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18:36:57 courosa -> beautiful
18:53:04 PeggyG -> audio is great but the studio view was really messed up.
18:54:07 PeggyG -> or very very hungry :-)
18:54:29 courosa -> I think you really need to get 9 people in, stacked in 3's and play hollywood squares some episode.
18:54:37 PeggyG -> LOL
18:56:28 courosa -> you can stack people easily in Adobe Connect ... would be a fun format as you passed things between people. :-)
18:58:05 courosa -> so ... can someone explain the setup? I'm curious. Mebeam ... skype audio? and then what for the video stream?
18:58:25 courosa -> what is pushing to ustream?
18:58:26 Steve_K -> Could someone copy a link to the audio in the chate room? Thanks!
18:59:11 JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/studio 
18:59:15 courosa -> what is jeff using to go to ustream?
18:59:24 sharonp -> and this set up is easier than...???
18:59:24 courosa -> like a camtwist type equiv?
18:59:27 JL -> htttp://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
18:59:42 courosa -> ok
19:00:15 courosa -> thanks ... planning for my next course in January, looking for possibilities.
19:00:22 courosa -> but is windows only
19:00:23 JenW -> Yeah!! The old chat toolbar is back!!!
19:00:41 JenW -> oh yes
19:00:48 courosa -> it does add
19:00:50 sharonp -> LOL.....seeing you.... hmmm
19:00:59 JenW -> who is the 3rd window???
19:01:05 PeggyG -> Hooray for colors :-)
19:01:12 Gary -> Yes but hard to eat and watch you at the same time.
19:01:18 courosa -> i liked the other chat window better, for me on the mac it was better IMHO.
19:01:23 JL -> http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk 
19:01:41 PeggyG -> yes-I went to mebeam from the link and saw myself and clicked on the X :-)
19:01:45 JenW -> last week -- you had a different chat
19:01:55 courosa -> there was a different chat software a few days ago, or was it last week?
19:02:01 JenW -> no -- you had a different chat window too
19:02:07 JenW -> thanks Alec
19:02:09 JenW -> :)
19:02:09 Cathy E -> She is correct - there was a different chat
19:02:11 JenW -> yep
19:02:16 PeggyG -> NO the chat window for the last week didn't have the color wheel
19:02:20 JenW -> NO -- the entire sign in
19:02:29 JenW -> nope -- it didn't even have the password sign in
19:02:34 courosa -> a few days ago it was different, whever i was last in here
19:02:35 JenW -> it was COMPLETELY differrnt
19:02:41 JenW -> now it is back to NORMAL
19:02:44 PeggyG -> it's old but was missing last week
19:02:45 JenW -> yep --
19:02:54 courosa -> yes, it was completely diferent agreed
19:02:59 JenW -> sighs -- we can discuss it in POST SHOW
19:03:09 Cathy E -> So we all vote- it WAS different
19:03:17 JenW -> So glad that I wasn't just like WEIRDING out
19:03:17 PeggyG -> I learned my lesson--don't start edtechweekly with any tabs open!
19:03:39 JenW -> so -- again -- who is the female in the 3rd window?? should I know that person!?!?!
19:03:52 PeggyG -> Carla
19:03:55 JenW -> do we have anew host??
19:03:59 JenW -> OHHHHH Hi Carla
19:04:06 Gary -> and what is the beer tonight?
19:04:08 JenW -> they announced it
19:04:13 JenW -> howling
19:04:16 courosa -> was someone just bludgeoned?
19:04:18 sharonp -> WHAT wwas that??
19:04:31 JohnS -> Belgian Wit for Jeff, Belgian Trippel for me.
19:04:41 Cathy E -> Is memeab free?
19:04:47 JohnS -> yes
19:05:00 Gary -> thanks
19:05:07 PeggyG -> lost the stream for a minute-had to refresh
19:05:10 JenW -> can you remove the blue squares?? or are they there because people were in them at one time??
19:05:13 courosa -> does mebeam work on the mac?
