19:01:03 AliceMercer : Hi Peggy 19:01:29 PeggyG : Hi Alice and Durff 19:02:11 PeggyG : are you streaming on ETTA? 19:02:14 Durff : hi ben 19:02:25 Durff : we will start soon 19:02:32 PeggyG : great 19:03:37 AliceMercer : We'll be up in about 2 min 19:03:45 Durff : sure 19:03:59 PeggyG : @Durffthanks for tweet about MSNBC article on gaming :) 19:04:34 PeggyG : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26271240/ 19:08:10 Durff : didn't we all start there? 19:09:49 PeggyG : start where? are you talking and I can't hear?? 19:10:11 AliceMercer : We're on UStream player 19:10:15 Durff : i meant gaming 19:10:15 AliceMercer : can you hear? 19:10:28 JoseRodriguez : Hi Peggy 19:10:42 JoseRodriguez : Were you able to hear audio on ustream? 19:10:44 Durff : sound is live on ustream 19:10:52 Durff : i confirmed 19:11:05 Durff : many times 19:11:24 PeggyG : where is the ustream? I'm on ETTA 19:11:38 AliceMercer : Box below in right sidebar 19:11:45 AliceMercer : are you on .com/live 19:12:07 PeggyG : noI'm on ETT chat 19:12:10 Durff : ustream Peggy 19:12:32 Durff : click the arrow on the big black window 19:12:48 Durff : hi again Peggy 19:13:00 PeggyG : found you and I can hear the stream now :) Thanks. 19:13:17 Durff : $5 19:13:33 PeggyG : do you take credit cards? 19:13:57 Durff : Lindens 19:14:11 PeggyG : don't have any lindens :( 19:14:54 PeggyG : Jose is doing the streaming? :) 19:15:10 JoseRodriguez : Alice get us back in the skype cal 19:15:13 JoseRodriguez : I did 19:15:25 PeggyG : no Alice for me eitherbut she's in the chat room 19:16:01 PeggyG : funny to hear a song about the sky :) my just turned black and winds are picking up! 19:16:28 PeggyG : Is that Tom talking now? 19:16:33 Durff : yup 19:16:50 PeggyG : think he was talking when we couldn't hear him 19:16:56 JoseRodriguez : We are back folks 19:17:04 Durff : :) 19:17:34 PeggyG : :) 19:18:01 PeggyG : oopslost the stream again 19:18:42 PeggyG : is Tom only on Skype? Don't see him in chat room 19:19:38 Durff : technica.l difficulties 19:19:42 Durff : stand by 19:20:00 PeggyG : will do 19:20:10 Durff : or sit by 19:20:20 AliceMercer : Brief break for technical issues 19:21:35 AliceMercer : Peggy can you check ETTA 19:21:43 PeggyG : sure 19:22:30 PeggyG : audio on ETTA 19:22:39 DaveC : yes ;) 19:23:22 Durff : ETT A 19:23:39 Durff : hi dave 19:23:42 PeggyG : is sim city web based or software? 19:23:43 Durff : hi paula 19:23:48 DaveC : hello all 19:23:50 Durff : software 19:23:55 paula : Hi 19:23:58 Durff : sound on ETT A 19:24:13 AliceMercer : HI Paula 19:24:25 paula : Hey, Alice! 19:25:05 AliceMercer : Hi paula 19:25:17 AliceMercer : Oh I repeated. oops 19:25:22 PeggyG : I'll bet kids find this really motivating! 19:25:29 Durff : they do 19:26:05 paula : not a probnew to this.. what are the blocks beside people's namesshows they're writing? 19:26:30 AliceMercer : http://tnturner.edublogs.org/archives/211 19:26:39 paula : Durff's pawn is redhe's talking? 19:27:18 PeggyG : She is the moderatorstarted the call/stream 19:27:30 PeggyG : boxes show who is typing 19:27:41 paula : thanks! 19:28:01 Durff : paula pawn? 19:28:12 Durff : i thought i was the jester 19:28:26 AliceMercer : http://tnturner.edublogs.org/archives/212 19:28:39 PeggyG : they do sort of look like pawns in chess :) 19:28:57 paula : there's a board type pawn beside each name. . . and I think you ARE the jester! 19:30:05 PeggyG : Wii has introduced a bunch of new games to expand the opportunitiesI'm just learning about those 19:30:38 DaveC : Gaming helps work with sequencing of events, trail and error, and logical order. 