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July 30, 2009
Preparations for K12 Online Conference 2009 
Participants include Jose Rodriquez, Wesley Fryer, Elizabeth Helfant, Jeff Lebow, Matt Montagne, Lisa Parisi, Cheryl Oakes, & Maria Knee
Chat Log Below 
20:48:51 matt montagne -> chat is totally borked on Firefox on my mac
20:49:03 matt montagne -> no biggie
20:49:09 matt montagne -> got Safari fired up
20:49:21 matt montagne -> :-) That isn't a bad thing!
20:50:01 lisa parisi -> Hello Jeff
20:50:16 cheritoledo -> Hello Jeff
20:50:18 cheritoledo -> thanks
20:51:22 lisa parisi -> It was great meeting you in person!!!
20:51:33 lisa parisi -> The highlight of my day!!
20:52:57 lisa parisi -> You can call me in.
20:53:20 cheritoledo -> I haven't been able to use FF on my Mac for the past year
20:53:29 cheritoledo -> i use Opera
20:53:44 matt montagne -> any edublogger con photos??
20:53:48 cheritoledo -> hahahaha
20:53:52 matt montagne -> @cheri...I LOVE Opera
20:54:07 cheritoledo -> it's very cool and much better with Java than FF in mac
20:54:17 matt montagne -> I'm not sure why I don't use it more often (Might be due to it not working with gmail)
20:54:37 JL -> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ebce09&w=all 
20:55:09 JoseRodriguez -> Hi there..
20:55:10 cheritoledo -> yes - that was very interesting
20:55:32 matt montagne -> Great photos!
20:57:47 melindamiller -> hello will be in and out the kids are "listening":):)
20:58:45 melindamiller -> can you put the link for asking for volunteers in the chat room, please
20:59:19 ehelfant -> I am in a hotel in rural KY and will never keep the connection.. I'm going to listen as best I can and maybe chat
20:59:56 matt montagne -> hey Sheila!
21:00:21 matt montagne -> Hey ms - sicence!
21:00:40 sheila -> Hi all!
21:01:38 kcaise -> hi everyone!
21:01:52 lisa parisi -> Hi Kim
21:02:08 wfryer -> howday!
21:02:10 msreneescience -> hi everyone
21:02:15 wfryer -> or how about howdy!
21:05:08 kcaise -> someone's doggie is thirsty
21:05:17 lisa parisi -> I was just thinking that, Kim
21:06:09 matt montagne -> I like the winery idea :-)
21:06:23 matt montagne -> Hello Darrenmurphy...welcome to the Edtech Brainstorm
21:06:31 darrenmurphy2 -> hi
21:06:32 matt montagne -> Hello amckiel...welcome
21:06:58 amckiel -> hi there :-)
21:07:17 matt montagne -> Getting an update on the K12Online Conference from Jose Rodriguez, Elizabeth Helfant, and Wes Fryer
21:07:36 matt montagne -> I do like the idea of pushing it back to first 2 weeks of December
21:07:37 wfryer -> yes, I wish we had a winery venue that would work for us!
21:08:04 cheritoledo -> I like that idea
21:08:06 matt montagne -> Hello Deebee...welcome to the Edtech Brainstorm on K12Online
21:08:15 deebee -> Hi...
21:08:38 matt montagne -> Virtual Poster Sessions would be cool
21:08:42 cheritoledo -> the December date, that is :-)
21:08:43 matt montagne -> live virtual poster sessions
21:08:52 matt montagne -> 15 mins or something like that
21:08:56 wfryer -> we have a "Will Rogers Theater" that I've wondered if we could use for a LAN party. We'd need to get sponsors to rent it out I think.
21:08:58 lisa parisi -> Me, too. Dec is much more doable than Sept.
21:09:17 melindamiller -> whats a LAN party
21:09:28 Dianne M -> it would be good to record any live event so that those not in USA can participate / learn.
