This week we missed Jeff, but know he had a great time with the family! John, Dave, and Jen ran through the usual roundup of news and resources in education and technology.
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19:01:00 mrsdurff : yes cormier
19:01:20 mrsdurff : actually i heard someone else say that too
19:01:49 JenM : http://www.7-election.com/ 
19:02:01 DaveC : Does Dave need me to change my name?
19:02:13 dave : woohoo
19:02:18 DaveC : @Dave, do you need me to change my name?
19:02:27 dave : nope.
19:02:33 mrsdurff : i vote no
19:02:41 JohnS : Asus to phase out sub-10in Eee PCs, says CEO: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/10/31/asus_eee_focus_10in/ 
19:03:58 DaveC : not enough of a market for kids I guess. HS and College like the bigger screens because they game too.
19:04:44 mrsdurff : i would like a lightweight for conferences
19:04:47 Gary : May as well have an iPod touch
19:04:50 dave : http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/con_ed/mpcp/cis/etl.shtml 
19:05:09 speters : no!!!
19:05:17 speters : LOL
19:05:35 speters : that is hilarious
19:05:37 mrsdurff : shameless self promotion
19:05:46 speters : I was seriously considering it....
19:06:11 speters : can the instructors be bribed?
19:06:20 mrsdurff : with?
19:06:34 speters : uh..... Quebec beer?
19:06:42 mrsdurff : oh probably
19:06:52 DaveC : Yesterday Woot (http://woot.com ) sold 575 9" laptops for $289 in about 8 hours.
19:06:52 speters : PayPal
19:07:11 JenM : http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/Features/2008/oct08/10-28PDCOffice.mspx 
19:08:04 JohnS : CoWord: http://cooffice.ntu.edu.sg/coword/index.html 
19:08:50 mrsdurff : hi angela
19:09:17 angelamaiers : Hi Durff-how are you! Love your K-12 Presentation!
19:09:18 DaveC : Didn't OpenOffice just release v3 last week too? Or am I off a week.
19:09:21 dave : http://www.pontydysgu.org/2008/11/moocs-and-open-course-models/ 
19:10:30 JenM : http://www.aect.org/SecondLife/ 
19:10:35 mrsdurff : ty angela - it was awful - have you seen this year's by Betchaboy & the one by Couros? Those are wonderful!
19:11:25 JohnS : Phone company: Heavy Internet users to pay more: http://www.physorg.com/news144732027.html 
19:11:37 mrsdurff : schedule JenM?
19:12:15 JenM : @durff ... http://www.aect.org/SecondLife/web/AECT-SL_schedule.pdf 
19:12:21 mrsdurff : ty
19:12:37 Cathy E : 5 Gig is what I get with Verizon
19:12:51 Alvin Trusty : Less than 1% of users cause bottle necks. This is all greed from ISP's.
19:13:16 speters : In South Africa, schools are allowed 3 gigs per month...
19:13:31 speters : imagine a whole school limited to 3 gigs
19:13:37 dave : http://www.pcworld.com/article/152683/15_hot_new_technologies_that_will_... 
19:13:43 JohnS : Schools?! We do that in an hour.
19:13:47 DaveC : The 1% are the ones who will be affected.
19:14:21 JohnS : yes, Alvin. But there's a huge difference between 5 gb and 250 gb
19:14:25 Alvin Trusty : @DaveC - not if the limit is 5GB
19:14:53 Alvin Trusty : What gets me is that Time Warner can't tell me how much I'm using
19:15:10 Gary : Yes Spark!
19:15:19 speters : lol
19:15:25 JohnS : time warner can't even configure their switches properly -- been fighting with them for years.
19:15:49 mrsdurff : and that how long to figure out?
19:16:15 Gary : The point is to keep your hands warm at -40 C
19:16:58 Gary : Spark is great - listen to it every week.
19:17:03 mrsdurff : hi jeannine
19:17:04 JenM : Limited to wifi? Head to Starbucks (if you have an iPhone in the US) ... http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/internet/wifi.jsp 
19:17:12 jeannine : Hi Mrs. Durff
19:17:17 dave : http://www.cbc.ca/spark/ 
19:17:17 mrsdurff : Starbucks?
19:17:25 mrsdurff : don't mind if i do
19:17:59 JohnS : Oosah: http://www.oosah.com 
19:18:08 poulingail : got a link for SPARK?
19:18:50 dave : @poulingail see above
19:19:14 dave : http://mashable.com/2008/10/27/twitter-terror/ 
19:19:16 mrsdurff : hi matt!
