News, Resources, and Kathy Shields reporting on FETC
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16:54:29 Lisa Thumann -> Aren't you guys exhausted?
16:55:01 JenMad -> Hi! Thanks for joining us!
16:55:29 jepcke -> thanks 4 posting on twitter
16:55:34 randynobx -> hey all
16:55:58 randynobx -> Ed Tech Weekly starts in 5 min right?
16:56:04 JohnS -> yep
16:56:06 JL -> yep
16:56:12 JohnS -> We're just pre-show chatting now
16:56:27 JenMad -> Yes, ETW in 4 min 30 seconds ...
16:56:35 randynobx -> ok, thanks
16:59:19 dougsymington -> Hey all
16:59:27 dougsymington -> lol
16:59:40 Lisa Thumann -> Audio is fine.
16:59:43 dougsymington -> audio sounds lovely
16:59:52 jepcke -> audio sounds quite good
17:00:14 jepcke -> don't hear a buzz from Jen
17:00:14 Lisa Thumann -> Jen's buzz doesn't sound bad to me.
17:00:22 dougsymington -> Jen's buzz: 4/10
17:01:03 dougsymington -> consistent buzz is a good thang ;)
17:01:45 dougsymington -> still sounding good on ustream
17:02:33 dougsymington -> sound levels seems good, tho, yes, Dave *is* low
17:03:39 JenMad -> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kidsonline/?campaign=pbshomefeat...
17:04:12 Lisa Thumann -> I thought it was really balanced, but the PTO mom weas disturbing to me.
17:04:31 Kern -> @Lisa definitely
17:04:36 JL -> http://educon20.wikispaces.com/
17:05:08 JL -> http://www.coveritlive.com/ COVERITLIVE.COM - Home
17:05:39 jepcke -> But others CAN post
17:05:40 JohnS -> Social sites prove hard to leave behind : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7206852.stm
17:05:46 dougsymington -> @Lisa: disturbing and sad in that she doesn't get it as she alienates her children
17:06:06 dougsymington -> Hi ecram3
17:06:26 ecram3 -> hello
17:06:47 Gary -> He had a long story
17:06:50 JasonR -> But someone may the point that social network info can be spoofed. An employer that uses that could be liable.
17:07:00 Lisa Thumann -> @dougsymington And 50% of the school. That's entire other conversation. We should have talked about that more at Educon this weekend.
17:08:00 dougsymington -> think there are parallels and "clinging to power" that we see from institutions
17:08:05 dougsymington -> it's not going to work
17:08:06 JenMad -> http://www.ncs-tech.org/?p=1099 ... and ... http://ajaxim.com/
17:09:14 JL -> http://www.pangeaday.org/ Pangea Day
17:09:33 lee ann baber -> Wow
17:09:43 JohnS -> Gifted Education 2.0: http://giftededucation.ning.com/ Microsoft Innovative Teachers Network: http://us.itn.partnersinlearning.com/
17:10:10 jepcke -> do these links appear in delicious, too?
17:10:12 JasonR -> Oh joy. PBS/Frontline has moved to Flash dsitribution for video. I don't need WMP anymore.
17:10:28 JasonR -> If not child is left behind, no child gets ahead.
17:10:40 JenMad -> http://www.sparknotes.com/
17:10:52 JohnS -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080127
17:11:00 JohnS -> right, Jason
17:11:12 randynobx -> i LOVE sparknote
17:11:27 randynobx -> i use it all the time for high school english projects research
17:11:32 kjarrett -> Hi everyone!
17:11:43 sendkathy -> sparknotes helped me clep out of American Lit (2 semesters)
17:11:53 kjarrett -> My daughter has been using it for years in HS.
17:11:55 montagne -> I was going to say...is it anything different than what we did with encylopedias back in the day??
17:11:57 JL -> http://mashable.com/2008/01/22/skype-worm/ Skype Worm Causes Video-Sharing Shutdown
17:12:08 JohnS -> thanks for tweeting, doug
17:12:20 dougsymington -> pleasure
17:12:35 randynobx -> i think that video sharing component is the video sharing in the mood messages
17:12:38 dougsymington -> someone refused to skype with me this week due to fear o' virus
17:12:40 sendkathy -> I think Sparknotes is great, in fact I learned a lot about some of the books I had actually read
17:12:43 Kern -> $15
17:13:06 sendkathy -> jeff, I have skype pro but it's not very reliable or maybe its my network
17:13:25 sendkathy -> I have a number and supposedly I also have voicemail and its off and on
17:13:26 montagne -> I was on that test...it was good up to 10
17:13:27 Gary -> Also has a talk message feature
17:13:46 dougsymington -> still good for me on ustream
17:13:47 montagne -> audio good here...