21:09:29 matt montagne -> I would suggest that you push back the due date for conference proposals
21:09:41 cheritoledo -> Plus it gives teachers the opportunity to show what their doing with their students
21:09:47 cheritoledo -> at the moment
21:10:01 ehelfant -> I agree with you Matt... need to get call out to wider audience first
21:10:02 lisa parisi -> Good point, Cheri.
21:10:03 cheritoledo -> rather than what they did last year or what they want to do in the future
21:10:16 sheila -> It falls during our state conference.Wou
21:10:38 wfryer -> here is a link on LAN parties for k12online - http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=16 
21:10:44 matt montagne -> @ehelfant...and it will spread organically, which I think is great
21:10:53 ehelfant -> I want to try to get the word out to the general masses more so we have more folks interested-
21:10:55 kcaise -> that is a great idea!
21:11:11 melindamiller -> Okay we did host "LAN" parties last year
21:11:19 melindamiller -> I understand no
21:11:22 melindamiller -> now
21:11:31 matt montagne -> what about encouraging presenters to "remix" previous presentations...an update of presentations so to speak
21:11:47 JoseRodriguez -> Hey Durff..
21:11:51 matt montagne -> hey mrsdurff
21:11:55 mrsdurff -> hey
21:12:00 JoseRodriguez -> That's a great idea.. Matt
21:12:10 cheritoledo -> @Matt - that's exactly what I was just thinking
21:12:55 matt montagne -> and what about a 'long tail' approach...eg, accepting just about all presos that meet a certain minimum requirement
21:13:11 lisa parisi -> hello Durff
21:13:15 amckiel -> K12Online has modelled the use of so many cutting edge technologies and their benefits - I agree that LAN parties could help to grow the conversation :-)
21:13:19 mrsdurff -> hey parisi
21:14:04 kcaise -> will 20 minutes be the time limit this year as well?
21:14:07 mrsdurff -> hi carol
21:14:14 amckiel -> @wfryer - exactly... appeal to the newbies
21:14:17 wfryer -> melinda what were your experiences last year with LAN parties. What made it successful?
21:14:20 JoseRodriguez -> yes.. that's the idea.. kim
21:14:23 JoseRodriguez -> 20min.
21:14:28 kcaise -> ok
21:14:50 wfryer -> i was also thinking about thematically similar presentations
21:15:43 carolteach4 -> hi mrsdurff - how be you?
21:16:10 mrsdurff -> just not/only remix but build upon?
21:16:13 melindamiller -> don't hold them on school campus...that is no fun...needs to be social experience
21:16:22 JoseRodriguez -> http://k12onlineconference.org 
21:16:34 matt montagne -> I know I'm a little irritated about a rejection from a national conference that I received today...I worked hard on the proposals and they were both rejected...no real reason for the rejection either, with the exception of, "We've had an incredible number of submissions..."
21:16:41 mrsdurff -> hey sheika
21:17:15 carolteach4 -> That is too bad, Matt. You do such great stuff. They obviously haven't tuned in.
21:17:20 melindamiller -> matt I find that sometimes who is "approving" isn't sure what they want you would be great presenter
21:17:58 matt montagne -> @carol - I'm pretty much done with doing proposals for traditional conferences
21:18:02 mrsdurff -> hi drew
21:18:19 Drew -> Hey there Durrff, Matt et al :-)
21:18:25 Drew -> oops
21:18:28 matt montagne -> @carol and @melinda...thanks for kind words too
21:18:29 Drew -> I meant Durff
21:18:33 matt montagne -> hello Drew!
21:18:36 matt montagne -> Hey Patrick!
21:18:49 pwoessner -> hey matt...long time no see ;-)
21:18:55 mrsdurff -> hello patrick
21:18:57 wfryer -> @matt what would you like to see as a submission deadline for k12online09?
21:19:00 lisa parisi -> Matt, are you really giving up on traditional conferences? Don't you think that's where the audience needs to hear you?
21:19:01 matt montagne -> @pwoe ;-)
21:19:18 pwoessner -> Hello Durff
21:19:20 matt montagne -> @lisa, I don't think it is the best use of my time...
21:19:30 matt montagne -> hello Cheryl!
