An episode without Jen, but with extra snips and snails and geeky netbook tales.
- Length: 42:14 minutes (19.33 MB)
- Format: MP3 Mono 44kHz 64Kbps (CBR)
18:46:24 minhaaj -> Ah its Oovoo today.
18:46:30 minhaaj -> used it quite sometime ago
18:47:10 gary -> Understood - I think.
18:49:07 minhaaj -> whys daves voice a little distorted?
18:49:09 minhaaj -> is he on phone?
18:49:47 minhaaj -> get a better mic
18:49:49 minhaaj -> :)
18:51:30 minhaaj -> Ready for the WIAOC Jeff. Lotsa work
18:51:38 minhaaj -> but you indefatigable.
18:52:35 minhaaj -> 18 here, 17th yours.
18:53:20 gary -> Dave be?
18:54:07 minhaaj -> 80%, its a netbook?
18:54:12 minhaaj -> oh isn't it Ace Aspire
18:54:16 minhaaj -> Dave bought a new one right?
18:55:25 sheila -> I had a bad day with skype today during Conversations. Dropped me about 6 or 7 times.
18:55:37 minhaaj -> it was rain IMO Sheila.
18:55:43 minhaaj -> Hey Peggy. Again.
18:55:52 sheila -> :)
18:56:09 PeggyG -> Hi Minhaaj
18:56:23 PeggyG -> Hi all
18:56:58 Alvin Trusty -> Use Tree tab
18:57:04 minhaaj -> i have no idea how do you get this red icon with your name in chatbox. is it when you login with the master password or something?
18:57:14 sheila -> Ask Peggy about the 27 tabs!
18:57:34 JohnS -> @alvin on a 9" screen?
18:57:39 sheila -> @Minhaaj - yes, it's a special account
18:57:43 PeggyG -> tooo funny!! yes I have some experience with that!
18:57:54 minhaaj -> ahh cool.
18:58:40 Riptide -> me too I can use a beer
18:58:41 minhaaj -> i would like a netbook since i keep moving, but i love the robustness of my Dell. I hear it doesnt work as good as this one does. but again its a netbook.
18:58:43 PeggyG -> Think I'm listening to the geeks of the week :-)
18:59:22 JL -> these guys are geeks every week :)
18:59:34 minhaaj -> You better be at Open Ed Dave. Sounds like fun with Wiley and Downes together on their.
18:59:37 PeggyG -> I know--why do you think I keep coming back :-)
19:00:00 minhaaj -> It would be published in the form of book after it
19:00:06 minhaaj -> yes its boring and useless
19:00:08 minhaaj -> i have!
19:00:25 minhaaj -> lol
19:00:35 PeggyG -> how do you get such clear audio for this show? need tutorials for some of the other ETT shows.
19:00:48 minhaaj -> Unlike TV you can't change the channel in a conference
19:00:55 minhaaj -> you're stuck with them :)
19:00:57 minhaaj -> Hey matt
19:01:13 matt montagne -> hey there minhaaj!
19:01:21 PeggyG -> yes-no background hiss and hum :-)
19:02:02 Cathy E -> I had to turn off UStream
19:02:08 Cathy E -> terrible weather here
19:02:21 PeggyG -> how are you listening Cathy E?
19:02:30 Cathy E -> Listening via Media Player - sounds great
19:03:16 JohnS -> 250 watts? Wimp.
19:03:39 dave -> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Acer-Aspire-netbook,review-1131.html 
19:03:49 matt montagne -> all right...netbook hour on ETT!!!
19:03:55 matt montagne -> I'm a big fan of the aspire one
19:04:08 matt montagne -> we evaluated the 9" and really liked it
19:04:16 minhaaj -> Asus EEEPC is close.
19:04:37 JohnS -> I've had a lot of trouble with the Atheros wifi card in the eeepc though
19:04:38 matt montagne -> Asus is nice too minjhaaj, but has a really unfortunate right shift key
19:04:48 minhaaj -> how do you install windows if you mess up yours without a super drive again?
19:04:50 JohnS -> And performance in Windows is really bad in the eee
19:05:00 matt montagne -> but, you can hook that thing up to an external display and you r good to go
19:05:10 minhaaj -> wouldn't know matt. lets take your word on it but it got real bad reviews
19:05:29 matt montagne -> I hooked up our HP Mini 10" to a 24" display and it works great
19:06:04 Cathy E -> I love my netbook
19:06:05 matt montagne -> @minhaaj...I can get used to any keyboard, but the asus has this really tiny right shift key in a weird location
19:06:11 JL -> http://content.dell.com/us/en/home/della.aspx 
19:06:16 minhaaj -> gig of a ram and 1.6 mhz does most things if you don't start gaming on it
19:06:43 minhaaj -> smaller for even your pinky matt?
