Women of Web 2.0 Show # 64
Show #64, Join Sharon, Kathy and Cheryl as we have a great conversation with Chris Lehemann and Arthus.
20:42:55 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi--I forgot who the guests are tonight. :-(
20:44:15 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Let me see...Chris Lehmann is back for round 2
20:44:27 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus for a student perspective
20:44:44 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Talk about edutrends - hence Horizon Report
20:45:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Oh that's great--Arthus has had a busy day posting on twitter today :-)
20:45:35 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: So glad Chris is back!
20:45:35 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I noticed, his fingers must be fatigued but he should be ready to talk!
20:45:58 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yes!
20:47:22 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl!
20:48:13 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello, getting ready
20:48:53 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl :-)
20:49:42 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for your twitter response about Arthus as guest :-)
20:50:18 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: OO she's scooping me via twitter!
20:51:23 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes :-) sorry I forgot the @Cheryl
20:51:42 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL
20:52:09 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello, how is sound
20:52:16 sine -> -EdTechTalk: How will this be streamed?
20:52:20 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Sound is great!
20:52:30 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks alice,
20:52:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Sound coming through great on iTunes
20:52:58 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: sine, you can pick up the stream though itunes or windows media and real player
20:53:08 sine -> -EdTechTalk: got it! thanks
20:53:12 sine -> -EdTechTalk: no ustream?
20:53:16 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Loud and clear?
20:53:21 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: arthus are you on skype?
20:53:25 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Loud and clear!
20:53:30 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: no ustream, have'n't tried that yet
20:53:34 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: yes I am
20:53:37 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: arthus.erea
20:53:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HAHAHA
20:54:03 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yup
20:54:04 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Don't go Chris
20:56:00 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HAHAHAHA
20:56:07 chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: We've lost Arthus.
20:56:50 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello all, we are 2 min. to show time
20:57:34 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Snow Day tomorrow cheryl?
20:57:42 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I can tell this is going to be a fun, lively conversation!! :-)
20:57:46 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: only delay i think
20:57:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Sunny and 75 degrees in Phoenix AZ
20:58:08 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I'm Jeal
20:58:23 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome maria in show
20:58:24 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: snow
20:58:47 randyn -> -EdTechTalk: did anyone here join in for Making Connections tonight?
21:00:03 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: No I missed making connections--went to the TappedIn web 2.0 conversation
21:00:15 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I think they wer in SL tonight
21:00:16 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hello colleen
21:00:25 randyn -> -EdTechTalk: ok, i didnt join in, they were, so I couldn't join in
21:00:28 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Is that Maria Knee?
21:00:35 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: yes it is - howdy!
21:00:45 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: LOL...good to see you here!
21:00:54 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Maria!!
21:01:03 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: You hero
21:01:22 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @colleen how's my hair?:?
21:01:38 emapey -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all
21:01:48 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: your hair?
21:01:54 ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Your real hair looks great...not so sure about your avatar.
21:01:54 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: no problem -
21:02:01 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hehe
21:02:16 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes-thank you Maria! I've already listened to it twice :-)
21:02:22 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy - it's a SL thing
21:02:26 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Feeling any better, Maria? I think we have the same flu
21:02:27 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: ahhh
21:03:17 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: i'm doing a bit better - thanks to good pills!
21:03:41 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon - must be an online virus!
21:04:28 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey @czautcke!
21:04:58 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.makebeliefscomix.com
21:05:01 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: hey I recognize some names in the room from last night! Welcome
21:05:44 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://web.mac.com/simon_elliott/[email protected]
21:06:01 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I have my XO, but want to put ubuntu on it...
21:06:05 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.educationfutures.com/2008/02/21/digital-media-and-learning-co...
21:06:06 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://techpsych.blogspot.com Karen Janowski
21:06:23 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.epalscorp.com/about/news/press_feb_08_B.html
21:06:43 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Here is Vicki's http://mashable.com/2008/02/16/forget-powerpoint-online-presentations/
21:06:52 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: I hope I have the spaces in the right places
21:06:52 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://jlerman.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/personal-learning-networks-perso...
21:07:51 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Last night's parents as partners was great!
21:08:02 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for plug Sharon!!! It was great speaking with you last nite!
21:08:03 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://web.mac.com/simon_elliott/[email protected]/Home.html
21:08:25 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Did you many parents?
