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June 22, 2008
18:47:40 JohnS -> Hey, all. We'll be streaming in a couple minutes.
18:50:00 JenM -> doah!
18:56:11 alicemercer -> Hello all
18:56:29 JenM -> hi, alice!
18:56:32 alicemercer -> I'm listening!
18:56:51 alicemercer -> So go ahead dave, do something embarrassing
18:57:02 alicemercer -> No echo from me
18:57:05 alicemercer -> for me
18:57:14 alicemercer -> a POS?
18:57:41 alicemercer -> I've looked at it. It's not that easy to work for kids
18:57:46 alicemercer -> I've used it with my son
18:58:03 alicemercer -> JS: that's WRONG!
18:58:20 alicemercer -> Cause the kid is designing it from scratch
18:58:28 alicemercer -> With teh designer
18:58:36 alicemercer -> Then they order the parts, BUT Jenn
18:58:42 alicemercer -> it does nto work well
18:59:07 alicemercer -> Hey, can we ship it to me at NECC? then we could wear them there?
18:59:11 alicemercer -> $15
19:00:11 alicemercer -> Also, my son gets kits of LEGO (bioncle), he and his cousins usually recombine parts from kits to make their own creations, and tehre is a whole section of LEGO.com where kids share what they come up with that is UNIQUE
19:00:17 alicemercer -> not just he kit ones
19:00:23 alicemercer -> AVOIDING ME JOHN!
19:00:43 alicemercer -> I can ask Leroy to talk about Legos if you want?
19:00:55 alicemercer -> Any twitter links?
19:01:15 alicemercer -> lots of hashtags action on NECC
19:01:38 JenniferW -> JenW in the building!!!
19:01:43 mrsdurff -> audio good
19:01:45 alicemercer -> I was going to suggest group tweet
19:01:45 loonyhiker -> audio sounds good to me
19:01:46 JenM -> hey ... ETTers!
19:01:47 alicemercer -> Good audio
19:01:49 Alvin Trusty -> everything sounds good
19:01:49 JenniferW -> are we talking NEXT Sunday from NECC
19:01:52 alicemercer -> Can't see hairdo
19:02:02 alicemercer -> mohawk?
19:02:03 loonyhiker -> no hairdo :(
19:02:21 alicemercer -> GAG ME!
19:02:30 JenniferW -> I mean -- are you guys going to have a show next week FROM NECC??
19:02:31 loonyhiker -> i see someones desktop
19:02:49 mrsdurff -> is there audio/video with dimdim?
19:02:49 JenniferW -> <----does not watch the VIDEO even during the show :)
19:02:59 alicemercer -> Who having a show?
19:03:16 JenniferW -> just wondering where to be next Sunday -- will there be a ETT??
19:03:18 loonyhiker -> i'd like to see how dimdim works
19:03:24 mrsdurff -> sounds like alice
19:03:29 alicemercer -> It's JL anniversary and he will be gone
19:03:43 JenniferW -> so LIisa -- did you bring your pageflakes back??
19:03:44 alicemercer -> ETT is during the Keynote at NECC...
19:03:45 mrsdurff -> hi lorna
19:03:51 mrsdurff -> no jen
19:04:01 alicemercer -> I'm seeing the chat screen on Ustream box?
19:04:02 JenniferW -> next week is Lebow's anniversary??
19:04:03 mrsdurff -> but see alice's netvibes
19:04:03 Lorna -> Hello everyone
19:04:10 alicemercer -> Oh, you saw that?
19:04:15 alicemercer -> Thanks Lisa!
19:04:21 dave -> http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h9kqGvkVPSvo-KNWFDWAg-mVfleg 
19:04:31 mrsdurff -> yes and i put the link in my blog post
19:04:40 alicemercer -> Well, she CAN"T in USA
19:04:43 alicemercer -> under 14
19:04:47 JenniferW -> NOWAY
19:04:53 JenniferW -> NO WAY
19:05:07 mrsdurff -> ooo - bad girl
19:05:14 alicemercer -> TOS says you have to be 14 in US
19:05:14 mrsdurff -> smart girl
19:05:16 JenniferW -> a parent was overruled by the courts??? that makes me sad in SOOOO many ways
19:05:30 alicemercer -> ONLY in Canada
19:05:46 mrsdurff -> hi jason
19:05:48 JohnS -> probably not, alice.
19:05:52 JasonR -> Hello
19:05:56 JenniferW -> THAT is what makes me sad --- that it went to COURT
19:06:11 JenniferW -> think of what kind of person that GIRL might just become due to this
19:06:14 JenM -> Firefox: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7462900.stm 
19:06:18 mrsdurff -> it worked dave
19:06:30 loonyhiker -> parents can't be totally blamed then for not disciplining their children if the courts tell them they can't
19:06:32 alicemercer -> Well, I mean LEGALLY, couldn't fly here, violates COOPPA
19:06:35 JenniferW -> literally -- I am stunned - very very stunned
19:07:06 mrsdurff -> it is a news story jen
19:07:10 JenniferW -> can we go back to 1976 and I can take my parents to court?? Grins, I might have turned out very different
19:07:13 JenniferW -> 'differently
19:07:22 mrsdurff -> sensationised
19:07:25 JenniferW -> <-------I did drink the FF 3.0 koolaid
19:07:30 JenniferW -> admit it -- I did
19:07:31 alicemercer -> Hey, bad week for Canada in the news. School sent a child protection report about a parent becuase school aide went to a psychic who said a student was being molested
19:07:32 Scott Shelhart -> Super fast and no crashes for me. I LOVE it.