17:13:54 montagne -> via ustream for me too
17:13:55 Kern -> ustream's fine
17:14:10 sendkathy -> Doug I'm listening on uStream but is it also on itunes?
17:14:11 montagne -> new ustream UI is nice
17:14:13 kristianstill -> another vote ok for ustream
17:14:14 montagne -> I agree
17:14:20 dougsymington -> believe so
17:14:22 Kern -> Who's computer is showing the ustream - Jeff's ?
17:14:25 JohnS -> College textbook prices up 186% since 1986; enter revolution: http://businessshrink.biz/psychologyofbusiness/2008/01/22/college-textbo...
17:14:28 JL -> yep
17:14:32 Kern -> thnx
17:14:40 montagne -> I'm tired of textbook companies...
17:14:42 JasonR -> So you guys aren't even streaming on EdTechTalk-A now?
17:14:47 montagne -> they're ridiculous...
17:14:49 lee ann baber -> So what did you all suggest for skype pro//buy or no?
17:14:49 JL -> nope
17:14:58 jepcke -> Do they even USE the textbooks?
17:15:00 lee ann baber -> no not a
17:15:05 JL -> if you're going to use the skpye out feature, yes
17:15:11 JL -> if not, probably not worth it
17:15:11 dougsymington -> I got it for the call out and voicemail
17:15:12 lee ann baber -> I do
17:15:16 lee ann baber -> right
17:15:22 sendkathy -> I'm hoping it gets better. I will keep it. Lee it may just be comcast that is causing my problems
17:15:37 montagne -> that DRM story is ridiculous...
17:15:45 JL -> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/allfeatures/skypepro/
17:15:51 sendkathy -> I have a wifi phone and a USB phone and neither have good quality, better with headphones
17:15:51 montagne -> California Open Text book project...
17:15:53 Gary -> Buy pro and "share" it with your children who are away at university - the text books prices justify that
17:16:08 JenMad -> http://estore.e-academy.com/index.cfm?loc=estore/soft_browse/listing&ID_...
17:16:22 montagne -> I agree...down w/ books that have dozens of errors anyway...if not more
17:16:41 montagne -> open source textbook movement hopefully will flourish...
17:16:57 techieteacher -> you can loan SPSS for cheaper..i saw that recently on del.icio.us..a few educators are doing that
17:17:10 montagne -> Wow...
17:17:14 techieteacher -> $75 for 6 months i believe for SPSS
17:17:35 jepcke -> we used SPSS for 'free' on the university computers
17:17:38 sendkathy -> If you can believe it I actually had to buy a book that was a collection of edtech articles. They were already a year out of date
17:17:56 techieteacher -> yep..most big universities have it for education school labs
17:17:59 kristianstill -> Why have book when McDonalds now offers its own nationally recognised qualifications. (UK)
17:18:23 lee ann baber -> because its a racket
17:18:27 lee ann baber -> why else
17:18:27 dougsymington -> the education wants to be free
17:18:30 lee ann baber -> :)
17:18:32 montagne -> how many textbook companies are left in the USA?
17:18:34 jepcke -> online learning is a better deal
17:18:35 lee ann baber -> Because they can
17:18:37 montagne -> not many
17:18:39 Kern -> Because education is where the $$ is ;-)
17:18:47 montagne -> teachers get addicted to textbooks...
17:18:51 lee ann baber -> dad's money! big business
17:18:55 montagne -> and won't give them up...
17:18:55 jepcke -> love the name 'currici wiki'
17:19:02 Gary -> High school text books are just as expensive - a terrible cost when a new curriculum is started
17:19:11 JL -> http://teachweb2.wikispaces.com/
17:19:24 lee ann baber -> where do you see him screaming john
17:19:39 JasonR -> $100 textbooks will be replaced by $100 limited-time access fee to proprietary CMS
17:19:43 JohnS -> The "Google generation" not so hot at Googling, after all: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080118-the-google-generation-not-...
17:19:44 JasonR -> Go Florida!
17:20:06 sendkathy -> i c
17:20:12 montagne -> not surprising...
17:20:19 kristianstill -> Our students have yet to learn how to learn / filter
17:20:25 montagne -> I thought they were digital natives??
