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Out guest on this week’s Teachers Teaching Teachers is Brian Hughes, Director of Social Media, Teachers College, Columbia University and the Head of Publishing & Design, EdLab | A Research, Design and Development unit at Te  achers College, Columbia University . Ron Link and Paul Allison have a conversation with with Brian about two projects that he has helped to design at Teachers College: Pocket Knowledge  and After Ed .
Q. What is Pocket Knowledge?
A. PocketKnowledge is an on-line digital archive that allows users to store and retrieve their own personally-authored materials. It also allows users to post comments about all materials within the archive. In addition, PocketKnowledge is home to the Teachers College, Columbia University Gottesman Libraries Archive-an archive containing documents written by scholars such as Edward Thorndike, Paul Monroe and Maxine Greene.Q.
What is After Ed?
After Ed TV is a web-based video channel produced by EdLab  at Teachers College, Columbia University . New content is published weekly, including news, documentary, and editorial segments.
After Ed TV is syndicated – you can get code  to put our syndicated player on your website – and available for free. EdLab produces weekly content for After Ed TV, supports collaborative production at Teachers College, and invites submissions . We publish content for students and teachers of all ages who want to better understand the education sector and the changing nature of education.
Teachers College, with its research and teacher preparation missions, is a resource of diverse and innovative thinking about education and advancements in the understanding of learning. After Ed’s mission is to organize this knowledge production and bring it to the attention of a new audience attuned to the post-industrial era of education.
Enjoy this podcast with Brian Hughes from Teachers College’s EdLab.
Click Read more to see a transcript of a chat that was happening during the webcast.
20:51:06 paulallison: Hi Elyse
20:51:14 paulallison: Do you want to join us?
20:52:00 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone -
20:52:30 cmsturgeon: Hello Susan
20:54:02 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone again we're just trying to get the sound stable before we start broadcasting
20:55:59 ElyseEA: Hi everyone -- sorry, away from the screen getting coffee. :-)
20:57:13 SusanEttenheim: sound problems please bear with us! you would not want to hear this
20:57:26 Paul Allison: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/160948365/whats-a-library-after-web-2... 
20:59:54 Paul Allison: It seems that we will be starting soon.
21:00:02 ronlink: Very good
21:00:09 Paul Allison: http://paulallison.tumblr.com/post/160948365/whats-a-library-after-web-2... 
21:00:39 ronlink: Nice
21:00:42 Paul Allison: http://pocketknowledge.tc.columbia.edu/home.php 
21:00:49 Paul Allison: http://aftered.tv/ 
21:01:02 SusanEttenheim: hi everyone still trying to fix sound
21:01:47 Paul Allison: We will be with Brian Hughes from Teachers College soon.
21:02:25 ronlink: One of my questions for Brian is how many teachers and/or teachers-to-be know about AfterEd and/or do they want to be known :)
21:02:31 ElyseEA: Nice -- NWP has shared AfterEd content broadly, especially Voice of TC Record. It has really engaged new readers with the material at TC Record. So hat's off.
21:02:52 ronlink: Terrific
21:02:54 ElyseEA: We've also posted some of the school focused material.
21:03:20 Paul Allison: Hi.
21:03:27 ElyseEA: Hi Paul
21:05:03 ronlink: AferEd is such a tremendous undertaking
21:05:26 ElyseEA: Yeah...video. Oy.
21:05:50 ElyseEA: Still no sound, or just me?
21:06:13 Paul Allison: We're starting now.
21:06:15 Paul Allison: soon
21:06:19 ronlink: Broadcst is about to start
21:06:36 ElyseEA: ;)
21:06:45 Paul Allison: http://www.linkedin.com/in/2hughes 
21:07:15 Paul Allison: http://edlab.tc.columbia.edu/ 
21:07:33 ronlink: I had a student interning at AfterEd this past summer. Incredible experience for him
21:07:55 SusanEttenheim: hi all how is our sound?
21:08:17 carolteach4: loud and clear on ettA
21:08:24 SusanEttenheim: thanks carol!
21:08:33 ElyseEA: Sounding good
21:09:48 SusanEttenheim: hi demacisaac welcome!
