EdTechWeekly #93

 18:51:14  JohnS ->  Gary: I think I'm using all Gary links tonight.
 18:52:00  JenWagner ->  I hear Mexican music -- is that correct??
 18:52:14  Gary ->  Ok - see what happens when you retire - so much more time to spend  dong things you should not be doing
 18:53:37  JenM ->  hello, all!
 18:53:41  Gary ->  I should not try typing and eating at the same time - spelling gets bad
 18:53:59  JenWagner ->  checking stream again
 18:56:55  JenWagner ->  hmmm now classical music
 18:57:04  JenWagner ->  am I doing something wrong??
 18:57:08  JenWagner ->  but it is pretty
 18:57:09  Gary ->  I am drinking a Keith's Red Ale - not sure if that would be available outside of Canada
 18:57:17  JenWagner ->  ahhhh and now JohnS!!!!!
 18:57:36  JenWagner ->  play it again -- it was pretty!!!
 18:57:55  JenWagner ->  I don't like being 30 seconds behind you
 18:58:33  Gary ->  Thanks - a beer list
 18:58:56  JenWagner ->  what is the link for the ustream please
 18:59:46  JenWagner ->  OH - just BTW -- The Pre-Newsletter Newsletter was very enlightening!!!   :)
 19:00:09  JenM ->  http://edtechtalk.com/live [13]
 19:00:22  PeggyG ->  Glad you liked the pre-newsletter :-)
 19:00:35  JenWagner ->  I did not like chrome
 19:00:48  JenWagner ->  and I am now LIVE -- no 30 sec delay
 19:00:57  PeggyG ->  Can't try Chrome-Mac. :-)
 19:01:04  JenWagner ->  you are going to have to convince me on CHROME.
 19:01:05  Alvin Trusty ->  I just had Chrome crash
 19:01:11  Gary ->  The Pre-Newsletter was also useful becuase we found out how many different email addresses that we had subscribed with
 19:01:19  JenWagner ->  I took FF totally off -- reinstalled and NO CRASHES since
 19:01:36  JenWagner ->  Alvin -- did you get any postcards yet???
 19:01:36  ccapo ->  i wasn't so crazy about chrome either...
 19:01:44  PeggyG ->  @Gary-I discovered a lot of things after browsing around the links. :-)
 19:01:53  JenWagner ->  I think I tried CHROME too early - the first day and ICK didn't get it
 19:01:57  ccapo ->  locked up way too much
 19:02:08  JenWagner ->  LOL, but I used google.com as my browser anyway  -- so I didn't realize it wasn't a browser
 19:02:08  DaveC ->  helo
 19:02:11  DaveC ->  good
 19:02:15  PeggyG ->  Love the pre-show stuff. Sounds good.
 19:02:20  JenWagner ->  I just had to turn up my sound
 19:02:21  Lorna ->  Jeff is just mellow
 19:02:29  JenWagner ->  Jen is louder to me than everyone else
 19:02:30  alexiskrysten ->  You sound fine to me. Have no idea what chrome is
 19:02:32  Alvin Trusty ->  @JW - The teacher is bringing out a few postcards at a time.  Only one from each student.
 19:02:35  Gary ->  Seems fine
 19:02:41  JenWagner ->  Ahhhh
 19:02:48  ccapo ->  love it ... sound great
 19:02:49  JenWagner ->  fine
 19:02:55  CdnMathTeacher ->  Sounds good to me!
 19:02:57  JenWagner ->  fine
 19:03:04  JenWagner ->  who went first??
 19:03:05  PeggyG ->  I think they all sound good :-)
 19:03:11  JenWagner ->  the second one was softer
 19:03:13  DaveC ->  This is DaveC who isn't confused on who he is :-)
 19:03:14  Gary ->  Too late
 19:03:20  PeggyG ->  who's on second ... :-)
 19:03:26  JenM ->  @daveC ... that is good!
 19:03:27  JenWagner ->  I don't know is on third
 19:03:33  JenWagner ->  yes, but it could be my sound
 19:03:39  JenWagner ->  do we have a new baby???
 19:03:51  James Sigler ->  well done
 19:04:10  JenWagner ->  how much longer
 19:04:15  James Sigler ->  Are you adjusting audio levels?