21:19:32 mrsdurff -> cheryl oakes has entered the room - raise your skis
21:19:33 JoseRodriguez -> Hey Cheryl..
21:19:34 Drew -> Matt - just caught the tail end of that conversation point there - maybe you in future coudl contribute to a MirandaMod - which is Miranadnet's own form of UN conference
21:19:46 lisa parisi -> But maybe it's where you voice can be heard the loudest..not just speaking to the choir.
21:19:46 matt montagne -> @lisa, and I think the reach can be so much greater in something like K12online
21:19:50 melindamiller -> you could probably just have two weeks of "live conversations" on different topics that would draw in new/more people because it is a live experience/ just throwing ideas out there
21:19:56 cheryloakes~ -> Hello Matt, Durff, Jose, Lisa, Shelia and all.
21:20:05 cheryloakes~ -> Hello Melindamiller
21:20:05 Drew -> Hey Jose :-)
21:20:13 lisa parisi -> Hi Cheryl
21:20:13 JoseRodriguez -> Drew is in the House...
21:20:18 matt montagne -> @Drew...that format sounds quite intriguing...
21:20:21 Drew -> Lisa - hey there
21:20:24 matt montagne -> hello minh!
21:20:25 melindamiller -> hello my friend cheryloakes long time
21:20:26 mrsdurff -> but less expensive
21:20:30 JoseRodriguez -> And Ted.. is doing international calls now..
21:20:32 Drew -> This is Drew Buddie aka digitalmaverick on Twitter
21:20:34 minh -> G'day all
21:20:39 lisa parisi -> Hi Drew!
21:20:51 melindamiller -> yes i like the 20 min format
21:21:04 cheryloakes~ -> I like the 20 min. format too!
21:21:09 Drew -> What a great group of luminairies I am in the virtual company of tonight :-)
21:21:11 matt montagne -> @minh and others just joining...we're getting an update on the K12Online conference, brainstorming new ideas, etc
21:21:34 Drew -> Matt et al have you seen the TEDx franchise? Are you motivated to set up your own?
21:21:35 carolteach4 -> Twitter links have made me aware of live streams that I've joined. Would never have known they were going on otherwise.
21:21:37 matt montagne -> @Drew...I agree with your last statement, now that you are here of course!
21:21:51 matt montagne -> @drew...I haven't seen Tedx...
21:21:52 Drew -> Carol - absolutely - Twitter is PRICELESS for that
21:21:55 mrsdurff -> hi elizabeth
21:22:10 lisa parisi -> I would love to set up a TEDx
21:22:11 ehelfant -> i keep losing connection and re-entering
21:22:14 mrsdurff -> hi sheila
21:22:26 cheryloakes~ -> Hey Carol, evening
21:22:41 matt montagne -> are previous sessions licensed in Creative Commons???
21:22:43 Drew -> Matt you REALLY (I mean *REALLY*) should incvestigate TEDx as an event its a way that ANYONE (any Tom Dick or Harry as we say in the UK) can set up their own licensed TED event!
21:23:15 cheritoledo -> What about Tech & Learning announcement?
21:23:18 Drew -> There's criteria to be met and a quite onerous online form to fill for TEDx
21:23:18 Sheila -> Belated Hi MrsDurff.
21:23:27 matt montagne -> @Drew...sounds quite intriguing...I will investigate...would be cool to do a San Francisco Bay Area TEDx Edu type of conference
21:23:37 cheryloakes~ -> I can plug it on my next time at Tech Learning Cheri!
21:23:47 melindamiller -> Edu TED?
21:23:48 mrsdurff -> participation
21:23:49 cheryloakes~ -> That is next 2nd Tuesday in August
21:23:51 carolteach4 -> It is so important that the recorded streams be available in an accessible format (with good annotation) for folks to listen to later. I often have to listen a couple of times to online conversations just to absorb all the info. Being able to stop and take notes is also a real boon.