19:19:34 matt montagne : Hey MrsDurff
19:19:37 poulingail : @dave thanks
19:19:59 JohnS : Spark: http://www.cbc.ca/spark/ 
19:20:34 mrsdurff : or a telephone call?
19:20:52 speters : which is why I never rant about my boss on twitter!
19:21:37 DaveC : A quick note on the Frontier release. They are talking GB (BYTES) most download speeds are Gb (bits). 4Mb/sec download speed (like many cable systems) would take 10,000 seconds to max out, that's roughly 166 hours or 6 days of continuous maxing out your download
19:21:48 JenM : Friends Twitter ... http://friendorfollow.com/ 
19:21:53 Gary : But the accent was French Canadian - a different language
19:22:13 dave : @gary my favourite part was that they had to tell her they were joking
19:22:14 speters : @Gary LOL
19:22:38 DaveC : Oops, I mean Mb for download speeds, not Gb -- I wish.
19:22:44 JohnS : 77% of Teachers Assign Internet-Required Homework:: http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6608496.html 
19:22:46 angelamaiers : I love this link! Fun and easy!
19:22:50 Gary : It was the accent. HS French would just not work.
19:23:19 mrsdurff : you broke it - doesn't work
19:23:25 matt montagne : jenm-did u drop in that twitter link??
19:24:01 dave : http://pcworld.pricegrabber.com/rating_getprodrev.php/product_id=6413075... 
19:24:06 mrsdurff : jen must have - it is broken
19:24:15 Gary : Some of the stats were a bit doubtful - survey of technololgy teachers
19:24:27 dave : http://schools-wikipedia.org/ 
19:25:06 matt montagne : link works, Jen...the chat room is just really slow for me 2nite
19:25:22 Cathy E : friend or follow - a real person petting a stuffed bunny ????
19:26:07 Gary : So wikipedia will be locked down and we will have to use this.
19:26:13 JenM : Academic Stuff ... http://www.advantageedu.com/blog/2008/10/100-free-college-rides-you-dont...  ... and ... http://www.academia.edu/ 
19:26:31 matt montagne : it works...just that the chat window performing slowly for me
19:27:24 JohnS : Games firms 'catching' non-gamers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7697898.stm 
19:27:54 poulingail : Awful lot require you be Nat'l Merit Scholar !!
19:27:57 JenM : @matt ... cool, thanks for th follow up ...
19:30:02 dave : http://www.sciencebuddies.org/ 
19:30:09 DaveC : ISPs end up keeping records to know who used an address and when. It is a pain.
19:30:43 speters : My son needs this site!!
19:30:50 Gary : Mostly for parents
19:31:05 speters : LOL - I'll show his father!
19:31:45 JenM : 35+ sites for Kids / Families ... http://mashable.com/2008/11/01/family-sites/ 
19:32:39 JohnS : Internet gets parents off homework hook: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081027/... 
19:32:40 mrsdurff : hi nedra
19:32:53 nedra : Hi!
19:34:39 dave : http://blogs.computerworld.com/review_of_final_openoffice_3_why_buy_micr... 
19:34:54 dave : http://www.openoffice.org/ 
19:35:12 speters : ew.... docx
19:35:15 DaveC : OH, I mentioned OOv3 when you were talking about the M$Office update. Didn't mean to imply you didn't talk about it
19:35:54 Gary : ........
19:35:55 Cathy E : What do you use John?
19:35:55 JenM : The Oprah Effect? Let's watch and see: http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2008/10/oprah-likely-to-kindle-big-interest... 
19:36:01 Alvin Trusty : I don't think OOO handles DOCX
19:36:06 JohnS : Office 2002.
19:36:10 matt montagne : looks like OO3 has native Mac App now
19:36:16 JohnS : Thanks, Alvin
19:36:20 mrsdurff : actually we're not paying attention
19:36:29 JohnS : Neither are we, Mrs. Durff.
19:36:45 DaveC : I thought OOO was supposed to work with docx, guess I have to relisten to what was actually being said.
19:36:51 Gary : At least it is not homeopathy!
19:37:05 angelamaiers : She even has a $50 coupon on her website!
19:37:08 Gary : or other new age drivel
19:37:15 matt montagne : The kindle is cool...great eBook reader...ink looks so natural
19:37:28 JohnS : AtomKeep: http://www.atomkeep.com/ 
19:38:02 matt montagne : our librariarian bought one last year...I read a book on it and it was gr8...actually has some potential as an assistive/adaptive technology tool
19:38:09 JohnS : DaFont: http://www.dafont.com/ 
19:38:49 mrsdurff : Who will win the election? Voice your opinion here http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?user_id=88116&blogger_id=189546 
19:38:49 dave : http://www.educationworld.com/a_lesson/lesson/lesson141.shtml 
19:38:58 matt montagne : wow...I can't spell in a chatroom!