 19:04:36  JenWagner ->  so she is just 2 days past the due date???
 19:04:38  DaveC ->  Could be crickets...
 19:04:51  James Sigler ->  Chrrp chrrp
 19:04:53  CdnMathTeacher ->  What? It's fall and a young teacher's thoughts turn to love??
 19:04:56  JenWagner ->  ahhh I misunderstood
 19:05:21  JenWagner ->  ready
 19:05:24  James Sigler ->  Sinatra in Wisconsin?
 19:05:39  PeggyG ->  can't hear Sinatra on the stream
 19:05:42  Gary ->  Glad all you windoze people are working the chrome problems out for the rest of us.
 19:06:02  James Sigler ->  The uncrashable Chrome crash?
 19:06:13  JohnS ->  I killed it
 19:06:17  JenWagner ->  The Consortium???
 19:06:20  PeggyG ->  Yes I registered :-)
 19:06:21  Lorna ->  rss feeds rule
 19:06:22  ccapo ->  so did i
 19:06:24  James Sigler ->  Congrats
 19:06:33  JL ->  http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/ [14]
 19:06:38  Gary ->  Am avoiding it - seems dangerous
 19:06:52  PeggyG ->  Connective course is going to be a lot of work--not sure I'll be able to keep up
 19:06:56  JenWagner ->  I dropped out 3 weeks ago
 19:06:58  JenWagner ->  :)
 19:07:14  JenM ->  Connectivism & Connective Knowledge (CCK08): http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/ [14] ... http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism_Outline [15] ... http://ltc.umanitoba.ca:83/moodle/course/view.php?id=20 [16]
 19:07:52  James Sigler ->  Is there such a thing as too big an online conference?
 19:08:14  JL ->  http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html       http://google.com/chrome    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?tag=mncol;txt [17]
 19:08:18  James Sigler ->  Doesn't that make it an online network?
 19:08:19  PeggyG ->  I'm interested in the process too :-)
 19:08:46  JohnS ->  Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome/ [18]
 19:09:03  JenWagner ->  is there a delcious widget??
 19:09:26  JenWagner ->  me too, Jen
 19:09:28  JenM ->  What do you think about setting it up for Java? http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95282&query=ja... [19]
 19:09:46  JL ->  http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?tag=mncol;txt [17]
 19:09:52  James Sigler ->  How many tabs can you open before it crashes?
 19:09:58  DaveC ->  I'm thinking, "What kind of data are they gathering now!?"
 19:09:59  JenM ->  *it being Chrome ...
 19:10:03  dave ->  @james john says 17
 19:10:06  JenWagner ->  what about them owning your content -- then they changed it -- but if you use CHROME, they say their do have rights to your content
 19:10:18  JenWagner ->  did you read that information??
 19:10:21  Lorna ->  firefox has firebug
 19:10:35  Gary ->  I set it up with Parallels but don't use that much
 19:10:52  James Sigler ->  @Gary on linux?
 19:10:57  JohnS ->  Speed test: Google Chrome beats Firefox, IE, Safari: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10030888-92.html?tag=mncol;txt  and Beta Browser Speed Tests: Which Is Fastest?: http://lifehacker.com/5044668/beta-browser-speed-tests-which-is-fastest [20]
 19:11:15  Gary ->  Sometimes
 19:11:26  Gary ->  But again - not much
 19:11:39  Gary ->  Oh - no not yet
 19:12:03  Gary ->  On Windows
 19:12:08  JenWagner ->  disable google ads???d
 19:12:19  James Sigler ->  @Gary did you get Chrome to work on Linux using parallels?
 19:12:28  JenWagner ->  http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/09/google_updating_chrome_eula_to_be_less... [21]
 19:12:41  Gary ->  No - just Windows @ James
 19:12:43  JenWagner ->  that's the article about Chrome owning content
 19:13:22  JohnS ->  Virtual environment boosts reading skills : http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/?i=55088 [22]
 19:13:26  JL ->  they did change the eula, yes?
 19:13:33  JenWagner ->  they have edited it a bit
 19:13:36  JohnS ->  http://atlantis.crlt.indiana.edu/site/view/Educators# [23]
 19:14:50  JenWagner ->  they still say that they can use your content when they wish -- but in a better way than I just did
 19:14:52  James Sigler ->  fun tied to curriculum?
