21st Century Learning #121
February 2, 2010
What does Blogging Look Like in 2010?
11:17:10 mrogge -> Testing.
11:17:58 mrogge -> lol
11:18:45 mrogge -> [b]Trying bold and[/b][i] switching to italics midstream.
11:19:50 mrogge -> *evil*
14:00:35 arvind -> hi folks!
14:00:58 arvind -> my sad Internet connection is crawling today. Hopefully my voice packets go through successfully when we start broadcasting
14:01:12 wstites -> What's todays topic?
14:01:54 alexr -> hey folks.
14:02:06 matt motagne -> hey all
14:02:10 matt motagne -> hey there peggy
14:02:27 PeggyG -> Hi everyone! has the stream started?
14:02:46 matt motagne -> i thik they are just getting revved up
14:02:56 alexr -> thanks.
14:03:00 alexr -> No stream started yet.
14:03:11 alexr -> Busy here.
14:03:21 PeggyG -> thanks--no problem waiting :-)
14:04:11 PeggyG -> be sure to watch the PBS Frontline Digital Nation show tonight at 9:00pm :-) many schools are planning to share it with students
14:04:24 arvind -> getting set up now folks. We're going to be talking blogging. WordPress MU, Posterous - the classroom implications
14:04:35 matt motagne -> btw, you guys have to check out ustream producer...very cool client application for webcasting to ustream
14:04:42 wstites -> I just got back from my second WordCamp...
14:04:55 wstites -> Went to one in NYC in the fall and just got back from Bosotn
14:05:05 arvind -> UStream Producer: http://www.ustream.tv/producer
14:05:11 wstites -> GREAT PLACE to go for WordPress knowledge!!!
14:05:12 PeggyG -> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/ The full video for Digital Nation is posted online :-)
14:05:24 arvind -> We sent our webmaster to Wordcamp NY. I was sad to miss it
14:05:39 PeggyG -> I installed the iphone ustream broadcaster and it's really slick!
14:05:42 wstites -> I migrated a number of single installs to MU recently too...
14:06:00 wstites -> plus wordpress 3.0 is going to join sinle and MU together
14:06:05 wstites -> same code base
14:06:17 matt motagne -> cool, Peggy...look forward to checking out digital nation
14:06:41 arvind -> @matt UStream producer pro seems really cool, unlimited cameras! I wonder how that works. We need a solution like that for http://www.tedxnyed.com
14:06:55 wstites -> We're self hosting our own server...
14:06:57 matt motagne -> arvind...it mite work
14:07:05 arvind -> @wstites looking forward to the forks merging back again in WordPress. We host MU 2.9 over here now
14:07:18 VinnieV -> boy, we just got the stream going, but the chat room is hopping
14:07:19 matt motagne -> you can have cameras all over the place...it is fantastic
14:07:31 matt motagne -> setup your different shots ahead of time...and then just control from producer
14:07:36 alexr -> @ arvind -- how's that update going?
14:07:45 arvind -> alex, it's done!
14:07:46 wstites -> @arvind... sounds like we need to find some time to get together again and share stories
14:07:49 matt motagne -> if you install producer you can demo the pro version with watermarking...
14:08:04 arvind -> @wstites I agree!
14:08:12 arvind -> @matt cool, I'm going to do that
14:08:19 matt motagne -> It took me about 90 minutes to kind of get familiar with pro...it isn't steep, but it isn't their web GUI either
14:08:30 matt motagne -> are we ustreaming??
14:08:35 matt motagne -> or shoutcasting??
14:08:42 PeggyG -> I'm hearing it on itunes
14:08:47 matt motagne -> k
14:08:49 VinnieV -> alex is working on it. But why let the show get in way of the chat going on
14:08:57 arvind -> haha, indeed @vinnie
14:09:01 wstites -> @VinnieV you going back to Memphis?
14:09:06 matt motagne -> hey damien
14:09:14 Damien Barrett -> Howdy
14:09:16 matt motagne -> exactly vinnie!!!
14:09:28 VinnieV -> @wsites I am. Threw five proposals against the wall. All five stuck
14:09:52 wstites -> hahahahaha... I'll be there too... have people presenting as well
14:10:01 PeggyG -> wow Vinnie!! amazing!! that's great news!
14:10:07 wstites -> I'm just going to be arranging dinners and cocktails
14:10:14 wstites -> if you wanna join us again
14:10:57 PeggyG -> oh no--now you have to edit the recording!! :-)
14:11:18 wstites -> Is there audio yet?
14:11:19 VinnieV -> My wife may join me. If we are invited, we would love to join you.