21:23:54 wfryer -> we have discussed having a k12online "echo" show that might take place monthly
21:24:01 mrsdurff -> the ability to connect
21:24:18 Drew -> Yeah Matt find info here: http://www.ted.com/pages/view/id/264 
21:24:20 Sheila -> Sooo sllloooowwww tonight. Can't type . . . easily
21:24:28 cheryloakes~ -> carolteach4, I agree it is a good thing to have the sessions to play back
21:24:36 mrsdurff -> there is a learning curve with elluminate
21:24:55 Drew -> We have archived video of TEACHMEET events ona Blip.TV stream so as to INSPIRE others who could not attend the events
21:25:04 cheryloakes~ -> yes durff, Eluminate is good for small crowds, abigger crowd is very busy for many.
21:25:06 mrsdurff -> hi chriss
21:25:29 chriss -> hi
21:25:53 cheryloakes~ -> LisaP you were the walmart greeter
21:25:59 carolteach4 -> Hi, cheryloakes. I really tried to stay away, but curiosity got the better of me. TTT was so helpful last night - especially the Google part.
21:26:06 Drew -> Here's yur video archive of all Teachmeet events in past year http://teachmeet.blip.tv/ 
21:26:08 Sheila -> I think it's useful to have the chat broadcated. I could still follow along even though my screen wouldn't update.
21:26:20 mrsdurff -> cheryl did she have smiley stickers?
21:26:33 cheryloakes~ -> she should have Durff!
21:26:39 mrsdurff -> :)
21:26:47 wfryer -> has anyone here participated in one of the connectivism conferences?
21:27:00 minh -> I did cck08
21:27:05 Drew -> Wes I haven't what are those?
21:27:21 mrsdurff -> minh are you looking at CCK09?
21:27:44 minh -> definitely signed up as soon as I heard it was on
21:28:00 cheryloakes~ -> you are talking about smaller fireside chats
21:28:07 mrsdurff -> me too for the daily
21:28:23 cheryloakes~ -> The first year, there were continued chats at 4-6 week intervals for a few sessions.
21:28:23 lisa parisi -> Yes, Cheryl
21:28:27 matt montagne -> web heads in action online convergence was quite successful this past May...what about using some of the things that really went well from that conference
21:28:54 matt montagne -> don't throw the baby out with the bathwater either...K12Online has been a solid, solid conference
21:29:04 Drew -> There are SO MANY education conferences/unconferences Tweeted nowadays that its ashame that no ONE body is aggregating/collecting/archiving ALL the output or reporting back from each
21:29:07 matt montagne -> 24 Hour webcast
21:29:30 lisa parisi -> And you would moderate for all 24 hours. ;)
21:29:42 cheryloakes~ -> Especially given that the conference is happening in December, it may be harder to organize small chats until January.
21:29:46 matt montagne -> I'll take 3 hours... :-)
21:30:04 minh -> Didn't know about TEDx until a moment ago & voila there is to be on ein my city next year! :)
21:30:08 mrsdurff -> lost audio - may lose connection...
21:30:19 matt montagne -> I would encourage K12ONline to take a look at a different vetting model for proposals...
21:30:20 mrsdurff -> ah - i'm back for a while
21:30:28 mrsdurff -> sighs - teens
21:30:31 matt montagne -> I think you'll get more proposals if people know they'll be accepted
21:30:49 JL -> if anyone would like to join the conversation, skype 'worldbridges'
21:30:54 Drew -> Jose, how do I help out/volunteer? and if I do will I still be able to submit preso proposals? I submitted 4 last year but none got approved :-( will need to make next proposals stronger this time :-)
21:31:00 matt montagne -> of course, a minimum standard would be expected...then it becomes more of a 'long-tail' type of model
21:31:14 Sheila -> I like the idea of Sept so newbies can get their feet wet too.
21:31:24 mrsdurff -> welcome back wes
21:31:34 matt montagne -> wes, u must be on safari
21:31:56 Drew -> I also think, to attract NEW BLOOD a MENTORING approach is good, where experienced hands can coax or support 1st time presenters
21:31:58 wfryer -> and for northern hemisphere teachers, school is just starting... we thought about emphasizing teachers making connections with their classes for the term
21:32:09 wfryer -> @matt yes I"m struggling in safari - should I do the chat in firefox instead?