17:20:30 Kern -> making a myspace is not a skill
17:20:37 montagne -> @Kern...bingo
17:20:37 jepcke -> saw that article, probably were never taught how to be effective searchers
17:20:49 Kern -> copy - paste, copy - paste
17:20:58 JasonR -> Isn't that the appeal of myspace, it requires no skill
17:21:06 JenMad -> http://www.khanacademy.org/authenticate.jsp
17:21:16 jepcke -> many teacher don't know how to search effectively either
17:21:34 JasonR -> Google is not smart enough
17:21:38 montagne -> is it free?
17:21:41 JL -> http://www.langwitches.org/blog/2008/01/24/power-of-social-networking/
17:22:24 JenMad -> the math videos are free ...
17:22:29 Kern -> neat idea
17:22:54 JohnS -> White Paper Podcast: http://www.apc.com/podcast/wp/index.cfm
17:22:56 chellouise -> I made it today! WOW. :)
17:23:16 lee ann baber -> yea... a mention.. :)
17:23:16 JasonR -> The technique won't be a surprise, but you can pic novel images that will still require the networking skill
17:23:28 lee ann baber -> its a really good podcast!
17:23:46 lee ann baber -> selectively
17:23:51 JenMad -> http://www.cutepdf.com/
17:24:12 lee ann baber -> i use it
17:24:13 lee ann baber -> also
17:24:21 lee ann baber -> its nice to use
17:24:28 dougsymington -> big fan o' cutepdf
17:24:34 Kern -> I used to - I've found www.primopdf.com better
17:24:42 chellouise -> used it in my grad classes. Students liked it!
17:24:46 wcgaskins -> big fan of cutepdf
17:25:00 JenMad -> great! glad to hear it works!
17:25:01 lee ann baber -> nice to know ... thanks john
17:25:03 Gary -> On a Mac - print and save as a PDF - for free!
17:25:05 chellouise -> get a mac, then you don't have to wrorry about it. LOL!
17:25:09 dougsymington -> woohoo something that works "out of the box" with Vista!
17:25:21 chellouise -> FETC was awesome!
17:25:23 JL -> http://www.fetc.org/
17:25:30 [Action] JasonR -> missed FETC
17:25:58 chellouise -> I got into one that was questionable....not too helpful really.
17:26:28 chellouise -> Alan November drew HUGE crowds....imagine that.
17:27:38 JL -> http://www.langwitches.org/blog/2007/11/09/teddy-bears-around-the-world-...
17:27:47 JenMad -> ooo! 2 for langwitch.com !!! yeah!!
17:27:56 chellouise -> I'll go with you!
17:28:42 JenMad -> all of our links (plus more) for this week are at http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080127
17:29:10 kjarrett -> Bonnie Bracey RULES!
17:29:17 JenMad -> to add a link for NEXT week, add a tag for your link of "for:edtechtalk"
17:29:20 dougsymington -> @sendkathy -- Bill (think it was) was great and the anecdotes re his students
17:30:08 JohnS -> We're on at this time again next week because of the super bowl, and then back to our normal time (2 hours later) the following week.
17:30:23 jepcke -> Go Giants
17:30:28 chellouise -> so it'll be at 4 CST again next week?
17:30:49 chellouise -> great update KAthy!
17:30:58 lee ann baber -> yea for educon
17:31:02 sendkathy -> ok
17:31:07 sendkathy -> I will stay muted
17:31:10 JohnS -> Photo Clues Lead to Camera's Owner: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080125/ap_on_hi_te/missing_camera_quest
17:31:12 sendkathy -> and check my links
17:31:52 sendkathy -> hey like the one that was stolen from me at NECC but they didn't return mine
17:31:59 chellouise -> neat story
17:32:08 JenMad -> very cool story!
17:32:13 sendkathy -> www.googleearthgoods.pbwiki.com
17:32:36 dougsymington -> now there's a good Web 2.0 story
17:32:54 sendkathy -> http://fcit.usf.edu has lots of resources
17:33:00 chellouise -> that would be a neat thing to do with a class....kind of a mystery solve it project! Hmm...
17:33:18 JohnS -> right -- very cool
17:33:37 sendkathy -> a cool project, not too expensive and out of a university is: www.e-missions.net
17:33:41 lee ann baber -> 320,000,000
17:33:46 wcgaskins -> Put that link back up please
17:34:01 chellouise -> WOW! 320,000,000
17:34:02 lee ann baber -> Whos hosting the super bowl party
17:34:02 sendkathy -> They take your kids on a mission simulation and it is so much fun
17:34:11 dougsymington -> Super Sunday--wooohooooo
17:34:15 JL -> http://www.tweetscan.com/ Tweet Scan
17:34:34 jepcke -> Pats cost me some money last week so rooting for Giants
17:34:41 JenMad -> 3,269 links our del.icio.us folder ... w00t!!!
