Alexander Hayes is completing a PhD on wearable technologies. He feels, in his words, that ”we are on the cusp of a substantial shift in how we consider wearable technologies likely in the next 6 – 24 months … there has been a discernible shift in the “heat” generated from major consortiums now bringing to market technologies that are pervasively poised to radically re-organise what is said, done, remembered and perhaps more importantly re-wired for other parties purposes.
“Google Glass provides us all with a reason to question what it will mean to be interacting with our peers, family and loved ones through the fashion filter of a networked and location aware device. Body worn technologies such as Memoto and Autographer also join the list of data logging devices that we use to monitor and transmit data from our daily activities, either for health awareness, entertainment or myriad of other reasons.”
In this session, members of Webheads in Action, TALO, Worldbridges, and affiliated online communities and thought leaders will discuss the benefits, risks and perhaps harm that may arise with the rollout of second generation intelligent (smart) wearable technologies in our society.
...presenters and panellists will address the implications of living in smartworlds - smart grids, smart infrastructure, smart homes, smart cars, smart fridges...smart people. ISTAS'13 will bring together participants sharing research, projects, and ideas about people living in smart environments.
May 27, 2013
22:22vance: hi nice handout
22:25Cristina Costa: hello
22:31vance: hi cristina, great to see you
22:32vance: shouldn't that be what's up doc?
22:33paul: hi jeff..looking forward to viewing one of these live
22:35kathy shields: good morning from georgia, usa
22:35vance: greetings
22:35Peggy George: Hi everyone! what a fun conversation for today!! Great to be here with you!
22:36Peggy George: Hi Jeff and Vance :-)
22:37kathy shields: I'm looking forward to this discussion.
22:37kathy shields: Hi Jeff!
22:37Peggy George: hope you have no issues with the time limit today. Our Teachers Teaching Teachers sessions often last more than an hour.
22:37kathy shields: I know, just doing lots of listening.
22:38Peggy George: the pre-show chats are always fun. :-) They're getting us warmed up!
22:38Peggy George: I'm just about to make my coffee. :-) Just waking up!
22:43Peggy George: why don't you all use Lower Thirds so we can see your names?
22:44Peggy George: Yeah! There it is Jeff :-)
22:45Peggy George: you can sit on a pillow Jeff :-)
22:45Peggy George: hahahaha!!! what an effect!!!!
22:46kathy shields: What is the hashtag for this chat?
22:46vance: hi Peggy / kathy
22:46kathy shields: hi
22:47vance: #glassage
22:47kathy shields: great thx
22:47Peggy George: Hi Vance :-)
22:47kathy shields: hahah
22:47Peggy George: glad you added those questions! They are great and will be fascinating to hear the conversation!
22:49Michael Coghlan: I would like to enter.....
22:52Peggy George: Hi Michael! Great to see you!
22:52Peggy George: Jeff will send you an invitation to join the hangout.
22:54kathy shields: Ray started the singularity movement very controversial no?
22:59Peggy George: I love having the Titanpad side by side with the chat. Great way to share resources!
23:00kathy shields: @ peggy, I had no idea, I could add to that! Thx.
23:00Peggy George: There's Michael!! :-)
23:01Peggy George: 7:00am now in Phoenix AZ
23:04Peggy George: yes Kathy. Anyone can add to the Titanpad :-) I often add the links that are shared in the chat so they become part of the Titanpad which can be exported to save for later.
23:04Dave Cormier: Hi Peggy :)
23:04Peggy George: thanks!
23:04kathy shields: I just added the definition for Cyborg Anth.
23:04Peggy George: no I prefer to be a "chat anchor" :-) Love it!
23:05Peggy George: always fun figuring out new tools! thanks for adding your name to your color. :-)
23:06Peggy George: that's quite a list of "terminology". This sounds like a graduate level class!
23:28Peggy George: as links are shared in the chat, Kathy Shields is adding them to the Titanpad on the left so we will all be able to export the document for later exploration.