 19:15:41  James Sigler ->  Is it worth the cost?
 19:15:45  dave ->  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1052309/MICHAEL-HANLON-Ar... [24]
 19:15:58  JenWagner ->  LOL -- I read that blog too
 19:16:16  JenWagner ->  I am not worried -- but am wondering
 19:16:32  JenWagner ->  where is it going to happen though
 19:16:32  Gary ->  Most of the stories have not science basis behind them
 19:16:43  ccapo ->  another great one like this is called power up the game http://www.powerupthegame.org/ [25]
 19:16:58  JenWagner ->  looks like a space shuttle engine to me
 19:16:58  Cathy E ->  I won't have my "to do" list done by Wed.
 19:16:58  JenM ->  CCK08: On Twitter - http://twitter.com/cck08 [26] ... and ... Google Groups ... http://groups.google.ca/group/connectivism [27] ... and ... Second Life http://groups.google.ca/group/connectivism/browse_thread/thread/6af1bb3e... [28] ... and Facebook http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31924181180 [29] ... in person - http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=101659969634438263199.00045605... [30]
 19:17:10  Gary ->  Not me
 19:17:14  ccapo ->  save the planet
 19:17:32  James Sigler ->  It doesn't take long to start a black hole
 19:17:38  JenWagner ->  ohhh like the background music
 19:18:04  James Sigler ->  sweet music
 19:18:11  Gary ->  But they are not going to create a black hole
 19:18:13  JenWagner ->  Did you chck the NEW Facebook Look Jen
 19:18:17  JohnS ->  poor DaveC.
 19:18:37  DaveC (not dave) ->  :-)
 19:18:40  JenWagner ->  live session of what???
 19:18:52  PeggyG ->  There was a really interesting conversation on Second Life this morning with Learning 2.008 Shanghai--David Warlick & Ewan McIntosh. Anyone hear it?
 19:19:00  JenWagner ->  PeggyG -- I was there
 19:19:07  JenWagner ->  it was interesting
 19:19:14  DaveC (not dave) ->  @Peggy, I was there for most of it.  Yes, it was interesting!
 19:19:28  JenWagner ->  DaveC - not dave -- you were there too??
 19:19:28  James Sigler ->  @Gary my bad...global votex, not black hole
 19:19:30  PeggyG ->  I listened through the post-show convo and found it fascinating. Did you?
 19:19:38  DaveC (not dave) ->  Dee Clary in SL
 19:19:38  JenM ->  CCK08 Live on Elluminate: https://sas.elluminate.com/site/external/launch/meeting.jnlp?sid=2008104... [31]
 19:19:41  JenWagner ->  Peggy -- it was spirited at times
 19:20:00  JenWagner ->  had a couple of unique happenings too
 19:20:12  JL ->  http://terry-freedman.org.uk/artman/publish/Not_K12_Online.php [32]
 19:20:18  JenM ->  CCK08 Live on Ustream ... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/connectivism-and-connective-knowledge [33]
 19:20:20  JenWagner ->  so -- first come to first serve at CCK08 Elluminate??
 19:20:25  PeggyG ->  Yes! my SL froze and I could hear but couldn't participate in chat. That was frustrating but I didn't want to log out
 19:20:46  JenWagner ->  TerryF is on WOW2 Tuesday and I believe Sharon talked with him about this article -- he will be taped on WOW2
 19:21:17  PeggyG ->  It's been interesting to follow the NotK12online conference discussion. I understood it better after listening to Wes Fryer's podcast.
 19:21:29  JenWagner ->  come Tuesday night to hear more
 19:21:50  PeggyG ->  I wouldn't miss it. Terry is one of my favorite people.
 19:21:57  James Sigler ->  I had wondered what Notk12Online conference was about
 19:22:00  JenWagner ->  no -- because they shared their perhaps off the record thoughts
 19:22:09  JenWagner ->  yes
 19:22:16  dave ->  stay on message stay on message
 19:22:20  dave ->  stay on message
 19:22:21  JohnS ->  Cells Alive: http://www.cellsalive.com/  The Chemistry Collective: http://www.chemcollective.org/   Freshwater ecoregions of the world: http://www.feow.org/index.php  Anatomy Arcade: http://www.anatomyarcade.com/index.html [34]
 19:22:25  dave ->  stay on message
 19:22:39  Gary ->  You are welcome
 19:23:05  James Sigler ->  Hey Durff!