19:07:38 Lorna -> IS the stream on?
19:07:45 alicemercer -> I used to think they were progressive...not pathetic
19:07:51 Lorna -> I keep dropping ustream
19:07:54 JenniferW -> but not until Friday
19:08:05 JenniferW -> but my computer keeps freezing
19:08:12 alicemercer -> I'm doing live blogging with cover it live, and that only works in FF 2.0, so I'm waiting till after NECC
19:08:18 JL -> http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/06/18/vulnerability-in-mozilla-... 
19:08:27 JenniferW -> AND -- my ADDRESS bar is not updating to all the right addresses -- it gets stuck on ONE url address on all tabs
19:08:34 JenniferW -> but delicious is working
19:08:35 mrsdurff -> FF2 crashed 2x's today on me
19:08:38 dave -> http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/06/18/vulnerability-in-mozilla-... 
19:08:47 JenniferW -> I crashed today -- didn't attirbute it to FF3 -- maybe I should
19:08:55 JenniferW -> I just thought the WIKI was acting up
19:09:18 JL -> http://blog.screencast.com/2008/06/the-new-screencastcom.html 
19:09:19 alicemercer -> Here is the psychic molestation link: http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/canadian-psychic-accuses-... 
19:09:24 JenniferW -> If I freeze during this time -- should I attribute it to FF3??
19:09:43 mrsdurff -> hi debbie
19:09:47 JenniferW -> Hey Guest 276!!!! is in the building
19:09:53 Debbie -> Hi there! *grin*
19:09:54 alicemercer -> Hi debbie
19:10:11 mrsdurff -> welcome to the chaos
19:10:13 alicemercer -> Your dh is saying ridiculous stuff about LEGOs
19:10:14 JenniferW -> ar you on SKYPE, Deb. I have something to show you!!!
19:10:39 JohnS -> Free presentation resources for students & teachers!: http://etc.usf.edu/presentations/index.html 
19:10:43 Debbie -> @JenW I'm not on my own computer, I'm on laptop #3 or #4 that JohnS brought home...
19:10:51 JenniferW -> LOL
19:10:54 JasonR -> Hi
19:10:55 JenniferW -> well....I will show you later
19:11:02 Debbie -> Legos? Don't get him started on Legos...
19:11:13 JenniferW -> Nice plug on my blog BTW, Guest 276
19:11:15 alicemercer -> Deb, do your kids do LEGOs?
19:11:30 JenniferW -> I want a small commission please :)
19:11:44 Debbie -> @alicemercer Of course! He had them playing Legos when they were 1 - just really really BIG ones.
19:11:54 JenniferW -> has TOS ever stopped us???
19:12:01 dave -> http://www.diigo.com/annotated/522d8a4b8a99975c2c3ed06f925eb6c9 
19:12:09 JenniferW -> I mean -- look at Google Docs TOS and no one acknowledges it
19:12:12 alicemercer -> Well, he seems to have really fixed ideas on what constitutes a worthwhile LEGO project
19:12:46 JenniferW -> NO -- really????
19:12:47 Debbie -> @alice Yes, and when the "projects" are complete, I'm not allowed to destruct them for weeks.
19:12:56 mrsdurff -> hi sharon
19:13:03 sharonp -> HI all
19:13:06 JohnS -> @Jdub we do try to at least abide by use restrictions.
19:13:24 JenniferW -> @JohnS --- truly??? with google docs TOS??
19:13:24 sharonp -> Wow, my last ETT weekly for a while
19:13:38 alicemercer -> He doesn't like "sets" that are objects because they stymie creativity, which is NOT my experience with son.
19:13:47 sharonp -> was there a link for what Dave is talking about??
19:13:49 JasonR -> http://penny-arcade.com/2008/6/18/#news_22519  LEGO and Kellogg's team up to teach kids how to choke.
19:13:50 mrsdurff -> how long will you be gone Sharon?
19:14:01 JenniferW -> Sharon -- are you going somewhere???
19:14:04 JenniferW -> :)
19:14:13 alicemercer -> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080620133907.htm 
19:14:21 Debbie -> @alice We have only loose legos, no set. But then again, we have girls who are not as interested in creating specific items as some boys might be.
19:14:31 sharonp -> so funny, Jen!
19:14:37 Debbie -> @SharonP WHen do you leave for Africa?
19:14:46 sharonp -> I leave for Africa on Thursday
19:14:50 sharonp -> EEK!!