23:29Nellie: The idea of wearing a surveillance camera scares the hell out me. :(
23:29Peggy George: Vance is adding too :-) love that you can see the colors!
23:29Nellie: Can such cameras be used to ward off terrorists?
23:30Peggy George: Vance as questions are asked in this chat will you be the "conduit" to ask them in the hangout?
23:31vance: all participants are following the chat
23:31vance: I thin
23:31Peggy George: but it's hard to talk and read at the same time :-)
23:31kathy shields: @nellie, you'd think that if alterted, all users could instantly send live feed to a central location
23:31Nellie Deutsch: I'm managing. I thrive on listening and chatting like this.
23:32vance: people at dmonstrations run live streams so if arrested they'll make instant record
23:32Peggy George: sure wish everyone could have gotten "lower thirds" working so we would know who is speaking. Such a huge help!
23:32vance: Thsi is Dave Cormier
23:32vance: Alex talking now
23:32Nellie Deutsch: Google wants us to be in its control.
23:33kathy shields: I wonder if using this device will build new neuraal pathways in the brain that will potentially make it more efficient and yet, may compromise ability when not wearing the device.
23:33Nellie Deutsch: I now have a car without a key for the ignition. It's weird but we get used to it.
23:33vance: Dave Cormier now
23:33Peggy George: interesting term! honesty pendant
23:34vance: now Nellie can find lost keys to her ignition :-)
23:41Peggy George: fantastic concept for language learners!
23:41kathy shields: metacognition, with physical reality
23:41mattias73: Long time EdTech Weekly listener here. Now working at the Centre for Learning and Knowledge Technologies at the Linnaeus University in Sweden.
23:42Nellie Deutsch: Will we all become publishers?
23:42Peggy George: Welcome mattias73!
23:42kathy shields: the swiffer, this is so fun
23:42Peggy George: very creative!!!
23:43Nellie Deutsch: I learn so much from chatting to myself. Imagine if I had a wearable gadget and I could transmit my ideas and thoughts without having to use the keyboard.
23:43kathy shields: i think we do take things too seriously and humor and ply allow for greater inventiveness
23:43Peggy George: scroll down the Titanpad to see the questions being explored
23:44Nellie Deutsch: Why concerns? Let's all get demos and share our experiences. I'm willing to be a guinea pig.
23:44kathy shields: How a person is perceived by others affects all people
23:44Peggy George: probably the same concern when students use recording devices such as Livescribe pens in classes--do you need the permission of the person being recorded?
23:45unnamed: I do like the swiffer
23:45kathy shields: visually perceived, is perception reality or is it more a reflection of the viewer
23:45vance: exactly, it will be impossible to control
23:45monika: who's the guy talking most - with the hat?
23:45Durff: so how many viewers between here, youtube, google+ ?
23:45Nellie Deutsch: Thank you, Alex.
23:45Durff: nice accent
23:45Peggy George: Steve Mann is the person with the hat
23:46monika: no - he just left.. the guy with the beanie
23:46monika: i think
23:46vance: That's Alexander Hayes
23:46Peggy George: sorry. Alexander Hayes
23:46vance: Steve had a meeting
23:46monika: thank you Peggy
23:46Michael Coghlan: Monika - the guy with the hat is Ale hayes
23:46Michael Coghlan: Alex Hayes
23:46Nellie Deutsch: I'd like to be part of a beta product. Is there a need for teachers in the classroom?
23:47kathy shields: perspective becomes layered, angled and creates a 3d persona, humans become larger in a way and overlap more, just thinking aloud
23:48Nellie Deutsch: Do you think the cameras will bring mankind a few steps ahead as far as attitudes to change?
23:48kathy shields: how will this change behavior in general, will people who have this tech become more powerful
23:48Durff: Big Brother is watching you
23:48vance: These are the right questions, and what the conference in Toronto is all about, nellie aren't you there?
23:50Peggy George: these glasses can't read your mind can they??? :-)
23:50Nellie Deutsch: North American culture or American culture?