21:08:37 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: have many parents?
21:08:38 lorna -> -EdTechTalk: we had 2 parents with us
21:08:41 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @czautcke was involved in Parents as Partners last nite as well...
21:08:51 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG-thanks for props!
21:08:53 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What was the focus?
21:09:05 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Hello!
21:09:20 lorna -> -EdTechTalk: connecting parents with the classroom using tehnology
21:09:31 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy-not totally certain...Alec Corousa and his students were in the chat room for parents as partners
21:09:39 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hi @lorna!
21:09:41 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: will it be weekly? and is it for a specific school district
21:09:43 lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hi matt
21:09:48 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Steve, Susan, Pam, Peggy, Melinda, Matt, Maria in snow, lorna, linda, jmsd18, emapey, cazutcke, colleen, chellouise, arthus, and alice!
21:09:54 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome durff
21:09:58 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Hi cheryl
21:09:59 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and helping parents learn about internet safety including suggestions for providing parent workshops on this
21:10:02 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi cherly
21:10:02 lorna -> -EdTechTalk: bi weekly not a school board initiative
21:10:05 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Durff, coffee in hand?
21:10:12 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: vcheryl can't type
21:10:18 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: call that cab!
21:10:19 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @lorna great idea
21:10:27 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: coffee & cookies
21:10:36 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: in a cab
21:10:39 lorna -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy thanks
21:10:42 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: aqlliteration!
21:10:51 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: how can we be talking while american idol is on? LOL!
21:10:53 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: welcome!
21:10:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I know Arthus loves his Mac :-)
21:11:00 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nice Durff, it will keep us on our fingers!
21:11:04 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: and don't let us forget the debates
21:11:31 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i want to see id!
21:11:32 sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: What are your interests outside computers???
21:11:39 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: passport?
21:11:54 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: birth certificate?
21:11:56 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: lost audio
21:12:09 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hey kidd
21:12:14 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Can't believe I made it here...
21:12:16 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: back
21:12:17 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Everyone
21:12:18 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Karen, your website was one of my wows!
21:12:20 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: @maria it's the snow
21:12:27 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: great to be back on Edtechtalk..
21:12:29 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks @cheryl!
21:12:35 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: do teachers use presentation tools to enhance lectures?
21:12:36 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome tkidd, rozansdm1, hi KarenJan
21:12:38 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: we are going tohave power trouble tonight
21:12:41 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: want to check out yoru blog Karen!
21:12:46 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Good to see you here arthus...:)
21:12:51 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wow-sign up months in advance :-(
21:12:53 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: no spontaneous access for teachers and learners...that is an issue
21:12:57 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hello tkidd from maria in NH
21:12:58 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: glad you are back tkidd
21:13:02 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Kathy has a great question about parent participation
21:13:04 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Sarah
21:13:05 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: the lab model is questionable
21:13:07 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: gotta finish lesson plans while i listen...
21:13:11 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes...I have missed alot...
21:13:15 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @Arthus - does your school offer wireless?
21:13:24 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we have same issues...our lab is scheduled out weeks in advance
21:13:30 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: anybody else having trouble with sound being soft?
21:13:33 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @durff Same problem here!
21:13:40 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Is there a life outside of computers :-)
21:13:42 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: sound?
21:13:48 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: there's sound?
21:13:50 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - especially check out my most popular post - a link on the right side, it's filled with free tools for Universal Design for Learning for all kinds of learners
21:14:01 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I have been working on a ComputerFair Project which was today....And I won....3rd place.Under Multimedia Section....
21:14:03 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: :)
21:14:04 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: oh, brenda, go to the participation live, look for itunes or real player
21:14:11 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: so if something comes up in the class and a teacher wants students to do a little simulation or web reference, that isn't possible in a lab model
21:14:15 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda click on a channel at the right
21:14:37 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @tkidd what was your project?
21:14:38 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: then you can hear the discussion
21:14:47 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Web 2.0 Tools
21:14:53 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i wonder what his parents would think if they understood
21:14:54 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: will do Karen - thanks - am looking for resources for the Qu?©bec LEARN website
21:14:56 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What did you use?
21:15:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: is Arthus experience at school paper based? Heavily?