19:14:52 JohnS -> SEE?! She agrees with me (for once) :-)
19:14:54 dave -> wow... nice plug of your research jen!
19:15:03 alicemercer -> If he had a boy, or a lego nut in the family he'd understand IT JUST DOESN'T matter
19:15:07 sharonp -> Jen is writing on backchanneling - feel scooped!
19:15:10 JenniferW -> how much STUDY do you need to have to prove the validity of something???
19:15:18 mrsdurff -> and sharon how long will you be there?
19:15:25 sharonp -> almost 7 weeks
19:15:26 JenniferW -> I mean -- how long would you have to study to prove a trend??
19:15:38 dave -> @jenniferW it depends on who you are trying to prove it to
19:15:40 sharonp -> how long or how many?
19:15:41 mrsdurff -> wow!
19:15:43 alicemercer -> I use diigo
19:15:48 alicemercer -> ACK!
19:15:49 JenniferW -> smiles -- just wondering............ :)
19:16:11 mrsdurff -> that's is a lot of packing
19:16:16 JasonR -> I can import them into a program called Scrivener and highlight/annotate from there. Mac only.
19:16:16 JenniferW -> I am just wondering
19:16:17 sharonp -> am alsomt panicking about what needs to get done between now and Thsuday
19:16:19 mrsdurff -> hi jeff mason
19:16:28 JenniferW -> no picking a fight -- just wondering what constitutes a TRUE study??
19:16:37 JenniferW -> what do you think they would want???
19:16:38 sharonp -> I agree with DAve
19:16:48 alicemercer -> Well, don't show them that court case from Canada, lol!
19:16:53 sharonp -> have to show several studies from reputable peeps
19:16:57 Debbie -> @alice I can see both sides. Sets would be useful for creating something specific which would be played with creatively. But sets aren't creative building, really.
19:17:05 mrsdurff -> a study that is repeatable jen
19:17:14 sharonp -> which is why it is so impt to document our successes (and failures)
19:17:16 JenniferW -> Like the study Jen is talking about -- I wonder how much they studied to prove this
19:17:21 JenniferW -> just truly wondering............
19:17:23 alicemercer -> Debbie, my experience, they build it once, then they recombo and make their own.
19:17:28 Debbie -> @sharonP It will all get done. No worries!
19:17:29 JenniferW -> not being argumentative -- just truly wondering
19:17:45 loonyhiker -> JW: I thought it was a good question
19:17:46 sharonp -> Jen, have more on laptop studies if you are intersted - some new stuff from QC
19:17:56 mrsdurff -> then it is not research based
19:17:59 JasonR -> Even with brain scans?
19:18:02 JenniferW -> Loonyhiker -- actually I was asking JENM --- :) for her study
19:18:05 Debbie -> @alice Ah...the friends I know who have boys build the item and leave it built, some even glue it. SO it's a different experience.
19:18:12 JasonR -> Ah, I see what Dave is saying
19:18:21 sharonp -> always agreeing with Dave
19:18:22 JenniferW -> I wasn't being argumentative
19:18:24 alicemercer -> My guys, recombo, whole section of LEGO site where they post
19:18:24 mrsdurff -> you wouldn't - yet
19:18:27 JL -> http://www.thejournal.com/articles/22786 
19:18:28 JasonR -> You can't unlearn how to ride a bike
19:18:37 loonyhiker -> @JW but I like to see other ppl ask questions that are wandering around my own mind :)
19:18:41 mrsdurff -> i could jason
19:18:42 sharonp -> very difficult to measure this stuff
19:18:52 JenniferW -> Thank you Loony -- I like reading other people's minds :)
19:18:53 alicemercer -> "Back in the day..."
19:18:56 dave -> @jenniferW i thought it was a great question
19:18:56 JenM -> Flickr founders depart Yahoo: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/flickr-co-founders-join-mass-exodus... 
19:19:03 Debbie -> Hi Alvin. (-:
19:19:08 dave -> i should have explained myself better
19:19:12 JenniferW -> @dave -- thanks. I kinda thought you thought I was picking a fight
19:19:14 sharonp -> you know, it sometimes comes down to the teachers' perception s of whetehr learning is happening
19:19:17 Alvin Trusty -> hi Debbie
19:19:20 JasonR -> Founder of del.icio.us too has left
19:19:34 JenniferW -> has left what??
19:19:35 JenniferW -> :)
19:19:39 loonyhiker -> where r all these ppl going tho?
19:19:41 mrsdurff -> left flickr
19:19:42 JasonR -> has left Yahoo
19:19:51 Debbie -> @Alvin I discovered another new Ohio Historical Marker nearby today. Have to go on a photo capture mission soon!
19:20:06 mrsdurff -> picasa
19:20:08 JenniferW -> hmmmmmm John Pederson linked to a short video by some guy that left Yahoo
19:20:09 Alvin Trusty -> more than 100 Yahoo execs have left in the last year
19:20:11 JasonR -> @loonyhiker good question. Maybe they will make Web 3.0
19:20:11 JenniferW -> same person???
