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On this episode of Teachers Teaching Teachers , we get together and talk about Youth Voices  with Alice Barr, Matt Montagne, Sandy Scragg, Sheri Edwards, Shantanu Saha, Valerie Burton, Chris Sloan, and Paul Allison.
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20:54:06 jonlong714: hello, i hear you
20:54:25 ShannonSullivan: I hear you too!
20:55:47 SusanEttenheim: hi all
20:56:38 SusanEttenheim: hi matt
20:58:00 SusanEttenheim: hi alice
20:58:20 ShannonSullivan: I can hear you.
20:58:59 SusanEttenheim: Hi Shannon I can hear too
20:59:38 SusanEttenheim: Hi Matt I can hear you all great
20:59:48 SusanEttenheim: Hi Sandy did you get the link to the hangout?
21:00:13 SusanEttenheim: Hi Jenna welcome!
21:00:33 Jenna Raygor: Good Evening, thank you!
21:00:45 SusanEttenheim: Where are you Jenna and what do you teach?
21:01:01 paulallison: Oh here you are.
21:01:07 SusanEttenheim: Hi Paul - I'm going to stay in the chat tonight
21:01:12 Jenna Raygor: Perhaps you could help me... I am trying to watch the EDTechTAlk video that is to be broadcasting right now, but can't seem to figure it out...
21:01:26 SusanEttenheim: ah I can help you Jenna
21:01:30 SusanEttenheim: hi Valerie welcome
21:01:43 SusanEttenheim: hi aloha welcome
21:01:58 Jenna Raygor: Please do! I have been trying to figure this out for some time now...
21:02:05 SusanEttenheim: Jenna click on the ustream link
21:02:10 ShannonSullivan: Hi there!
21:02:14 SusanEttenheim: hi shantanu!
21:02:15 Valerie Burton: Hello. I am cameraless :(
21:02:17 SusanEttenheim: hi peggy!
21:02:23 SusanEttenheim: hi eziegler welcome
21:02:27 Shantanu Saha: Hi there.
21:02:35 SusanEttenheim: hi honlong714 welcome
21:02:40 eziegler: Hi!
21:02:44 matt montagne: can someone give me an audio check via ustream
21:02:50 matt montagne: are you able to hear??
21:02:52 SusanEttenheim: matt you sound great
21:02:56 SusanEttenheim: everyone sounds great
21:02:59 matt montagne: thx
21:03:12 SusanEttenheim: I'm going to stay here in the chat and will help traffice :)
21:03:28 SusanEttenheim: Hi Sandy!
21:03:32 PeggyG: Hi-issues logging in1
21:03:34 SusanEttenheim: traffic
21:03:41 SusanEttenheim: Peggy?
21:03:53 Cindy: Hi everyone
21:03:55 PeggyG: look at you using GooGLE hangout!! fast learners
21:04:05 SusanEttenheim: Matt is good!
21:04:09 ShannonSullivan: I am here!
21:04:14 ShannonSullivan: I am 39!
21:04:17 SusanEttenheim: Shannon is here!
21:04:31 SusanEttenheim: Shannon do you have the link?
21:04:35 ShannonSullivan: no
21:04:38 Jenna Raygor: Anyone know how I can watch the live Edtalkchat that is to be taking place right now? I am very lost...
21:04:41 SusanEttenheim: tell Paul to look at the chat
21:04:44 PeggyG: for some reason when i type in this chat log it messes up my capitals--puts them in randomly
21:04:55 SusanEttenheim: hi fred hi db12181
21:05:04 Valerie Burton: Should I be in a google hangout
21:05:05 ShannonSullivan: a good gmail for me is firstname.lastname@example.org 
21:05:17 Valerie Burton: I am messaging on the edtechtalk site
21:05:25 Valerie Burton: should I be doing anything else
21:05:26 PeggyG: me too Valerie
21:05:27 SusanEttenheim: valerie yes I think they are expecting you in the hangout
21:05:27 fred haas: Hi, Susan
21:05:38 SusanEttenheim: ok who's stuck and not seeing or hearing?
21:05:40 PeggyG: hangout can only accommodate 10 people i think
21:05:48 PeggyG: hearing fine via ustream
21:05:50 SusanEttenheim: Shantanu is here!
21:05:54 Shantanu Saha: I'm here but I don't know how to participate right now
21:06:01 ShannonSullivan: I can see and hear but I don't think I can be seen or heard
21:06:07 SusanEttenheim: Shantanu are you connected to Matt?