19:05:29 JenW -> can we just ask questions today that you answer
19:05:41 PeggyG -> Yes on Mac
19:06:07 sharonp -> Alec and I would have lots of questions about .... trolls....
19:06:11 courosa -> i tried on the mac, and it doesn't seem to want to work
19:06:30 JenW -> how much are they paying you, Carla
19:06:54 courosa -> @sharonp haha ... no more trolls today. or perhaps we should have a special show on how to deter trolls?
19:06:55 dave -> http://doug-johnson.squarespace.com/blue-skunk-blog/2008/9/11/never-judg... 
19:07:11 sharonp -> laying traps for trolls
19:07:24 PeggyG -> @courosa-I haven't tried to initiate one but I participated in one and logged in briefly today on my Mac (about 3 seconds)
19:07:35 JenW -> I read that post
19:07:37 courosa -> hilarious!
19:07:42 JenW -> I think iJohnpederson linked to it in twitter
19:07:42 JenM -> Open education book: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11309 
19:08:27 Gary -> We thought you did a lot of stealing from each other. :)
19:08:35 courosa -> looks like some good titles
19:08:43 JL -> http://web2expo.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc http://en.oreilly.com/webexny2008/public/schedule/proceedings 
19:08:46 sharonp -> super cool
19:09:02 sharonp -> Awwww... I missed the expo?!
19:09:07 JenW -> is it Meebo??
19:09:20 JenW -> or Meabo?? Meeboo?? :) what are they using again??
19:09:26 courosa -> shirkey
19:09:27 mrsdurff -> i went to the expo in montreal when i was a kid
19:09:30 courosa -> shirky
19:09:51 courosa -> close your eyes!
19:09:58 JenW -> closed
19:09:59 Cathy E -> http://www.mebeam.com/ 
19:10:03 JenW -> thank you
19:10:07 mrsdurff -> here, here for easiness!
19:10:07 JohnS -> Educational Uses of Digital Storytelling: http://digitalstorytelling.coe.uh.edu/ 
19:10:14 courosa -> that's how i convert to audio
19:10:23 sharonp -> wow those titles are uber-geeky
19:11:01 courosa -> nice resource!
19:11:36 carlaarena -> http://edmodo.com 
19:11:37 courosa -> timely, just what i needed
19:11:47 mrsdurff -> hey carla!
19:13:29 cheryloakes -> Carla, we have tried edmodo too and it looks good.
19:13:55 JohnS -> Is that Cheryl between Carla and Jen? I'm just starting to get the faces down.
19:14:14 cheryloakes -> I have glasses on, and a pink vest.
19:15:12 carlaarena -> firstname.lastname@example.org 
19:15:32 dave -> http://www.shatters.net/celestia/  http://www.paleoportal.org/index.php?globalnav=audience§ionnav=k16 
19:15:57 JenM -> Book - Here comes everybody: http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/168716646&referer=brief_results 
19:16:02 carlaarena -> yes, John, it's cheryl
19:16:13 Ron -> books?
19:16:16 carlaarena -> hey, durff
19:16:17 JohnS -> Right. Got it. Thanks.
19:16:25 JohnS -> That's two book links, right?
19:16:40 Ron -> Oh - thats a awsome book... using that in our PLC book study right now
19:17:00 carlaarena -> @courosa, edmodo is worth a try
19:17:04 JL4 -> http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2008/09/14/convert_video_to_audio_fro... 
19:17:26 mrsdurff -> hi derrall
19:17:27 JenM -> @ron ... it is a good book, right?
19:17:43 dave -> my mebeam shockwave player crashed
19:17:47 dave -> was using chrome
19:17:49 derrallg -> hi mrsdurff
19:17:52 PeggyG -> http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html Great blog post I just read today by Clay Shirky
19:17:56 dave -> so it only crashed the plugin!
19:17:58 carlaarena -> mine too, dave
19:18:06 mrsdurff -> who?
19:18:09 cheryloakes -> Hey derrallg, how are you?
19:18:11 carlaarena -> I'm using firefox
19:18:35 mrsdurff -> ah!