19:20:28 JenniferW -> Ahhh Loony ---- LOL, you didn't give me time to ask that :) :)
19:20:32 alicemercer -> Lots of takeover stuff at Yahoo, (Ichan, or Kerkorian is trying to kick out Jerry Yang).
19:20:40 JL -> http://screennation.afi.com/ 
19:20:44 alicemercer -> Can't remember which VC guy
19:20:45 JasonR -> There's an inbox?
19:20:53 JenniferW -> I think FF is crashing
19:20:55 alicemercer -> Screenation is great, but NO UNDER 14
19:21:02 JL -> http://edubloggerdir.blogspot.com/2008/01/events-calendar.html 
19:21:16 JenniferW -> ett has an email address???
19:21:39 mrsdurff -> yup
19:21:47 JenniferW -> and how do we get links to you??? :)
19:21:53 JohnS -> The Associated Press to Set Guidelines for Using Its Articles in Blogs : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/business/media/16ap.html?_r=3&oref=slo... 
19:22:09 JenniferW -> If I quote JS -- do I have to pay $7.50 for 24 words
19:22:14 Debbie -> To get them links: for:edtechtalk in delicious
19:22:25 JenniferW -> of course -- the educational cost
19:22:26 mrsdurff -> he may charge you more jen
19:22:42 JenniferW -> twitter will change a lot when people start charging --
19:22:42 JasonR -> Anyone stopped bloggin AP articles?
19:22:53 JenniferW -> @JasonR -- never did in the first place :)
19:22:56 Debbie -> @JenW Cost could be offset for entertaining the wife most nights, so it'll be even. (-:
19:23:06 alicemercer -> Drudge, hmm he usually adds something (not always savory) to the news.
19:23:07 JasonR -> I had an opportunity to this week and decided not to.
19:23:08 mrsdurff -> don't want to do that anyway jason
19:23:12 loonyhiker -> @jasonr i never did it either
19:23:22 JenniferW -> Twitter will change a lot when people have to put in the CC info first before typing
19:23:30 dave -> http://www.watchknow.org/#3.%20Participation 
19:23:43 JenniferW -> OH, I got this email today too
19:23:43 JasonR -> Anyone look at the byline when blogging a news item to see its origin?
19:23:55 JenniferW -> @JasonR --- I always do
19:24:00 JenniferW -> but I used to be a journalist
19:24:05 JenniferW -> so I like to write the author too
19:24:13 JenniferW -> bylines are important to me
19:24:16 sharonp -> yes, got same email too
19:24:17 Debbie -> @JasonR I certainly do! There's too much bogus out there not to check sources...
19:24:28 mrsdurff -> hi josteen
19:24:35 JohnS -> @Jdub my stuff is cc
19:24:36 loonyhiker -> i like to say who the author is too
19:24:40 josteen -> hi all
19:24:55 JenniferW -> @JohnS -- LOL, ahhhh I was going to put a check in the mail to you tomorrow -- guess I can tear it up
19:24:57 mrsdurff -> jen i'll charge
19:25:00 sharonp -> I would be interested, not so much thinking my new school would be interesteted
19:25:11 sharonp -> oh, US only
19:25:14 sharonp -> how exclusive
19:25:17 mrsdurff -> it will cost decaf colombian + dark chocolate
19:25:25 JenniferW -> @sharonp -- you are finally getting it -- EVERYTHING is US
19:25:37 JenniferW -> is there anyplace outside of US?? :)
19:25:42 sharonp -> it is so all bout YOU
19:25:54 Debbie -> US = us = everyone
19:25:56 JenniferW -> it is about US :)
19:26:00 alicemercer -> Hmm, SEVA is the biggie, is this one more CC oriented?
19:26:00 JenniferW -> Debbie got it ---
19:26:03 JenniferW -> YEAH DEBBIE
19:26:08 JasonR -> Our local education channel runs a series called High School Idol. Broadcast the kids signing on cable access. Neat enough.
19:26:09 JenniferW -> it is about US
19:26:17 JenniferW -> didn't say USA -- I said US
19:26:27 sharonp -> LOL
19:26:33 JenniferW -> she got it
19:26:35 JenniferW -> pshew
19:26:39 JenM -> How Stephen does "it" - OLDaily, that is ... (WARNING IT auto-STARTS): http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/06/oldaily-production.html 
19:26:39 alicemercer -> Jason: is that SEVA (cause cable in classroom folks I think do that)
19:26:49 JasonR -> http://www.theedchannel.net/idol/index.cfm 
19:26:52 JenniferW -> Stephen is on the way to SPAIN
19:26:52 mrsdurff -> why not just convert the video?
19:26:55 JenniferW -> OL Daily
19:26:57 Debbie -> @JenW SHould I be worried that I can read your mind?