19:39:02 dave : http://www.educationworld.com/a_lesson/TM/WS_techie_lesson.shtml 
19:39:20 mrsdurff : hi courosa
19:39:29 courosa : hey lisa
19:39:40 DaveC : OMG, our tech ed teacher must have read that!!!!
19:39:46 Gary : So it was a bit old.
19:39:49 angelamaiers : Wow-I can not beleive this is a lesson!
19:39:50 DaveC : He showed the students how to put every game in the startup folder!
19:40:43 courosa : they still do have computer class, sadly
19:40:46 mrsdurff : so you can drink coffee while kids work - what an idea
19:40:58 courosa : ENIAC!
19:41:09 JenM : Review site for online education: http://geteducated.com/ 
19:41:10 speters : I taught that class...
19:41:11 Gary : FORTRAN
19:41:35 courosa : "the first computer bug actually was a bug"
19:41:42 angelamaiers : they are still teaching that class at my kids school!
19:41:52 mrsdurff : i teach it
19:41:55 mrsdurff : sadly
19:42:25 speters : @courosa - I think we taught the same curriculum...
19:42:28 courosa : i still think pieces of that class are good, comp. history very valuable
19:42:37 courosa : @speters very likely. :-)
19:42:55 mrsdurff : comment on parisi
19:43:02 mrsdurff : 's kid http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?user_id=88116&blogger_id=189546 
19:43:05 Gary : I still have stacks of cards
19:43:14 angelamaiers : Great show guys-have a great week!
19:43:17 speters : @courosa - hey you missed hearing all the links you recommended
19:43:24 mrsdurff : happy 30th nephew
19:43:26 courosa : you sound like the woman that only gave candy to the mccain kids
19:43:51 DaveC : doh, gotta start skype
19:43:54 courosa : @speters ... I must have been on a delicious rampage this week
19:44:02 matt montagne : I'm downloading OO3 right now for Mac...
19:44:03 speters : I want to hear more about dave"s course wiht George on emerging technologies
19:44:15 Alvin Trusty : I looked on the web site... the forums talk about work-arounds
19:44:17 mrsdurff : you said it not i
19:44:21 DaveC : arg, crash.
19:44:21 courosa : i would have ... just no time
19:44:40 mrsdurff : dave c wants to skype in
19:44:45 Cathy E : tell me about the firefox plugin that you and drop you documents on
19:44:51 DaveC : @durff. tried, but it crashed
19:45:15 DaveC : I think that was my ringing a moment ago.
19:45:27 speters : Would google apps be an appropriate replacement for FirstClass
19:45:29 speters : ?
19:45:32 matt montagne : Me big fan of Google Apps for ed too...it is awesome...does anyone know if it works with RIM and/or iPhone??
19:45:43 matt montagne : @speters...YES, it would
19:45:51 DaveC : @Alvin, my point about the 5GB download is that I am a partner at an ISP and we've gone through those discussions quite a bit on whether we needed o do that or not.
19:46:01 matt montagne : especially if in tademe with a VLE like Moodle
19:46:13 matt montagne : BUT, many IT peeps don't believe in Google Apps for Ed
19:46:18 speters : I have to start a campaign at my school.... third institution with FirsClass and the most chaotic setup I have ever seen
19:46:42 DaveC : I agree it is lousy to have to consider doing it, but 5GB isn't bad.
19:46:43 mrsdurff : someone skype in and save the day
19:46:48 courosa : what happened with the google apps thing? something new?
19:47:18 speters : Google apps for ed is free, right?
19:47:26 matt montagne : @Sharonpete...totally agree...first class is wretched
19:47:30 Alvin Trusty : @dave - do you have an idea about how many people really abuse bandwidth with the number of people that would pay extra for going over 5 GB. It seems the ISP's are going to make a lot of money and not increase the bandwidth for anyone.
19:47:33 matt montagne : @sharon...yes, it is free
19:48:02 DaveC : Their option used to be to charge for the 90th percentile
19:48:07 DaveC : But that is GB not Mb
19:48:08 courosa : My ISP is local, and awesome
19:48:12 courosa : no extra charges
19:48:32 DaveC : That's me :)
19:48:56 speters : CSIS in PEI.... what a thought!