21:15:08 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I would say its fair...Jen
21:16:08 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Mr.Lehmann.....Hows it going...
21:16:20 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @tkidd, what was the topic of your project? Is it posted can we view it?
21:16:21 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: read an interesting editorial in THE Journal about teaching to the test
21:16:40 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great point Arthus! testing seems to drive so much of what is done in schools
21:16:43 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I have not posted it yet but i will......I haven't had the chance yet....
21:17:06 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: ok, no porbelm, I will look forward to seeing it when it's up
21:17:10 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: how can we move to a classroom experience that is less reliant upon paper?
21:17:20 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: can't type
21:17:23 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes.....I am quiet sure you are......lolz....
21:17:27 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: is the sound louder for you chellouise?
21:17:55 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @mattmontagne - paper based is an obstacle for many kids with disabilities - we have to make the curriculum accessible for them!
21:18:01 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: a little bit. It could be a little bit because of the competition with American Idol. LOL
21:18:12 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: thank you!
21:18:19 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hm, how is the leader doing on AI?
21:18:28 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for the help cheryl!
21:18:36 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @KarenJan - I agree...I think it crushes students who have organizational issues as well...
21:18:37 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: sure brendad
21:18:40 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: brenda
21:18:41 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: if we start with the reality that our curriculums are the disability and not the kids we will be at a better place
21:18:54 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl it's the boys tonight. So far I like Shakeezee (sp?)
21:18:55 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely1
21:19:07 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: ok, back on topic! LOL
21:19:11 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Derrallg
21:19:17 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Matt
21:19:48 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: ARthus--how did you become so "wise" at your young age??
21:19:49 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I agree...we're afraid of making mistakes...when did this happen?
21:20:01 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Amen Mr. Leha
21:20:03 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: wow great stuff from Chris
21:20:06 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Lehaman
21:20:17 Durff -> -EdTechTalk: aarg - really can't type
21:20:18 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: you are a very astute young man
21:20:26 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @matt happened right after the first mistake that got dragged to an admin
21:20:59 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: my admin doesn't under stand "free range" learning
21:21:21 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @chrislehman - i just ran for school committe in my town and was told i had the voters attention for 15 seconds! ....the 15 seconds before they went into the voting booth
21:21:24 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda...I think you got that one right...
21:21:57 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: freee range learning? who coined that term?
21:22:19 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: don't know I just came up w/ it right now.... i think :)
21:22:20 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i like open source learning!
21:22:24 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: what is free range learning? is it like free range grazing?
21:22:28 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: lol
21:22:34 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: sorry that was uncalled for...
21:22:42 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: how about if we call it accessible learning? that way it is accessible to all learners despite their learning challenges. read/write web offers incredible options
21:22:48 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: :_
21:22:52 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: open source learning AND teaching...I love that concept!
21:22:54 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: oops!
21:22:56 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yes much like free range grazing you learn what you want until you're full
21:23:08 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda GREAT comeback!
21:23:13 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: yes....Yes...Great Point There!!
21:23:18 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus
21:23:19 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Wonder how much twitter affects those bite-size bits??
21:23:57 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: I'm not entirely sure bite-size is bad
21:24:04 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: or at least for some things
21:24:07 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: change state standards into sound bites great
21:24:19 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: amen! @derrallg
21:24:24 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: well......
21:24:40 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Brian!
21:24:41 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe they could save those sound bytes on their ipod and replay them while they sleep :-)
21:24:46 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg-I heard about the school budget funding crisis in CA...is that really going to happen??
21:24:51 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: my sound bite when i ran for school committe was "the name of my town deserves an educator!"
21:24:56 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: he actually suggested that too!
21:25:05 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nice Karen
21:25:07 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes, lets not talk about it :(
21:25:15 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone!!!
21:25:25 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: hi bcrosby!
21:25:28 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg-sorry to bring that up...I just read about it and was thinking of u
21:25:37 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello brian, how is your school year?
21:25:50 maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: test bites
21:25:54 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt i'm okay its others I'm worried about
21:26:16 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yeah test bites!
21:26:18 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes So far so good -
21:26:26 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: yes...
21:26:34 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Good school nutrition tastie bites of wholesome learning!
21:26:48 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: my skyping student is doing well in his 2 skype classes, we are starting with another in a couple weeks.
21:26:58 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus - are many of your circle of friends from your school deeply online?