19:27:09 JenniferW -> @Debbie -- ahhhh sometimes I should be worried
19:27:42 JL -> http://www.quikmaps.com/ 
19:27:50 JenniferW -> send a POPUP to DS
19:27:52 sharonp -> Stephen is the human web
19:28:08 JL -> http://www.feedbooks.com/news 
19:28:09 JenniferW -> I think Stephen was a bit hurt that only 3 people sent in applications
19:28:20 sharonp -> youch
19:28:25 alicemercer -> Part of me says why?
19:28:29 JenniferW -> anyone else read between the lines on his blog??
19:28:44 Debbie -> Oh yeah...RSS to PDF...more paper.
19:29:00 JohnS -> Making Popcorn With a Cell Phone Only Happens in the Movies: http://www.cardosystems.com/pop/
19:29:18 Debbie -> Yeah...glurge on ETT..sheesh.
19:29:32 JasonR -> HOAX!
19:29:42 mrsdurff -> no popcorn?
19:29:48 mrsdurff -> i like popcorn
19:29:52 alicemercer -> Well, debbie you experience this all the time I'm sure, lol
19:29:58 JenniferW -> POPCORN with cell phone DID NOT WORK
19:30:04 JenniferW -> at least at my work
19:30:04 JohnS -> ASUS EeePC pilot project update: http://tannervision.blogspot.com/2008/05/asus-eeepc-pilot-project-update... 
19:30:09 JenniferW -> which was QUITE SAD
19:30:32 dave -> http://port25.technet.com/videos/downloads/wmpfirefoxplugin.exe 
19:30:37 dave -> firefox plugin
19:30:39 Debbie -> At our house, it's refered to as the "baby computer"
19:30:55 JasonR -> DO the kids need to do video? Does it do that?
19:30:56 alicemercer -> Yeah, cause buy three cell phones is cheaper than getting one microwave JW
19:31:26 JenniferW -> LOL
19:31:34 dave -> http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism 
19:32:00 JenniferW -> 650 people
19:32:02 JenniferW -> enrolled
19:32:11 Debbie -> Holy cow!
19:32:12 JenniferW -> I dropped -- don't like BIG classes :)
19:32:27 sharonp -> Dibs on being George's class pet!
19:32:39 Debbie -> Chat will be hard to follow!!
19:32:53 sharonp -> How intimate can this course be??
19:32:54 JenniferW -> they aren't going to deal with it
19:32:59 JasonR -> How do churches deal with it?
19:33:01 JenniferW -> they will have to split it up
19:33:03 alicemercer -> Scary. Dont' like that much in RL, why do it online?
19:33:05 JenniferW -> smaller groups
19:33:07 mrsdurff -> poor them
19:33:26 JenniferW -> I didn't think it was ever going to be live -- I thought it was going to be a wiki
19:33:31 JenniferW -> You can distribute in Elluminate
19:33:32 mrsdurff -> well you will dave
19:33:37 sharonp -> Lots of work for them to figger this out
19:33:44 JenniferW -> Alec Courous can share his skype account :)
19:33:54 sharonp -> will be as exciting as Psych 101
19:33:55 alicemercer -> Poof!
19:33:57 loonyhiker -> kaboom
19:34:18 mrsdurff -> let's find out what noise it makes when it explodes
19:34:25 sharonp -> It's all my fault - I told too many people
19:34:30 alicemercer -> Maybe you could pop corn with it?
19:34:39 mrsdurff -> hey popcorn
19:34:43 loonyhiker -> lol
19:34:49 mrsdurff -> s'mores
19:34:56 JenM -> Feed Reader Extravaganza: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/the-new-rss-feed-reader-wars/ 
19:35:00 JenniferW -> Do you think they really did not anticipate that AMOUNT of response
19:35:25 mrsdurff -> they did the advertising
19:35:32 dave -> @jenniferW i don't think anyone has ever seen that kind of traffic
19:35:50 Debbie -> Sounds like Feedly.
19:35:55 JenniferW -> I had 1,000 teachers sign up for the O.R.E.O. project --
19:36:07 JenniferW -> but we didn't ever meet in ONE place
19:36:13 alicemercer -> You can share on Google Reader contacts
19:36:15 loonyhiker -> @JW did they think you were giving out cookies and milk :)
19:36:16 JenniferW -> would NEVER do that
19:36:17 Debbie -> But I ended up with LOTS of feeds to read, and it got overwhelming this week, so I uninstalled it.
19:36:18 mrsdurff -> you're famous jen
19:36:32 JenniferW -> Smiles -- if they gave cookies -- they would have had 2,000
19:36:52 mrsdurff -> cookies? i want cookies
19:37:02 JenniferW -> tossing cookies to MrsDurff :)
19:37:06 mrsdurff -> ty
19:37:07 Debbie -> D'Arcy's using Feedly, too, & tweets about it. That's where I got the idea. Might be something different, though.
19:37:34 alicemercer -> says readburner is a social networking/feed site
19:37:42 Debbie -> @JenW Don't toss your cookies, please!
