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21st Century Learning #91
Dr. Jonathan Becker 
January 15, 2009
This week, Dr. Jonathan Becker joined us to discuss education research and technology integration. He is an assistant professor at the Educational Leadership Department at Virginia Commonwealth University. He teachs courses in school law and educational research methods.
You can also check out Jon's K-12 Online presentation entitled Facilitating Technology Integration: A Synthesis of the Research. 
2009-01-15 13:04:40 alex.ragone -> Hello folks.
2009-01-15 13:07:27 arvind -> hi ransotech, welcome
2009-01-15 13:07:34 arvind -> audio is on the right if you don't have it yet
2009-01-15 13:07:36 ransotech -> Hi - thanks
2009-01-15 13:08:27 arvind -> hi Linda, welcome
2009-01-15 13:08:57 arvind -> let us know if you have problems getting audio
2009-01-15 13:09:03 ransotech -> Sounds good
2009-01-15 13:09:03 Linda704 -> Hi! Is there different url for sound/ Had a problem last time.
2009-01-15 13:09:21 arvind -> there is a ustream link on the right which you can use, or you can use the EdTechTalk A stream. Either works!
2009-01-15 13:09:31 arvind -> Just press play in the ustream window
2009-01-15 13:09:40 arvind -> Hi Thomas, audio on UStream on the right, or EdTechTalk A
2009-01-15 13:10:50 Linda704 -> I can hear you now!
2009-01-15 13:10:55 arvind -> Jon Becker's K12 online conference presentation: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=305  Give it a listen later!
2009-01-15 13:11:26 arvind -> Jon's great blog is here: http://edinsanity.com/ 
2009-01-15 13:12:48 arvind -> they have a "unit of analysis problem"
2009-01-15 13:13:55 arvind -> hi jeannine, welcome. Audio on ustream or EdTechTalk A. Both on the right
2009-01-15 13:14:24 jeannine -> thanks
2009-01-15 13:15:04 Linda704 -> "nested"--like those Russian dolls.
2009-01-15 13:15:20 alex.ragone -> Yep, nested.
2009-01-15 13:15:57 Linda704 -> Is the student the smallest doll? or something w/in the doll?
2009-01-15 13:16:18 alex.ragone -> Depends on the school you work on.
2009-01-15 13:16:50 Linda704 -> So true. Sadly the students are too often forgotten.
2009-01-15 13:17:59 Linda704 -> @arvind are you at school today? working?
2009-01-15 13:18:20 arvind -> @Linda704, yup, broadcasting from the library. We're all at school today
2009-01-15 13:19:07 Linda704 -> I;m off due to wind chills; otherwise wouldn't be here.
2009-01-15 13:19:36 Linda704 -> @arvind do you have other teachers listening w/ you?
2009-01-15 13:20:24 arvind -> no, but ed techs at my school sometimes listen to the archives of our show at http://edtechtalk.com/21cl 
2009-01-15 13:20:53 Linda704 -> Teacher as camp counselor--I like the metaphor. Has more meaning than "guide on the side"
2009-01-15 13:21:01 jbecker -> http://www.voise.cps.k12.il.us/ 
2009-01-15 13:22:00 alex.ragone -> http://edinsanity.com/tag/schank/ 
2009-01-15 13:22:09 alex.ragone -> The posts that Jon is speaking about.
2009-01-15 13:22:38 arvind -> hi jramsden! welcome
2009-01-15 13:23:19 jramsden -> Howdy arvind!
2009-01-15 13:24:58 alex.ragone -> Hello MHutchinson!
2009-01-15 13:28:44 ransotech -> I think it is more about strenghts of learning styles - not that one student cannot learn a certain way,.
2009-01-15 13:29:22 jeannine -> The disruption is that students can get the learning what "they" want without public schools - the control over education is being disrupted.
2009-01-15 13:29:28 arvind -> one that feels natural to a student, for instance? We've all had kids who can listen to anything and completely get it, but then others who love to read and read and read their text before they "get it"
2009-01-15 13:29:45 ransotech -> The smartboard issue drives me crazy. That is no disruption at all
2009-01-15 13:29:52 arvind -> jeannine, great observation! yet another way of looking at what the disruption is
2009-01-15 13:30:18 arvind -> I loate SMART Boards sometimes. Particularly when they don't technically function properly, which seems to be daily!
2009-01-15 13:31:04 ransotech -> @arvind - sure... not working is always a problem, but they tend to do more to preserve the status quo rather than challenge it.
2009-01-15 13:31:30 arvind -> ransotech - teacher-driven, to the max. Except for our lower school teachers who bring students to the board all the time!
2009-01-15 13:31:58 alex.ragone -> Interesting -- sustained, coherent implementation.
2009-01-15 13:32:00 arvind -> hi JeffN - audio on the right with ustream or EdTechTalk A
2009-01-15 13:32:34 JeffN -> Got it thanks...
2009-01-15 13:33:11 jramsden -> The disruption will come when "we" (read schools) allow "them" (read students) to use "their" technology in the classroom. Tablets, SmartBoard, PPT's are not seen as "their" technology from the students P.O.V.