19:06:50 minhaaj -> you must've real big bones :)
19:07:06 matt montagne -> @minhaaj :-)
19:07:08 JL -> http://community.elgg.org/ 
19:07:15 gary -> Mini 10 Promise Pink
19:07:20 Cathy E -> Go Dell
19:07:40 PeggyG -> we'll give you a woman's perspective next week after we get a chance to review it :-)
19:07:55 JohnS -> WordCamp Columbus: http://wordcampcolumbus.com/  and WordCamp Columbus - Mixed Review: http://www.mikemcbrideonline.com/2009/05/wordcamp-columbus-mixed-review.... 
19:07:59 minhaaj -> hehe. turn it back on Jeff Peggy.
19:09:28 Alvin Trusty -> I was surprised by the number of things people were using WP to do. Not just blogs.
19:09:37 dave -> http://www.linux-netbook.com/tags/netbook-comparison 
19:09:59 PeggyG -> Very intriguing comment Alvin!
19:10:05 dave -> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/ 
19:10:17 dave -> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html 
19:11:01 Cathy E -> conferences are a good thing
19:11:21 Alvin Trusty -> What Linux apps do you need to run?
19:11:44 minhaaj -> theres a whole range out there. OO.org for sure
19:12:03 minhaaj -> you could use 'damn small linux' and 'puppy linux'
19:12:09 minhaaj -> you could run it off of usb too
19:13:09 minhaaj -> and then make a ghost to make other people's life easier who are using your model
19:13:10 minhaaj -> :)
19:13:29 matt montagne -> netbooks are looking more like laptops and laptops are looking more like netbooks
19:13:33 gary -> So is Dave still going to buy a Apple netbook if it comes out?
19:14:16 minhaaj -> only thing keeping me away from a netbook is the perceived performance concerns. dvd drive is one intimidating factor
19:14:20 minhaaj -> :)
19:15:25 JL -> http://www.usnowfilm.com/  http://vimeo.com/4489849 
19:15:56 JL -> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/World-Record-Attempt-in-Paris 
19:16:17 sheila -> No songs repeated
19:16:25 JohnS -> WordPress.tv: http://wordpress.tv/ 
19:16:27 minhaaj -> and no rest ?
19:16:43 sheila -> 15 minutes every 3 hours
19:16:54 minhaaj -> doesn't count towards a record then heh
19:17:10 JohnS -> WordCast Podcast: http://wordcastpodcast.com/ 
19:17:22 JohnS -> WordPress Weekly Podcast: http://www.wptavern.com/category/wordpress-weekly 
19:17:35 minhaaj -> I think blogspot pawns wp. atleast for the free version
19:18:04 dave -> http://blip.fm/home 
19:18:28 Alvin Trusty -> @minhaaj Can I put blogspot on my server?
19:19:12 minhaaj -> nope because there is no paid version and you don't need it because you can change themes without having to put it on server
19:19:26 minhaaj -> can't do it with free wp blog.
19:19:45 lldenmark -> Has anyone used twitter to take class attendance?
19:19:55 minhaaj -> gotta put it on your webhost, having one being a prerequisite, is a prob.
19:20:16 Riptide -> prepare for #musicmonday on Twitter
19:21:18 kcaise -> apparently less after hearing that playlist
19:21:21 JL -> http://www.freshbrain.org/ 
19:21:35 dave -> @kcaise it does kinda situate me doesn't it :)
19:21:53 JL -> http://www.genyes.com/ 
19:22:15 JohnS -> Hacking Education: http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2008/11/hacking-educati.html 
19:22:26 kcaise -> lol @dave
19:22:32 matt montagne -> Isn't Gen Yes Sylvia Martinez's organization??
19:22:47 kcaise -> yes it is matt
19:22:49 minhaaj -> Jenn is online. guess you should get her Jeff
19:22:54 PeggyG -> yes gor Gen Yes-Sylvia
19:23:11 kcaise -> fresh brain is having a summer java program to learn to program java
19:23:36 matt montagne -> grades, academic departments, age groupings of students, standardized test scores, etc...all barriers to new ways of learning
19:23:45 gary -> But do they stay teachers?
19:24:03 kcaise -> good point @gary
19:24:14 matt montagne -> the one room school house had it right in many ways
19:24:24 gary -> Often they get other options because of their skill.