14:11:33 PeggyG -> tell us about your proposals Vinnie
14:11:36 wstites -> @vinniev - sure thing
14:11:53 PeggyG -> audio is on ETT A
14:11:58 VinnieV -> 1. Cell phones and mobile devices - the new computing platform
14:12:17 VinnieV -> 2. Google Earth and Google Maps - Visualizing
14:12:37 VinnieV -> 3. Professional Development - new ideas, borrowed from our show with Liz Davis
14:13:02 PeggyG -> those sounds great!! exciting stuff!
14:13:08 VinnieV -> 4. Rethinking Search - Remixing Joyce Valenza's K12 keynote
14:13:42 PeggyG -> what fun remixing Joyce's wizard of apps preso!! :-) would love to see what you do!
14:13:44 wstites -> First time I've had to use itunes to hear this
14:13:52 wstites -> UStream widget not working
14:14:15 VinnieV -> 5. Blended Learning Environments - Google Apps + Moodle
14:14:43 PeggyG -> we started our 21st century learning before the stream started :-)
14:14:58 arvind -> Peggy, that's a quotation to save!
14:15:13 arvind -> That's the definition of 21st century learing, no?
14:15:39 wstites -> I think blogging is comnig back because of social media
14:15:47 wstites -> particulalry the mashup site
14:15:52 arvind -> Interesting, how so, Bill?
14:16:02 wstites -> pulling Twitter, flickr and youtube together
14:16:14 wstites -> irishstudies.mka.org
14:16:17 PeggyG -> we're going to feature Chris Walsh's K12 online presentation on Moogpal in the next Echo show- Feb. 9
14:16:41 arvind -> What's a Moogpal?
14:16:47 wstites -> www.wamash.com
14:17:14 dbarrett -> All of these tools, mashed-up, or not, are ways for our students to have a voice. It's been proven over and over again that students who can see their writing published get more excited about the process and work to improve their skills....
14:17:15 matt motagne -> biopsych
14:17:36 PeggyG -> Moodle + google apps +Drupal :-)
14:17:41 wstites -> @dbarrett - That's what we talk about...publishing... voice of an author
14:18:38 wstites -> Our MS newpaper has exploded
14:18:39 PeggyG -> love the idea of a blog for student newspaper
14:18:43 wstites -> cougarcall.mka.org
14:18:54 wstites -> it's grades 4-8
14:19:01 matt motagne -> we've had great difficlty trying to get our kids to take their newspaper into a blog...they don't want to give up print...
14:19:02 VinnieV -> http://nsfirstgrade.edublogs.org/ - First Grade
14:19:22 matt motagne -> too bad our kids don't ahve to feel the economic forces that traditional print media is dealing with...
14:19:33 arvind -> if newspapers are going to be modern, they need to emulate what modern newspapers are doing: http://blogs.nytimes.com/
14:19:48 VinnieV -> http://www.dillerstreetjournal.com - Newspaper
14:20:04 dbarrett -> also, never underestimate the power of the human ego. Blogs and social networking sites like Facebook are ways for people to express themselves. If done tactfully, students can use these kinds of tools to boost their sense of self-esteem, etc.
14:20:08 wstites -> So... we have two foreign studies programs blogging, MS Newspaper, MS Head of Campus, community service project to S.America and a few more coming online shortly
14:20:23 wstites -> all hosted internally...
14:20:34 wstites -> going to link to LDAP to easily bring in users
14:20:39 matt motagne -> yep, Iagree arvind...I've found it a bit odd that our students have such an emotional attachment to print.
14:20:57 arvind -> I think the paper makes it feel more legitamate
14:20:59 PeggyG -> these links are great! thanks
14:21:00 matt motagne -> I've been thinking about starting up a competitor instead of trying to get our incumbent print paper to change...
14:21:15 dbarrett -> "emotional attachment to print"....I think that will change...is changing
14:21:18 wstites -> I think paper is good... but when students see the stats with the blogs
14:21:26 wstites -> and the reach... you forget about paper
14:21:28 alex.ragone -> here's my blog: http://blogs.collegiateschool.org/digitalmedia
14:21:30 arvind -> stats, awesome point!
14:21:41 wstites -> it's what's taken Irish Studies to the next level
14:21:42 alex.ragone -> First student post at top.
14:21:48 wstites -> World wide reader
14:22:00 wstites -> on the blog, Youtube, flickr and twitter
14:22:06 dbarrett -> paper publishing isn't going to go away completely, but it's clear that digital publishing is the future
14:22:10 matt motagne -> our students have been pressured so intensely to not be public as well...except for athletics of course [snarky comment, please excuse]
14:22:37 wstites -> we make sure that no names and pictures are linked
14:22:48 wstites -> but the stats cannot be ignored
14:22:59 wstites -> you may not get the comments, but the numbers don't lie
14:23:05 matt motagne -> @wsites...so do we ont he academic site...but on the athlectic side they can have names, videos, stats, pictures, etc
14:23:45 matt motagne -> oops, I'm trying to say that we have all these regulations on what can be published and how it can be published on the academic side, but those same types of forces arent' there for athletics
14:23:47 arvind -> we're revisiting the privacy issue - we think we may want to be more public, let the kids develop positive online reputations
14:23:53 PeggyG -> that's an interesting point Matt! why athletes but not academics?