 19:23:10  JenWagner ->  @speters -- we were just talking kinda sorta about you
 19:23:15  JenWagner ->  and Tuesday night
 19:23:18  speters ->  hi!
 19:23:23  speters ->  ohhhhhh????
 19:23:28  mrsdurff ->  those cells make sounds
 19:23:32  JenWagner ->  Your INterview with Terry
 19:23:36  JenWagner ->  for Tuesday night
 19:23:39  speters ->  ah yes
 19:23:51  speters ->  the conversation went well earlier this afternoon
 19:23:52  Alvin Trusty ->  the chem labs are excellent
 19:25:07  alexiskrysten ->  I accidently logged out and missed a couple of sites that I wanted to view. How do I go back?
 19:25:12  dave ->  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7599652.stm [35]
 19:25:20  ccapo ->  anyone teaching anatomy heres a great one.... interactive human body http://www.visiblebody.com/  awesome
 19:25:36  Gary ->  that one was for you Dave
 19:25:42  speters ->  is that sarcasm in Dave's voice?? I am ecstatic about this!
 19:26:52  Gary ->  Only in the US
 19:26:57  JenWagner ->  have @speters on the show -- let her talk about her experiences with 1lpc
 19:27:05  JenWagner ->  or Kathy Shields
 19:27:10  Alvin Trusty ->  Did anyone see the $98 laptop last week?
 19:27:16  speters ->  I was just told yesterday that the two XOs I left behind at Longonot Secondary School iin Kenya are very much used and appreciated by the students there!
 19:27:26  JenM ->  Journal of Distance Education now Open Access at http://www.jofde.ca/ [36] ... read about it here ... http://www.bcitltc.com/2008/09/journal-of-distance-education-archives.html [37]
 19:27:29  Alvin Trusty ->  http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/100_laptop_to_come_from_china?... [38]
 19:27:40  PeggyG ->  wish we could control/earmark where we want the 2nd OLPC laptop to go-would like it to go to Sharon's group in Africa.
 19:28:02  dave ->  @PeggyG buy laptops and send them... or, better, send them the money
 19:28:07  JL ->  http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/09/05/facebook.spies/?iref=hpmostpop         
 19:28:14  speters ->  thanks Peggy! I know of a few places in Africa I could send them
 19:28:18  JenWagner ->  PeggyG -- we are trying to get something organized...........life has just been too busy
 19:28:31  Alvin Trusty ->  $98 laptop company site - http://hvsco.com [39]
 19:28:40  speters ->  no, Dave, not better yet, if the money is to be earmarked for laptops in Kenya  - at least - the quality is very poor
 19:28:48  JenM ->  Thanks, Alvin!
 19:28:54  JL ->  http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/03/begging-states-to-tr.html [40]
 19:29:11  JenWagner ->  problem is -- I want to pay $100 for a computer with more than a 7" monitor.   :)
 19:29:16  mrsdurff ->  get a teenager to hack in and time them
 19:29:32  speters ->  however, if one wants to send $$ to a TRUSTWORTHY NGO in Africa, that is a better choice to support their economy
 19:29:37  Alvin Trusty ->  only federal laws are copyright free
 19:29:45  Alvin Trusty ->  it has to be the federal gov
 19:30:00  JenWagner ->  Ohhhh -- that could be very interesting
 19:30:14  Alvin Trusty ->  not available until Oct
 19:30:35  mrsdurff ->  Alvin did i hear right that you are buying us all a laptop? how kind!
 19:30:42  JohnS ->  Kitzu: http://www.kitzu.com/ [41]
 19:30:52  JenWagner ->  I am trying to think of what federal document I had to pay for online..........I cna't think of any
 19:31:46  JenWagner ->  I have had to pay to submit them -- but not to download or print
 19:31:59  James Sigler ->  I wonder if the $100 latop's XP copy is legal at that price?
