IHAQ#4 - K-12 MOOC's: Possibilities and Challenges

I Have a Question#4
April 27, 2014

Featured Question: From +Paul Allison
What would a K-12 MOOC have in it? What connections would it nurture?
Would teachers codesign it with students? Do they exist?

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I'm sure Verena Roberts will be interested in that topic!! :-)
7 days ago
Cathy Evanoff
Hello all!
10 hours ago
Hey Folks
10 hours ago
Hi Cathy
10 hours ago
Peggy George
Hi Cathy! How great to see you!!!
10 hours ago
Peggy George
Hi Jose!
10 hours ago
and Peggy
10 hours ago
Peggy George
slowly the gang is regrouping and reconnecting :-) love it!
10 hours ago
Welcome to the club Paul...
10 hours ago
a trying school year :)
10 hours ago
I agree... Windows not that cool
10 hours ago
Peggy George
always great to be in sessions with you Paul!!!
10 hours ago
I heard something about Windows 8.
10 hours ago
I´m reading Graham Stanley´s blog post on Sugata right now
10 hours ago
Greetings all.
10 hours ago
Hi Jeff.. Dave.. Paul
10 hours ago
and meditating as well
10 hours ago
Hi Carol
10 hours ago
and Maria
10 hours ago
Hola Jose ..
10 hours ago
Hola
10 hours ago
saludos desde Los Angeles
10 hours ago
I thought I saw a tweet from Bon Stewart about talking K12 and MOOCs. Am in the right place?
10 hours ago
Hi Ben.
10 hours ago
Yes Ben welcom
10 hours ago
*welcome
10 hours ago
Hi! It's been a while... but I'm happy to be here tonight. Glad I'm still on your radar Jeff.
10 hours ago
Greeting Jose!
10 hours ago
Loved your flick, Dave ... Oscar rocks as a filmmaker!
10 hours ago
Hi Kathy..
10 hours ago
Hi Jose
10 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
I want to know about Oscar
10 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
and filmmaking?
10 hours ago
Peggy George
Hi Kathy and Carol :-)
10 hours ago
Hi Peggy
10 hours ago
And Hi to Cathy
10 hours ago
So my question is, does Sal Kahn have anything good to offer that could be configured within a K12 MOOC>
10 hours ago
Oscar made a cool stop motion film of some lego chsracter seeking lobster as a reward after slaying a monster ;)
10 hours ago
Peggy George
I haven't seen that! I'm sure it's amazing!
10 hours ago
I was pleased to see Stephen Hurley share a new website for Canadian educators http://standingintheway.ca
10 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
yes, it was VA
9 hours ago
Hi, folks ... sorry I was late ... crash and reboot :)
9 hours ago
What if there was an ability to self select a MOOC in HS as an elective, an independent study.
9 hours ago
Hi Jennifer
9 hours ago
and John
9 hours ago
Hi, Carol et al. ;)
9 hours ago
Can't MOOCs be used to connect classrooms, objectives, cultures, etc.?
9 hours ago
The problem is calling it a "MOOC". :)
9 hours ago
@benjamin ... that is why I like you :)
9 hours ago
From a US perspective, I'm wondering if a cMOOC may allow more flexibility for teachers to co-construct a course environment that is Common Core friendly.
9 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
Blended Learning
9 hours ago
I agree @Benjamin
9 hours ago
If folks do not think a MOOC is a K-12 model ... what could be done to prepare that demographic for a MOOC. or MOOC-like environment?
9 hours ago
Why not a MOOC genius hour type class?
9 hours ago
and Dave just skirted around a suggestion for that ...
9 hours ago
What are the measures for whether or not it works?
9 hours ago
Trying to figure out how a teacher can model self-directed learning for pupils to grasp making those connections but also, for the instructor, to cover everything else that matters for the assessments. Keeping in mind these assessment may not be cMOOC friendly depending on what Pearson has to say.
9 hours ago
Peggy George
Verena Roberts created a "MOOC" for K12 but I think she decided to call it an open learning course rather than a MOOC.
9 hours ago
Is a MOOC a sacred cow?
9 hours ago
So if you teach an online class and you let anyone in, is it a MOOC? What if only 10 people show up?
9 hours ago
So the expectation is to maintain enthusiasm for a finite period in a MOOC?
9 hours ago
I like the concept of beginning and ending..
9 hours ago
What is the "MOOC approach"?
9 hours ago
Cool. Had never heard of Genius hour http://www.geniushour.com
9 hours ago
The "MOOC approach" to K-12 seems so vast.
9 hours ago
@Dave I appreciate what you're saying, because it is exhausting to keep talking.
9 hours ago
What do MOOCs accomplish?
9 hours ago
Dave makes a good point that sustaining community beyond the defined timeframe is tough. Having a set start and end point makes sense.
9 hours ago
How can it be quantified or qualified?
9 hours ago
@Kathy ... that was kind of what I was asking Paul re: the desired "thing" to accomplish
9 hours ago
But what are the goals or outcomes? To connect with other students? Cultures? Instruction?
9 hours ago
Peggy George
We had a great show on Classroom 2.0 LIVE with the Genius Hour team and the recording & tons of links are available on the Livebinder. [url]http://live.classroom20.com/1/category/genius%20hour/1.html[/url]
9 hours ago
Yes @ Jennifer, how is that thing determined and by whom?
9 hours ago
thanks @Peggy
9 hours ago
Massive is scalable, no?
9 hours ago
"Massive" takes the same structure but at different levels of involvement.
9 hours ago
Does open just mean freely available to all people?
9 hours ago
Like a fractal.
9 hours ago
Open, for me, is in terms of degree (not all or nothing). Think Creative Commons, for example.
9 hours ago
I have to admit I'm a MOOC drop out. I'll be trying another Coursera and this time I've got two friends in the mix. I think that will help me to stick with it.
9 hours ago
This is why it's hard to define a "MOOC". :)
9 hours ago
Peggy George
great point Kathy! that may make a big difference
9 hours ago
I hope so!
9 hours ago
You don't need critical mass when talking MOOCs for K-12.
9 hours ago
You are forcing students to participate in the "MOOC". It's not about numbers, IMHO.
9 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
There are some still people who can't always connect.
9 hours ago
Imagine CKK08 applied to six year olds...:)
9 hours ago
So, CCK08
9 hours ago
Peggy George
:-)
9 hours ago
Peggy George
Ben you should join the hangout :-)
9 hours ago
Jen has a good point.
9 hours ago
A MOOC has to be perceived as adding value, somehow add to your contacts, your knowledge and your ability to contribute.
9 hours ago
Peggy George
this 30 minutes goes by toooooo fast!
9 hours ago
Yes Peggy...very short indeed!
9 hours ago
Do you think, @Paul that the idea for a student MOOC necessarily has to emanate from the students themselves?
9 hours ago
This 30 min span has flown ... my, my ... and so much left unsaid :)
9 hours ago
A Justin Bieber cohort!
9 hours ago
Or a Miley Cyrus MOOC, that crosses many lines
9 hours ago
Just got the invite...
9 hours ago
:(
9 hours ago
Peggy George
you just start really drilling down on the topic and the time is up!
9 hours ago
Thanks all for a great chat!
9 hours ago
Much appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
9 hours ago
Great listening in.
9 hours ago
Not true...people think Mitra thinks teachers are not necessary.
9 hours ago
Nice spaces for all sorts of conversations ... but how can it all be curated?
9 hours ago
Great talk!
9 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
Glad to see you are all the same
9 hours ago
Thanks to all ... looking forward to the next one
9 hours ago
Peggy George
yes the TESOL group was upset with him
9 hours ago
Peggy ... ask Dave about the film in an aside ...
9 hours ago
Peggy George
ok Carol :-)
9 hours ago
I'll be back next week. This was fun!
9 hours ago
Peggy George
see you next week :-)
9 hours ago
I love these podcast suggestions, keep 'em comin'
9 hours ago
99 percent what?
9 hours ago
thanks Kathy
9 hours ago
jefflebow
  
