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21st Century Learning #97
Designing an open, web 2.0, personal learning network, online community building, project for teachers
March 12, 2009
Dave Cormier and Demetri Orlando join us to explore the concept of an open, web 2.0, personal learning network, online community building, project for teachers. Have suggestions or resources to discuss here? Please add them to this conversation by commenting on this post or emailing us at firstname.lastname@example.org. Please join us at 1:00pm EST on Thursday, March 19th at http://edtechtalk.com/live  where we'll continue the conversation.
2009-03-12 12:49:04 alex.ragone : Woo Hoo. Hey John.
2009-03-12 12:50:27 demetri : Hey Alex, how does this work, will you be skyping me?
2009-03-12 12:51:52 JohnS : Hi, Alex.
2009-03-12 12:57:34 dave : dudes.
2009-03-12 12:58:22 dave : gonna have to break out at 1:30 (or therebouts) your time... have a meeting with the director of communications and IT director over communications
2009-03-12 13:00:16 JohnS : face to face meeting, right?
2009-03-12 13:00:38 arvind : hi all
2009-03-12 13:00:47 arvind : red dave, how are you?
2009-03-12 13:01:23 JohnS : no elluminate session?
2009-03-12 13:01:26 arvind : hi brusniak, we're about to get started
2009-03-12 13:01:51 bkrusniak : Great
2009-03-12 13:02:06 alex.ragone : Hey Demetri -- you on skype?
2009-03-12 13:02:11 alex.ragone : can't get you theer.
2009-03-12 13:02:13 alex.ragone : there.
2009-03-12 13:02:15 alex.ragone : Hey Folks.
2009-03-12 13:02:15 demetri : yes. demetriorlando
2009-03-12 13:02:36 demetri : i see you as offline?
2009-03-12 13:03:16 arvind : hi david m
2009-03-12 13:03:19 arvind : hi alec
2009-03-12 13:03:19 alex.ragone : Hey Alec.
2009-03-12 13:03:25 VinnieVrotny : Hey Alec
2009-03-12 13:03:55 arvind : hi cindy, hi gnelson
2009-03-12 13:03:56 VinnieVrotny : Hey All
2009-03-12 13:04:04 gnelson : Hi
2009-03-12 13:04:22 arvind : hi cbell
2009-03-12 13:04:33 courosa : hey all
2009-03-12 13:04:34 cbell : hi arvind
2009-03-12 13:04:37 courosa : audio yet?
2009-03-12 13:04:43 arvind : just about
2009-03-12 13:04:47 courosa : k
2009-03-12 13:05:17 VinnieVrotny : we are working on getting audio up
2009-03-12 13:05:25 arvind : hi edwebb
2009-03-12 13:05:40 arvind : hi amy
2009-03-12 13:05:43 arvind : about to be live
2009-03-12 13:05:45 abowllan : HI!!!
2009-03-12 13:05:49 edwebb : Hello, edtechers
2009-03-12 13:05:52 arvind : oops, i think we are live
2009-03-12 13:05:57 abowllan : Hi, everyone!
2009-03-12 13:06:02 abowllan : You can start now ;)
2009-03-12 13:06:08 courosa : ok
2009-03-12 13:06:10 courosa : i can hear now
2009-03-12 13:06:17 arvind : yey, audio!
2009-03-12 13:06:22 arvind : hi kent
2009-03-12 13:06:24 abowllan : I can't
2009-03-12 13:06:29 dave : sounds like he's reading
2009-03-12 13:06:31 dave : lol
2009-03-12 13:06:31 arvind : audio on the right
2009-03-12 13:06:34 edwebb : I got nothing
2009-03-12 13:06:42 gnelson : A or B?
2009-03-12 13:06:45 gnelson : or does it matter?
2009-03-12 13:06:46 arvind : in ustream or edtechtalk aa
2009-03-12 13:06:51 courosa : dave seems a bit loud .. i mean louder than usual
2009-03-12 13:06:53 arvind : A\
2009-03-12 13:06:58 abowllan : I KNOW IT'S THERE -- I can't hear it :)
2009-03-12 13:07:00 courosa : yea Canada!
2009-03-12 13:07:10 arvind : try the ustream, amy :) press play
2009-03-12 13:07:19 arvind : hi cal
2009-03-12 13:07:30 Cal : Hi Arvind
2009-03-12 13:07:39 abowllan : NOW -- it's faint.