21:27:00 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: good one kathy
21:27:05 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello lloydcrew
21:27:05 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL
21:27:20 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hey, @lloydcrew - this is late for you!
21:27:22 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: at Arthus...do you learn more inside of school, or outside of school?
21:27:24 lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: howdy
21:27:57 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus - that is are your unique in VT or is your experience common at w/ your peers
21:28:04 lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: yes, I'll see how long I last!
21:28:09 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Susan
21:28:12 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @Arthus do your teachers do any extra 2.0 projects for you outside of class to enhance the curriculum?
21:28:15 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: evening SusanE!
21:28:18 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hi everyone
21:28:24 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Susan
21:28:25 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: VT? VoiceThread or vermont?
21:28:26 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, susan
21:28:36 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: @ Chrislehmann- Is there a Link to that blog?
21:28:40 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: hi Susan
21:28:44 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: VT = Vermont
21:28:45 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: it's amazing how late it can get when you stay at school until 6!
21:29:05 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: i c
21:29:21 chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupaled/E10C
21:29:33 chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupaled/E10D
21:29:34 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you very much :)
21:29:43 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What in the world are you doing until 6? Waiting for traffic to subside?
21:30:08 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: lol trying to stay out of the dog house...;)
21:30:34 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: :)
21:30:38 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: not you susan!
21:30:59 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: has anyone seen Two Million Minutes or the trailer at YouTube?
21:31:02 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Is this Sharron Peters Speaking...
21:31:09 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: the person before
21:31:09 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: a parent passed that along to me today
21:31:11 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yes
21:31:19 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: one of our students is working on a "quality of life" project and asked me to take the survey today that asked if you are a better teacher if your students do better on the tests
21:31:20 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yes 2 million but didn't watch it all wadya think?
21:31:24 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: chrisL speaking now
21:31:27 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: I missed 2 million minutes at FETC. It sure sounded good though
21:31:30 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I can't paste the URL to Two Million Minutes
21:31:34 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: teach to Bloom not to the test
21:31:38 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: long
21:31:39 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: ok...I asked because she said she was canadian...I was like....oh...
21:31:41 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I know
21:31:44 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy...haven't seen it...just trailer
21:31:46 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Got the point early on
21:31:47 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Except the tests have many issues - many biases
21:32:00 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: is the video online?
21:32:08 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: testing companies love the tests...big, big business
21:32:14 KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: good night all - husband and I have to have "The Talk" about next year's plans with my son who is a senior. he just got home from play practice
21:32:21 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: the classic was a friend whose son didn't know about 4 legs on a bed... they had futons in a small nyc apt
21:32:22 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @chellouise...just the trailer at YouTube
21:32:25 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nite karen
21:32:30 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Its a bell curve ... if everybody does well then the scores stay the same
21:32:35 alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Bye Karen
21:32:36 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: nighty karenj
21:32:36 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: thanks matt
21:32:53 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: My son is a freshman in college
21:32:53 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Outstanding point, Chris!
21:33:01 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: great thoughts Chris!
21:33:03 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Great point, Chris...
21:33:12 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: are you compassionate and active!!!
21:33:17 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: do we need to measure that?
21:33:18 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Preparing kids for 2000 days in their lives and not just the 2 days of testing!
21:33:29 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: do you think that this is also affecting the idea of integrity among students - more cheating?
21:33:31 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: use PBL to measure it! WHY do we HAVE to measure it?
21:33:43 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: PBL???
21:33:50 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, folks but the testing barn door is already open and it will not be closed. It is a pipe dream to think we are going back anytime soon.
21:34:03 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: proect based learning instead of regurgiation of facts
21:34:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Longitutidanl studies instead of testing...love that idea!
21:34:16 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes
21:34:27 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: WE COULD use performance-based assessments but that is not what is being used with NCLB
21:34:28 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hi blutz welcome
21:34:30 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: PBL - was why I was aksing questions - Project based learning
21:34:49 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: So we just took the 5th grade CRT tests to test to see if my students learned what they are supposed to learn in fifth grade ... UMMMM there's still 4 months of the school year left ... do you think we might still teach them something in that 4 months???
21:34:55 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: so we need to change NCLB? LOL!!!!!!