21:09:54 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:10:04 Paul Allison: http://aftered.tv/ 
21:10:14 demacisaac: Hi PEI grade two
21:10:23 demacisaac: How about you
21:12:29 SusanEttenheim: sorry demaacisaac was behind the scenes... I teach high school in nyc
21:12:59 demacisaac: I see is this on ustream
21:13:03 SusanEttenheim: hi rogersd welcome
21:13:10 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:13:22 SusanEttenheim: I don't think we're on ustream now though
21:13:44 SusanEttenheim: are you listening there demacisaac?
21:14:13 demacisaac: I don't see you no volume either sorry
21:14:30 SusanEttenheim: click on edtechtalk A
21:14:35 SusanEttenheim: do you hear now?
21:14:56 rogersd: Hi! I teach spanish in wisconsin
21:15:10 SusanEttenheim: welcome rogersd! what ages and which city?
21:15:35 SusanEttenheim: I have some Spanish teachers at my school ready to talk with other Spanish classe... maybe we have a match?
21:15:41 rogersd: darlington high school (290 students)are you guys on now? i usually watch you live but there is nothing playing...
21:15:51 demacisaac: sorry no the speaker or blue bubble
21:15:54 SusanEttenheim: this show is only audio
21:16:00 SusanEttenheim: edtechtalk A
21:16:05 SusanEttenheim: on the listen button
21:16:55 rogersd: gotcha thanks!
21:17:02 SusanEttenheim: can you hear now?
21:17:43 rogersd: i can hear you now. gracias! i would love to collaborate. where are you from?
21:17:45 SusanEttenheim: welcome back demacisaac
21:17:49 SusanEttenheim: nyc
21:17:56 SusanEttenheim: welcome elyseea!
21:18:02 ElyseEA: Hi Susan
21:18:08 demacisaac: no I'll keep trying I heard the word "welcome" and that was it
21:18:13 SusanEttenheim: and carol - would you please introduce yourself!?
21:18:13 Paul Allison: Elyse
21:18:28 Paul Allison: I'm about to talk about Digital Is as an archival project.
21:18:32 Paul Allison: Is that fair?
21:18:35 SusanEttenheim: demacisaac are you clicking on edtechtalk A?
21:18:43 ElyseEA: Yes, I think it's fair.
21:19:07 SusanEttenheim: Elyse we'd love for you to join in the conversation - is your skype on?
21:19:30 ElyseEA: Not on this machine...not home...
21:19:42 carolteach4: Hi -I am a computer technology integration teacher at a middle school (7&8)in Bethay, CT -I've been learning a lot by tuning into shows such as TTT on EdTechTalk.
21:19:55 SusanEttenheim: ah ok well feel free to ask questions/comments here!
21:20:02 demacisaac: It doesn't let me click on EdTech Talk do vista people have problems
21:20:07 ElyseEA: Will do
21:20:07 SusanEttenheim: welcome carol!
21:20:22 SusanEttenheim: anyone out there tonight using vista?
21:20:56 carolteach4: Hi, Susan- in Peabody, MA at hotel - going back to CT tomorrow- start school on Aug. 31
21:20:58 ElyseEA: Vista? No...
21:22:10 demacisaac: Volume is on... I don't understand
21:22:49 ElyseEA: Demacisaac, sorry you're having trouble. Are you listening to EdTechTalk A on itunes?
21:23:01 ElyseEA: That's working for me...
21:23:02 SusanEttenheim: ron did you see my skype chat message?
21:24:08 demacisaac: not sure itunes?
21:24:51 ElyseEA: If you have iTunes, the speaker on the left above 'stream status' should work.
21:24:51 SusanEttenheim: roger sd - how did you find us tonight?
21:25:16 SusanEttenheim: welcome back demacisaac!
21:25:17 rogersd: twitter. you can call me dianna
21:25:21 SusanEttenheim: we'll figure it out
21:25:41 rogersd: i subscribe to your podcast as well
21:25:46 SusanEttenheim: ahh what levels of spanish do you teach?
21:25:54 SusanEttenheim: great so you've been listening!
21:26:05 SusanEttenheim: do you have any questions or comments for brian?
21:26:14 demacisaac: I did this the other night and watched ustream. It worked fine,,,not sure what else to try
21:26:33 SusanEttenheim: yes, we don't broadcast on ustream
21:26:48 SusanEttenheim: do you see on the upper right hand corner the listen icon?