19:37:54 mrsdurff -> now i need coffee to go with those cookies
19:38:03 JenniferW -> LOL -- Thank Goodness Deb -- I wondered if anyone had a sense of humor today
19:38:17 JL -> http://waxy.org/2008/06/code_rush/ 
19:39:01 JohnS -> SpaceTime TV: http://www.spacetime.us/tv/ 
19:39:04 JasonR -> It is always a trip to go to the Archive.org and watch 10-year old episodes of the Computer Chronicles
19:39:07 JL -> http://johnlocker.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 
19:39:18 Debbie -> @dave Second link you just talked about didn't drop.
19:39:27 Debbie -> Never mind. (-:
19:39:34 JL -> http://www.kaltura.com/ 
19:39:56 dave -> http://edtechpost.wikispaces.com/PLE+Diagrams 
19:40:02 JasonR -> http://www.archive.org/details/computerchronicles 
19:40:55 dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/5tein/2271568921/ 
19:41:38 JenM -> OER Extravaganza from Stephen: http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=45032 
19:42:45 JL -> http://vuzit.com/ 
19:42:59 JL -> http://scrnshots.com/ 
19:43:04 sharonp -> there is so much out there!! I just can't keep up !
19:43:15 JenniferW -> thank goodness this is all Delicioused
19:43:18 JL -> http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/red-paperclip-g.html 
19:43:33 JenniferW -> yes???
19:43:37 JenniferW -> did he lose the house??
19:43:39 JenniferW -> NO WAY
19:43:54 JenniferW -> now that is funny
19:43:59 JohnS -> Instruction and practice for math facts: http://www.kidsnumbers.com/ and Interactive Flash Games for practicing multiplication:: http://www.multiplication.com/interactive_games.htm and Tutpup : http://tutpup.com/ 
19:44:10 JenniferW -> is that really true -- about the paperclip??
19:45:11 mrsdurff -> it wasa fun
19:45:15 JenniferW -> I think he should take the paperclip
19:45:20 JenniferW -> and start again
19:45:33 JenM -> MOODLE hosted site: http://ninehub.com/ 
19:45:52 JenniferW -> ahhhh -- we have someone who wrote a book about Moodle on WOW2 this week. It is a Cheryl hosting week
19:46:02 JenM -> http://ldd.lego.com/ 
19:46:38 JenniferW -> Yes, you had TONS of pieces to build -- now you have ONLY the pieces you need
19:46:42 JenniferW -> and I still can't build it
19:46:52 loonyhiker -> gee someone is showing their age... that is what i had many years ago :)
19:46:55 JasonR -> They make both kinds of kits
19:47:14 JenniferW -> it's like car parts -- I always end up with leftovers
19:47:23 alicemercer -> Here is the creation gallery: http://bionicle.lego.com/en-us/Gallery/default.aspx 
19:47:38 JenniferW -> love it -- virtual legos can be enjoyed by all
19:47:46 JenniferW -> hmmm I owe JS $5.50 now to quote that
19:47:50 JasonR -> They make LEGO-shaped fruit snack now too (see above)
19:47:51 loonyhiker -> i built my own inventions that did whatever i wanted it to do at the time
19:47:54 alicemercer -> Also, the digital designer was not easy for my son to use
19:48:09 alicemercer -> And he is a champion builder, and okay on computers.
19:48:10 JenM -> http://omeka.org/ 
19:48:16 JenniferW -> I always built Walls too -- think it says a lot about personalities
19:48:24 JasonR -> @alicemercer how old
19:48:50 alicemercer -> If JOHN will look at the creation gallery, he'll see some of the remixing kids have done http://bionicle.lego.com/en-us/Gallery/default.aspx 
19:48:53 JenM -> http://www.audiria.com/index.php 
19:49:05 alicemercer -> 9.5 years old
19:49:19 [Action] JasonR -> working on a video podcast about it, so welcome the feedback
19:49:20 alicemercer -> It's a whole sub-genre of lego
19:49:26 JenniferW -> Okay -- that paperclip guy has been traveling doing speaking engagements -- so he has $$ and should go back to ONE PAPERCLIP -- in my humble opinion :)
19:49:37 JenniferW -> sorry -- got stuck on that article
19:49:38 JL -> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2431/125/ 
19:49:44 JenniferW -> SHARON -- this is a CANADA thing
19:49:51 JenniferW -> eh????
19:50:05 JenniferW -> so -- we in the USA -- can't participate -- how sad is that
19:50:07 JasonR -> You can move to the US
19:50:08 JL -> http://gizmodo.com/5017980/windows-xp-on-a-dell-means-50-downgrade-surch... 
19:50:33 JenniferW -> Yes, Dell is going to still offer XP -- hmmmm really???
19:50:34 JasonR -> Less is more
19:50:39 JenniferW -> is that on the website???
19:50:48 alicemercer -> $30, it's worth it
19:50:56 JenniferW -> we just ordered a laptop -- no problem no downgrade cost
19:51:07 JL -> http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/creative-commons-salon-2/ 
19:51:20 JenniferW -> what is a SALON??
19:51:24 JenniferW -> ahhhhhhh gotcha
19:51:32 JenniferW -> are you really going to have a POST SHOW???