19:18:38 courosa -> @carlaarena I will be checking it out more in the future. Thanks.
19:18:38 Ron -> @JENM - Great book - very applicable to todays education environment
19:18:40 JohnS -> Sarah Palin's email hacked: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked 
19:18:44 mrsdurff -> the root guy
19:18:48 derrallg -> @cheryl good thanks just getting back into the swing of things
19:18:48 courosa -> yes sdave!
19:19:06 cheryloakes -> Yummy Carla
19:19:11 Ron -> Not to use your real info for your 'secret' info
19:19:12 courosa -> 1) always lie about your mother's maiden name!
19:19:26 cheryloakes -> always make up your own questions!
19:19:28 Ron -> Make up your own secret answers
19:19:46 PeggyG -> my problem is remembered what I "lied about" :-)
19:19:59 PeggyG -> like mother's maiden name :-)
19:20:00 cheryloakes -> Peggy, you are not a good liar?
19:20:00 JohnS -> Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/palin-e-mail-ha.html 
19:20:02 sharonp -> @PeggyG I have that problem too
19:20:16 angelamaiers -> Hi All!
19:20:17 PeggyG -> no I'm a terrible lier-don't trust my memory!
19:20:23 JohnS -> Proxy server trail leads FBI to Palin email hacker : http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-39405-108.html 
19:20:43 mrsdurff -> so john out with it - who did you hack this week?
19:21:00 angelamaiers -> What is the topic tonight?
19:21:02 courosa -> The Palin example is a good teachable moment to students. I will use it this week when I talk about privacy online.
19:21:12 sharonp -> learn by example and modeling
19:21:16 mrsdurff -> we are all for education
19:21:21 sharonp -> good idea Alec
19:21:26 PeggyG -> no topic-just sharing new links and tools :-)
19:21:39 James Sigler -> Thanks Sarah Palin for helping me teach about what not what to do
19:21:41 angelamaiers -> Thanks-PeggyG!
19:21:53 Gary -> Hmm and if McCain won and then died .....?
19:22:13 angelamaiers -> @courosa - I completely agree-Palin is a great teaching moment
19:22:33 Gary -> Is there still a real "red phone" with access to the button?
19:22:48 courosa -> Someone put up a controversial site today called http://www.freelevi.org  , seeing Palin's son-in-law as a political prisoner (caution, may be offensive to some).
19:23:01 courosa -> think it's from Bill Maher
19:23:11 mrsdurff -> what is her link?
19:23:16 dave -> can Bill Maher be offensive?
19:23:18 mrsdurff -> docstock?
19:23:30 courosa -> @dave ... never!
19:23:46 JL4 -> http://docstoc.com/ 
19:23:53 mrsdurff -> thanks
19:23:57 angelamaiers -> Thanks for the link!
19:23:58 James Sigler -> The MeBeam interface is neat, but I don't know that anything could beat the Oovoo look and feel
19:24:16 courosa -> @james is oovoo better?
19:24:20 dave -> http://ltc.umanitoba.ca:83/moodle/mod/forum/index.php?id=20 
19:24:21 carlaarena -> http://docstoc.com 
19:24:32 cheryloakes -> OOvOO doesn't play nicely with macs and usb mics. we have n't found a good match.
19:24:35 sharonp -> we "did" knowledge....LOL
19:24:42 Ron -> oovoo + macs = bad though
19:24:44 mrsdurff -> he is so mean - carla you are fantastic no matter what the root geek says
19:24:50 courosa -> interesting how knowledge was an unpopular topic with many teachers
19:25:03 James Sigler -> I saw it here one week, it looked very slick
19:25:09 courosa -> can we talk about trolls next week dave?