21:32:09 cheritoledo -> gotta run - I like the December date - the re-mix - Let me know where help is needed.
21:32:24 cheryloakes~ -> yes Wes, try FF
21:32:33 wfryer -> @Drew YES, I agree mentoring is the approach which has been successful and is proven
21:32:34 cheritoledo -> @Wes - try Opera
21:32:40 cheritoledo -> bye
21:32:42 matt montagne -> @wes...I'm actually on Safari as well...this chat tool is less sluggish in Safari than FF
21:32:46 wfryer -> ok, I'm out for a sec and will resurface in firefox!
21:32:47 Drew -> erhaps in such circumstances the mentor could be a sensible choice as moderaotor chair of the mentee's sesison, as would know what to expect
21:32:49 matt montagne -> Opera rocks!
21:32:58 matt montagne -> welcome back minh
21:33:00 mrsdurff -> welcome back mkn
21:33:03 mrsdurff -> min
21:33:05 lisa parisi -> I'm a flock person myself.
21:33:05 minh -> :)
21:33:15 Sheila -> In NH, it will take place during our state conference.
21:33:16 kcaise -> same here @lisap
21:33:19 cheryloakes~ -> Flock tanked on me lately LisaP
21:33:21 wfryer -> call for volunteers out too!
21:33:22 Drew -> hey there minh :-)
21:33:37 wfryer -> http://k12onlineconference.org 
21:33:38 minh -> G'day Drew
21:33:42 lisa parisi -> Haven't had any issues yet, Cheryl. Fingers crossed.
21:34:14 cheryloakes~ -> I should say LisaP that I haven't tried flock on ETT for 3 months, will try again
21:34:39 mrsdurff -> Do we need to sign up if we were signed up by that Los Angeles guy already?
21:34:46 JoseRodriguez -> :-)
21:35:00 Drew -> Didn't Stephen Downes get a bit narky a couple of years ago about not being included in K-12online? I recall a REALLY narky post of his about it - an example of where not EVERYONE is happy with an event like this, mores the pity :-(
21:35:03 matt montagne -> It would be cool to have an 'administrator' strand of some sort
21:35:08 cheryloakes~ -> I would say that SEEDLiNGS ning will help if there are people who are putting proposals together and want feedback from a group of helpful educators! Join SEedlings ning and I will make a place for the conversations.
21:35:30 wfryer -> @matt we have the "leading the change" strand to aim at administrative issues again
21:35:38 mrsdurff -> subscripted - that's what we were
21:35:44 matt montagne -> @wes...excellent
21:36:04 Drew -> There's been a thread of discussion about Teachmeets doing more, in the UK, to atrtract new speakers, instead of the same old same old, I think mentor/mentee, or 'bring a friend' chanelleges are good for doing this
21:36:06 matt montagne -> @Drew...I would think that the more sessions K12 has, the better
21:36:12 pwoessner -> sounds like the PR chair will have some work to do...
21:36:13 wfryer -> @Drew yes we had some interesting interactions with him in the past for sure
21:36:32 Drew -> lol Wes - as I recall it was 'A listing' he didn't like
21:36:33 wfryer -> the theme of "bridging the divide" can be extended in so many ways
21:36:53 wfryer -> @Drew yes, he definitely doesn't like elitism
21:36:54 matt montagne -> I've been thinking, perhaps, of trying to get the youth webcasters that I work with involved
21:37:00 matt montagne -> we would be happy to do a live session
21:37:25 Drew -> matt your students are fantastic ambassdors
21:37:37 carolteach4 -> Seedlings Ning has really grown since Bob, Cheryl and Alice did their webcast on developing PLNs during the summer. You'd reach lots of educators and preeducators there.
21:37:40 lisa parisi -> Have to head out. Thanks for the chat. Will listen to the rest in archive.