21:26:58 SusanEttenheim: roger can you hear ok?
21:27:05 SusanEttenheim: oops dianna?
21:27:12 Paul Allison: http://pocketknowledge.tc.columbia.edu/home.php 
21:27:17 rogersd: havent listened in a couple of weeks but getting back into the school mode. i teach levels 2-4 we just added 4 last year and i'm trying to make it more project based so these podcasts are great.
21:27:22 rogersd: yep i hear you just fine.
21:27:40 SusanEttenheim: what platform are you on dianna?
21:28:23 ElyseEA: You're doing fine, Paul.
21:28:52 rogersd: ive got a mac
21:30:11 SusanEttenheim: so you are listening in itunes?
21:30:28 rogersd: yes
21:30:30 SusanEttenheim: hi kabodian welcome!
21:30:37 kabodian: hi there.
21:30:44 SusanEttenheim: what and where do you teach?
21:30:55 SusanEttenheim: rogersd when do your students return?
21:31:00 kabodian: I teach 7th grade English in East Lansing, MI
21:31:06 SusanEttenheim: what kind of planning or help are you looking for?
21:31:13 SusanEttenheim: welcome kabodian
21:31:48 kabodian: This idea of archiving knowledge and how we do it (both at school and personally) is intriguing to me...and difficult
21:32:05 ElyseEA: Yes, this is a good way to look at it. It also means that many of us can participate in what could be considered "curation" -- or be a curator -- by finding interesting ways to (in effect) remix materials in an archive so that new understandings emerge.
21:32:05 SusanEttenheim: very difficult!
21:32:42 SusanEttenheim: who with us tonight has become this type of curator?
21:32:45 rogersd: sept. 1st. video/podcast projects using grammar review/lit and movie resources. i am also looking at ePals for collaboration with schools in latin america
21:33:36 ElyseEA: Actually, I mean curator with a lower-case 'c'...as something that many people can participate in. Liberate an elite term, in effect. :-)
21:33:37 kabodian: I'm thinking about how to archive my students' wiki pages from last year. Is that the type of archiving we're talking about?
21:34:59 ElyseEA: could be, sure. How could they be archived (as in stored), but with the tags and aanalysis necessary to make sure that it can be called up for interesting purposes that might extend beyond the life of the wiki itself?
21:35:38 demacisaac: HI again, I downloaded real player,,,can hear now :-)
21:35:53 carolteach4: It is wonderful to have all these archived resources available; the problem is there is so much -one gets lost going from link to link-information overload
21:36:06 ElyseEA: I'm thinking it's the difference between "saving" as just holding onto it and 'archiving' as if it is expected to be seen again.
21:36:19 ElyseEA: BTW, agree with Carol.
21:36:22 rogersd: i agree carol
21:36:27 kabodian: it's hard to know if you'll need it again
21:37:25 kabodian: I've been using diigo online to keep track of websites I may want to use in the future. That helps me (as long as I keep them organized and tag them) feel that some of my online world is in one place
21:37:28 carolteach4: I'm still working my way through the archived podcasts at EdTechTalk - they are wonderful - so rich.
21:37:35 rogersd: i use delicious and save tons a files on my wiki.
21:37:38 ElyseEA: So there's a role for the 'broker' between the information and the searcher. Just a bunch of links, or endless twitter recommendations, etc. only give us headaches.
21:37:56 SusanEttenheim: how true elyseea
21:38:03 ElyseEA: It's great when you get to an actual person
21:38:08 carolteach4: That's what I wanted to ask. I followed the link to Pocket Knowledge, but wondered about the registration process.
21:38:36 SusanEttenheim: hi sr welcome!
21:38:45 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:38:48 sr: hi Susan
21:39:04 SusanEttenheim: please introduce yourself!
21:39:44 sr: I am a substitute teacher from Ottawa, ON and offer K to 3 Great Resources sessions at tappedin.org
21:40:01 sr: also at knowplace.ca
21:40:12 SusanEttenheim: welcome sr - glad you could join us tonight
21:40:35 carolteach4: I'm still using Google notebook to annotate and archive websites I want to remember. The only problem is I've collected so many, it's hard finding what I want even though I have several different notebook topics.
21:40:41 SusanEttenheim: he kabodian welcome back!