19:25:43 carlaarena -> Connectivism course cck08
19:25:45 sharonp -> The forum has become a bit of a spectator sport
19:25:48 dave -> yes... a few trolls
19:25:51 courosa -> only have ot login if you post
19:25:54 Gary -> Or you could follow courosa and others on Twitter
19:26:18 sharonp -> I created my own Pageflakes page for the course blog last night.... trying to put order into chaos
19:26:20 mrsdurff -> dave & academic are not words that go together
19:26:32 JenM -> Check your carbon footprint: http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/footprint 
19:26:35 courosa -> @sharonp Perfect of example of the need for PLEs
19:26:37 James Sigler -> Who is the blue screen
19:26:54 Alvin Trusty -> I exhale a lot of CO2.
19:26:59 sharonp -> yes, I had to create a new one (PLE) just for the course!
19:27:00 carlaarena -> @sharonp I have things on my igoogle
19:27:09 JohnS -> Alvin, you're destroying the Earth.
19:27:17 cheryloakes -> see ya, off to dinner.
19:27:19 Alvin Trusty -> one breathe at a time
19:27:25 mrsdurff -> bye cheryl
19:27:27 PeggyG -> I'm starting to have trouble keeping up with all of my Pageflakes too!
19:27:38 sharonp -> I have a very full igoogle page - I suppose I could have started a new igoogle page, but I had fun exploring with pageflakes
19:27:54 JenW -> I started a pageflakes -- but didn't know how to add my blogroll -- my RSS feed for blogs I read -- Am I just missing it??
19:27:56 carlaarena -> I love pageflakes, sharon
19:28:00 JenW -> my igoogle page works just great
19:28:09 PeggyG -> I love Pageflakes but I also use iGoogle
19:28:10 carlaarena -> Add feeds, jen
19:28:19 JL4 -> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/09/google-audio-indexing.html  http://valleywag.com/5052002/the-keywords-john-mccain-and-barack-obama-a... 
19:28:21 sharonp -> @jenw takes a bit of looking to find the add rss feeds button
19:28:25 JenW -> I tried Carla -- but it gave me ideas-- didn't allow me to add what I wanted
19:28:48 JenW -> thanks Sharon -- I will look a bit harder :)
19:28:57 Alvin Trusty -> it's OCR for audio
19:29:23 James Sigler -> I like that it can search for the clip
19:29:30 JenW -> what do you mean "PAID FOR"
19:29:32 sharonp -> http://classportal.org/tutorials/2008/05/pageflakes/ 
19:29:45 JenW -> you mean they are manipulating our results??
19:29:54 JohnS -> Audacity Tutorials: http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/1-0-0-0_good_practice/gp-how-to/gp_howto_au... 
19:30:03 courosa -> "global warming" was owned by the National Petroleum Institute in 2000, and 2004.
19:30:04 Ron -> glad I never see the ads... adblock plus + firefox is bliss
19:31:04 PeggyG -> I stopped using adblocks because it was preventing popup windows on edtechtalk from opening up
19:31:17 angelamaiers -> Two sites that I have found helpful this week- http://www.wordia.com-  this is a video dictionary and also http://www.dabbleboard.com/main Teachers have loved both!
19:31:26 dave -> http://www.gees.ac.uk/events/2008/ac08/main/day2/paul.mp3 
19:31:34 Ron -> You can 'whitelist' sites in adblock... I have done that with a few
19:31:56 PeggyG -> I really liked dabbleboard when you shared it last week! Thanks Angela
19:31:58 James Sigler -> My Firefox 3 just crashed on my desktop
19:32:09 James Sigler -> rats
19:32:21 dave -> http://www.gees.ac.uk/events/2008/ac08/ac08.htm 
19:32:37 PeggyG -> @Ron I didn't have luck with that-I told it to allow popups for ETT and it still didn't. Probably "operator error"
19:32:38 JenM -> PDF annotation (yes ... more annotation from jen): http://www.ograhl.com/en/pdfannotator/index.php  ... and ... http://www.ograhl.com/en/pdfannotator/index.php 
19:33:01 Ron -> @peggyG... hehe
19:34:14 JL4 -> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/why-sergey-brin-may-have-disclosed-his-heightened-risk-for-parkinsons/?ref=technology http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/articl... 