 19:32:22  dave ->  http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2008/09/winners-of-worl.html [42]
 19:32:30  JenWagner ->  LOL -- everything else must be free -- because isn't XP about $100 on its own   :)
 19:32:51  JL ->  http://www.slideshare.net/contest/results-2008   
 19:32:59  JenWagner ->  Thank you for the warning!!  Very appreciated
 19:34:32  James Sigler ->  Approach is content is more important that the content?  Imagine...
 19:34:46  JenM ->  Doctoral Thesis Digital Migration Project ... http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/handle/10063/415 [43]
 19:34:51  James Sigler ->  Education could learn from that
 19:35:00  JenWagner ->  I care, Jen
 19:35:31  JenWagner ->  ummmm.....LOL.....maybe spoke too soon.      :)
 19:36:20  PeggyG ->  seems so funny to hear about the challenges of digitisation of doctoral dissertations :-) I typed mine on a typewriter :-) no computers then.
 19:36:21  alexiskrysten ->  Digital Migration - Go Green!
 19:36:22  JL ->  http://schoolofeverything.com/    
 19:36:27  DaveC (not dave) ->  did you read itonline, or print it first?
 19:36:44  JenWagner ->  Ohhhh I signed up for that --
 19:36:50  JenWagner ->  have a student already -- contacting me
 19:36:51  JenM ->  @jw ... so mean tonight :)
 19:36:59  JL ->  http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=009322589025648193163:pxsi0gkol0i [44]
 19:37:08  JenWagner ->  just teasing JENM
 19:37:18  JenM ->  @jw (kiss, kiss)
 19:37:27  JenWagner ->  I hope to never ever have to write a doctorate
 19:37:34  JohnS ->  The 5 Best Free File Hosting Services To Store Your Files!: http://www.smashingapps.com/2008/08/28/5-best-free-file-hosting-services... [45]
 19:37:36  sheila ->  Don't like phone calls at this time! Especially long ones!
 19:38:18  JenWagner ->  just tried box.net this weekend for something I am selling online -- it is working well
 19:38:28  dave ->  https://labs.toolness.com/ubiquity-herd/all-feeds/ [46]
 19:38:51  JenWagner ->  {{JenM}}
 19:39:10  dave ->  https://labs.toolness.com/ubiquity-herd/all-feeds/4aa12343bf5287207cde3d... [47]
 19:39:18  JenWagner ->  @PeggyG -- you are Dr. Peggy???
 19:39:31  PeggyG ->  Yup :-)
 19:39:42  speters ->  Go Peggy! Go Peggy!
 19:39:44  JenWagner ->  WOW
 19:39:49  speters ->  :-)
 19:39:59  PeggyG ->  thanks. blush!
 19:40:10  JenWagner ->  and think, you still allow yourself to be seen with us    :)
 19:40:25  PeggyG ->  Proud to be seen with all of you!
 19:40:28  Lorna ->  Dr.??
 19:40:34  Lorna ->  fill me in pls
 19:40:36  speters ->  this conversation has become ubiquitous
 19:40:51  JenM ->  Free Knowledge Institute (FKFT 2008) Proceedings ... http://fkft.eu/en/proceedings [48] ... see the videos ... http://fkft.eu/videos [49]
 19:40:56  Gary ->  @speters LOL
 19:41:06  James Sigler ->  I now feel ubiquitous :)
 19:41:43  JL ->  http://www.blind-planet.com/ [50]  
 19:41:46  speters ->  Jeff so called the eyes glazing over thing.... I was lost!
 19:42:26  JohnS ->  Guess the Google: http://grant.robinson.name/projects/guess-the-google/ [51]
 19:42:54  speters ->  ... and Dave was sooo very very enthusiastic about it! He outgeeks me by some!
 19:43:02  JenWagner ->  JohnS -- I was HORRID at this
 19:43:08  JenWagner ->  HORRID
 19:43:36  James Sigler ->  I sounds fun, but is it safe to use in front of a class?
 19:43:37  PeggyG ->  LOL
 19:43:45  JenWagner ->  go ahead and repeat LINKS -- we don't always listen carefully
 19:43:58  JenM ->  Edmodo ... http://www.edmodo.com/ [52] ... does it work for anyone??
 19:43:59  PeggyG ->  and I don't always remember :-)
 19:44:13  JenWagner ->  plus we like your sparring about stolen links
 19:44:22  Jason R ->  Greetings
 19:44:40  JenWagner ->  Hey Jason R  
 19:44:40  JohnS ->  Yeah, we could actually arrange which links we're going to use, but what would be the fun in that?