2009-01-15 13:33:21 arvind -> hi DeirdreB audio on EdTechTalk A or UStream on the right
2009-01-15 13:33:42 DeirdreB -> Hi all from Saskatchewan Canada
2009-01-15 13:34:03 ransotech -> @jramsden - absolutely
2009-01-15 13:34:05 alex.ragone -> Hello Deirdre -- Hope you're staying warm...
2009-01-15 13:34:22 jramsden -> Our schools all need Directors of Curricular Innovation. The tech specialist c
2009-01-15 13:34:25 DeirdreB -> -32C this AM
2009-01-15 13:34:34 ransotech -> Yes... the teachers are often ignored in all of these hardware adoptions.
2009-01-15 13:34:46 arvind -> been trying to get my educational technology department renamed to department of curricular innovation for years!
2009-01-15 13:34:48 jramsden -> The Directors of Curricular Innovation can be the R&D for the school.
2009-01-15 13:34:51 ransotech -> Innovation is more about human activity than hardware adoption
2009-01-15 13:35:00 Linda704 -> All the tech tools in the world won't make a difference in teaching w/o ongoing just in time support.
2009-01-15 13:35:06 alex.ragone -> First time I asked for input on hardware from a Tech Coordinator she was surprised.
2009-01-15 13:35:20 Linda704 -> First time something doesnt' work, teachers dismiss as not being possible.
2009-01-15 13:35:40 DeirdreB -> Divide between training of teachers and Tech specialists
2009-01-15 13:35:57 DeirdreB -> Need more Edtech who are teachers
2009-01-15 13:36:08 JeffN -> For better or worse...pitching tech stuff in educational contextx is usually about "sales."
2009-01-15 13:36:13 arvind -> all my edtech are teachers - we all teach 50%, work with teachers 50%
2009-01-15 13:36:52 arvind -> JeffN need to change culture to see best ways of supporting learning goals. Work together rather than sales pitching. Not easy, but we need to get there
2009-01-15 13:37:06 jeannine -> have to go...look forward to listening to the rest later
2009-01-15 13:37:21 ransotech -> @arvind - That sounds like a great way to go (50/50)
2009-01-15 13:37:49 alex.ragone -> Create a community around technology and education. A clarity of the role of technology integration.
2009-01-15 13:37:57 arvind -> hard to keep that model, as administrators can get uncomofortable seeing a schedule only half full. Need to really be clear about what they do during the non-scheduled times
2009-01-15 13:38:01 ransotech -> Sorry... have to go. Students calling. Thanks, all.
2009-01-15 13:38:07 arvind -> thanks for being here
2009-01-15 13:38:08 DeirdreB -> Also need examples of classroom teachers using technology
2009-01-15 13:38:12 jramsden -> @Linda704 True. But that is because schools don't allow folks (teachers and students) to fail. Not a great foundation for success. You must fail first before you can succeed.
2009-01-15 13:38:32 Linda704 -> When I was media (library & computers) we started as 60/40, then cut to 70/30.
2009-01-15 13:39:07 Linda704 -> @jramsden you are right. And teachers are the "worst" for that. We have to always be right and can't fail.
2009-01-15 13:39:45 Linda704 -> I'm currently a Literacy Coach, and do a lot of PD. Also my research interest in teachers and change.
2009-01-15 13:40:12 arvind -> I think my ideal job title would be, "Professional Devloper" :)
2009-01-15 13:40:35 Linda704 -> Isn't it amazing the depth of convo you can have w/ the right folks 140 characters at a time!
2009-01-15 13:40:56 arvind -> absolutely!
2009-01-15 13:41:05 arvind -> How are people dealing with budget cuts in their school? Have you felt it yet?
2009-01-15 13:41:12 DeirdreB -> I set up a site of international examples at deirdresactivelearning.pbwiki.com
2009-01-15 13:41:38 Linda704 -> Currently 1.6 mil in debt. Next Friday is super's "state of the district" speech.
2009-01-15 13:41:50 arvind -> we had state of the school yesterday
2009-01-15 13:42:03 arvind -> district is 1.6 million? or school?
2009-01-15 13:42:20 jramsden -> @arvind Not yet. That convo re: budget is next Tuesday.
2009-01-15 13:42:26 Linda704 -> My position is grant funded, so I'm OK. Anytime they can keep somone at my ed and exp out of the gen fund. it's a good thing.
2009-01-15 13:43:20 jramsden -> @arvind FYI @mattscully has a Dir. of Curr. Innovation on his desk for his H.O.S. right now. FYI...tried to DM on Twitter but did not work.
2009-01-15 13:45:39 Linda704 -> Isn't Jon talking about "disruption" in teacher/ed leadership prep?
2009-01-15 13:45:50 alex.ragone -> leadership prep.
2009-01-15 13:47:10 arvind -> thanks for being here eeryone
2009-01-15 13:47:24 arvind -> jramsden, so cool! need to talk to mattscully
2009-01-15 13:47:47 jramsden -> Thanks for DWYD
2009-01-15 13:49:39 jramsden -> @arvind @alex.ragone Are u2 @ NAIS in Chi?
2009-01-15 13:54:37 arvind -> not going to be at NAIS. They're not sending anyone from my school this year
2009-01-15 13:55:17 arvind -> gotta run. thanks for being here
2009-01-15 14:08:11 matt montagne -> hey alex...show today??