19:34:28 Ron -> Bluebeam works pretty well - way faster then Adobe CRASHrobat .. http://www.bluebeam.com/ 
19:35:12 courosa -> Open sourcing medicine would be the best thing ever!
19:35:41 JenM -> @Ron ... thank you ... I forgot the link :) http://www.bluebeam.com/web07/us/store/education_store.asp 
19:35:42 courosa -> Pharmaceutical patents are killing people daily.
19:35:42 JenW -> floating servers??
19:35:48 sharonp -> the biotechnology sector would just LOVE that idea!
19:35:51 PeggyG -> Ewan McIntosh is hosting another TeachMeet on Flashmeeting this week-Sept. 24-always interesting-7 min presentations for several hours http://teachmeet.pbwiki.com/TeachMeet08_SLF2008 
19:36:23 JohnS -> EFF: We're concerned about Google's Omnibox: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10032047-2.html 
19:36:28 derrallg -> Can I be volunteer to be a crew member?
19:36:53 James Sigler -> who would do something like that? ;)
19:37:46 dave -> http://www.jisc.ac.uk/Home/publications/publications/effectivepracticeep... 
19:37:56 dave -> http://www.jisc.ac.uk/media/documents/programmes/elearningsfc/sfcbooklet... 
19:38:23 courosa -> List of free and online mathematics and statistics classes - http://diplomaguide.com/articles/Online_Math_and_Statistics_Classes_Offe... 
19:38:50 JenM -> Endless Scholar Blog: http://endlessscholar.com/ 
19:40:10 JL4 -> http://etc.usf.edu/te_win/index.html http://etc.usf.edu/te_win/index.html 
19:40:33 Gary -> @courosa - Thanks
19:40:51 Ron -> Did you folks mention a link once about taking a picture with your digital camera, emailing it and it converts it to a PDF (site emails the PDF link back to you...)
19:40:54 JL4 -> http://www.imdb.com/features/video/ 
19:41:18 Ron -> Like - using your camera to take a pic of the whiteboard
19:41:40 JohnS -> Teachertube download help, with FLV player: http://www.teachertube.com/download.php and the Current Version of that FLV player: http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/2007/flv-player-20-released/ 
19:41:46 carlaarena -> are u talking about qipit, Ron?
19:41:57 drezac -> don't forget http://www.commoncraft.com  for cool movie descriptions of anything Web 2.0
19:42:01 Ron -> Sounds semi-familiar - I'll go look
19:42:14 Cathy E -> @ Ron -www.zamzar.com
19:42:29 courosa -> why not VLC?
19:42:30 Alvin Trusty -> Save the file as an AVI - http://idesktop.tv 
19:42:33 Ron -> http://www.qipit.com/  - yep that was it! Thanks
19:42:43 Ron -> Thanks Cathy also
19:42:54 derrallg -> I use VLC too they just updated it
19:43:02 courosa -> vlc has a portable option
19:43:08 JenW -> zamzar has really slowed down though -- it too me 2 hours to get a doc back
19:43:14 courosa -> portableapps.com
19:43:17 JenW -> if I paid -- they said it would have been quicker
19:44:17 JohnS -> yeah, that's why I liked the flv player -- didn't need to convert it.
19:44:25 Gary -> Tooble for Mac
19:44:47 mrsdurff -> not unusual dave
19:44:52 courosa -> pomo!
19:44:54 dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Postmodern_Condition 
19:44:58 PeggyG -> have you tried the audo downloader with the Firefox/Flock add-on-just tried it today and it worked perfectly for downloading .flv video
19:45:04 dave -> http://www.idehist.uu.se/distans/ilmh/pm/lyotard-introd.htm 
19:45:17 courosa -> I get ridiculed in my faculty if I DON'T use pomo!
19:45:42 JenW -> please say the guys name again
19:45:53 mrsdurff -> dave is just ridiculed no matter what
19:45:53 JenW -> ohhh again
19:46:04 JenW -> I just like hearing you say his name
19:46:07 courosa -> Lyotard, seminal.