21:37:44 ehelfant -> phone dropped signal and I'm quiet anyway tonight so I'm going to hang in chat as long as I can keep connection
21:37:52 Drew -> Perhaps k-12 needs a LEARNER starnd or at least encourages LEARNERS to put forward proposals
21:37:55 mrsdurff -> Leading the Change? melinda!
21:38:00 matt montagne -> the format of K12Online presos are transformationally different, but I would like to see the committee look at altering the vetting process as well...
21:38:18 matt montagne -> the vetting process seems to be a bit "old school"
21:38:30 Drew -> Ohhhhh there's sound! Sorry i only just erealised this
21:38:40 Drew -> I am a moron sometimes :-(
21:38:49 JoseRodriguez -> so...funny Drew..
21:39:16 Drew -> I've realised I've been relying on text-based stuff til now, stupid me
21:39:23 mrsdurff -> matt the word, "vett" is old school
21:39:36 Sheila -> :)
21:39:42 carolteach4 -> @Drew - I would like to see a Learner strand - a place where folks working with a new tool could get together and help each other.
21:39:59 wfryer -> @matt you certainly could submit a proposal for a live event with students
21:40:20 kcaise -> what is the difference between a vetting process and an approval process for presentations?
21:40:29 ehelfant -> I'm hearing that we need to get the word out for the Sept LAN party and try to bring a buddy and teach newbies how to interact in that meeting space (elluminate)-that we should consider accepting all the proposals, and that we need more opportunity to have live interactions around specific sessions or with session presenters--and we need to extend the deadline
21:41:17 Sheila -> @ehelfant - Good summary!
21:41:21 mireillem10 -> yeah i'm in
21:41:25 ehelfant -> and we have work to do getting the word out to extend the attendence to a greater audience
21:42:52 minh -> being a buddy/mentor to likely participants is a good idea - too many people afraid to try afraid to ask for help
21:43:16 Drew -> minh - I think mentoring has a great amount of potential for embracing others
21:43:31 cheryloakes~ -> back
21:43:35 matt montagne -> good point Jose
21:43:35 wfryer -> so a good clarification to know is we have never been overwhelmed by tons and tons of proposals - in fact we've REALLY had to work and scramble in some strands to get 9 more presentations
21:43:36 Drew -> and for persuading them to take part
21:43:53 cheryloakes~ -> excellent point Jose
21:44:19 Sheila -> Yeah!
21:44:22 JL -> Maria's husband is just out of surgery
21:44:26 mrsdurff -> Maria the cab girl and her english patient
21:44:35 carolteach4 -> That mentoring factor is very important. I don't think I'd have become as involved in these forums without the encouragement of Durff, Sheila, Cheryl, SusanE, Matt, etc. Their welcome and encouragement (Jeff and Dave, too) is priceless.
21:44:39 cheryloakes~ -> absolutely durff
21:44:59 mrsdurff -> :)
21:44:59 Drew -> Wes I appreciate you are very busy but it would have been useful to know WHY unsuccessful proposals were not approved as last yr I only found out my 4 had been not approved :-(
21:45:04 Sheila -> Same here Carolteach4
21:45:19 Drew -> ... so I didn't know what to avoid for submitting THIS year
21:45:43 matt montagne -> I do want to say that I appreciate the work of K12Online...I find your work to be extraordinary
21:45:56 minh -> mentor people to be mentors & let the network work
21:45:59 Drew -> 100% concur with your last comment Matt
21:46:00 matt montagne -> again, don't throw baby out with the bathwater ;-)
21:46:12 cheryloakes~ -> K12 has really grown since the beginning and I've appreciated the work and level of presentations.
21:47:19 matt montagne -> I love the thinking Jeff
21:48:04 minh -> support the novice presenters
21:48:09 Drew -> What's the limiting factor for the NUMBER of presentations?
21:48:37 Drew -> Wes of course now you have Twitter as a publicity drive
21:49:08 carolteach4 -> How about having something like the smackdown - small pieces of a larger session - get newcomers involved even for three or four minute; they'd experience the rush of being online and presenting-maybe for the first time-but without the onus of having to speak for a long time. Of course, there would have to be a moderator to keep it moving from one short presentation to another.