19:51:35 loonyhiker -> knock on wood but i must be the only person in the world that doesn't have any problems w/ vista
19:51:39 JasonR -> It's like a saloon but with fancier drinks
19:51:48 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492 
19:51:54 alicemercer -> woohoo
19:51:56 JenniferW -> LOL -- I thought it was a hair cut place that didn't charge
19:52:03 JenniferW -> who is invited to this CONVERSATION??
19:52:03 alicemercer -> 5 p.m. SL time
19:52:07 JenniferW -> all of us???
19:52:08 JasonR -> Creative Commons haricuts
19:52:10 Debbie -> @alice Those are neat creations, but is there anything not a humanoid monster or a vehicle?
19:52:11 JenniferW -> yep
19:52:11 alicemercer -> HEY YEAH!
19:52:20 JenniferW -> NECC --- anything next week??
19:52:22 alicemercer -> Debbie, heck no!
19:52:23 JohnS -> http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/19/necc-2008-podcasters-beware-... 
19:52:28 JenniferW -> are any of you GOING to NECC
19:52:28 JohnS -> http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/21/good-news-iste-revises-recor... 
19:52:30 alicemercer -> I didn't
19:52:32 [Action] JasonR -> not going to NECC. Who is?
19:52:34 Debbie -> @alice Mine build more buildings, castles, and rockets. (-:
19:52:36 JenM -> All of our links: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080622 
19:52:37 JenniferW -> they rewrote it
19:52:41 JenniferW -> within 24 hours
19:52:47 Debbie -> @alice and people, of course...
19:52:54 JenniferW -> we kneejerked
19:53:05 alicemercer -> http://www.necc2008.org/forum/topic/show?id=1997968%3ATopic%3A10013 
19:53:19 JenniferW -> Donella?? is that her name -- reposted it
19:53:22 JenniferW -> LOL
19:53:25 JenniferW -> it is the US
19:53:27 alicemercer -> @debbie, sorry, my boys like making creatures
19:53:28 JenniferW -> howling
19:53:34 JasonR -> NECC is international (theoretically)
19:53:37 alicemercer -> Anita did
19:53:39 JenniferW -> YES -- I did
19:53:44 dave -> http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/06/20/iste-changes-this-years-policy-... 
19:53:46 alicemercer -> I looked at it, can I call in please?
19:53:46 josteen -> NECC revised their statement - http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/21/good-news-iste-revises-recor... 
19:53:50 JenniferW -> it has MOSTLY to do with COMMERCIAL USE
19:53:53 Debbie -> @alice Is that link ALL THEIR STUFF??
19:53:57 JenniferW -> I have skype on too
19:54:15 alicemercer -> @deb no
19:54:23 JenniferW -> but do n't want to talk NECC
19:54:26 JenniferW -> already blogged about it
19:54:38 alicemercer -> Can we talk about getting folks to help stream?
19:54:40 Debbie -> @alice Now lincoln logs - they like those better than legos!
19:54:40 JenniferW -> but will talk Twitter if JenM wants to
19:55:05 JenM -> want to talk twitter, JW?
19:55:06 Debbie -> Twitter went NUTS when ISTE announced it.
19:55:07 JenniferW -> go to TweetScan and search NECC -- just to watch the backlash conversation
19:55:34 JenniferW -> it was like a mutiny -- and then a dog with his tail between his legs
19:55:49 JenniferW -> <-----was very kind on her blog -- and also said they would change in 24 hours
19:55:53 alicemercer -> This is a long-going battle for Miguel G.
19:55:54 jeffmason -> bud hunt was a voice of reason
19:56:07 Debbie -> Durff certainly had an opinion. (-:
19:56:13 alicemercer -> He has had a lot of battles with Texas folks
19:56:16 JenniferW -> YEP -- it was not written well and they needed to clarify it
19:56:20 JenniferW -> which they did
19:56:28 JenniferW -> but they should have FORESEEN it as well
19:56:54 JenniferW -> you mean -- be an international conference????
19:57:03 JenniferW -> which isn't just hosted in the USA??
19:57:26 Debbie -> There are people who don't focus 24/7 on ed tech? (-:
19:57:40 sheila -> Any one going to the affiliate meeting at NECC?
19:57:41 JenniferW -> ha -- name 10
19:57:54 JenniferW -> am not going to NECC
19:58:22 JasonR -> How long ago was that when JL did it for the first time?
19:58:24 JenniferW -> we talked about this yesterday with Steve Hargadon -- and he is taking some action
19:58:35 JenniferW -> to make sure that audience knows they are an active audience
19:58:39 JenniferW -> because they walked in the door
19:58:45 alicemercer -> It'll be posted
19:58:53 JasonR -> I remember you being way ahead of everyone else
19:58:59 jeffmason -> which came first, the conference or the product showcase?
19:59:22 JenniferW -> YEAH!!! Yes
19:59:28 alicemercer -> That's the hope.