2009-03-12 13:07:50 arvind : where is everyone from?
2009-03-12 13:07:52 abowllan : better
2009-03-12 13:07:56 dave : abowllan (turn up the volume?)
2009-03-12 13:08:09 arvind : headphones are a must with these fujitsu's i think
2009-03-12 13:08:11 abowllan : :) @dave how did you know?
2009-03-12 13:08:19 courosa : let's drop the word course though ... OEE (open educational experience) sounds better
2009-03-12 13:08:43 arvind : hi Ianin, Bill, Kyteacher. Welcome!
2009-03-12 13:08:53 arvind : Audio is going on UStream or EdTechTalkA at the right
2009-03-12 13:08:55 David M : Houston, TX
2009-03-12 13:08:57 arvind : hi wgoodwin
2009-03-12 13:09:18 BillCamp : Hello. Still in a different meeting (hoping to leave soon), are you streaming audio now?
2009-03-12 13:09:27 IaninSheffield : Hi folks - it's Ian . . . and I'm in Sheffield, UK
2009-03-12 13:09:31 arvind : Bill, we are streaming
2009-03-12 13:09:50 arvind : hi Frances
2009-03-12 13:09:59 arvind : I had a student named Frances Bell. It's not you, is it?
2009-03-12 13:10:03 edwebb : I'm [i]from[/i] the UK, but I live & work in central PA, USA
2009-03-12 13:11:03 FrancesBell : Hi arvind - I am Frances Bell and me but not your student ;-) I work in Uni Salford UK
2009-03-12 13:11:05 arvind : hi deborah, audio is on ustream or edtechtalk a at the right
2009-03-12 13:11:14 arvind : ah great, welcome Frances
2009-03-12 13:11:16 kyteacher : Having trouble connecting from school computers.
2009-03-12 13:11:29 email@example.com  : Hello Arvind
2009-03-12 13:11:46 arvind : kyteacher: the EdTechTalk A stream might work better. YOu can play through itunes, windows media player, VLC
2009-03-12 13:11:55 arvind : hi Sagehorse, Jason
2009-03-12 13:12:26 Sagehorse : Hello all, I am an exp virtual professor
2009-03-12 13:12:29 arvind : hi Robin and tkaminski! Lots of people here
2009-03-12 13:12:34 courosa : I have to run, but ... I really want to be part of this ... please include me in the conversation in the future.
2009-03-12 13:12:39 arvind : what does a virtual professor mean? You teach online courses?
2009-03-12 13:12:46 arvind : Alec, will do!
2009-03-12 13:12:47 kyteacher : Thanks...I'll try.
2009-03-12 13:12:52 tkaminski : following this while sitting in another session
2009-03-12 13:13:05 Sagehorse : I have taught online courses with special web portal not blackboard
2009-03-12 13:13:11 arvind : tkaminski, multitasking, huh? I have to imagine that we're more interesting ;)
2009-03-12 13:13:36 tkaminski : The great thing about technology is I can attend 2 sessions at once!!!
2009-03-12 13:13:47 Sagehorse : what is the topic today?
2009-03-12 13:13:54 Robin : Hello everyone
2009-03-12 13:14:12 arvind : we're talking about forming a professional learning network at three of our schols, and connecting them together via online tools, like this forum
2009-03-12 13:14:13 cljennings : @Sagehorse What portal?
2009-03-12 13:14:19 courosa : weird that people at a REAL conference are listening to this online conference ... shows the self-determination of learning
2009-03-12 13:14:44 arvind : what Dave was just talking about, Alec, a bit of self-selection, right?
2009-03-12 13:14:52 Sagehorse : a portal is like a window into an internet world that is secured and unique
2009-03-12 13:15:00 tkaminski : Is it hard to use Ed Tech talk to broadcast or host a session?
2009-03-12 13:15:18 arvind : tkaminski, we are a regular show at EdTechTalk.com - same place, same time, every week
2009-03-12 13:15:20 Sagehorse : what three schools are you representing here at EdTech Talk?
2009-03-12 13:15:27 JohnS : Yammer's another pseudo-lock-downable alternative to Twitter http://www.yammer.com 
2009-03-12 13:15:29 arvind : You can learn to do webcasting at: http://webcastacademy.net 
2009-03-12 13:15:42 cljennings : @Sagehorse Right...but which one did you use?