21:06:16 SusanEttenheim: Hi jonlong714 welcome
21:06:28 SusanEttenheim: Paul are you looking at this chat?
21:06:39 SusanEttenheim: Matt - can you tell Paul to watch this chat?
21:06:51 PeggyG: that's the problem if everyone isn't in the hangout there are 2 different chat logs
21:06:57 SusanEttenheim: yup
21:07:06 SusanEttenheim: hi danielle welcome!
21:07:11 Danielle Beach: hello
21:07:13 SusanEttenheim: Is everyone seeing and hearing ok now?
21:07:21 SusanEttenheim: who needs help?
21:07:26 ShannonSullivan: Susan, any ideas? This is my 1st time using this
21:07:30 PeggyG: Hi matt1 see you waving :-)
21:07:39 SusanEttenheim: hi alice - can you tell them that shannon IS here
21:07:40 PeggyG: :-)
21:07:48 SusanEttenheim: and Shantanu doesn't know how to get in
21:08:18 PeggyG: how fun Paul!!!
21:08:25 cshidner: I tried to connect through the hang out but my McCarthy Alaska internet is too slow
21:08:45 SusanEttenheim: ah I've been wondering how the bandwidth is going to work
21:08:49 SusanEttenheim: in school
21:09:16 cshidner: Starting on Aug 17 I'll be able to join from Valdez
21:09:38 SusanEttenheim: cool cshidner
21:10:10 PeggyG: the pressure is on :-)
21:10:19 SusanEttenheim: haha can everyone hear?
21:10:24 Danielle Beach: Yes
21:10:29 PeggyG: yes-hearing fine
21:10:34 alicebarr: Susan I let them know in the chat
21:10:40 SusanEttenheim: thanks alice
21:10:43 alicebarr: Having a hard time doing 2 chats
21:10:44 PeggyG: Alice is giving her dog the "look" :-)
21:10:54 SusanEttenheim: I'm going to stay here in the chat so you can be our connector ok?
21:10:54 alicebarr: Oooo You heard them?
21:11:01 alicebarr: Hubby just got home
21:11:02 PeggyG: :-) heard them
21:11:03 ShannonSullivan: That would be great
21:11:04 Shantanu Saha: It seems that I have to install the Google Voice plugin but the installer's not cooperating right now
21:11:16 Cindy: Hello fellow EDIM514
21:11:19 SusanEttenheim: yes shantanu exactly but it's quick
21:11:25 Danielle Beach: Hi Cindy!
21:11:41 PeggyG: I love being able to see the people who are speaking!
21:11:41 Cindy: Hi Danielle!
21:12:00 PeggyG: Matt can you show the names below the images in the stream?
21:12:30 SusanEttenheim: wow Sandy - 2003
21:12:49 SusanEttenheim: I remember being inspired by Sandy's work years ago
21:12:52 PeggyG: Hi Monika :-)
21:12:56 monika: hello
21:13:05 SusanEttenheim: by the way, I just got a ustream ad so don't panic if that happens to you too
21:13:14 SusanEttenheim: the stream comes right back
21:13:19 ShannonSullivan: I just got that, too!
21:13:32 Danielle Beach: Wow 3 credits in 5 days, that's intense
21:13:44 SusanEttenheim: ok could we do come introductions here? I am at a high school in NYC
21:13:57 SusanEttenheim: please introduce yourself! Where and what do you teach?
21:14:00 PeggyG: Great to see you sheri!
21:14:05 Danielle Beach: I teach 9th and 10th grade social studies in Cold Spring Harbor, NY on Long Island
21:14:17 PeggyG: that was sign language at its best :-)
21:14:25 SusanEttenheim: welcome Danielle have you joined us before?
21:14:30 SusanEttenheim: so true Peggy!
21:14:47 cshidner: I'm Cynthia Shidner. I teach 2nd-12th grade G/T students in Valdez, Alaska and plan to use Youth Voices with my 10th grade English class
21:15:11 Danielle Beach: No, this is the first time. One of my grad classes this summer requires us to participate in an ed tech talk program or something like it
21:15:13 SusanEttenheim: welcom Cynthia ! What part of Alaska is that?
21:15:18 PeggyG: monika are you going to join the hangout so you can tell everyone about the Reform Symposium?