19:59:28 JenniferW -> WOW2 will be hosted From NECC
19:59:34 JasonR -> Now it seems like everyone with a Nokia is doing it
19:59:35 JL -> http://asianbridges.com/pac2/index.html 
19:59:48 JenniferW -> 2009 DC
19:59:48 sheila -> DC
19:59:54 JenniferW -> post SHOW???
19:59:57 JenniferW -> please please please
19:59:58 alicemercer -> YEP!
19:59:59 mrsdurff -> edtech reunion in dc!
20:00:05 Debbie -> I hope everyone goes in '09 so I can meet y'all F2F!
20:00:08 JasonR -> Thanks everyone. Great show.
20:00:12 JenniferW -> for colon ed tech talk
20:00:14 josteen -> bye
20:00:16 JenniferW -> is that how I type it
20:00:20 JenniferW -> POST SHOW!!!!!!
20:00:27 JenniferW -> love POST SHOW
20:00:32 mrsdurff -> we want to meet the woman who lives with john
20:00:34 JenniferW -> YES!!!!!
20:00:47 JenniferW -> host your own Necc Unplugged ETT
20:00:49 JasonR -> Too late to submit for 2009, yes?
20:00:50 mrsdurff -> gerfuffle?
20:00:54 alicemercer -> I think that might be unplugged
20:00:58 JenniferW -> but Apple might get mad
20:01:07 JenniferW -> can I call too?? can I can I
20:01:08 Debbie -> The idea was that our whole family would go and I'd babysit while he was at NECC, but now I want to attend myself! Anyone want to babysit? (-:
20:01:08 mrsdurff -> so true alice
20:01:13 JenniferW -> who do I call??????
20:01:20 JenniferW -> Debbie -- we are putting to gether FAMILY events
20:01:25 JenniferW -> and perhaps child care
20:01:38 mrsdurff -> call john jen
20:01:40 JenniferW -> Necc has a KEYNOTE??
20:01:43 JL -> jschinker
20:01:43 JenniferW -> call JOHN???
20:02:01 Debbie -> *giggle* Yeah, he can babysit so I can meet you all!
20:02:15 JasonR -> Night.
20:02:18 Debbie -> Wait...his work pays for NECC, so that won't work.
20:02:43 Debbie -> Yeah, because 10,000 people are going to try to be online WHILE at NECC!!
20:02:45 alicemercer -> http://ettatnecc.wikispaces.com/ 
20:03:01 JenWagner -> Debbie -- nah -- maybe 2,500 8,500 don't have a clue
20:03:04 mrsdurff -> i need to practice first - make sure it works with new setup
20:03:16 mrsdurff -> i hear ya alice
20:03:49 dave -> night all...
20:03:50 JenWagner -> at the TechForum -- 250 people there 3 were streaming Sheryl in the keynote
20:03:53 JenWagner -> RIDICULOUS
20:03:57 dave -> gotta go see my couch troll
20:04:04 mrsdurff -> why can't i click on hyperlinks and have them open in new tab anymore - does nothing now
20:04:13 Debbie -> Bye Dave! Tell Bon I said hi. (-:
20:04:21 loonyhiker -> @mrsdurff i have to hold the ctrl key
20:04:27 JenWagner -> @durff -- yep for me too -- FF won't let me
20:04:32 mrsdurff -> i tried that loony
20:04:33 JenWagner -> tried the control key too
20:04:37 JenWagner -> didn't work
20:04:51 mrsdurff -> it used to work
20:05:32 Debbie -> @Durff Hmm...can't try it because I'm on a non FF3 computer.
20:05:35 JenWagner -> I don't get how that will save bandwidth though
20:05:44 mrsdurff -> i'm on the old FF
20:05:47 jeffmason -> If the presenters have to approve streaming, cant't they control the number "officially"
20:06:06 loonyhiker -> havin bad storms here y'all. have a nice nite!
20:06:16 Debbie -> Bye looney!
20:06:30 loonyhiker -> thanks for this great session! bye y'all
20:06:42 mrsdurff -> we all do this every week jen
20:07:18 Debbie -> Being called to serve dessert (ice cream cones) to kids, so I'll catch you all later!
20:07:33 JohnS -> hey -- dessert for 3, please.
20:07:41 mrsdurff -> food?
20:08:01 mrsdurff -> i want some
20:08:12 JohnS -> maybe she'll bring you some, too, Durff
20:08:19 mrsdurff -> okay
20:08:30 mrsdurff -> hi mac
20:10:34 mrsdurff -> i read/review one page and that is it
20:11:07 mrsdurff -> i wait for no one - much too impatient for that
20:11:35 mrsdurff -> we'll be right there john
20:12:10 mrsdurff -> aawww!
20:12:17 JenWagner -> CONGRATULATIONS!!!
20:12:25 JenWagner -> and Dr. Jen -- the check is in the mail
20:12:32 JenWagner -> for your psychiatric help
20:12:52 mrsdurff -> yes Mac is a webcasting star!
20:12:52 JenM -> nite all!
20:13:01 mrsdurff -> nite ye'll
20:13:05 JenM -> Thank you for joining the "fun"!