21:34:59 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: would love to see longitudinal studies on PBL
21:35:00 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Will NCLB go away after the Bush Admin is done? Or is that here to stay for a while?
21:35:08 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB will be tweeked by the winner in Nov 2008, but it will not go away
21:35:11 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: YEs!!!! change NCLB!
21:35:32 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp that would be good
21:35:44 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: lol
21:35:48 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello BLutz..
21:36:00 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: maybe if we could show that it makes thinkers and learners.......nah, too good to be true
21:36:01 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Arthus.
21:36:01 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello hockeymom!
21:36:03 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: too take nclb away the new pres would have to be willing to defend "so you want to leave students behind?"
21:36:07 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: hows it going
21:36:07 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: could it be student-teacher ratio? Having advisories
21:36:12 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB has been hard on the arts I think...the arts are such an essential opportunity for young people
21:36:27 chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.tinyurl.com/ypffvg
21:36:28 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB needs to be fixed also for ELL learners makes good districts look bad
21:36:31 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: our motto here in Qu?©bec is "Success for all"
21:36:36 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB has been hard on everything BUT reading, writing and math
21:36:55 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Science is coming next!
21:36:57 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: true, derrall, ELL, and SPED students don't look good in the data
21:36:59 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: gotta go put the twins in bed BRB
21:37:04 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: true matt - i teach music and so far at my school they've been supportive of keeping me in the building and active w/ the kids
21:37:11 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: hi the kyleguy! The Shareski show must be over!
21:37:11 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - Success For All is a very conteversial reading program here!!! : )
21:37:22 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I think i saw most of you students ...Mr.Lehmann
21:37:32 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: schools are a creative business
21:37:33 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: yep, hi all. Just checking in. Who is your guest tonight?
21:37:33 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Art and music are asked to adopt an anchor
21:37:44 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrsoby - wonder if it is related??
21:37:48 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: and economies of scale don't apply to creative businesses
21:37:51 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: schools should be a creative business! I agree Arthus
21:37:54 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Well arthus..not all of them....
21:38:03 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: small school model is a very good one...
21:38:07 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: they should...
21:38:09 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Guests Arthus and ChrisLehmann
21:38:14 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello cindy
21:38:24 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - very scripted - teachers are rated down if they go off scrpt.
21:38:28 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Hi - just left my class with Alec Couros
21:38:41 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Cindy S!
21:38:56 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Matt - just sent you a link - direct Twitter
21:39:00 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrosby - I would find ti hard to believe that they are related, but I should google it to find out
21:39:01 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome cindy
21:39:06 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hi alex r
21:39:10 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hi alex!
21:39:14 alexr -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl and Susan
21:39:23 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - I doubt they're related
21:39:23 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: tonight Chris Lehmann and Arthus are our guests.
21:39:31 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Tuesday nights are just filled with back to back PD opportunities
21:39:45 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Remember the show will be a po dcast by the end of the week.The chat will be available too.
21:40:36 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: good issues to raise arthus.
21:40:41 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Glad you have all made it to the show!
21:41:22 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I've always felt we don't give students enough credit for the things they've learned outside of school
21:41:28 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: FYI, there are 7, 746, 428 people on skype this evening.
21:41:31 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: true
21:41:39 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I feel as thought those things sometimes aren't valued as much
21:41:45 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Closet users with secret identities
21:42:05 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thats a great point Kathy...
21:42:14 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy S-surfing that DM link right now...thanks for passing it my way.
21:42:28 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: some of the ppl in athletics in hs have that size of a network even back in the good old days
21:42:38 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I agree about contacts
21:42:50 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: I switched this week from having my students blog to mainly creative writing kinds of posts to blogging about what they are learning ... we fell on our faces - facts were wrong ... wrong conclusions - great learning experience ... yesterday and today we re-visited and looked at some of their posts ... already vast improvement!!!
21:42:56 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: good pt. on the friends semantics piece arthus
21:43:14 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrosby very rewarding
21:43:18 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: Some people have different networks. For instance I follow many folks who are Montreal Canadian enthusiasts
21:43:19 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: hahahaha
21:43:20 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: great brian, reflection! summarize, edit
21:43:23 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Just was contacted by a childhood buddy via facebook yesterday...haven't seen him in 20 years!
21:43:35 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: brian - are your students' blog post open for hte world to see ?? Am looking for best practice student blogs...