19:31:04 Durff : hey jen 19:31:14 JenWagner : Hey Durff 19:31:14 paula : trial and error is crucial for learningand the opportunity to take risks is also imp't 19:31:17 PeggyG : Hi Jen 19:31:24 DaveC : I use strategy games as a leadin for math open responses. 19:31:32 JenWagner : hey PeggyG 19:31:49 JoseRodriguez : Hi folks I am back 19:31:50 paula : Hey, Jen!, hey Jose! 19:31:58 PeggyG : welcome back Jose! 19:32:05 JoseRodriguez : It proves my point... Free wifi is better!!!! 19:32:12 AliceMercer : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26271240 19:32:21 JenWagner : brb 19:32:41 JoseRodriguez : my hardwire connection died on me.. I had to reboot my router 19:32:44 AliceMercer : Maria uses Webkinz with her kinder students 19:33:01 JoseRodriguez : my duaghters play club penguin 19:33:03 Durff : 20! 19:33:15 Durff : hi Sarah 19:33:20 JoseRodriguez : I have on Webkinz but have not ventured online yet 19:33:25 JoseRodriguez : Hi Sarah 19:33:28 AliceMercer : http://www.webkinz.com/us_en/ 19:33:52 Sarah S : Hello all. 19:33:53 Durff : Hi Sue 19:33:57 paula : we gave a place value assessment to our fifth graders, and the last question was what is easy/hard for you in math and what do you like about math. MANY kids said they liked playing math games but their understanding and problem solving on the assessment did not show the games they played helped them think mathematically. . . 19:34:13 Sue : oops O 19:34:18 paula : impt' phrase therethe games they played. . . 19:34:35 Durff : the research does not support that paula 19:35:03 Sarah S : It depends on the game is it just repetition, or is it challenging math concepts? 19:35:05 DaveC : @Paula: That's why I add reflection like questioning. The games are fun, but we want them to learn something not just try to win. So I include open responses. 19:35:06 Sue : Ooops I'm on a reall slow connection audio keeps cutting out so I may have to leave this chat..interested in staying as long as I can 19:35:08 paula : again, imp't phrasecoulda been time filler games. . . 19:35:18 AliceMercer : http://panwapa.com/ 19:35:31 Sarah S : It does take the reflection on the gameplay to make the most of the learning opportunity. 19:35:49 JoseRodriguez : haven't heard of panwaapa before. 19:36:03 Durff : me neither 19:36:20 PeggyG : can you turn the sound off on panwapa? 19:36:28 paula : I agree, it's often the conversations aroudn the games that are the most powerful! 19:36:30 Durff : probably 19:36:58 JoseRodriguez : I like the webkinz class pet idea. 19:37:00 paula : I'm interested in the followup to see what kind of games they like playing. .. 19:37:27 JoseRodriguez : not sure if it is webkinz is open in my district. 19:38:09 Durff : Miss Webkinz herself 19:38:21 Durff : i wonder how many she has? 19:38:22 paula : open in mine.. sorry for the noise 19:38:47 JoseRodriguez : noise? 19:38:58 DaveC : Back in the 80's there was a sim game called "Little Computer People" that we were all playing with in college. You had to care for these little "people" that lived in your computer, which included teaching them things. Although this was preinternet/onlinecollaboration. 