21:41:12 kabodian: thanks. I went away from the page for a second and was logged out.
21:41:32 SusanEttenheim: well, glad you're back!'
21:41:38 SusanEttenheim: hi cheri welcome!
21:41:44 SusanEttenheim: where and what do you teach?
21:41:46 cheri toledo: hi susan
21:41:51 cheri toledo: me?
21:41:55 SusanEttenheim: yes :)
21:41:56 carolteach4: Our school is using ATLAS software for curriculum mapping and archiving all electronic documents created by teachers to support the curriculum.
21:42:06 cheri toledo: I teach at illinois state university
21:42:12 SusanEttenheim: is that archiving too carol
21:42:35 cheri toledo: i'm teaching instruction design (doc), emerging educational technology (masters), child development ( undergrads)
21:42:48 rogersd: we have a similar program carol called "Eclipse"
21:43:05 Carolyn Ponce: Hi everyone, Sorry I'm late.
21:43:25 SusanEttenheim: glad you're here carolyn! where and what do you teach?
21:43:34 SusanEttenheim: glad you're here cheri
21:43:41 SusanEttenheim: how did you find us?
21:43:53 kabodian: I'm teaching journalism for the first time this year. We'll be putting our newspaper online as well as in print. I'm trying to figure out what platform would be best to put it online and this idea of how it will be archived plays into that
21:44:08 carolteach4: @Susan -you are such a great moderator; thanks for all your welcoming ways.
21:44:21 Carolyn Ponce: I teach music appreciation for Arkansas State U and 2 community colleges. I also will teach American music for the university of Memphis in the fall.
21:44:44 SusanEttenheim: welcome carolyn and thanks carol!
21:44:59 SusanEttenheim: i moderated with Moms Online in 1999 - that was hard!
21:45:08 SusanEttenheim: learned from the best :)
21:45:20 demacisaac: Q. How do we extend (get readers) our networks on twitter and on our blogs.
21:45:56 SusanEttenheim: demacisaac do you look at who people you admire are following on twitter?
21:46:04 Paul Allison: http://aftered.tv/ 
21:46:15 SusanEttenheim: also when you make comments to someone, they return comments
21:46:27 SusanEttenheim: have any of you seen after ed tv?
21:46:45 Carolyn Ponce: not yet.
21:46:48 rogersd: no but will check it out
21:46:52 carolteach4: I follow well established educators in the field of techology. I find their links to be valuable nearly 100% of the time.
21:46:56 ElyseEA: yes, the videos are pretty popular in some NWP spaces
21:47:00 demacisaac: yes I follow may more than I have followers many do not return statements
21:47:16 demacisaac: *many
21:47:29 SusanEttenheim: how true demacisaac but that's the challenge too right?
21:48:11 ElyseEA: That's the key to some of their popularity -- short form. But then linked to something longer and more substantive for follow up.
21:48:12 demacisaac: will richardson wrote to me this week :-)
21:48:32 SusanEttenheim: on what topic demacisaac?
21:49:07 cheri toledo: @Susan - have you heard from Sharon Peters lately?
21:49:19 SusanEttenheim: no haven't cheri - have you?
21:49:21 demacisaac: complex blogging..for a paper I was writing with co-students
21:49:34 SusanEttenheim: oh interesting!
21:49:37 cheri toledo: Oh, I was the yearbook advisor one year while teaching English
21:49:51 SusanEttenheim: I think it's true that people do respond when it's of interest to them
21:50:09 cheri toledo: @Susan - not in the past few days - got a couple of text messages on my phone but nothing recently
21:50:10 demacisaac: ElyseEA do you mean, keep blogs short? is the answer?
21:50:13 SusanEttenheim: too bad kabodian left...
21:50:48 ElyseEA: @demacisaac No, I was responding to Brian talking about the short-form video. It's one of the reason folks I know like the AfterEd videos
21:51:10 SusanEttenheim: so who else saw the AfterEd videos?
21:51:22 ElyseEA: But the notion of needing to have a 'short form' item linked to more depth might hold nicely for blogs too
21:51:42 demacisaac: thanks
21:52:08 ElyseEA: @demacisaac What's your blog?