14:23:58 arvind -> when you Google them, we want their accomplishments found
14:24:17 dbarrett -> @arvind, I think that's a very important skill to help them develop
14:24:19 matt motagne -> @peggy...I don't know...I simply don't get why ahtletics can celebrate their accomplishments but academics can't
14:25:24 matt motagne -> got to go
14:25:27 matt motagne -> bye all
14:25:30 PeggyG -> bye Matt
14:25:32 matt motagne -> good convo as usual
14:25:43 arvind -> thanks for being here, Matt!
14:26:12 wstites -> Other way around
14:26:18 wstites -> We are really private
14:26:19 dbarrett -> Privacy is a concern, but as long as there's some kind of adult monitoring, it shouldn't be a huge issue
14:26:19 arvind -> Here's our Art Club's blog, which rocks: http://gallery.hewittnet.org/
14:26:21 PeggyG -> your point is key, Arvind! want their accomplishments found!! academics not just athletics!
14:27:01 PeggyG -> I love seeing the student work on Kevin Honeycutt's Artsnacks Ning! Fantastic community!
14:27:04 wstites -> @VinnieV Are you still going to the concerts?
14:28:22 arvind -> http://posterous.com
14:28:26 VinnieV -> @wsites I do sometimes, when she let's me ! Going to see a few in the next months
14:28:26 arvind -> http://tumblr.com
14:28:31 PeggyG -> eportfolios are so important for the students!
14:28:35 arvind -> email@example.com
14:28:51 dbarrett -> Right...getting the kids to think critically about the content they are publishing is important
14:29:14 PeggyG -> and they need to be able to continue to access their eportfolio after they leave the class/school
14:30:15 VinnieV -> http://wallwisher.com/wall/testsite1
14:30:15 arvind -> Vinnie is talking about: http://wallwisher.com/
14:30:15 PeggyG -> I just learned about ipadio.com yesterday and you can upload/stream audio, video directly to blog posts--call in from your phone
14:30:24 alex.ragone -> http://wallwisher.com/
14:30:33 wstites -> Are the chatroom transcripts posted?
14:30:48 arvind -> So here's my new Posterous blog: http://arvindgrover.posterous.com/
14:30:55 PeggyG -> http://ipadio.com/
14:31:09 arvind -> I see it as related to my ed tech blog: http://www.21apples.org
but somehow more casual, and smaller, quick posts
14:32:00 dbarrett -> ah, Wallwisher is like a wide-open graphical wiki
14:32:13 dbarrett -> very interesting
14:32:15 arvind -> Wallwisher looks really cool!
14:32:16 Peggyagain -> I'm glad the audio keeps going even when my browser crashes!
14:32:52 Peggyagain -> Rodd Lucier also presented at Educon about ipadio :-) Great session on Banning Chalkboards
14:33:22 Peggyagain -> Jackie Gerstein used wallwisher for us during her educon presentation and both virtual and f2f could contribute
14:34:10 dbarrett -> There are a bunch for OS X also: SideNote, Shovebox, Evernote, etc.
14:34:10 Peggyagain -> Diigo lets you add sticky notes to websites :-)
14:34:11 wstites -> Stickies have been with the MacOS for YEARS!!!! I guess Windows is finally catching up
14:34:30 Peggyagain -> agree wstites :-)
14:34:35 arvind -> haha, no fanboys please :)
14:34:43 Peggyagain -> great links in the chat today!! thanks everyone!
14:34:47 dbarrett -> I think an EdTechTalk about the privacy issue, specifically, would be excelletn
14:35:07 wstites -> Is the transcript posted
14:35:09 dbarrett -> re: how do diff companies handle it
14:35:22 dbarrett -> and the legal rules: The importance of the age 13, etc.
14:35:25 Peggyagain -> sometimes pre and post conversations are even better than the show :-) but not today!! great show!!
14:35:47 wstites -> Thanks everyone... gotta run to a meeting.
14:36:05 Peggyagain -> that's a high risk behavior :-)
14:36:38 Peggyagain -> that would be a great conversation to follow up on Digital Nation--you can view it online anytime
14:36:50 arvind -> looking forward to watching, haven't seen any of it yet
14:36:53 Peggyagain -> the full recording is already online
14:37:00 arvind -> now to put it on my sticky notes :)
14:37:28 Peggyagain -> I put the link to the full recording for Digital Nation earlier in the chat
14:37:36 Peggyagain -> bye everyone! thanks!
14:37:39 arvind -> saw that @Peggy, thanks
14:37:43 arvind -> thanks for being here, all!