 19:44:53  PeggyG ->  what a disappointing trial, Jen.--edmodo. Haven't tried it.
 19:44:56  JenWagner ->  JohnS -- I like the show just the way it is -- double links and all
 19:45:42  James Sigler ->  Is edmodo Twitter for schools?
 19:45:42  JenWagner ->  and this is just the first WE heard of it
 19:45:57  JenWagner ->  I am always the last to know     :)
 19:46:04  speters ->  Alec Couros posted a review within 10 minutes.... wow! I want to become an academic with all that time on his hands!
 19:46:17  bobcaro ->  310 - first attempt at Guess-the-google
 19:46:24  sheila ->  ds set up an assignment for his group
 19:46:34  Alvin Trusty ->  Chrome is 475k - took a minute
 19:46:38  bobcaro ->  ..missed the last one completely
 19:46:39  JenWagner ->  WOW -- we talked about it at WOW2 -- but not many had heard of it
 19:46:43  JohnS ->  Twitter wordpress theme http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/introducing-prologue/ [53]
 19:46:55  JenWagner ->  ohhh JohnS -- A THEME A THEME!!!
 19:46:58  JenM ->  @james ... I think so, but with a bit "more" ... I guess
 19:47:11  ccapo ->  one fun site that you all might have to try is www.karaokeparty.com  too fun!
 19:47:22  speters ->  who would want that??
 19:47:33  speters ->  140 characters? blog post??
 19:47:42  JL ->  http://scoop.kuro5hin.org/ [54]
 19:47:44  JenM ->  Here is where I am heading in the next 15 minutes ... http://www.hobokenitalianfestival.com/ [55]
 19:47:48  Jason R ->  karaokebridges?
 19:47:57  speters ->  LOL
 19:48:00  JohnS ->  I think he's already registered it.
 19:48:14  JenWagner ->  hobokenbridges??
 19:48:52  Gary ->  For those who like flowcharts: http://www.projectsidewalk.com/images/flowchart2.jpg [56]
 19:49:06  bobcaro ->  create a "haiku only" wordpress theme next
 19:49:08  JenWagner ->  POST SHOW???
 19:49:09  speters ->  I came late, but has anyone mentioned the CCK08 phenomena? My inbox sure is full of those moodle intros
 19:49:17  JenWagner ->  yes @speters
 19:49:21  PeggyG ->  thanks all--lots of open tabs to explore!
 19:49:22  JenWagner ->  it took the first 10 minutes of the show
 19:49:38  JenWagner ->  what time Tuesday??
 19:49:42  speters ->  RATS!
 19:49:54  JenWagner ->  and it sequed into the NOT for K12
 19:50:00  JenWagner ->  and that is where we talked about you
 19:50:03  JenWagner ->  and TERRY
 19:50:05  speters ->  oh
 19:50:07  speters ->  ah
 19:50:07  JenWagner ->  and the show on Tuesday n ight
 19:50:14  speters ->  that certainly was discussed
 19:50:27  JenWagner ->  yes, I was sured itwas
 19:50:39  speters ->  and have already emailed Bud Hunt about coming on the show to talk about the NK12O event
 19:50:40  JenWagner ->  Sharon -- they are talking about something Tuesday night during the 9pm hour
 19:50:45  JenWagner ->  should we say SOMETHING????
 19:51:08  DaveC (not dave) ->  http://www.efest.org.nz/  ???
 19:51:14  JenWagner ->  Yes, Terry is pre-recorded
 19:51:16  speters ->  Terry is pre-recorded
 19:51:25  JenWagner ->  Bud will be on later
 19:51:29  speters ->  well c'mon, 5 hours time difference
 19:51:30  JenWagner ->  another day
 19:51:39  DaveC (not dave) ->  np :-)
 19:51:51  speters ->  are you guys traveling to NZ for the event?
 19:51:58  JenWagner ->  sooo -- will you be streaming why we streaming -- and is that a problem???
 19:52:03  JenWagner ->  while we stream
 19:52:12  vanhookc ->  are your chat notes archived somewhere, first time to be here?