21:52:33 carolteach4: I think blogs are a wonderful way to archive information - even if it's only for ones self, and when others find your blog and comment, it makes the experience richer. I was so disappointed that there were so few comments on my blog, but it is there if I need to reference it.
21:53:20 ElyseEA: It's hard to find one's way to things. Anyone want to put up their URLs?
21:53:26 SusanEttenheim: carol do you comment on other blogs and invite those writers to your blog?
21:53:35 demacisaac: dawnelai@wordpress, it is for my U of A course, all of my classmates are linked to it too, We are required to comment on each others blog. It is very affirming
21:53:53 ElyseEA: Thanks.
21:54:08 carolteach4: I haven't added much to the blog this summer since my intended audience is mainly my faculty. I do try to comment on other blogs and sometimes drop a link to mine.
21:54:50 ElyseEA: Need to log out; TTFN.
21:54:54 demacisaac: carolteach4 what is your url I am really interested in elementary grades
21:55:15 SusanEttenheim: thanks for coming elyse!
21:55:38 carolteach4: @demacisaac and @susan ettenheim - the student I was speaking with this morning in Wiscasset felt that her experience would have been richer if the folks she'd left comments for had responded back to her.
21:55:57 SusanEttenheim: yes it is a challenge carol!
21:56:38 carolteach4: @demacisaac - I teach grades 7&8 - http://evolvingclassroombethany.blogspot.com 
21:57:14 demacisaac: I will add you to my google reader
21:57:45 carolteach4: I call it evolving classroom because that is what I'm attempting for me and the direction in which our school is heading. Please drop me a comment and a link to your blog. Thanks!
21:57:47 SusanEttenheim: carol we always tell our students to comment to others in a provocative way and invite them to read yours...
21:58:05 SusanEttenheim: to comment back
21:58:33 cheri toledo: Any elementary teacher-bloggers in here?
21:58:35 carolteach4: I'm sure, but getting them to do it is another thing.
21:58:42 SusanEttenheim: how true
22:00:20 demacisaac: cheri toledo I am grade two
22:00:26 SusanEttenheim: I was reading today about confidence in looking at art and in a way , it's the same issue with all of this too - how do you develop an audience with all of its archives
22:00:51 cheri toledo: @demacisacc do you have a blog? If so, can you share the URL
22:01:10 cheri toledo: sorry I spelled your name wrong
22:01:11 demacisaac: I would love to correlate art and technology.....very closely related, for sure
22:01:44 cheri toledo: I like the out of the box thinking that artists and musicians bring to the table
22:02:26 carolteach4: I work with my art teacher at my middle school. She has the kids to the projects using traditional techniques, then we play with digital photos of the projects and put a technological curve on them. The kids love it.
22:02:50 SusanEttenheim: what's an example of one carol?
22:02:55 demacisaac: dawnelai@wordpress look me up please leave comments
22:03:14 SusanEttenheim: carol do you know art teachers 2.0?
22:03:19 cheri toledo: My undergrads will be using voice thread for one of their projects
22:03:45 cheri toledo: Hopefully they will like it enough to use with their future teachers
22:03:58 cheri toledo: Glad I found you all, if only for 15 minutes
22:04:03 SusanEttenheim: cheri the voice thread people shared new info with us last week... look for the podcasts
22:04:08 cheri toledo: Thanks Susan! Great meeting you at NECC
22:04:15 cheri toledo: very cool
22:04:35 SusanEttenheim: come back every Wed!
22:05:15 SusanEttenheim: night everyone!
22:05:20 SusanEttenheim: thanks for joining us!
22:05:25 cheri toledo: bye all - thanks
22:05:29 carolteach4: Kids do a nonobjective piece using pastels on a large piece of black construction paper. They do a wonderful job. Pictures of each student's creation are taken and put into the student drive. The kids open them in Photoshop and save to their own folders. They then crop and brighten and save the original. Then they "save as" 4 different versions which they manipulate using filters and other tools in PhotoShop. They then use variations in Publisher projects to make calendars, cards, etc.
22:05:42 rogersd: thanks!
22:05:59 demacisaac: looking forward to it thnaks
22:05:59 carolteach4: Thanks, everyone.
22:06:06 SusanEttenheim: great carol! I've just been thinking of things like that this week..
22:06:18 SusanEttenheim: talk to you soon everyone - goodnight!