19:46:29 JenM -> Jog The Web: http://www.jogtheweb.com/  ... and ... Edublog sign up - http://www.jogtheweb.com/reader/index.php?trackId=560 
19:46:30 dave -> bye bye metanarratives
19:46:34 Ron -> For FLV download - I use (in Firefox) http://www.downloadhelper.net/it  also has a beta in it to convert to AVI/MPEG/WMV on the fly
19:46:52 courosa -> bye bye metanarratives bye, drove my ...
19:48:18 JenW -> what do I use??
19:48:23 PeggyG -> @Ron-thanks for the URL-that was the Firefox/Flock add-on I was mentioning. It downloaded instantly
19:48:28 derrallg -> I like the look of that, so annotated screen grabs with animation?
19:48:32 JL4 -> http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21195574231 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/09/19/microsofts-im-a-pc-ads-created-on-macs/
19:48:40 JenW -> no -- I was reading a blog post -- lost attention for a bit
19:48:46 JenW -> <-----hates the new look
19:48:46 Ron -> @peggy - glad to help :)
19:48:55 mrsdurff -> ra ra
19:48:57 JenW -> I totally do
19:49:06 courosa -> I really like the status update changes, you can get a good conversation under each status update.
19:49:11 JenM -> No post show for me :(
19:49:21 JenW -> NO POST SHOW -- what will I do??
19:49:22 courosa -> And I hit over 1000 (really close) Facebook friends today. :-)
19:49:27 JenM -> Driving back to NJ as soon as we wind up ...
19:49:34 courosa -> 1000 bffs!
19:49:48 JenM -> @JW ... you can post show without me :(
19:49:49 PeggyG -> Seinfeld ads just didn't cut it--no clear message!
19:49:59 JenW -> JenM -- I just can't
19:50:06 JL4 -> http://www.yehhumnaheen.org/ 
19:50:12 JenW -> but isn't that what SEINFELD was always about
19:50:15 James Sigler -> I love the irony
19:50:17 JenW -> the show that didn't make sense
19:50:24 Gary -> Folow-up will be from Apple.
19:50:39 JenW -> I am a MAC will have fun with the Seinfeld ads
19:50:54 JenW -> I sent in delicious links this week -- but noneof them got mentioned
19:50:58 JenW -> so maybe I did it wrong
19:51:19 PeggyG -> I also loved the irongy of the Mac creating the PC ad :-)
19:51:20 mrsdurff -> dave turned them against us
19:51:34 drezac -> anyone know what happened to sketchcast.com?
19:51:39 JenW -> closeup of John please
19:51:55 PeggyG -> no-sketchcast.com just seemed to disappear :-(
19:51:56 JenW -> in fact -- it got postponed
19:51:58 mrsdurff -> bye Jen
19:51:59 JenW -> the end of the world
19:52:03 courosa -> bye jen
19:52:05 James Sigler -> bye Jen
19:52:05 JohnS -> Hackers attack Large Hadron Collider: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/09/12/scicern212.xml and Electrical fault halts "Big Bang" machine: http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/news_digest/Electrical_fault_halts_Big_Bang... 
19:52:10 derrallg -> bye Jen
19:52:13 JenW -> they canceled or postponed the end of the world
19:52:20 courosa -> The LHC is down for two months now.
19:52:22 JenW -> Its Princess Leai
19:52:27 James Sigler -> Hackers save the world from a black hole
19:52:47 JenM -> Nite all! Hitting the road for a 2 1/2 hour drive home :(
19:52:49 Gary -> It can't cause the end of the world!!!!
19:52:57 JenM -> See you next week!
19:53:14 JenW -> I read they are postpoining it -- NOT closing it down entirely
19:53:36 PeggyG -> safe trip JenM!
19:53:36 Gary -> Well it is CERN where the internet was actually created.
19:53:55 James Sigler -> Like the game Halo?
19:54:07 JohnS -> True, Gary.
19:54:19 JohnS -> Sort of.