19:24:25 dave -> http://mini-itx.com/ 
19:25:49 dave -> http://mini-itx.com/2009/05/12/zotac-ion-itx-a-motherboard-review 
19:26:13 minhaaj -> sort of hyperthreaded dual core
19:26:33 minhaaj -> but with Intel Atom mb
19:27:00 minhaaj -> dunno if it beats pure intel
19:27:08 minhaaj -> gotta be a performance test.
19:27:16 minhaaj -> it'd be in netbooks most prolly.
19:27:24 minhaaj -> bcoz they are the ones using Atoms mostly.
19:27:46 gary -> Dave went off to geekville!
19:27:56 JL -> http://www.ensode.net/pdf-crack.jsf 
19:28:04 gary -> Should we talk Fortran?
19:28:19 JL -> http://voipcallrecording.com/ 
19:28:52 minhaaj -> did anyone try Pamela for Skype?
19:29:09 JL -> http://indispensibletools.pbworks.com/ 
19:29:13 minhaaj -> didn't work for me
19:29:38 JohnS -> Fantastic Contraption: http://fantasticcontraption.com/index.php 
19:29:43 PeggyG -> Call Recorder works great on a Mac-cheap-maybe $20.
19:29:59 Riptide -> I heart fantastic contraption
19:30:06 PeggyG -> Drew's list is very helpful
19:30:22 JohnS -> Social Studies Central: http://www.socialstudiescentral.com/ 
19:31:04 JL -> list of skype recorders: http://www.webcastacademy.net/book/recording-both-ends-telephony-call 
19:31:04 dave -> http://www05.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+23,+1974 
19:31:28 minhaaj -> oh come on wolframalpha
19:31:34 minhaaj -> fiasco :)
19:31:59 gary -> Dave is so young!
19:32:03 Alvin Trusty -> the video is cool
19:32:05 minhaaj -> traffic is killing it. or atleast the review tells us :)
19:32:50 PeggyG -> Very interesting data available through WolframAlpha just for students to practice analyzing data
19:32:52 Riptide -> and you trust Google?
19:33:04 minhaaj -> you read my mind there Riptide
19:33:09 matt montagne -> ahh, the importance of information triangulation
19:33:14 JohnS -> no, but Google gives me links to other resources, and I can tell where that data is coming from.
19:33:14 minhaaj -> its just out there. Their way or the highway :)
19:33:24 JohnS -> WA is giving info without the context
19:33:25 PeggyG -> it can be a great impetus to validate the information
19:33:47 Riptide -> I put ion this link http://smarterware.org/1538/fun-with-computations-at-wolframalpha 
19:34:03 Riptide -> *in
19:34:07 matt montagne -> love the University of Wisconsin shout out!! Go Bucky!!!
19:34:12 minhaaj -> uni of wisconsin?
19:34:18 minhaaj -> is there a seach engine with them?
19:34:24 Alvin Trusty -> We have to see how people use it.
19:34:35 JL -> http://kindersay.com/ 
19:34:36 Alvin Trusty -> Alta Vista
19:34:40 Riptide -> comparing it to google is WRONG
19:35:00 gary -> Now I know why so many friends had my first name: http://www05.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Gary+name 
19:35:02 JohnS -> Facebook Foils Canadian Lawsuits: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090510.wfacebooktri... 
19:35:05 dave -> @Riptide you almost seem like you have an opinion on this...
19:35:08 minhaaj -> lol @ talking to me
19:35:08 matt montagne -> hey , that is really cool!
19:35:15 dave -> i compare it to google because that's how it's going to be thought of
19:35:57 Riptide -> @Dave yes I thought it was put against Google too but wolfram is different.
19:36:29 gary -> Yes the comments!
19:36:30 dave -> @riptide but people wont see it that way
19:36:31 matt montagne -> at some point, some company will knock google off its throne...while google search is fantastic, I still think there is a great deal of room for innovation...
19:37:16 Riptide -> but Wolfram is a different tool.
19:37:45 minhaaj -> gotta jet . 5 in the morning. bye all. great show.
19:37:46 dave -> http://fit-pc2.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page 
19:37:48 PeggyG -> do any laptops have battery life? what's the best?
19:38:40 JL -> sleep well Minhaaj
19:38:49 matt montagne -> nite minhaaj
19:38:50 JL -> or enjoy the day
19:38:56 matt montagne -> good to catch up with you minhaaj
19:39:42 JL -> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/3820211/Does-Googles-Recent... 
19:40:03 matt montagne -> Turning your netbook into a desktop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mjmonty/3350143436/ 
19:40:33 matt montagne -> I've posted that photo here before, so sorry bout that...but it just shows how you can dock your netbook with a larger display, full sized keyboard, and nice mouse
19:41:17 JohnS -> One Million Monkeys Typing: http://www.1000000monkeys.com/ 
19:41:23 kcaise -> wasn't it mentioned in the newsletter too Jeff?