21:43:36 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: cool!
21:44:05 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: is studicious still alive and well?
21:44:06 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @thekyleguy - are you stalking those Habs fans or are you on their side ??
21:44:07 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?blogger_id=65078
21:44:20 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Jeff
21:44:26 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Brian!!
21:44:27 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: hello
21:44:39 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: It doesn't have to be facebook - I had to laugh was working with a student who was talking about her website and I said oh I'd love to see it and she hesitated and teh other girl said um no too personal!
21:44:48 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: we were talking about php!
21:44:53 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - My students 80%+ students of poverty, 60%+ second language learners.
21:44:55 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I can top that...I went to ASL(american school in london) 30 years ago and they still have me in the alumni database and I was contacted by an old friend! yah, i'm old!
21:44:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I was able to share one of my twitter contacts with a former elementary student of mine today on facebook-- :-) He's currently attending George Washington U
21:45:17 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Good point on inch deep Chris
21:45:45 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @brian - WOW! And you have given them a chance to have a voice! Can't wait to read more closely
21:45:48 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I think it's really great to meet on the basis of shared interests
21:46:07 jmsd18 -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus - do you think students would use blogs, etc to express their voice to decision makers, given the chance?
21:46:38 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: RSS has been an incredible discovery for me this year...
21:46:57 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I really want to get RSS passed along to the students that I work with
21:47:01 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I'd like to see some Google Reader become assigned shared reading along with that summer book
21:47:03 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: I was contacted through an online site from a woman in Norway that I was in grade 4 with - and I'm not telling how long ago that was!
21:47:04 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp - look at the posts from last week when we had a scare that we might not be able to blog anymore - the school district accidently blocked our blog for one day - and my students blogged about what blogging means to them.
21:47:34 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: that's great bsrosby
21:47:42 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: bcrosby sorry
21:47:43 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Susan what a great idea!
21:47:46 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @cindy...re-connecting is so much fun!
21:48:02 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp also I blogged about it and gave examples:http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=412
21:48:06 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy that's amazing!
21:48:25 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=412
21:48:26 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: Is your school paper - both news and literary online?
21:48:26 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: but decision makers aren't reading those blogs....how do we get them there?
21:49:07 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Chris Lehmann, you might be interested in this graphic in light of what you just said
21:49:11 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.mtl-peters.net/rolecompetencyqep.jpg
21:49:12 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: how do you all find the TIME to blog? I want to...
21:49:32 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: "In America you can say what you want, but be careful what you say." I think that was a quote by Ice Cube
21:49:47 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @chellouise just keep it small at first- you don't have to write a book for each entry
21:49:48 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: I can't usually listen in on Tuesday nights - this is nice.
21:49:53 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: chellouise, think of it as time to reflect, which we do, but you are sharing your reflections into conversations
21:50:08 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: good point Arthus!
21:50:17 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: those are good ideas ladies. thanks!
21:50:25 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: do you see a difference between your social network and your learning network?
21:50:35 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i like that it is not the tool, but the network behind the tool
21:50:47 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thats a good question...Jeff
21:50:53 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @jeff - yes and in some ways i like them seperate
21:50:55 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That is such a good point about using the tool where your friends are to express opinions such as political opinions--tool doesn't really matter
21:51:05 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl That's what I'm having kind of a hard time developing...
21:51:40 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: finding time to network like I want to, and fulfilling all my other duties....overwhelming!
21:51:48 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Start small, maybe you would like podcasts instead. A quick audio/verbal reflection. That is how I started.
21:51:49 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: One thing that I think is challenging is to show students how to turn all this networking into action to make the world a better place.
21:51:51 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Twitter is pretty much a professional networking tool for me...starting to use Facebook more, but just for fun
21:52:31 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Dr. Cheri, welcome!
21:52:38 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: HI Cheri!!
21:52:40 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl!!!
21:52:41 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: hmmmm....contemplative podcast That's an idea to ponder
21:52:48 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @matt - I agree! So much learning/sharing happening on Twitter if you follow the right people :-) I do!
21:52:48 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sharon - woo hoo
21:52:51 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Just play Enya
21:52:57 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Walk or ride your bike to school!!! Yeah!!!
21:53:12 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Chellouise, I started with short 3 min. podcasts to my students, then parents, then blogging
21:53:19 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hey matt aren't you in Wisc?