21:49:27 wfryer -> @drew one limiting factor is volunteer convener time. No one is compensated for this, and doing 10 presos in a strand takes a lot of time to put together with high quality
21:49:34 matt montagne -> @carol...I love that idea
21:49:43 wfryer -> the time to just format 10 posts per strand as we've done them in the past takes a LOT time
21:49:46 Drew -> Carol - Tecahmeet in the UK has the format of 7 minute presentations or 2 minute micropresentations
21:49:53 Drew -> oops TEACHMEET
21:49:58 minh -> I too like carols idea
21:50:21 minh -> But Wes is right - moderator time
21:50:26 matt montagne -> I like the idea of 3-4 vetted presos for each of the 4 sessions, and then open it up to anyone...but the other sessions could be posted to YouTube, Voicethread, etc...or they could be even live
21:50:28 Drew -> wes - thanks for that information re. limiting factors
21:50:34 kcaise -> ed tech talk koolkaid?
21:51:06 cheryloakes~ -> Kim, flavor of the evening?
21:51:14 JL -> edtech edublogger web2.0 Kool-aid
21:51:17 kcaise -> sounds yummmy
21:51:21 Sheila -> Last year was my first experience with an unconference, k12 online. Did as night falls and listened to archives later. Synchronous was more important to me.
21:51:44 ehelfant -> synchronous makes it deeper learning
21:51:51 cheryloakes~ -> yes shelia, the synchronous really is the icing on the cake
21:51:59 minh -> Post the presos on youtube & do a people's choice selection process for realtime conf participation?
21:52:00 ehelfant -> better reflection and synthesis of thought
21:52:06 cheryloakes~ -> yes ehelfant, the conversations and reflections are rich
21:52:08 matt montagne -> 1 Keynote for each of the four sessions, 3 sub-keynotes, and then long tail
21:52:10 wfryer -> @elefant: yes, one of our big goals is to find ways to deepen synchronous learning opportunities
21:52:22 JoseRodriguez -> sure.. but synchronous with content.. to consume. is the idea with the Virtual LAN parties...
21:52:26 wfryer -> @matt so how would you decide how to name "sub-keynotes?"
21:52:27 mrsdurff -> How many people can you personally invite to present? I invited two already - catch up!
21:52:44 kcaise -> the 30 minute neccunplugged sessions were great too
21:52:46 Sheila -> especially for a newbie . .
21:52:57 Drew -> <CLAPS> @ Durff well done you :-)
21:53:05 minh -> nurture the newbies
21:53:34 wfryer -> idea of live events with plenary sessions
21:53:46 carolteach4 -> @minh- you need the newbies in order to grow and for the newbies to grow
21:54:07 JoseRodriguez -> ...... ok....... plenary sessions.. what ever that means... sure
21:54:24 mrsdurff -> what high speed?
21:54:28 mrsdurff -> not here
21:54:30 ehelfant -> should we ask each presenter as part of the process if they would be willing to host their own synchronous discussion session and what tool they would use
21:54:34 Drew -> Carol and 'Bring a Friend' challenge would be cool for encouraging newbies
21:54:48 JL -> plenaries are when everyone at the conference gathers at the same time, right? Hence the live component
21:54:56 mrsdurff -> did you know Japan's broadband is both faster and cheaper than ours?
21:55:05 JoseRodriguez -> got it plenary .. my fiend google friend clarified it for me.
21:55:36 Sheila -> Good ideas Drew!
21:55:46 minh -> @mrsdurf & Koreas is faster again
21:55:47 Drew -> JL - pleanry is usually after the confernece has separated for different threads are brought back together for a formal ending to the day/event
21:55:47 carolteach4 -> I have at least three folks at my school that have never participated in these sessions but that I could convince to joing me.
21:56:10 minh -> @carol & then get them to bring a friend
21:56:15 kcaise -> jeff!
