Parents as Partners Episode #9 June 2, 2008

Getting started. Parents as Partners in the Edtechtalk community welcomed newcomer parent/teacher team. Great ideas and solutions for working with schools and parents using web 2.0 tools. Matt Montagne and Lorna Costantini shared the air space with Penny Lindballe and Joanne McMahon from Alberta. Pleased to know that they are not alone in experiencing barriers to using these tools, Penny and Joanne went away charged and ready to take the baby steps to encouraging their community to participate.

Chat Log

2008-06-02 20:58:05 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: HI Peggy and Jeannine!

2008-06-02 20:58:40 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Hieverybody

2008-06-02 20:58:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hieveryone. Have you started streaming yet?

2008-06-02 20:58:59 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: yes

2008-06-02 20:59:04 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk: canyou hear us

2008-06-02 20:59:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: NowI can :-) Thanks

2008-06-02 21:00:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Toughcompetition tonight--ASU women's softball on route to the NationalChampionship. But I'm here with you :-)

2008-06-02 21:01:09 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:Now I can hear you, not sure what I was doing...

2008-06-02 21:01:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:twinklebell??

2008-06-02 21:01:42 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Peggy...that is the secret password!!

2008-06-02 21:02:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:sorry--it was a cute name

2008-06-02 21:02:28 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Hiall!

2008-06-02 21:02:33 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Hey Sheila...thanks for joining in...Earthbridges this weekend!

2008-06-02 21:02:44 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HiSheila

2008-06-02 21:02:46 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Sunday?

2008-06-02 21:02:51 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: HiPeggy!

2008-06-02 21:04:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:appreciate the background info :-)

2008-06-02 21:04:10 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:don't forget to record!!!  :)

2008-06-02 21:04:20 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:i'm on a mac...

2008-06-02 21:04:29 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wehave been talking about that for over a year

2008-06-02 21:04:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Macfor me too :-)

2008-06-02 21:04:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: idon't think it will ever happen

2008-06-02 21:04:58 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:twinkle, twinkle, little star...

2008-06-02 21:05:21 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Hey Mrs. Durff...you're probably right about that...

2008-06-02 21:05:27 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:Ahhhh, but stars don't twinkle. Optical illusion!

2008-06-02 21:05:30 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:what is the score?

2008-06-02 21:05:32 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: but I hope we can find a new chat tool

2008-06-02 21:05:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: OhOh redwings competition tonight too :-)

2008-06-02 21:05:43 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: 2-0 Pens Cindy ... BOOO!!

2008-06-02 21:05:48 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ohsheila don't say that

2008-06-02 21:06:01 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Hi jime...welcome to PAP...thanks for stopping by!

2008-06-02 21:06:01 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hicheryl

2008-06-02 21:06:15 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:evening to all.

2008-06-02 21:06:21 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Hey Cheryl...thanks for joining in PAP 2nite!!!

2008-06-02 21:06:22 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:oops yeah! Matt

2008-06-02 21:06:31 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:YOu bet, glad I am around too!

2008-06-02 21:06:50 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hiderrall

2008-06-02 21:06:55 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: We have 2 great guests and the Red Wings-Penguins game goingon...life is good!!!

2008-06-02 21:07:06 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:hi cheryl. just got caught up on WOW podcasts. as always great stuff

2008-06-02 21:07:07 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hidurff

2008-06-02 21:07:08 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:YAHOO for world bridges and edtechtalk

2008-06-02 21:07:19 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Yeah...Derrallg is with us 2nite!!!

2008-06-02 21:07:22 [Message] jime -> -EdTechTalk: Hello,I want to know what I use on my control folder to open a PPS file. thanks, Jime

2008-06-02 21:07:30 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:hey  matt

2008-06-02 21:07:38 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: 12people in chat  :D

2008-06-02 21:07:38 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:thanks cindyseibel, this makes it all worth it, to get comments like yours.

2008-06-02 21:08:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HiCheryl-great to see you! I loved your graduation blog post on TechLearning.

2008-06-02 21:08:10 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:this is such an important show, parents as partners!

2008-06-02 21:08:28 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:penny/joanne I'm from Calgary - penny think we've touched base before?

2008-06-02 21:08:29 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:thanks Peggy. My youngest son, just called today he got me Rock Band!

2008-06-02 21:08:47 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ohno

2008-06-02 21:09:01 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:quick! turn it off!!

2008-06-02 21:09:05 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Hey Dennis...welcome!

2008-06-02 21:09:06 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:CAn't wait Durff! It is fun. and funny

2008-06-02 21:09:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Allright! I had my first lesson a couple weeks ago--my grandson taught me

2008-06-02 21:09:15 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: himatt

2008-06-02 21:09:17 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:@cheryl - you'll have to join us at McAuliffe after hours.

2008-06-02 21:09:31 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:Last year I watched, this year I will rock

2008-06-02 21:09:33 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: @Dennis...is this the one and only Dennis Richards?!

2008-06-02 21:09:56 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: theone and only!