19:39:12 paula : thought you guys heard the webkinz site music 19:39:23 JoseRodriguez : nope 19:39:41 Durff : it's in your head Jose 19:39:51 Durff : listen more closely Jose 19:39:56 PeggyG : sounds like the nano pets :) I remember those 19:40:19 JoseRodriguez : :) 19:40:19 Durff : nano pets? 19:40:32 DaveC : I think this was pre nanopets, but same idea. I'm thinking before the "PC" was in the home and people only had Commodore 64s. 19:40:37 Durff : do you have a link? 19:40:42 Durff : hi Jl 19:40:58 Durff : all hail JL is here 19:41:09 PeggyG : great success story with webkinz 19:41:25 Durff : i can't say that either 19:41:26 DaveC : Little Computer People isn't around anymore that I'm aware of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Computer_People 19:41:31 AliceMercer : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26271240 19:42:00 Durff : and who do you want doing surgery in YOUR brain? 19:42:43 PeggyG : chat seems to be lagging from audiosee comments before I hear the point 19:42:58 AliceMercer : Peggy, there is a 30 sec lag on ETTA 19:43:10 Durff : there is a thiry second delay 19:43:12 PeggyG : ohthat explains it. thanks 19:43:20 JoseRodriguez : That's why we have ustream :) 19:43:32 PeggyG : when ustream works :) 19:43:44 AliceMercer : http://www.timrylands.com/ 19:43:53 JoseRodriguez : ustream was fine.. it was my connection that didn't work 19:44:04 Durff : grade? 19:44:10 PeggyG : do the sims work on both Macs and PCs since they are software? 19:44:13 paula : what's that URL, Alice? it's blocked in my district. . I'm in my room 19:44:28 Durff : it's above 19:44:30 Sarah S : The Myst work with writing is amazing. Did you see the stats with that? Boys writing met Level 4's (out of 5) 100% 19:44:55 paula : I can see the URLwondering what it is. . . 19:45:11 Sarah S : It's been used in P2 p7 in the studies I saw. 19:45:26 PeggyG : I remember having Myst on our Macs years ago and they kept crashing our computers so we had to remove it. Sure it's improved now 19:45:37 JoseRodriguez : http://www.ltscotland.org.uk/ictineducation/gamesbasedlearning/index.asp has a good case for games in education 19:45:50 sheila : Hi all! 19:45:57 JoseRodriguez : Hi Sheila 19:46:05 Sarah S : @jose, that's the site with a bunch of videos on the Myst work they did in Aberdeen 19:46:23 JoseRodriguez : cool 19:46:42 PeggyG : hook is a great way to think about it 19:46:45 Sarah S : Aberdeenshire schools. 19:47:24 PeggyG : Excellent modeling of webcasting, Alice. I'm learning a lot from you. Like the wrapup. :) 19:47:39 AliceMercer : Wrap up is KEY 19:48:00 PeggyG : do kids resist the followup reflecting? 19:48:15 AliceMercer : Anyone interested in joining conversation 19:48:51 PeggyG : think I have an appt. with Durff & Lisa Parisi now. wish I could join you 19:49:11 Durff : not till 8pm 19:49:50 PeggyG : that's 5pm my time which is nowin 10 min :) 19:49:58 AliceMercer : There we go 19:50:15 PeggyG : living on the edge :) 19:50:55 Sarah S : Tom, do you have some good resources for ARG's at the secondary level? 19:51:20 Sarah S : Maybe something using cell phones or handhelds? 19:51:31 JoseRodriguez : ok gotta run....thanks folks 19:51:43 Durff : bye Jose 19:51:51 Sarah S : BYe Jose 19:51:54 JL : going to start an informal ETT planning session in a minute 19:52:04 Durff : sarah i did that today 19:52:26 Sarah S : Really, what? 19:52:43 PeggyG : Love the book Gadgets, Games and Gizmos for Learning by Karl Kappgreat rationale for games in classroom 19:52:46 Durff : polleverywhere 19:52:53 Durff : and gabcast 19:53:22 Sue : thanks all...good topic this week and I'm looking forward to next week! 19:53:24 Sarah S : Nice. I'm thinking about doing something that is an ARG somehow with a handful of kids who want to create one. It's a pipe dream at this point. 19:55:03 Sarah S : Augmented Reality Games? 19:55:06 PeggyG : Thanks Tom! Great information and resources. Can't wait to explore your blog. 19:55:23 Sarah S : Like something in real life using handhelds in the environment.