2009-03-12 13:15:45 dave : @Sagehorse my day job is at upei
2009-03-12 13:15:49 arvind : Sagehorse: the three hosts of this show (me, Alex, Vinnie) are looking to do this at our schools
2009-03-12 13:16:04 Sagehorse : I worked for Univ of Maryland Univ College and they had their own portal and interfaces
2009-03-12 13:16:10 dave : he's talking about accreditation now :)
2009-03-12 13:16:16 Sagehorse : yes but what schools?
2009-03-12 13:16:21 cljennings : @Sagehorse...I see.
2009-03-12 13:16:40 arvind : our two guests today are Dave Cormier (godfather of EdTechTalk.com) and Demetri Orland (the brains behind http://isenet.ning.com  and grand overseer at http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com )
2009-03-12 13:16:41 Sagehorse : yes but I also used Breeze as an interface within their portal
2009-03-12 13:16:55 arvind : meant to say, Demetri Orlando
2009-03-12 13:17:19 Sagehorse : so you pick our brains to help you?
2009-03-12 13:17:37 kyteacher : Finally found an option that works. Hooray...I can hear you now.
2009-03-12 13:17:58 arvind : Sagehorse: Alex is at The Collegiate School in New York City, Vinnie is at North Shore Country Day school in Chicago, and I am at The Hewitt School in New York City
2009-03-12 13:18:26 Sagehorse : urban bias?
2009-03-12 13:18:40 abowllan : @Sagehorse hee hee
2009-03-12 13:18:47 Sagehorse : heehee
2009-03-12 13:19:11 abowllan : Where is everyone from? We have global representation.
2009-03-12 13:19:23 abowllan : NYC for moi.
2009-03-12 13:19:32 Sagehorse : godfather is little off putting
2009-03-12 13:19:34 tkaminski : Alberta
2009-03-12 13:19:40 firstname.lastname@example.org  : I'm from the coast of Maine.
2009-03-12 13:19:40 Sagehorse : rural florida
2009-03-12 13:19:52 kyteacher : Kentucky
2009-03-12 13:19:52 cljennings : South Carolina, USA
2009-03-12 13:19:55 arvind : Sagehorse: more like catalyst. That would have been a better word choice
2009-03-12 13:19:56 gnelson : northern california
2009-03-12 13:19:58 Robin : PA
2009-03-12 13:20:41 arvind : hi Susan!
2009-03-12 13:20:46 Sagehorse : okay!!
2009-03-12 13:20:55 Susan Carter Morgan : Hi Arvind:)
2009-03-12 13:20:58 Sagehorse : ;^)
2009-03-12 13:21:02 Robin : I have found the same thing
2009-03-12 13:21:16 JohnS : And yet, what is the completion rate for WCA? Even with something so nailed down, it's hard to get people to finish it.
2009-03-12 13:21:17 VinnieVrotny : getting people to pay for their education is better than giving it away for free
2009-03-12 13:21:29 dave : @johns pretty low i would guess
2009-03-12 13:21:47 FrancesBell : @VinnieVrotny Why is it better?
2009-03-12 13:21:49 edwebb : @Robin where in PA?
2009-03-12 13:22:01 Robin : Quakertown
2009-03-12 13:22:14 edwebb : I'm in Carlisle
2009-03-12 13:22:16 VinnieVrotny : because they have a sense of the value of the experience
2009-03-12 13:22:22 Sagehorse : so what is the purpose of this online chat again?
2009-03-12 13:22:24 Robin : @edwebb not too far away
2009-03-12 13:22:31 cljennings : @VinnieVronty Why is paying better?
2009-03-12 13:22:42 arvind : the online chat is a backchannel for the audio show
2009-03-12 13:22:48 Sagehorse : who can pay for anything in this economy???
2009-03-12 13:22:57 arvind : it's your room to do as you see fit - ask questions, talk about what we're talking about, or talk about something else
2009-03-12 13:23:12 VinnieVrotny : there is something real and tangeble which they can then sense for a value
2009-03-12 13:23:30 Sagehorse : okay
2009-03-12 13:23:42 VinnieVrotny : and yes, people can pay for what they want. Yes things are tough, but people are still paying for value
2009-03-12 13:23:47 cljennings : I thought CCK08 last fall was VERY real, tangible, added MUCH value for me, but I did not pay.