21:56:20 Drew -> BUT in UK schools plenary just means the final part of the lesson in whatever shape/form it may take
21:56:59 kcaise -> mashable versions of former sessions
21:57:30 minh -> meanwhile back at synchronous - tricky in a global sense
21:57:43 Drew -> Also what about awarding a 'certificate' to those who present to recognise what they've done albeit 'unofficially' would be nice
21:58:23 minh -> yes Drew all that & some publishing of the content will encourage
21:58:33 Drew -> minh yes :-)
21:58:35 Sheila -> For global cohesion - LAN unslumber party all over
21:58:49 mireillem10 -> and i have issues
21:58:54 Drew -> I've enjoyed this and will ensure I've a mike set up mext time
21:59:22 cheryloakes~ -> Drew if you want to get feed back , come and join Seedlings for proposal feedback.
21:59:37 JL -> just realized we lost you Elizabeth - would you like to come back in for a closing comment
21:59:40 cheryloakes~ -> bitbybitseedlings.ning.com
22:00:00 carolteach4 -> I am going to see if I can get some teachers involved in the K-12 online and see if I can get the powers that be at our school give them CEU's for participating.
22:00:02 matt montagne -> Great work K12Online Team...
22:00:11 ehelfant -> I'm good- I'm feeling shy and without connection power tonight:)
22:00:13 cheryloakes~ -> great idea carolteach4
22:00:13 Drew -> cheryl :-) I'll do that, but just didn't know what was wrong with my presos last yr so as to avoid same deficiencies this year :-)
22:00:16 JoseRodriguez -> cool.. Thanks
22:00:31 ehelfant -> I'm enjoying the chat and taking notes on sentiments expressed
22:00:46 DaveC -> Hi everyone!
22:00:49 cheryloakes~ -> there may not have been anything wrong Drew, just a tweak
22:00:56 matt montagne -> hello DaveC!
22:01:08 DaveC -> Hi Matt
22:01:12 matt montagne -> also, I would try to get all presenters to submit their presos with CC licenses
22:01:17 matt montagne -> hello Jen!
22:01:23 Drew -> cheryl, bless you :-)
22:01:37 Drew -> good point Matt re CC
22:01:50 Jen -> love it -- he said CLOSING THOUGHTS?? :)
22:01:59 Jen -> sorry, I wandered in late
22:02:05 chriss -> Nice to see what's up with k12online again this year. You all put on a fantastic show.
22:02:36 Drew -> cheers Cheryl :-)
22:02:40 DaveC -> Could people submit requests for presentations? ie, Beginners saying what they are looking for?
22:02:51 kcaise -> hi dave
22:02:56 mrsdurff -> ok, just invited 52 people - and you?
22:03:10 Jen -> will there be NOT K12 again???
22:03:15 cheryloakes~ -> Durff doesn't it count that I invited all the seedlings ning today?
22:03:32 mrsdurff -> yes it counts
22:03:38 wfryer -> sept 26th then as an initial LAN party, for k12online echo?
22:04:03 mrsdurff -> clap clap clap
22:04:09 kcaise -> all right!
22:04:14 mireillem10 -> me
22:04:23 mireillem10 -> me-ray
22:04:27 JoseRodriguez -> hi..
22:04:31 kcaise -> congrats @mireille
22:04:35 cheryloakes~ -> Hi Me-ray!! Cheryl here
22:04:40 mireillem10 -> i am
22:04:43 amckiel -> thanks for the chat :-)
22:04:43 matt montagne -> Hello Mireille!
22:04:47 kcaise -> @jose, check your DM on twitter
22:04:54 Drew -> G'night all from Rickmansworth where its 3am
22:04:54 Sheila -> So stay here fore WCA?
22:04:54 minh -> thanx all :)
22:04:59 matt montagne -> Thanks, everyone, for contributing to the Brainstorm 2nite
22:05:06 matt montagne -> bye Maria!
22:05:15 matt montagne -> :-) Don't get vacuumed!
22:05:46 kcaise -> night jose
22:05:57 mrsdurff -> bye jose
22:06:09 mrsdurff -> hit record mireille
22:06:11 kcaise -> jeff is the expert!