS-GoSens -> thanks all
22:21:21 dave -> 'night all
22:21:21 DS-GoSens -> bye for now
22:22:01 arvind -> bye
22:22:08 JoseR -> got to run ESL class is waiting for me to get off computere
22:22:09 Lee -> Thanks to Jen.. she was a wonderful support for my presentation today..
22:22:36 Durff -> tired...must sleep....are we going in world for that?
22:24:14 Durff -> nite
22:29:57 JoseR -> good night
22:34:17 JoseR -> cathy I got your email see you at making connections tomorrow