19:54:38 Gary -> Well - first extensively used for a purpose
19:55:00 Gary -> Before we knew about it
19:55:01 James Sigler -> Like the game Halo?
19:55:05 JenW -> did Carla make anyone cry??
19:55:05 PeggyG -> LOL
19:55:15 mrsdurff -> crying and screaming
19:55:20 James Sigler -> I like the some square
19:55:25 mrsdurff -> dave that is
19:55:29 PeggyG -> 5 students dropped on first day? must be rigorous!
19:55:31 mrsdurff -> not carla
19:55:34 James Sigler -> zoom square
19:55:58 James Sigler -> what is that?
19:56:37 James Sigler -> lol
19:56:42 Ron -> I agree totally
19:57:05 JohnS -> Stay tuned next week for video of puppets doing the show.
19:57:30 James Sigler -> cool, the Muppet Show
19:58:01 Gary -> EdTechMuppet
19:58:02 PeggyG -> @courosa-you are masterful in the way you design your courses and teach/facilitate them. I don't think everyone can do it.
19:58:25 James Sigler -> Was that Miss Piggy?
19:58:28 mrsdurff -> go Jen!!
19:58:36 mrsdurff -> Join them Jen
19:58:38 JohnS -> http://jenuinetech.com/blog/?p=372 
19:59:03 courosa -> thanks for the compliment Peggy. I'm still learning, and it's way too much fun to teach this way. Stay tuned, I'm offering an open online course again in January. :-)
19:59:22 James Sigler -> neat
19:59:32 mrsdurff -> that sums it up! carla=nice, dave is not
20:00:02 PeggyG -> I learn from your process with every course you teach--content too but especially the process! I'll look forward to the Jan course!
20:00:13 derrallg -> You help them suffer
20:00:24 James Sigler -> Dora!
20:00:40 mrsdurff -> i can imagine dave saying go rot!
20:00:49 Cathy E -> So Dave, do you let them write down the steps as they go along?
20:00:53 James Sigler -> ROFL
20:01:34 JenW -> LOL -- picturing him standing over people with a ruler :)
20:01:43 PeggyG -> my university students resisted my approach to "take responsibility for your own learning"-this is not a step-by-step course. That's why I think it's easier said than done.
20:01:46 James Sigler -> Was that John or Dora talking? I was watching Dora
20:02:15 derrallg -> Are the students allowed to use a mouse with their left hand?
20:02:38 James Sigler -> Thanks for joining us Dora
20:02:43 PeggyG -> Dora has a great smile :-)
20:02:44 JenW -> that is funny
20:02:53 JenW -> but now will you be able to post this archive??
20:03:09 James Sigler -> lol
20:03:13 dora -> hola!
20:03:30 James Sigler -> como esta?
20:03:30 JenW -> wishing I had a video cam -- this could get FUN
20:04:31 James Sigler -> How fun it would be to have kids do a puppet play video conference
20:05:07 JohnS -> Posie's turn in the limelight, Dora.
20:05:12 mrsdurff -> got to go - nite all!
20:05:17 courosa -> gnite
20:05:40 JenW -> would it not be fun for each of us to assume an identity -- like the scarecrow from Wizard of Oz.... Superman,...... etc.....and let them speak for us in the mebeam screen
20:06:00 courosa -> woohoo soundslike a theme show
20:06:01 JenW -> I think I would like to be Elmo :)
20:06:18 dora -> i agree
20:06:21 PeggyG -> @JenW-sounds like second life to me :-)
20:06:40 JenW -> already got an alias for SL -- now I need a alias for ETT??
20:06:44 dora -> second face
20:07:03 PeggyG -> too many avatars and aliases to keep track of for me!
20:07:28 JenW -> even Dora's eyes are glazing over :)
20:07:31 Cathy E -> I'm with you Peggy - I can't keep everyone straight in real live
20:07:41 JenW -> CathyE - your home is okay??
20:07:45 PeggyG -> absolutely!!!
20:08:03 JenW -> is Dora losing it??