21:53:22 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: ok, son is pestering me to finish up his eye therapy. Thanks for the good conversation tonight
21:53:24 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I love riding bike to work...but winter this year has been rough
21:53:31 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @susan...yes, in Wisc
21:53:35 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Where are the role models for kids to "relax"?
21:53:40 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Professional collaboration time needs to be valued - we just don't get to do it ... its a waste of a potentially very valuable resource.
21:53:42 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: rough winter for a bike communter
21:53:46 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl Thanks for the food for thought
21:53:55 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: night chellouise
21:53:57 chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Good night all!
21:54:04 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: night chell
21:54:09 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: teachers need to be modeling reflection in front of and with the kids
21:54:16 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: good to see administrative leadership using alternative transportation
21:54:32 sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG - absolutely true - and how many of us do that??
21:54:39 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG good point
21:54:47 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: siesta!!!
21:54:49 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: WE have to do it if we say we value it
21:54:59 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy right on
21:55:06 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: "You will care about the quality of your work..."
21:55:31 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: "You will care about each other's welfare"
21:55:40 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: school calendars...great question!
21:55:48 lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: naptime was my favorite thing in kindergarten!
21:55:50 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: year round schools...
21:56:00 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I think that needs to be talked about
21:56:01 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: YES
21:56:05 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i think so matt, i would love year round
21:56:15 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: 10 month calendar over 12 months
21:56:17 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: I would stop the nonsense of cleaning out a room just to start over again in Sept
21:56:18 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yes I like that 'out there' question Cheryl
21:56:26 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: something like 9 weeks on, 3 weeks off with a longer 6 week summer.
21:56:33 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: 200 day calendar spread out over 12 months
21:56:39 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that makes sense to me
21:56:44 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: hey my kids do go help w/ the harvest- no joke!
21:56:46 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Why put it all away if you just have to get it all out again?
21:56:53 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yeahh, that would be good 200 days,
21:56:56 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes
21:57:00 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: kids and teachers are brain dead for the 1st month we're back
21:57:02 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: how about cycles and teachers are on and off
21:57:07 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: calendars are like requiring all 5-year olds to enter Kdg and then to progress through the grades one year at a time--very artificial structures
21:57:10 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: in Maine we harvest blueberries and potatoes
21:57:23 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: lol @ cheryl
21:57:38 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Pay me to do another month ... month and a half and build in maore field trips, art experiences, music,
21:57:38 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: we're corn, wheat soybeans out in IL
21:57:39 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: kids start school in August, have a month off to harvest
21:57:48 Sarah S -> -EdTechTalk: We harvest tourists too . . kids work in service industry
21:57:58 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yes Sarah, good point.
21:58:09 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I would love 3 weeks off in October/early Nov
21:58:20 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: there are models like what Chris talks about here in Milwaukee
21:58:30 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I was at a school that had 2 weeks in October and I loved it
21:58:39 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: September/October ... the best weather of the year.
21:58:42 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: calendar is a systems issue...needs to be fixed
21:58:47 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yes my sis-in law went to Coloado Coll
21:58:55 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: she loved that model!
21:58:56 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: unless of course Brian, it is March skiing!:-)
21:59:05 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: National University in California does the same - classes meet 4 times a week for 4 weeks
21:59:09 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello James
21:59:25 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Way back in the 70's I taught in a school where kids were enrolled in school on their actual birthday--not in August and all at the same time--very interesting concept because they didn't advance by age but by assessed learning--hard to explain
21:59:26 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: plus she knew if she hated a class it would all be over soon
21:59:28 James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hi
21:59:43 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: or perhaps a 9 montho calendar, with Dec-Feb on holiday so wisconsin teachers could go south
21:59:43 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes ... We could build in a ski week!
21:59:45 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: interesting Peggy, was it in the US?
21:59:54 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes--Massachusetts
21:59:55 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg that sounds really interesting....
21:59:56 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: The start date in florida is set by the tourist industry .students can't start back to school to early because the staff the theme parks (FL)
22:00:06 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: It is a needed shift that U.S. education needs to make - away from wide and shallow to deep learning
22:00:08 jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: too
22:00:12 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What about a ski week of physics learning?
22:00:14 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: good point
22:00:24 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: going to start winding down.