 19:52:21  JenWagner ->  Brian Crosby found out LAST WEEK that he is heading to SHANGHAI this week
 19:52:39  JohnS ->  It'll be posted later tonight or tomorrow morning at edtechtalk.com
 19:52:46  Jason R ->  The e is for ed not environment?
 19:53:10  vanhookc ->  Thanks, JohnS
 19:53:23  PeggyG ->  Yes, I was excited to hear that Brian will be going to Shanghai--understand lots of visa issues at last minute
 19:53:45  JenWagner ->  Yes, Jeff said that some things sort were interesting the last few weeks
 19:53:56  JenWagner ->  Jeff Utecht
 19:54:16  JenWagner ->  rawk
 19:54:17  PeggyG ->  that's what I gathered but they have organized some incredible opportunities both f2f & virtual. I'm looking forward to participating
 19:54:29  JenM ->  Tawm
 19:54:35  JenWagner ->  Yes, it will be interesting
 19:54:38  JenM ->  Tom
 19:54:43  JenWagner ->  I think I will lose some sleep durnig the Learning 2.008
 19:54:52  PeggyG ->  me too!
 19:55:05  JenWagner ->  but they are not sure how much will be streamed
 19:55:41  PeggyG ->  thought they planned to stream all of the unconference stuff
 19:56:07  JenWagner ->  so -- it begins this time next week
 19:56:09  Gary ->  Thats why the audio never makes sense with the chat
 19:56:19  JenWagner ->  Gary -- yep the 30 second delay
 19:56:20  sheila ->  the lost bits of audio . . .
 19:56:37  PeggyG ->  yes it's confusing because it's actually the day before in my time than Shanghai time.
 19:56:42  JenWagner ->  Yeppers
 19:56:54  JenWagner ->  making travel plans was interesting for some people
 19:57:04  PeggyG ->  I'll bet it was!
 19:57:32  JenWagner ->  that is why CF is getting there a few days early -- just in case
 19:57:33  Gary ->  But if TWIT cut their content the Dvorak drinking game would be dead
 19:57:42  PeggyG ->  I'm putting the Shanghai clock/time on my iGoogle page next to my AZ clock to help me figure it out
 19:57:50  JenWagner ->  Peggy -- ohhh good idea
 19:58:05  JenWagner ->  I shall do the same
 19:58:25  PeggyG ->  I started doing that following the Olympics and it worked great
 19:58:31  JenWagner ->  emmmmmmm do you really??
 19:58:44  Gary ->  You need a Dave drinking game and then would not need to edit
 19:58:51  JenWagner ->  do you edit emms in chat too??
 19:59:01  PeggyG ->  this is just fascinating :-) can't leave!
 19:59:14  JenWagner ->  shots of cherry coke -- I will play
 19:59:22  mrsdurff ->  who said our attention is here?
 19:59:25  speters ->  Are you kidding? I get some of best laughs every week listening to you guys?
 19:59:44  JenWagner ->  none of us are really here -- we have wandered to other sites and forgot to close the window
 20:00:06  JenWagner ->  LOLOL
 20:00:11  JenWagner ->  I snorted
 20:00:12  PeggyG ->  I'm just thrilled I haven't crashed with so many open links! :-)
 20:00:22  mrsdurff ->  i'm not here either
 20:00:26  vanhookc ->  I am adding magazines to a library catalog. You are just background great entertainment!
 20:00:32  sheila ->  Did you edit that out?
 20:01:04  Not Jen Wagner ->  I love POST SHOW
 20:01:08  speters ->  Hi NOtJenWagner
 20:01:24  Not Jen Wagner ->  I think they should have POST SHOW first every week
 20:01:43  mrsdurff ->  dave will make people cry
 20:01:52  PeggyG ->  night all
 20:01:52  Not Jen Wagner ->  good night and thanks
 20:01:55  DaveC (not dave) ->  bye everyone.
 20:01:56  Not Jen Wagner ->  night
 20:02:02  JenM ->  Nite all!!!!!!! Thank you for hanging in there!!!!!!
 20:02:02  sheila ->  Thanks!
 20:02:04  mrsdurff ->  night not jen wagner
 20:02:07  Gary ->  Thanks again
 20:02:16  speters ->  great show guys!
 20:02:19  JL ->  Thanks all