21:15:24 ShannonSullivan: I just started doing curriculum development this year, after a few years as a producer for nationalgeographic.com/education, and more years as a special educator & assistive technology specialist in Arlington, VA.
21:15:28 SusanEttenheim: ah glad you picked up Danielle!
21:15:33 monika: i could if they want.. we'll see
21:15:55 cshidner: Valdez is in Prince William Sound...east of Anchorage
21:15:56 PeggyG: she's smiling at you
21:16:17 PeggyG: yeah Sheri!
21:16:37 SusanEttenheim: shannon I get an error on that page
21:16:47 SusanEttenheim: picked us I meant :)
21:16:53 ShannonSullivan: on which one?
21:16:53 PeggyG: those ads are so random and annoying! are they every 10 minutes?
21:17:13 SusanEttenheim: they are annoying but at least they don't last long!
21:17:25 PeggyG: right-20 seconds I think
21:17:39 SusanEttenheim: yeahhh shantanu!
21:17:43 SusanEttenheim: you did it!
21:17:47 PeggyG: the more a person talks the more we get to see their talking heaD :-)
21:17:56 SusanEttenheim: haha peggy
21:18:10 PeggyG: :-) is that an incentive or dis-incentive???
21:18:15 SusanEttenheim: shantanu turn the ustream off
21:18:21 SusanEttenheim: hi jl welcome!
21:18:27 SusanEttenheim: matt is running it
21:18:32 SusanEttenheim: welcome!
21:18:38 PeggyG: Hi JL--just look at this group!! They're fast learners1
21:18:41 monika: ah wow.
21:18:42 JL: Delighted to see Team TTT in video action again
21:18:57 SusanEttenheim: full house tonight
21:18:59 Danielle Beach: Susan, what school in NYC are you in? And where? I am a Bronx native
21:19:04 PeggyG: it's all about the people! the introductions are great!
21:19:19 SusanEttenheim: wow I'm at Eleanor Roosevelt High School in Manhattan
21:19:44 SusanEttenheim: which part of the Bronx ... haha why did you leave?
21:20:13 SusanEttenheim: when did you live there because my school is relatively new
21:20:25 Danielle Beach: Throggs Neck, just like the bridge. I teach on Long Island and initially moved there, and now I live in Westchester
21:20:29 SusanEttenheim: Danielle which class are you taking?
21:20:31 Danielle Beach: I lived there until 2007
21:20:34 SusanEttenheim: ahh
21:20:48 SusanEttenheim: I went to Mt Vernon High School :)
21:20:59 PeggyG: I sure wish we could float the chat! can't get that feature on my Mac any more.
21:21:05 SusanEttenheim: but started first grade at Greenacres in Scarsdale
21:21:16 Danielle Beach: EDIM 514: Internet Tools for Teaching through Wilkes-Barre University
21:21:18 SusanEttenheim: neither can I Peggy
21:21:29 SusanEttenheim: and it's impossible to paste in or out!
21:21:34 SusanEttenheim: Hi Christina welcome!
21:21:36 PeggyG: exactly!!
21:21:52 PeggyG: Jeff are you thinking of changing the chat moduLE?
21:21:53 SusanEttenheim: ahh we do get Wilkes-Barre students coming all the time
21:22:04 Danielle Beach: Greenacres school isn't far from where I live now, I'm in Hartsdale. A friend of mine teaches in Mount Vernon High School
21:22:20 SusanEttenheim: Hahah yes! very close
21:22:27 Danielle Beach: Small world
21:22:40 SusanEttenheim: Peggy I wonder what would happen if we all moved over to the ustream chat?
21:22:53 SusanEttenheim: where did you go to high school Danielle?
21:23:01 Danielle Beach: Preston High School in the Bronx
21:23:05 SusanEttenheim: ahh
21:23:15 cshidner: I don't know if I can move over to the ustream chat
21:23:25 SusanEttenheim: Fred are you still teaching at VHS?
21:23:39 SusanEttenheim: I'm not saying we should... just wondering
21:23:45 SusanEttenheim: what do you think Peggy?
21:23:57 SusanEttenheim: what do you think jl?
21:24:19 Danielle Beach: Is anyone else getting an ad for Memphis the Musical?
21:24:40 SusanEttenheim: Danielle that happens don't worry the stream will be back in a few seconds
21:24:41 cshidner: Frustrating...the ustream starts and stops for me
21:24:54 SusanEttenheim: is it buffering?