2009-03-12 13:24:09 Sagehorse : people don't have any money, c'mon 1 in 8 people are in foreclosure and losing their homes
2009-03-12 13:24:17 VinnieVrotny : but you are in the minority CCK08 was a great experience
2009-03-12 13:25:04 dave : @Vinnie how do you figure a 'minority'?
2009-03-12 13:25:07 FrancesBell : @djennings @VinnieVrotny there are different ways to pay e.g. time and money - not always in sync - at CCK08 I paid with time (not money) and my investment was repaid
2009-03-12 13:25:08 cljennings : @VinnieVronty Not sure what you mean...are you saying CCK08 was an exception?
2009-03-12 13:25:12 edwebb : CCK08 can be replicated, no?
2009-03-12 13:25:32 JohnS : @Sagehorse when people don't have a financial investment in something like this, they tend to sign up and then not participate. Having even a small fee generates some ownership -- people tend to care whether they complete it.
2009-03-12 13:25:36 Sagehorse : what is the purpose of the learning communities?
2009-03-12 13:25:42 Robin : yes then people understand before the join you what the expectations are
2009-03-12 13:25:46 VinnieVrotny : yes, CCKO8 was an exception. How many people finished it?
2009-03-12 13:26:07 cljennings : Why is finishing a measure of success/value?
2009-03-12 13:26:09 FrancesBell : Students could pay essay mills to get a certificate but no education
2009-03-12 13:26:22 Sagehorse : I can tell you that I have been involved with technology and learning for over 25 years and I am sick of paying for things, such a waste
2009-03-12 13:26:32 edwebb : @JohnS there are ways other than money to tie people in. Social capital more valuable - social incentives.
2009-03-12 13:26:32 FrancesBell : Education is repoduced not consumed
2009-03-12 13:26:37 cljennings : What if I got what I needed - that added REAL value for me - but at the same time did not COMPLETE it?
2009-03-12 13:26:40 JohnS : CCK08 was also a novelty. Lots of people signed up because they *could*, because they wanted to be a part of something revolutionary.
2009-03-12 13:26:55 Sagehorse : what was so revolutionary about it?
2009-03-12 13:27:01 Robin : also the building of your community is important too to get others to the point of feeling safe in their conversations
2009-03-12 13:27:17 Robin : I agree with Alex
2009-03-12 13:27:23 Sagehorse : yes, but so many people are unhappy with education right now that they will just not participate
2009-03-12 13:27:36 JohnS : Having 2000 people in a single class isn't revolutionary?
2009-03-12 13:27:43 FrancesBell : @djennings you completed your goal
2009-03-12 13:27:59 Sagehorse : can someone explain CCK08?
2009-03-12 13:28:18 FrancesBell : Connectivism and connective knwoledge 'free' online course
2009-03-12 13:28:19 JohnS : http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/connectivism/ 
2009-03-12 13:28:23 Sagehorse : education 2.0 ??
2009-03-12 13:28:31 Sagehorse : thank you
2009-03-12 13:28:46 FrancesBell : We need different modelsssss
2009-03-12 13:28:58 dave : http://education20.ning.com/ 
2009-03-12 13:29:19 dave : wait... wrong one it hink
2009-03-12 13:29:20 Sagehorse : there is alot about health and wellness, r u kidding?
2009-03-12 13:29:29 edwebb : @FrancesBell - attack of the gollumsssss there?
2009-03-12 13:29:54 FrancesBell : @edwebb - just stressing the plural ;)
2009-03-12 13:30:10 FrancesBell : @edwebb my precious
2009-03-12 13:30:42 Sagehorse : you cannot create communities from the outside
2009-03-12 13:31:01 arvind : http://www.starfishandspider.com/ 
2009-03-12 13:31:38 alex.ragone : Sagehouse -- yep -- you're right, but if folks don't know about the tools, they can't make their communities.
2009-03-12 13:31:42 edwebb : @Sagehorse - I'm not sure one can 'create' communities at all. But one can facilitate them or encourage them or nurture them. If you build it, they will come?
2009-03-12 13:31:44 dave : @sagehorse you seem to disagree with most of teh stuff we're saying... do you have a site where i can see your work?
2009-03-12 13:31:57 dave : @sagehorse difference is good.