23:50Durff: totally surprised that employers look at my CV and take the time to sent rejection letters - most ppl would be crushed
23:50kathy shields: @peggy, they may, in fact, like mood rings, you may be able to display your cognitive availability to others
23:51vance: hi lisa
23:51Peggy George: fascinating points being shared by Dave for Bonnie!
23:51Nellie Deutsch: Staring is very allowed in the Middle East
23:51Peggy George: wow Kathy!!!
23:51Nellie Deutsch: Italians in Toronto are allowed to look and even whilse.
23:51Nellie Deutsch: whistle
23:52kathy shields: @peggy, this is what I see as a plus for teachers and students, we could engage them when they are ready to be receptive
23:53Peggy George: really intrigued by Google Glass--what kind of battery life do they have? do you have to keep recharging?
23:53kathy shields: Can you imagine? We'd be much more effective as teachers and students as learners.
23:53Durff: what does that say about pedagogy?
23:53Peggy George: @Kathy amazing idea!! :-)
23:53Nellie Deutsch: Do you mean blockers?
23:54Nellie Deutsch: Can the cameras be used to cloak off others' cameras?
23:54Peggy George: Rob is doing some really creative things to push the window!
23:54Durff: in the K12 where I worked recording of anyone was verboten
23:54Nellie Deutsch: Is there a gadget to block out other cameras?
23:54mattias73: For ordinary use battery last around a full day.
23:54Durff: so our classes made permission forms
23:54Peggy George: thanks mattias!
23:54mattias73: But for educational use... probably would last less.
23:55mattias73: if you use hangouts and the camera a lot, say during several lectures during a day
23:55Nellie Deutsch: The question is whether there's money to be made from it? Will it bring in money?
23:56Durff: every new "thing" will make money
23:56Nellie Deutsch: Really, Durff?
23:56Durff: for a while anyway
23:57Durff: the initial gitz
23:57Nellie Deutsch: I'm interested in being able to get quality videos? Will these wearable gadgets answer my need?
23:57Durff: nice Euroipean accent
23:57kathy shields: It seem regardless of the challenges wearable tech present, it seems, the tidal wave is on the horizon, so duck and cover won't be enough.
23:57Peggy George: very funny Kathy, but true!
23:58Karen Scarlett: I am an artist and this could be an amazing tool for me!
23:58Durff: used in special ed?
23:58kathy shields: @peggy What CAN we do? Maybe getting our students to own this discussion.
23:58Nellie Deutsch: Teachers can stay at home
23:58Peggy George: Kathy you should be in the Hangout!
23:59unnamed: I could see them being used by aircraft mechanics and the like (Matt Montagne)
0:02unnamed: There is such a stigma about wearing technology that is visible--that seems like a large adoption barrier (Matt)
0:02Durff: life without friout - mmmm
0:02Durff: I live fruitfree
0:02kathy shields: popeye
0:02Nellie Deutsch: WT
0:03Durff: good point - invisible technology is preferable
0:03Durff: oh 6 mins?
0:03Peggy George: Matt you can change your name up above--right at the top :-)
0:03unnamed: Quite a few cyclists here in San Francisco commute with GoPro cameras on their helmets as a safety precaution - I could see google glass being used in the same way (Matt Montagne)
0:03Nellie Deutsch: can the cameras screen another camera
0:04Peggy George: I agree with the comparison to GoPro cameras
0:04Peggy George: woo hoo! Matt has a name now :-)
0:04Nellie Deutsch: They now have a blocking system for planes against rockets so why not a blocking system for cameras?
0:04Durff: indeed
0:04kathy shields: Jammers!
0:04Durff: digital blockers
0:05Peggy George: hahahaha
0:05Durff: as opposed to analog blockers
0:05Peggy George: great question! who actually owns the data?
0:05kathy shields: a whole new lexicon developing
0:05monika: or the tech/transparency frees us up to a culture of trust
0:05Durff: they will think they do
0:06kathy shields: ethics, can someone patent what I see/
0:06Durff: and if so, why not do it oneself
0:06kathy shields: Do I own my point of view?