21:25:33 fred haas: @Susan - Yes, still with VHS or whatever it will be called, although I believe my course is getting a reboot. I haven't gotten to see it yet.
21:25:50 SusanEttenheim: ahh what is your course?
21:25:51 cshidner: It just drops in and out...it will be easy to join these talks when I'm back in Valdez
21:26:02 fred haas: Screenwriting Fundamentals
21:26:07 SusanEttenheim: Ah that's good that you'll have another option
21:26:15 SusanEttenheim: ah - who is rewriting it?
21:26:29 SusanEttenheim: we have a screenwriting elective at our school
21:26:42 SusanEttenheim: so Danielle have you seen youth voices?
21:26:49 Danielle Beach: No I have not
21:26:55 SusanEttenheim: What about everyone else? Do you know what is being discussed?
21:26:56 fred haas: Well, we'll see. Really what they seem to be doing is picking one of the versions and running with that for allsections. I am not sure how it is all going to work yet.
21:26:58 SusanEttenheim: youthvoices.net
21:27:17 Danielle Beach: I'm interested in checking it out
21:27:23 SusanEttenheim: ah fred - yes I guess it's good that my class is only me and only one section
21:27:30 alicebarr: HAve you all seen the book Teaching the iGeneration? Some great rubrics for writing on the computer
21:27:46 SusanEttenheim: who else in the chat has worked in youthvoices.net
21:27:52 SusanEttenheim: thank you alice
21:27:54 alicebarr: WE are using it with teachers... Bill Ferriter
21:27:57 SusanEttenheim: ugh I have another ad
21:28:05 SusanEttenheim: did Bill write it?
21:28:07 fred haas: I have, thinking about trying to get involved again.
21:28:27 PeggyG: I see that premium members never see ads. Does that mean the channel needs to be premium or if I have a personal premium account on ustream I never see ads?
21:28:28 SusanEttenheim: hi Christina welcome!
21:28:35 Christina: Thanks Susan!
21:28:40 SusanEttenheim: I wonder Peggy - good question
21:28:50 alicebarr: Oh I have worked in youthvoices.net Our students shared some arteork
21:28:55 SusanEttenheim: Christina have you been here before?
21:28:56 PeggyG: I'll be back in 30 seconds--ad...
21:29:13 Cindy: Susan, I was wondering...I created an account yesterday, and signed in today for this live talk. I'm in, can see, hear, and do forth. How does one become part of the 'EdTalk'?
21:29:24 JL: unbroken Ustream for me. Just started simulcasting on Icecast - might work better for lower bandwidth connections
21:29:25 SusanEttenheim: Alice do you think your school might be in again this year? That would be great!
21:29:44 Christina: yes, Susan ... but thanks for checking.
21:29:46 PeggyG: Matt do the ads appear in the ustream recording?
21:29:51 Christina: ustream is cool :)
21:30:08 SusanEttenheim: ah Christina can you try that - did you see what jl just posted?
21:30:25 SusanEttenheim: ustream is working for me too tonight
21:30:34 cshidner: thanks...icecast works much better than ustream.
21:30:35 SusanEttenheim: but in the connection in Alaska...
21:30:44 SusanEttenheim: great! Thanks jl!
21:30:56 alicebarr: I was thinking I will work with the Creative Writing teacher this year. Maybe. I actually haven't talked to anyone all summer, but it's such a great way for students to connect I hope we can do it again.
21:30:59 SusanEttenheim: jl and peggy what should we do about the chat?
21:31:15 SusanEttenheim: Alice is there photography class there?
21:31:16 PeggyG: only JL can do something about it :-)
21:31:26 cshidner: my usual connection in valdez alaska will be fine...it's just that I am in a remote location in McCarthy for another few weeks
21:32:13 alicebarr: Yes we have Photo 1, 2 and 3 - Melissa
21:32:14 SusanEttenheim: welcome back fred
21:32:25 fred haas: Thanks had a little glitch there.
21:32:32 alicebarr: http://quadblogging.net 
21:32:37 SusanEttenheim: right Melissa was in before wasn't she?
21:32:41 alicebarr: yes
21:33:13 SusanEttenheim: I'd love to email her and connect
21:33:14 alicebarr: But she is now working with a class in China, so I will have to see. But maybe her colleague
21:33:27 cshidner: thanks for the quad blogging idea
21:33:32 SusanEttenheim: ohhh could we get the Chinese students to post in YV too?