2009-03-12 13:32:03 Sagehorse : well people will ask for the tools they need if they are asked and given choices of resources
2009-03-12 13:32:19 Sagehorse : I am disagreeing
2009-03-12 13:32:25 Sagehorse : but not totally
2009-03-12 13:32:45 arvind : Sagehorse: playing devil's advocate?
2009-03-12 13:32:45 Sagehorse : I am just going to logout
2009-03-12 13:32:49 dave : @sagehorse yeah. i noticed. was hoping to find a location where i could see your position more fully
2009-03-12 13:33:00 Sagehorse : well not today, sorry
2009-03-12 13:33:09 Sagehorse : I need to go and survive
2009-03-12 13:33:11 Sagehorse : later
2009-03-12 13:33:45 arvind : well, some space just opened up for others to converse. Anyone have any input? Any questions?
2009-03-12 13:34:22 wstites : 24/7 support is a huge issue... how to deal with it... also having the expectation for feedback
2009-03-12 13:34:36 arvind : Are you plugging your teachers into learning networks? Are they already plugged in?
2009-03-12 13:34:45 arvind : Bill, we were talking about MKA earlier. Demetri mentioned you all
2009-03-12 13:34:46 wstites : if you have someone post something to a commnunity page what is the expected turn-around for supprt/comment
2009-03-12 13:35:14 demetri : some are plugging in... it's slow
2009-03-12 13:35:17 Robin : @arvind great book read it a few months ago
2009-03-12 13:35:19 wstites : We did a lot with the Ning site for a faculty development day
2009-03-12 13:35:26 JohnS : But the key, too, Dave, is that you *don't* do that all the time.
2009-03-12 13:35:28 arvind : Robin, I love the catalyst role in there
2009-03-12 13:35:31 JohnS : You can wear out your network.
2009-03-12 13:35:34 cljennings : Am just having to show my folks here small pieces at a time. The "whole" of web 2.0 (whatever that is) is just too overwhelming for them.
2009-03-12 13:36:01 kyteacher : I agree with the importance of connections & how learning communities make them possible for the teacher...and hopefully the students at some point
2009-03-12 13:36:05 demetri : Nancy White on Slow Community: http://www.websocialarchitecture.com/community/2008/07/nancy-white-on.html 
2009-03-12 13:36:05 arvind : cljennings, I think it snowballs once you show them an intro
2009-03-12 13:36:17 cljennings : Like letting them see small snippets of what I learn from Twitter particiption and why they might want to try it out.
2009-03-12 13:36:18 Robin : @arvind yes it was very good
2009-03-12 13:36:32 alex.ragone : Dave's piece: http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/03/10/the-first-annual-lee-baber-jamb... 
2009-03-12 13:36:39 Robin : we are starting to introduce our teachers to networks, communities
2009-03-12 13:36:45 cljennings : Tried Ning...now have orphan "communities" they don't come back to. Not sure what "hook" they need to support their own sites.
2009-03-12 13:37:04 BillCamp : @demetri Hi from a couple of folks (who were in the meeting I just left) from your days at Dwight-Englewood.
2009-03-12 13:37:07 Chris : We're starting with Delicious bookmarks and twitter.
2009-03-12 13:37:18 Susan Carter Morgan : Sorry--somewhat distracted here w/students...but we are doing this one by one. After spending years trying to force the issue of "shift", we are doing it one person at a time. And it's working. The ning community for teachers to discuss at the building level is one way.
2009-03-12 13:37:54 arvind : I think it's important for people to see how we learn so much from our own networks. Much learning by example to be done
2009-03-12 13:38:02 wstites : Managing all these tools is a interesting exercise
2009-03-12 13:38:03 gnelson : demonstrating technology in context with learning
2009-03-12 13:38:04 Susan Carter Morgan : Our wordpress mu has taken off, too. One blog at a time:)
2009-03-12 13:38:07 wstites : what tool for what purpose
2009-03-12 13:38:09 Robin : Working with a few teachers at a time, once they understand and see value they then are willing to begin having conversations with others
2009-03-12 13:38:15 arvind : Chris, are you using the "network" parts of delicious? Or just the bookmark side?