17:34:59 JenMad -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk
17:35:04 chellouise -> @JenMad started doctoral work?
17:35:22 lee ann baber -> btw.. i copied and saved the very exciting chat log from a sessoin this morning at the educon..during the panel
17:35:22 JohnS -> How to Tell If You Are Addicted to Technology: http://www.livescience.com/technology/080125-tech-addicts.html
17:35:24 JenMad -> @chellouise: yes! started last week! thanks!
17:35:27 lee ann baber -> any suggesitons where to put it
17:35:38 chellouise -> best of luck! I'm still searching.
17:35:46 lee ann baber -> doug and i put the other ones on the wikis for those sessons but there was no wiki for that session
17:35:54 sendkathy -> Is there a cure Doug?
17:35:58 lee ann baber -> I am
17:36:09 chellouise -> I know I'm addicted!
17:36:13 dougsymington -> golf
17:36:19 lee ann baber -> i am neglecting everything else.. :)
17:36:24 sendkathy -> I think it is complusive but maybe it can be cured by time management!
17:36:29 JenMad -> I am REALLY addiicted ... NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!
17:36:30 jepcke -> yes, yes, yes
17:36:30 sendkathy -> me too
17:36:38 lee ann baber -> SAD but true
17:36:42 chellouise -> LOL! Am I supposed to clean my house and take care of my family? LOL!
17:36:45 jepcke -> Hi, my name is Judi and I'm a tech addict
17:36:49 lee ann baber -> no i am not even sad about it
17:36:57 chellouise -> Is there a 12 step plan?
17:37:06 sendkathy -> That is why I have been avoiding twitter but now... I have fallen in that hole too
17:37:20 lee ann baber -> yes... step 1 buy another laptop
17:37:21 JasonR -> This just came up in my feed reader: "Teacher's Productivity Hampered by technology" http://www.43folders.com/forum/2008/01/27/teachers-productivity-hampered...
17:37:32 JL -> If anyone would like to chime in on this, feel free to skype 'worldbridges'
17:37:33 sendkathy -> Maybe there should be a technoaddict ning
17:37:33 chellouise -> @sendkathy is this your Twitter name too?
17:37:36 jepcke -> falling through the twitter hole
17:37:43 JL -> Basic Twitter badges http://twitter.com/badges/
17:37:45 sendkathy -> yes, its sendkathy
17:37:48 Gary -> What is needed is an on-line service for your addiction
17:37:55 sendkathy -> Thanks JL!
17:37:57 JasonR -> http://www.43folders.com/forum/2008/01/27/teachers-productivity-hampered...
17:38:00 chellouise -> mind if I add you to my network?
17:38:03 sendkathy -> Feeding my addiction!
17:38:29 dougsymington -> I've recently fallen into the handheld (blackberry) trap--now I take it with me
17:38:50 lee ann baber -> especially when homework is over my head all the time... hard to resist gazing at data
17:38:51 dougsymington -> was playing with Skype for blackberry earlier today
17:39:07 dougsymington -> so sign me up when the interventions are happening, I guess ;)
17:39:17 chellouise -> son on Webkinz and me at EdTech Weekly
17:39:31 lee ann baber -> my husband lives by himself... *)
17:39:45 sendkathy -> Someone who would be good to interview is Bill Moredock, former CEO of (I forget) he is a tech teacher in MS and shows the kids how to build their own computers out of all the leftover materials they have, plus NASA simulations he's very type A technology
17:39:47 JohnS -> *laugh*
17:40:19 lee ann baber -> it is fun to be off line and more so since archiving has become more a rule than the exception
17:40:59 lee ann baber -> we are starting to pick up teh skill to handle that so we do have a collective work crew
17:41:00 sendkathy -> Silvia Tolisano's Bear trips www.sjeds.com/blog/china
17:41:09 chellouise -> living in the midwest, I like the fact that I can talk with people who know more than those around me
17:41:24 sendkathy -> www.sjeds.com/blog/global_studies
17:41:29 lee ann baber -> nawww
17:41:32 dougsymington -> as long as there is some semblence of balance
17:41:51 JasonR -> @sendkathy Har!
17:41:53 dougsymington -> look at how much people enjoy meeting f2f after becoming friends here
17:42:05 sendkathy -> Har! Har! ?