21:33:45 alicebarr: Maybe! Also we have Japan with Sarah
21:33:50 SusanEttenheim: hi tengrrl welcome!you've joined us before haven't you?
21:34:03 SusanEttenheim: yes would LOVE to connect with Sarah
21:34:14 Danielle Beach: Has anyone used blogging extensively in a high school class?
21:34:19 SusanEttenheim: I have a lot of both Chinese and Japanese students so I'd really like to connect
21:34:22 tengrrl: I had to remember my password, so I must have been here before :)
21:34:29 SusanEttenheim: I do Danielle
21:34:37 SusanEttenheim: and I think many here do
21:34:51 alicebarr: @Danielle we have an art teacher that uses blogging for reflection
21:34:58 SusanEttenheim: sorry I forgot where and what you teach tengrrl?
21:35:40 Danielle Beach: How do you implement/incorporate it? I attempted it this year but it was met with a lot of resistance on the part of my students and administration. Any tips?
21:35:41 tengrrl: I write lesson plans and other educational materials for ReadWriteThink. It's a K12 site for English Language Arts teachers.
21:35:59 SusanEttenheim: ah welcome tengrrl!
21:36:03 ShannonSullivan: Hey! I love readwritethink
21:36:10 SusanEttenheim: fun to see the site - thanks Matt!
21:36:10 ShannonSullivan: I used to produce Xpeditions
21:36:13 fred haas: I have to say the UStream commercials that crop up are really annoying.
21:36:24 SusanEttenheim: they sure are fred!
21:36:28 Jenna Raygor: I agree!
21:36:38 SusanEttenheim: and you'd think you wouldn't miss much in 20 secs but you do!
21:37:07 ShannonSullivan: tengrrl, I use www.readwritethink  for students with disabilities ALL the time.
21:37:18 ShannonSullivan: Amazing tools.
21:37:29 tengrrl: I always find wonderful stuff on Xpeditions. Great things to support students there.
21:38:17 ShannonSullivan: thanks! I am writing a lot for PBS now. Fun.
21:38:25 Cindy: Is that Epals?
21:39:11 SusanEttenheim: Alice could you ask them if it's Epals?
21:39:17 Cindy: www.epals.com 
21:40:01 SusanEttenheim: thanks alice!
21:40:09 monika: some other good sites: generationon.org
21:40:13 alicebarr: :)
21:40:30 Valerie Burton: I forgot all about you all. Sorry for the feedback. I was trying to change computers.
21:42:13 SusanEttenheim: of the people here in the chat - are your classes working with students in other countries?
21:42:38 monika: i think they'd rather be in a chat like hangout
21:42:57 SusanEttenheim: than what monika?
21:43:04 SusanEttenheim: ugh I have one those adsa
21:43:06 SusanEttenheim: ads
21:43:17 monika: for a jump start... instead of writing only
21:43:17 SusanEttenheim: 20 seconds has never seemed so long!
21:43:22 SusanEttenheim: hi chris
21:43:30 Chris Sloan: howdy
21:43:31 Danielle Beach: No, I would definitely be interested in doing so but have no idea where to start to look. I am making a list of the websites mentioned in this chat to investigate further
21:43:40 SusanEttenheim: that looks great Alice!
21:43:52 SusanEttenheim: did Bill write it?
21:43:56 SusanEttenheim: Bill is great!
21:44:21 PeggyG: the reform Symposium Conference (free/online starts in 2 days) and would be an awesome way for people to connect with other educators globally. http://reformsymposium.com 
21:44:25 Chris Sloan: Yes Bill Ferriter wrote it
21:44:25 cshidner: Hello Chris! I'm listening in but I won't be able to join the conversation until late August
21:44:52 SusanEttenheim: great!
21:44:57 Chris Sloan: No problem Cynthia, glad you're here
21:45:06 Danielle Beach: Free and online sound right up my alley! I'll definitely check it out
21:45:12 Danielle Beach: Thanks.
21:45:46 alicebarr: I really like the way Bill writes his materials
21:46:06 SusanEttenheim: Bill does great work! We should invite him to have a conversation with us!
21:46:30 monika: duty
21:46:41 SusanEttenheim: sounds like this class assignment may be worthwhile for you danielle :)
21:46:43 alicebarr: I am sure he would love to.