20:08:11 Cathy E -> @ Jen - yep- it has been blowing all weekend
20:08:21 James Sigler -> It's the Dora eye
20:08:22 JenW -> okay --
20:08:27 JenW -> wondered how your "pier" was
20:08:34 Cathy E -> still there
20:08:44 JenW -> Does dora ever close her mouth??
20:09:03 dora -> has anyone seen diego?
20:09:04 JenW -> first time seeing her
20:09:19 PeggyG -> Dora is just a happy girl :-)
20:09:30 JohnS -> Boots was here a little while ago, Dora. He was chasing Swiper.
20:09:32 dora -> or my backpack, backpack, backpack, backpack.
20:09:41 James Sigler -> That's why she can't talk. She can't close her mouth
20:09:59 dora -> swiper stop swiping
20:10:08 JohnS -> oh, man.
20:10:40 JenW -> OHNO
20:10:58 derrallg -> good night, time for dinner
20:10:58 courosa -> i think swiper gother
20:11:01 Gary -> My guess is that most of the people in this chat learned most of what they do on-line or with a computer by themselves
20:11:20 JenW -> I am self taught
20:11:22 Cathy E -> so tell me about mebeam
20:11:31 PeggyG -> @Gary-that's true for me-but lots of it was tutorials shared by my PLN
20:11:34 JenW -> okay 10% online learning
20:11:38 James Sigler -> I sure didn't learn it from a course
20:11:40 JL4 -> find out for yourself Cathy :)
20:11:45 JenW -> IE -- online class
20:11:53 courosa -> huge differences between doing this k-12 and uni
20:11:56 Cathy E -> I left myself open for that one
20:11:57 JenW -> the rest -- just playing around and also tutorials
20:12:17 Gary -> @ courosa - Yes
20:12:18 JenW -> Alec -- VERY VERY big difference
20:12:21 JL4 -> I just go to http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk  and watch the cams come on
20:12:28 JenW -> thanks Carla
20:12:34 courosa -> thanks carla
20:12:39 PeggyG -> Carla it was great hearing from you!
20:12:44 courosa -> dora says bye as well
20:13:04 James Sigler -> Bye Dora and Carla
20:13:10 JenW -> I taught online
20:13:15 JenW -> used a message board
20:13:18 carlaarena -> thanks for the great time together here
20:13:26 courosa -> so dave, what about rules of engagement in an open course? say ... handling trolls?
20:13:45 carlaarena -> c ya all!
20:13:51 James Sigler -> Much of my prof. edtech learning this year has been throught the ETT community
20:13:53 PeggyG -> ETT is much more open-ended that a course
20:13:57 carlaarena -> Jeff, seredinpity as always for us1
20:14:04 courosa -> haha
20:14:09 courosa -> maybe dora can tell you more
20:14:12 JenW -> yes, I want to know about the trolls
20:14:14 PeggyG -> Yes I want to hear about the trolls
20:14:38 JenW -> trip trap trip trap trip trap
20:14:43 PeggyG -> are trolls people who just play devil's advocate to stir the pot?
20:14:59 JenW -> that is one of the goats going over the trolls bridge :)
20:15:13 JenW -> please call ALEC
20:15:26 JenW -> what is the count for the Course right now
20:15:31 JenW -> have a lot of people dropped out??
20:15:41 courosa -> would love to talk about this some other time, didn't have headphones handy
20:15:45 James Sigler -> Open courses are not without police
20:16:05 JenW -> so -- can you type about trolls??
20:16:08 PeggyG -> I think a lot of people are reading and lurking as much as they can but not necessarily actively contributing--it's a lot to keep up with
20:16:10 courosa -> but i think there are important questions around the democratic processes in open courses.
20:16:10 James Sigler -> The people should police their own comunity
20:16:21 JenW -> NO -- not rules
20:16:23 JenW -> who posted it
20:16:32 JenW -> sighs --
20:16:46 James Sigler -> night
20:16:48 PeggyG -> thanks all!
20:16:53 PeggyG -> good night
20:16:58 JohnS -> Have a nice week, everyone