19:49:01 DaveC : Hey, I treid skyping in
19:49:09 DaveC : Got the voicemail
19:49:13 courosa : you could probably pick up all of the old 360 Networks dark fibre for about $100
19:49:45 matt montagne : I was talking to a group of teachers about Moodle and Firstclass the other day, and many teachers are convinced that Moodle is no different than Firstclass (we've been useing Firstclass for 10 years and we are piloting moodle right now)
19:49:57 courosa : too bad it hasn't been great for Palin's US geography
19:50:06 matt montagne : To me, Firstclass can't be compared to moodle as it isn't a VLE
19:50:09 speters : Matt is from Cali
19:50:15 matt montagne : I'm in Bay Area Dave
19:50:23 courosa : haha, good Canadians
19:50:27 mrsdurff : CA
19:50:31 DaveC : Sure, don't answer skype :)
19:50:37 courosa : would have loved to have heard the comment
19:50:47 Gary : Palin can see BC from her house?
19:50:51 Gary : Seal
19:50:54 courosa : yes
19:50:57 speters : Firstclass is a communication server, not an LMS
19:51:11 matt montagne : I'm living in Cali by way of Wisconsin...
19:51:16 speters : yes, very very funny
19:51:28 speters : oh yes
19:51:40 speters : Go obama
19:51:57 matt montagne : @speters..yep, but I'm running into teacher confusion over Firstclass conferencing and Moodle...it is really hard to get folks to move
beyone Firstclass...really, really hard
19:52:05 courosa : unless you see a stolen election ... then make room in your home Dave
19:52:09 Gary : I am proud to say my son can swear fluently in two languages - French immersion was not where he got those skills
19:52:25 speters : uh... the hockey rink?
19:52:30 mrsdurff : proud of that?
19:52:44 speters : that seems to be where many young anglophones pick up their best French
19:52:50 mrsdurff : blob?
19:53:00 Gary : No - short track speed skating
19:53:02 courosa : mailto:dave.cormier  ... add me.
19:53:05 mrsdurff : sounds like an alien
19:53:31 courosa : i didn't feel like actually emailing you
19:53:34 mrsdurff : really?
19:53:41 mrsdurff : cormier can
19:53:42 courosa : haha
19:53:47 DaveC : I just emailed
19:53:52 mrsdurff : just not schinker
19:54:11 Cathy E : Lost audio night all
19:54:12 matt montagne : BLOB aconym for ??
19:54:16 mrsdurff : i thought i was in it?
19:54:25 mrsdurff : so add me
19:54:32 courosa : @dave, if I email you, it will have to be the forward from the P2P Pyramid Scam.
19:54:50 mrsdurff : lucrative
19:54:55 dave : http://www.educationworld.com/a_lesson/TM/WS_techie_lesson.shtml 
19:55:05 JohnS : http://davecormier.com/edblog/2008/10/20/edtechtalk-managing-a-community... 
19:55:05 dave : http://davecormier.com/edblog/2008/10/20/edtechtalk-managing-a-community... 
19:55:16 matt montagne : john...u on the treadmill right now??
19:55:24 mrsdurff : darth vader
19:55:30 mrsdurff : he is here
19:55:39 matt montagne : sounds like he is working out :-)
19:55:45 JohnS : was walking around, turning computers back on.
19:55:50 mrsdurff : unlikey
19:55:53 DaveC : I emailed in the app thing a while ago! Never heard back :( Guess that's a hint...
19:56:30 courosa : you mean Tuesday?
19:56:45 mrsdurff : no filabusters?
19:56:49 mrsdurff : no fun
19:57:04 DaveC : hahaha
19:57:36 courosa : sounds kinda organized
19:58:06 courosa : like rhyzomatically organized
19:58:07 Gary : Will some day when I stop volunteering for other things
19:58:10 Gary : Kindness
19:58:19 Gary : For now.
19:58:51 DaveC : I'm someone!!!!
19:59:05 mrsdurff : of ccourse you are
19:59:17 courosa : got it!
19:59:24 speters : Dave has no identity
19:59:30 courosa : that is so not within your frame of venne.
19:59:53 courosa : i may go
19:59:55 Gary : Thanks again - time for supper.
19:59:57 courosa : cmon dave
20:00:18 sheila : We'd love to see the kids!
20:00:26 DaveC : sent you more contact info
20:00:28 drewmca : cheers.
20:00:30 courosa : thanks
20:00:32 DaveC : bye
20:00:34 speters : have a great week
20:00:39 sheila : Night!
20:00:43 mrsdurff : ciao!
20:00:47 Ann-NJ Tech Teacher : Thanks all - got my POs typed up and learned a bit.