17:42:17 JasonR -> Like LOL but on the inside
17:42:20 lee ann baber -> it seems friends do not really like to meet so much anymore .. everyoine is finding time to be less available..so it is natural to go to our networks
17:42:24 sendkathy -> LOL
17:42:42 kristianstill -> Did you guys get the UK article about McD's
17:42:43 kristianstill -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/education/7211958.stm
17:43:09 chellouise -> kathy's busy laughing. :)
17:43:23 dougsymington -> disagree John--that's exactly when you should use tech, when it makes sense for the task at hand
17:43:34 dougsymington -> showing tech, I'm assuming
17:43:47 sendkathy -> So it's a good thing as Martha would say
17:44:06 sendkathy -> who is doing it?
17:44:19 sendkathy -> the new show?
17:44:23 chellouise -> is there a Webcast Academy chat tonight?
17:44:56 JL -> http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/765
17:44:56 chellouise -> I'm supposed to be an intern...but I haven't started at all. oops
17:44:58 sendkathy -> Great hearing your voices and seeing your posts!
17:45:12 dougsymington -> that's too good
17:45:14 sendkathy -> Chellouise
17:45:21 sendkathy -> maybe we should do a show?
17:45:21 chellouise -> yes kathy?
17:45:32 wcgaskins -> Thanks everyone bye
17:45:32 JasonR -> UTC
17:45:37 sendkathy -> I'm an unfinished intern
17:45:37 chellouise -> that would be fun!
17:45:48 sendkathy -> [email protected]
17:45:50 dougsymington -> go on SL time--that way it can be light or dark
17:46:08 chellouise -> thanks! I'll get in touch.
17:46:19 sendkathy -> great!
17:46:22 JasonR -> They call it summer
17:46:26 montagne -> sumer
17:46:32 montagne -> that is what I thought
17:46:40 chellouise -> because of the closeness of the sun to them and not us
17:46:43 sendkathy -> I think its getting deep now
17:46:46 Gary -> and make it digital so we don't really have the analog connection to the earth's rotation. Please no!
17:46:53 sendkathy -> deeeper
17:47:18 JasonR -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time
17:47:22 Gary -> Might be fine for those who are addicted to technology
17:47:31 JL -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_map
17:47:38 sendkathy -> This is funny
17:47:44 JasonR -> http://images.google.com/images?q=upside+down+map&hl=en&client=firefox-a...
17:47:50 sendkathy -> Really I never thought about flipping the globe!
17:47:57 sendkathy -> I am so backward
17:48:06 JasonR -> http://www.public.asu.edu/~aarios/resourcebank/maps/page3.html
17:48:08 chellouise -> i'm going to have to flip the globe upside down at work tomorrow!
17:48:18 sendkathy -> me too, see if the kids notice
17:48:29 chellouise -> It figures, I missed that too! (webcast academy)
17:48:38 chellouise -> chellylouise
17:48:40 JasonR -> It is arbitrary and somewhat imperial that the continents on the north side ar also on top
17:48:42 sendkathy -> When is the next skype intern chat
17:48:43 JenMad -> btw: thank you to everyone for joining us early this week!
17:48:51 sendkathy -> I guess I should consult the calendar eh?
17:48:52 chellouise -> that's my Skype name: chellylouise
17:48:54 JenMad -> it was all my fault ...
17:48:59 JasonR -> All the colonized continents are on the bottom...conicidence?
17:49:11 sendkathy -> LOL
17:49:18 dougsymington -> maybe the videos are stuck in the tubes
17:49:23 dougsymington -> on the way, that is
17:49:23 JohnS -> like the united states, jason?
17:49:40 JasonR -> We are a colonizing country
17:49:46 sendkathy -> Are we supposed to be depressed about now, thanks for reminding us Jen!
17:50:27 dougsymington -> I'm up to 27 days with my pics, props to dnorman for the concept
17:50:51 sendkathy -> I met a Canadian at FETC, Leslie Snyder in AB
17:50:59 chellouise -> 'bye Jen!
17:50:59 sendkathy -> I told her about EdTech Talk
17:51:24 sendkathy -> Thank you!
17:51:29 dougsymington -> cya later
17:51:32 sendkathy -> By from down under
17:51:36 chellouise -> anybody think the security at Orlando was NUTS?
17:51:42 Gary -> Thanks again
17:51:44 sendkathy -> was it?
17:51:45 chellouise -> cya all later
17:51:52 sendkathy -> bye
17:52:03 JL -> Thanks all - bye
18:01:11 sgaer -> Hi did I miss the chat?
18:02:08 sgaer -> I guess I did.