0:06monika: the blur - of ownership et al - getting us closer to that point.. of trust
0:06Durff: or does Big Brother own our points of voew?
0:06Peggy George: @Kathy I hope Jeff will ask your question #11 in the Titanpad
0:07Nellie Deutsch: I would also like a blocker for google. Any glasses for that?
0:07Durff: nudge JL to ask #11 re ethics
0:08kathy shields: haha, yes, q11
0:08Peggy George: just because you are the "recorder" of the information/data does that mean you should own it? what about the subject being recorded?
0:08Durff: and why do we care who owns what?
0:09monika: yes - Durff - perhaps this will push us past that whole focus
0:09Peggy George: @Durff there are MANY people who care who owns what
0:09vance: who owns your gmail? Your facebook data?
0:09Durff: are we individuals or are we community?
0:10Nellie Deutsch: an attitude change may come in the future
0:10Durff: well I don't Vance - too much responsibility
0:10Peggy George: visit any university campus and you'll find almost all are concerned with ownership of intellectual property
0:10kathy shields: data ownership - data creation - data analysis -
0:10Durff: I think teens are already shifting focus
0:10matt montagne: google is pretty clear regarding data ownership - the user owns it. No whether or not you want to take that at face value is another question
0:10Peggy George: good point Matt
0:10Durff: oh thanks you had to tell me matt
0:11vance: but they own it for purposes of tracking your preferences
0:11vance: Eli Pariser etc
0:11matt montagne: vance, they can 'mine' it and use it, but they don't own it.
0:11Maria Droujkova: My teen is traveling right now... No, I don't know where my kid is.
0:11Durff: ah but the teacher can
0:11vance: good distinction, but can you as owner ask them not to use it?
0:12Nellie Deutsch: Maria, is your daughter still a teen?
0:12Maria Droujkova: young teen, yes
0:12kathy shields: @nellie has a great point, in some ways, a persona is ageless online
0:13Nellie Deutsch: I would love to do a paper on being ageless online.
0:13matt montagne: vance, I believe it depends on the service. eg, in gmail we get served ads based upon our emails mined by google, but we still own it.
0:19matt montagne: for sure...and that happens now with accessibility use cases
0:19Nellie Deutsch: I hope cameras and digital gadgets will be sewn into my clothes? is that next?
0:19Peggy George: I know someone who is legally bling who wears powerful glasses like those Rob showed us earlier and he is licensed to drive a car with them
0:19Peggy George: blind! sorry can't type!
0:19matt montagne: Nellie - it is definitely happening already at places like Burning Man :)
0:19Durff: now that would be fcool
0:19Durff: helping the disabled
0:20Peggy George: absolutely @Durff!
0:20Peggy George: the digital potential really increases the value of the device!
0:21Nellie Deutsch: technology can serve to kill/defend and to facilitate our lives. The choice is not ours.
0:21Durff: but why do we have to be careful?
0:21Nellie Deutsch: We do not control what governments and big businesses like google and facebook are doing
0:21Durff: why?
0:22Maria Droujkova: Nellie: We try not to discuss age online, because ageless is safer. So, online, my kid is always 21, pretty much. Has been since before we weaned.
0:22Durff: I am 3
0:22Peggy George: good point! though these can be used for positive purposes they can also be used for evil purposes--no background checks on people using them :-)
0:22Durff: :)
0:22Nellie Deutsch: Got you, Maria. My mom has told me the same off line.
0:23Nellie Deutsch: Will we be able to wash the wearable cameras?
0:23Nellie Deutsch: We can also implant cameras under our skins.
0:28Durff: there's that Big Brother from 1984 again
0:28Nellie Deutsch: Alex, how does an artist fit in with this kind of technology?
0:28Durff: every age has said "this is the revolution"
0:29matt montagne: I would like to think that corporations are benign and neutral - but they aren't. There are all sorts of corporate motives behind a product like Glass--he will take us some time before we are able to understand the motives.
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