 
any other podcast suggestions from anyone?
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Did I miss it AGAIN?
9 hours ago
Peggy George
The Roundtable hangouts with Ben Wilkhoff are always great!!
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
ok that's it - coffee break time!
9 hours ago
Carnegie mellon u
9 hours ago
Yes, it's in Pittsburgh, PA
9 hours ago
Peggy George
this is one link to Ben's Roundtable conversations
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Lurkers Unite
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
wonders if there is anything about which Dave does not have strong feelings
9 hours ago
Here's George's post on the MA program at CMU http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/2014/04/11/open-learning-analytics/
9 hours ago
Peggy George
very liberating model for a conversation! no homework, no prep, just show up!
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
coffee?
9 hours ago
jefflebow
  
 
Thanks Ben
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
it's not discoverable
9 hours ago
Peggy George
Carnegie Mellon University
9 hours ago
More from George https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/learninganalytics/StoWLuVO1Fs
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Did that in high school - I;m good
9 hours ago
Try that again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/learninganalytics/StoWLuVO1Fs
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Richard Mayer
9 hours ago
Hmm. does't paste in full link. Odd.
9 hours ago
Peggy George
links post funny in this chat--sometimes linkable and sometimes not...
9 hours ago
Of the 3, Udacity, EdX, Coursera, which is the "best?" :-)
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
can't you see his tongue in cheek?
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
aw not the Mennonites?
9 hours ago
Hi, Lisa!
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Hi Jen!
9 hours ago
yes, there's a Learning Analytics Google group I belong to
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
best is the one that offers me a job
9 hours ago
lol @Durff
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
a lady has to buy coffee
9 hours ago
Thanks, Dave. I am hearing EdX is the lesser evil of the 3. :-)
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
I;ll bet on 22 mins
9 hours ago
EdX seems to resonate better in some consortial circles than others.
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Early onset dementia - poor Dave
9 hours ago
jefflebow
  
 
Thanks everybody.
9 hours ago
bye
9 hours ago
Nice seeing everyone again!
9 hours ago
@Durff
  
 
Night all
9 hours ago
Cathy Evanoff
night
9 hours ago
Peggy George
bye everyone! till next time!
9 hours ago
bye all ... good chat
9 hours ago
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