21:46:44 ShannonSullivan: Is the expectation when students respond that they will also mention it? Should they say, "You have a good point, but what I was going for is..."
21:46:59 SusanEttenheim: He has joined us before but a long time ago :)
21:47:05 alicebarr: Cnn Student News might be a place to start.
21:47:08 fred haas: This whole idea of responding is always a serious challenge, even in online courses. I have found that it really takes a lot of time to nurture a culture of meaningful exchange amongst students that does not necessarily come naturally.
21:47:15 PeggyG: Bill is going to be an upcoming guest on Steve hargadon's interview with authors-had to reschedule it. http://futureofeducation.com 
21:47:24 SusanEttenheim: or the learning network on the nytimes!
21:47:26 Danielle Beach: Cnnstudentnews is a wonderful resource, I use it a lot in my classes
21:47:38 SusanEttenheim: it sure does fred!
21:47:47 SusanEttenheim: even in an online class right?
21:47:49 Chris Sloan: @shannon, a lot of my students directly quote from the post they're commenting on
21:48:21 Cindy: A good rubric can communicate to the students what is expected.
21:48:36 Chris Sloan: that's what some of the commenting guides do
21:48:40 ShannonSullivan: and @Chris, do they add to it? I wonder if teachers supply "starter scripts" for students, like
21:49:00 SusanEttenheim: yes Shannon we have about 50 of them already on the site
21:49:02 Cindy: perfect
21:49:08 ShannonSullivan: "I wonder if you thought about" or "This reminds me of..."
21:49:12 SusanEttenheim: or were on the site but need to just be put back
21:49:13 ShannonSullivan: I have to check those out!
21:49:14 ShannonSullivan: THANKS!
21:49:24 Chris Sloan: Paul's a master at thoughtful comment "scripts"
21:49:29 SusanEttenheim: the Spanish teacher at my school even translated many of them
21:49:37 ShannonSullivan: That is awesome!
21:49:46 ShannonSullivan: es muy bueno
21:49:54 alicebarr: http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-comment-like-king-or-q...  How to comment
21:50:02 SusanEttenheim: Shannon we kept adding to them as the need came up so we added responding to images etc...
21:50:03 Chris Sloan: one of my students starting communicating in Spanish because he was relaly trying to be bilingual
21:50:32 SusanEttenheim: and we were hoping to have Spanish classes using it... but never quite got off the ground
21:50:39 ShannonSullivan: @Chris, how old is this kid?
21:51:02 alicebarr: http://go.solution-tree.com/technology/reproducibles_TTiG.html  Bill's reproducibles from the book
21:51:04 SusanEttenheim: ahh Shannon... high schoolers!
21:51:35 SusanEttenheim: thanks alice!
21:52:02 Danielle Beach: Ugh is right, I have had a few students with that atitude
21:53:13 fred haas: That is a pretty awesome project!
21:53:29 SusanEttenheim: that is great!
21:53:48 ShannonSullivan: It sounds like a great way for the kids to feel valued for their voice(s).
21:55:39 Danielle Beach: Valeria makes an excellent point. I have many students who look at an assignment and judge it before determining how much effort to put into it. They seem to have a good filter for busy work; they would like to complete assignments that are valued and meaningful towards their education
21:56:31 Cindy: Absolutely
21:57:45 Cindy: I, too, want my efforts to be purposeful
21:57:47 monika: Gregory Hill just posted this.. about voice: http://t.co/5d55m4A 
21:58:36 SusanEttenheim: thank you monika
21:59:04 PeggyG: I purchased Bill Ferriter's book and it is fantastic. He has actually posted a LOT of the content online as PDFs.
21:59:05 Valerie Burton: There are links in the Google + chat that I will stick in here. I keep forgetting about you guys
21:59:06 monika: or is it just listening more?.. they are expecting guidelines.. but is that a good thing? do we need to give them space until they believe we want to hear their soul speaking?
21:59:17 fred haas: @Chris - You almost have to cultivate the network first, otherwisde who will respond?
21:59:28 SusanEttenheim: ah thank you valerie
21:59:53 fred haas: It seems like you need to accrue some followers
22:00:08 SusanEttenheim: fred one of my students woke me up last year when he said that we need to start at home
22:00:30 SusanEttenheim: learning how to respond and connect so I've been working a lot on that
22:01:05 alicebarr: http://www.amazon.com/Socially-Networked-Classroom-Teaching-Media/dp/141... 