22:00:28 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Immersing yourself would be great if the teacher had the depth and breadth of knowledge to make connections across subjects or brought in experts who would help do that
22:00:32 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What about a week of camping to study environmental
22:00:51 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: I want to go environmental
22:00:55 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @linda - how about a team approach, especially in high school
22:01:03 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: There were some things that were good in the "good old days" :-)
22:01:08 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: The only value of short periods according to my son is to end the boredom of one class
22:01:14 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: just changed to green
22:01:19 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: plus we could avoid student overload in that kind of model
22:01:20 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I think team building and REAl project based learning takes building real relationships
22:01:20 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: for enviro slant
22:01:22 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Many of my students parents are being laid off from the casinos right now which is typical here ... many used to travel to Mexico for 4 to 5 weeks ... don't now because of fear about getting back.
22:01:28 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: you don't have to know it all, just help students learn to teach themselves and collaborate
22:01:29 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: :)
22:01:31 chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: linda -- I agree...
22:01:33 James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: part of the problem with schools is a curriculum that is too wide and too shallow.
22:01:38 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt go green
22:01:50 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrall...I'm working on it!
22:01:54 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for your time in the chat room! Another great show. You make the chat room come alive.
22:02:03 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Casinos are in trouble?
22:02:11 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks to Arthus and Chris for their time!
22:02:13 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think the whole way curriculum is organized around subject areas is one of the problems
22:02:25 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: I agree Peggy
22:02:45 stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Arthus, thanks Chris!
22:02:56 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: good questions to wrap up on
22:03:05 James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: You go Arthus. Great job!
22:03:12 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://enviroscims.wikispaces.com/Earth+Day Earth Day 2008 Webcast! Please consider participating
22:03:15 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: well, they don't need to be learning from the edublogosphere
22:03:16 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: My university students that I taught for several courses at a time would get confused about which course we were in because I kept overlapping content (that's the way I live it)
22:03:19 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sendcathy - no ... this time of year in Reno ski season is winding down ... weather keeps tourists from Bay Area away ... will rehire in spring
22:03:35 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: oh its a cycle
22:03:40 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy - where do you teach?
22:03:47 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: Good perspective to share Arthus, thanks
22:03:55 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Lots of great conversation tonight!! thanks Arthus and Chris!
22:03:57 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: great job everyone!
22:04:01 brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yay vicki is coming to ICE!!!
22:04:03 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sendcathy - exactly
22:04:05 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: enjoyed the conversation!
22:04:08 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: thanks everyone
22:04:09 Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: thanks very much Chris and Arthus - goodnight
22:04:16 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I just retired but I taught at ARizona State University-west campus
22:04:17 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus ever heard of the movie Rushmore? by Wes Anderson
22:04:22 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes..Arthus You Rock!! Mr.Lehmann.Great Job!:)
22:04:23 James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Wow, Palm Springs. It's freezing here.
22:04:29 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: thank you chris and arthus - thanks WOW!
22:04:34 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Chris and Arthus...well done
22:04:35 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Arthus and Chris L
22:04:40 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy - I interviewed there in 2002 :-)
22:04:42 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy No, I never have
22:04:44 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: My teaching was in a PDS school setting that was based in public school classrooms
22:04:47 lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you Arthus and Chris- Great discussions and ideas to ponder!
22:04:52 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy - now I'm at Illinois State
22:04:56 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy is that the same director as Bottle Rocket
22:04:56 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: This was a very interesting ....
22:04:58 cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks to you all, see you next week! Doug Johnson and Joyce Valenza
22:05:01 bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Chris and Arthus!!!
22:05:12 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @CheriT-WOW-wish you had been hired!!
22:05:14 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yes, and very offbeat funny
22:05:22 derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks WOW2
22:05:25 arthus -> -EdTechTalk: thank you all, wish there was more time to talk, goodnight! :)
22:05:30 SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: nite
22:05:33 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy - I would have like the weather better :-)
22:05:34 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I've been looking forward to Joyce V for months :-)
22:05:35 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: night
22:05:37 thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: thanks & g'night
22:05:41 CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Joyce is great!!
22:05:43 James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: goodnight
22:05:46 tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: No Problem Arthus....I agree
22:05:48 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night all!
22:06:05 sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: See you next week.
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