2009-03-12 13:38:17 demetri : Yeah, I think we need examples... concrete... video stories
2009-03-12 13:38:19 FrancesBell : I think that twitter (used cleverly) could be a good entry tool - simple and powerful with identity
2009-03-12 13:38:47 wstites : Twitter is something that it takes people time to get... iut's about the tool you use in twitter too
2009-03-12 13:38:51 Chris : we're just getting into network bookmarks as more of us get in
2009-03-12 13:38:51 Susan Carter Morgan : I like Seth's word: Tribe
2009-03-12 13:38:53 arvind : Frances, Twitter seems to take a longer time for people (in my experience). They feel obligated to write more than they need to
2009-03-12 13:38:58 gnelson : I've seen most adoption occur through grass roots efforts
2009-03-12 13:38:59 kyteacher : Also working on the one teacher at a time model. Host monthly Tech Forums afterschool and trying to create a buzz
2009-03-12 13:39:06 FrancesBell : Twitter could let people start with dialogue and bring in links to resources like delicious
2009-03-12 13:39:12 DaveC : The issue I keep running into is that people treat a community as a support center and only participate when they have a question. They don't see it as a give-and-take collaborative.
2009-03-12 13:39:15 arvind : Frances, good point
2009-03-12 13:39:16 edwebb : I think Diigo has enormous (and quickly apparent) potential - got my students turned on to it relatively quickly
2009-03-12 13:39:22 Susan Carter Morgan : @kyteacher Takes more time, but then they have ownership
2009-03-12 13:39:23 wstites : TweetDeck has opened Twitter up to me more in a larger way then before... and I was into twitter before
2009-03-12 13:39:34 arvind : DaveC, it starts with help only, then you learn to give back
2009-03-12 13:39:36 demetri : yeah. go diigo!
2009-03-12 13:39:37 dave : gotta run... sorry dudes.
2009-03-12 13:39:41 Susan Carter Morgan : @wstites Same here
2009-03-12 13:39:46 kyteacher : @Susan carter Morgan I agree. We're starting to make progress.
2009-03-12 13:39:48 cljennings : Love Jen Jones' "viral professional development" as an approach...see her blog injenuity.com
2009-03-12 13:39:54 BillCamp : At lunch an couple of hours ago I was asked by a group of teachers, what is Twitter? With the few minutes I had (and nothing to demonstrate) in front of me, most of them had difficulty seeing the value.
2009-03-12 13:40:11 gnelson : @DaveC could that be because many participants are not comfortable speaking their mind?
2009-03-12 13:40:12 arvind : Bill, time to put Twitter on your phone! :)
2009-03-12 13:40:16 wstites : @BillCamp ... that is the issue we are dealing with
2009-03-12 13:40:17 dave : sorry. that was me
2009-03-12 13:40:22 dave : calls coming in gotta run
2009-03-12 13:40:22 BillCamp : @arvind No data plan.
2009-03-12 13:40:28 arvind : no worries, Dave
2009-03-12 13:40:30 arvind : thanks for being here
2009-03-12 13:40:31 Chris : I demonstrate twitter value by distributing links I get from people I follow.
2009-03-12 13:40:34 alex.ragone : Thanks dave.
2009-03-12 13:40:36 wstites : I have twitter on my iPhine and love it
2009-03-12 13:40:40 Susan Carter Morgan : @BillCamp yes...until they start getting their own responses to questions and comments, they don't
2009-03-12 13:40:43 FrancesBell : Twitter is mainstream and may soon be top http://blog.compete.com/2009/02/09/facebook-myspace-twitter-social-network/ 
2009-03-12 13:40:50 cljennings : @arvind Yes: learn by example - SHOW them!
2009-03-12 13:41:04 DaveC : @arvind. True, it starts as a takeout window only. But at some point you need to get people to go into the restaurant, not just a driveby.
2009-03-12 13:41:10 Robin : start small and build
2009-03-12 13:41:16 BillCamp : I've only started getting much value from twitter, and my personal success is still so-so sometimes. I'm probably at less than 50% on getting questions answerd when I ask.
2009-03-12 13:41:35 wstites : Twitter has become my #1 professional development tool
2009-03-12 13:41:42 alex.ragone : Great chat today.
2009-03-12 13:41:45 BillCamp : I do see the potential, and I think I'm starting to turn the curve it getting more out of it.
2009-03-12 13:41:50 Chris : @wstites mine, too.
2009-03-12 13:41:51 alex.ragone : Can't wait to go back and read it.