22:01:17 fred haas: @Susan - That's great. In many cases students don't respond much to one another when they are across the room. I wonder about how much that changes just because of the digital environment?
22:01:32 Valerie Burton: Whoops. Can't copy and past
22:01:36 Valerie Burton: paste
22:01:47 tengrrl: A lot is going to depend upon how google+ connects to google docs and blogger and so forth.
22:01:51 SusanEttenheim: I think it's an age appropriate issue
22:02:05 tengrrl: The last I heard you had to be 18 to use it, so it's not really open to K12 yet.
22:02:23 ShannonSullivan: I cab't seem to access Google+
22:02:24 SusanEttenheim: it's not available to Google Apps yet either
22:02:32 SusanEttenheim: just consumer gmail accounts
22:02:32 Danielle Beach: I think students are more willing to take risks online; my students have expressed that they are worried about saying something wrong and being stared at by their peers.
22:02:39 tengrrl: right susanE
22:02:39 PeggyG: do you have an invite Shannon?
22:03:05 SusanEttenheim: Shannon are you using a consumer gmail account?
22:03:11 SusanEttenheim: I too can send you an invite
22:03:12 ShannonSullivan: no.
22:03:21 ShannonSullivan: I use gmail but
22:03:23 PeggyG: that's about when school starts up here in AZ too :-) Aug 10-15
22:03:24 SusanEttenheim: do you have a gmail account?
22:03:25 ShannonSullivan: with my site.
22:03:37 ShannonSullivan: So do I need to set a stand alone gmail?
22:03:40 SusanEttenheim: you do need to use a gmail account
22:03:43 SusanEttenheim: yes
22:03:51 SusanEttenheim: then any of us can send you an invite
22:03:55 monika: thanks guys..
22:04:04 Cindy: Even shy students will participate
22:04:04 monika: good stuff..
22:04:28 PeggyG: really great conversation and interaction tonight!! hangout provides a great support for this
22:04:33 SusanEttenheim: you know Cindy I had some who were more uncomfortable publishing online
22:05:12 Cindy: Avatars can help
22:07:01 fred haas: Thanks, all. I am out. G'night.
22:07:08 PeggyG: good night fred
22:07:54 Cindy: Thanks everyone...great first time experience with EdTalk.
22:07:59 tengrrl: these ads are absurd
22:08:19 PeggyG: great job Matt on the streaming! you're now our veteran streaming expert for google hangout ;-)
22:08:20 SusanEttenheim: night all - great conversation see you next week!
22:08:28 SusanEttenheim: yeahhh Matt!
22:08:49 PeggyG: Matt is talking and his image isn't at the top--know why??
22:09:28 PeggyG: maybe it's just a lag??
22:11:52 PeggyG: we have to find a way to merge the hangout chat and the ETT chat--missing out on a lot
22:12:39 PeggyG: yeah seEDLINGS!
22:12:49 alicebarr: Thanks :)
22:12:58 PeggyG: second Monday in September Seedlings will be back--new time
22:13:00 SusanEttenheim: love seedlings!!
22:13:05 SusanEttenheim: ugh another ad
22:13:08 matt montagne: thanks peggy...had a hard time monitoring this chat!
22:13:09 JL: we need to encourage hangout'ers to chat here
22:13:16 SusanEttenheim: for sure peggy!
22:13:30 ShannonSullivan: I hope I can join that talk next time!
22:13:43 JL: and remind people to mute when using onboard mic's
22:13:55 SusanEttenheim: jl let's figure this chat thing too!
22:14:01 PeggyG: think i figured out why your image doesn't come up when you talk Matt--it's related to your streaming
22:14:23 PeggyG: this has been fantastic!! thanks all
22:14:23 SusanEttenheim: night all thanks everyone!
22:14:34 ShannonSullivan: good night!
22:14:36 JL: Geez, this TTT crowd really doesn't do the post-show at all
22:14:44 tengrrl: it seems not
22:14:45 JL: must be really busy people
22:15:35 tengrrl: They probably needed to complete other missions this evening :)
22:16:33 JL: indeed. Nice to see you in ETTLand again tengrrl
22:16:37 JL: been a while
22:16:58 paulallison: JL That's why we're still married to the same partners after 5+ years of this :)
22:18:23 tengrrl: Okay thanks everyone. I'm off to write something for someone. Take care.