19:41:27 gary -> It feels great to be neglected.
19:41:36 JL -> indeed, our fine newsletter
19:41:44 kcaise -> absolutely
19:41:44 PeggyG -> everybody should join the fan page :-) we put it in the ETT newsletter this week
19:42:01 matt montagne -> I've really enjoyed the newletter...kudos to the newsletter elves
19:42:36 Riptide -> http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/43451  Twitter search results when you search google Greasemonkey script
19:42:38 PeggyG -> thanks Matt!
19:42:49 JohnS -> Stupeflix: http://www.stupeflix.com/ 
19:43:29 dave -> http://eeepc.net/9-cell-battery-for-acer-aspire-one/ 
19:44:20 matt montagne -> wow, that must last all day! The six cell batteries are impressive in that they give you 5-6 hours...
19:44:47 kcaise -> must be an amazing newsletter team!
19:45:04 PeggyG -> I'm smiling Kim :-)
19:45:16 kcaise -> well deserved @peggy
19:45:42 PeggyG -> can't wait for the Convergence unconference! going to be fantastic!
19:45:57 gary -> Dave URL?
19:46:21 kcaise -> where are you presenting again dave?
19:46:23 PeggyG -> we'll be there for you :-)
19:46:31 matt montagne -> we'll be there, but... ;-)
19:46:35 Riptide -> Thanks everyone! :D
19:46:42 kcaise -> my thoughts exactly @matt, lol
19:46:56 PeggyG -> thanks everyone
19:47:04 gary -> @ dave: and remind us of the time
19:47:05 matt montagne -> sell out!
19:47:19 JohnS -> noon eastern on Sunday
19:47:45 JL -> http://wiaoc.org/ 
19:47:59 sheila -> Thanks all!
19:48:05 gary -> @JohnS - thanks
19:48:16 PeggyG -> http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/schedule 
19:48:40 JL -> http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/DaveCormier 
19:48:55 PeggyG -> the keynote speakers are truly amazing!!!
19:49:00 dave -> http://wiaoc09.pbworks.com/DaveCormier 
19:49:10 matt montagne -> name change
19:49:13 kcaise -> pbwiki is now pbworks
19:49:17 matt montagne -> PBWiki changed their name
19:49:23 matt montagne -> about 4 weeks ago I believe
19:49:31 PeggyG -> new name for pbworks
19:49:46 matt montagne -> a take off on MS Works or somethign I'm guessing...
19:49:56 matt montagne -> perhaps PBWiki seemed to geeky or something
19:50:12 dave -> http://davecormier.com/edblog/2009/05/09/wiaoc-you-cant-collaborate-alon... 
19:50:22 kcaise -> i think their theory is they have proven the wiki works and is as easy to use as peanut butter and jelly
19:50:29 matt montagne -> very cool Dave! Definitely out of the box
19:50:40 matt montagne -> that is my hypothesis JS
19:51:22 kcaise -> this group fight and argue over something?
19:51:25 kcaise -> no way
19:51:25 matt montagne -> very cool Dave!
19:53:34 PeggyG -> sounds like a challenge we can't resist :-)
19:53:46 gary -> @dave: Remind us on Twitter.
19:55:47 matt montagne -> talk to Vance Stevens...that guy is the master at bringing in folks without knowing much about how the audio quality
19:55:49 dave -> http://cribchronicles.org 
19:55:55 dave -> http://cribchronicles.com 
19:56:09 Riptide -> Happy Birthday Mr. Shinker
19:56:16 gary -> Victoria Day - the Canadian spring holiday to spend time in the garden or camping and drinking beer.
19:58:21 PeggyG -> Hi Cheri T-how's your research coming along?
19:58:44 Cheri T -> Hi Peggy - I'm going to send out the survey as soon as I get IRB permission
19:59:00 PeggyG -> excellent!!
19:59:33 Cheri T -> i'll be sending out a pilot to get feedback soon
19:59:57 kcaise -> never hurts to backup the backups
20:00:05 Riptide -> @JL I was just wondring if this was the interesting banter we missed on the podcast version
20:00:18 PeggyG -> Send it out through ETT-great audience :-)
20:00:20 Alvin Trusty -> Google "edit audio"
20:00:36 kcaise -> have a great evening all
20:00:43 gary -> Thanks again.
20:00:47 Riptide -> Thanks guys!
20:01:05 Cheri T -> PEggy I'll be skyping you :-)
20:01:12 PeggyG -> bye all