2009-03-12 13:41:57 arvind : Bill, mine too, Twitter is pushing my learning so hard that I can't keep up. And I love that
2009-03-12 13:42:05 kyteacher : @wsites Twitter is definitely my #1. Love learning something new everyday.
2009-03-12 13:42:09 Susan Carter Morgan : @billcamp I started RT my teachers' tweets so they would go to larger audience ..it helped
2009-03-12 13:42:10 wstites : Twitter... having a group to folow and being able to search is the biggest piece
2009-03-12 13:42:15 cljennings : @wstites Yes! Me too...Twitter is an amazing connection with my professional "world"
2009-03-12 13:42:22 BillCamp : Now if twitter is embraced by an already existing community and they all join at once, I can see it having value to teachers sooner.
2009-03-12 13:42:32 BillCamp : After they get it from that, they can expand their network out more.
2009-03-12 13:42:45 Robin : great conversation today thank you all see you soon
2009-03-12 13:42:53 kyteacher : Thanks.
2009-03-12 13:43:00 wstites : I think that if teacher could learn to use twitter in many of the ways we are talking about the amount of sharing that could happen would be incredible
2009-03-12 13:43:31 BillCamp : I've been thinking about trying to get our new teachers together in a group using a tool (like Twitter or something else) at the beginning of the year.
2009-03-12 13:43:34 wstites : it's not a single site to log into... not yoursite.com totally social and truer networking
2009-03-12 13:44:07 BillCamp : It could be initially sold as a way to get technology support from others and the tech folks, but then it could expand as they get used to it.
2009-03-12 13:44:23 DaveC : We have a lot of teachers on facebook with their friends/families. I wonder if I could sway them to see twitter as something for professional networks as opposed to facebook that they're using for personal networking... Not sure it would work, but might be an idea...
2009-03-12 13:44:52 BillCamp : Thanks for the stream and sorry I joined so late.
2009-03-12 13:45:11 FrancesBell : @DaveC have you seen twitterforteachers at wetpaint?
2009-03-12 13:45:13 gnelson : What's the book?
2009-03-12 13:45:13 Chris : teaching teacher to use these tools connects them to the today's world. http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/09/internet-innovations-hive-technology-br... 
2009-03-12 13:45:24 VinnieVrotny : Spider and the Starfish
2009-03-12 13:45:26 gnelson : ah
2009-03-12 13:45:26 wstites : Get an iPod Touch... pod cast and Tweet about it
2009-03-12 13:45:32 Susan Carter Morgan : Thanks guys
2009-03-12 13:45:32 DaveC : @Frances, no I haven't.
2009-03-12 13:45:34 kyteacher : Also www.twitter4teachers.pbwiki.com 
2009-03-12 13:45:43 cljennings : Thanks all! Awesome!
2009-03-12 13:46:15 JohnS : Thanks guys. Have a good week. Thanks for tweeting this.
2009-03-12 13:46:17 IaninSheffield : Thanks for letting me listen in folks
2009-03-12 13:46:22 edwebb : http://twitterforteachers.wetpaint.com/ 
2009-03-12 13:46:22 arvind : On Twitter please find us: arvind alexragone vvrotny
2009-03-12 13:46:39 Cal : Thanks!
2009-03-12 13:46:47 BillCamp : @arvind I think the cohort idea is a good one.
2009-03-12 13:46:55 arvind : it feels natural, Bill
2009-03-12 13:47:17 DaveC : It could make a nice voicethread...
2009-03-12 13:47:29 BillCamp : Great, school's on spring break, but I'll be here.
2009-03-12 13:47:34 BillCamp : Thanks guys!
2009-03-12 13:47:57 arvind : we start spring break tomorrow, and next thurs for admins. i'll be here anyways :)
2009-03-12 13:48:00 arvind : thanks all
2009-03-12 13:48:02 DaveC : I only caught the last 15 minutes or so -- good show from what I heard.
2009-03-12 13:49:09 arvind : DaveC, we're have the audio up here soon: http://edtechtalk.com/21cl 
2009-03-12 13:49:18 DaveC : Thanks.
2009-03-12 13:49:20 arvind : see you all soon
2009-03-12 13:49:24 arvind : till next time
2009-03-12 13:49:40 DaveC : Hey, I just noticed that the ETT login text says: If you can't get an 'invalid username' message, try a different username.
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