2008-06-02 21:09:58 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:Rock Band is loud

2008-06-02 21:10:18 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:friend's kids have it

2008-06-02 21:10:19 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:Penny, I had 3 boys those ages, now 24, 23, 20

2008-06-02 21:10:44 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:what enerygy she must have!

2008-06-02 21:10:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Penny tell us about the roadblocks.

2008-06-02 21:11:17 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Whatlibrary?

2008-06-02 21:11:23 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:yes Alberta has great network

2008-06-02 21:11:43 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Wayto go Alberta.

2008-06-02 21:11:43 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:minimum 5mb to every sch9ool

2008-06-02 21:11:47 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:oops school

2008-06-02 21:12:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Using the library is a really great idea!

2008-06-02 21:12:09 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:we're very lucky here in Alberta

2008-06-02 21:12:13 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:not in hagerstown

2008-06-02 21:12:52 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wehave too many not connected and don't see why they should

2008-06-02 21:13:03 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: I'mdealing with the same issue. My grandson can't connect regularly.

2008-06-02 21:13:03 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:and too many on dial-up

2008-06-02 21:13:12 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Myanswer is Yes!

2008-06-02 21:13:18 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: itis frustrating

2008-06-02 21:13:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Iagree with Lorna-go ahead and start and you can work on providing/findingaccess for all.

2008-06-02 21:13:37 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:even our cable is too slow

2008-06-02 21:13:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Maybe they can use the library too :-)

2008-06-02 21:13:58 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:we need to open our schools at different hours and in different ways

2008-06-02 21:14:07 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:parents with whom i work see no reason to do so

2008-06-02 21:14:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:too many believe education is something i fill kids up with not somethinglearners pursue

2008-06-02 21:14:55 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:yes cindy

2008-06-02 21:15:16 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:we have strong privacy legislation in the province - interpreted differentlyhowever

2008-06-02 21:15:42 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:durff, that is so sad, you must keep yourself focused with the student energyand the possibiilty of where you can lead them

2008-06-02 21:15:43 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Ijust started learning in October 2007. You can go to K12Onlineconference.organd "attend" online presentations.

2008-06-02 21:15:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ithink our main battle is apathy

2008-06-02 21:15:56 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: soone of the challenges is introducing technology as the tool for parentinvolvement

2008-06-02 21:16:26 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@Dennis there are two years worth there!

2008-06-02 21:16:42 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:in our district, teachers can override at any time, and request that sites beunblocked permanently

2008-06-02 21:17:31 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff - yes 80 presentations

2008-06-02 21:18:06 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: thatis why admistrators have to get online!

2008-06-02 21:18:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Ningis such a great network to do what you wanted

2008-06-02 21:18:22 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@Dennis enjoy watching! I especially like the visual metaphors that Warlickuses and how they differ

2008-06-02 21:19:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Theissue of control is always big for administrators

2008-06-02 21:19:02 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff - i agree with you about david warlick

2008-06-02 21:19:03 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:agree Lorna - teachers/admin have to immerse themselves in these technologiesto understand

2008-06-02 21:19:08 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:but then how do we get parents to see value?

2008-06-02 21:19:31 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff need parents like Penny to show leadership too

2008-06-02 21:19:42 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff - true...we need to all groups to see the benefit

2008-06-02 21:19:54 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ineed 20 of her at my school

2008-06-02 21:20:09 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Matt- could not agree with you more. You are a great ambassador from web2.0 toparents.

2008-06-02 21:20:10 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:penny has great tenacity

2008-06-02 21:20:33 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:our principal did a Ning with his senior english class = loved it

2008-06-02 21:20:40 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hiNedra

2008-06-02 21:20:48 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Mydaughter is a parent with three children who needs an education.

2008-06-02 21:20:51 [Message] Nedra -> -EdTechTalk: Hi

2008-06-02 21:21:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hiczautcke

2008-06-02 21:21:23 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: 2-1 Penguins...Wings just scored!!

2008-06-02 21:21:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:calm down matt

2008-06-02 21:21:35 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Iwas really motivated by seeing David Warlick - having the"evangelists" give a talk to teachers, administrators and parentshelps

2008-06-02 21:21:42 [Message] czautcke -> -EdTechTalk: Hieveryone! 

2008-06-02 21:21:48 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: LOL Durff!!

2008-06-02 21:21:54 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:i'd like to invite you all to help me build a plan to engage parents in anonline portal with schools. first look at http://blog.tech4learning.ca (to beshared online as well)

2008-06-02 21:22:56 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:last year at my school we had a video of students talking about why blogging isimportant for them could show at back to school night

2008-06-02 21:23:21 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:I'm hoping to next year use some subliminal tools - planning to show a shortclip before each meeting ..."Did you know" type things

2008-06-02 21:23:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ihave one on my webpage parents watch...they seem to like it, yet...

2008-06-02 21:23:46 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:sounds good jeannine - exploring is helpful

2008-06-02 21:23:51 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:i'm very impatient

2008-06-02 21:24:04 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:@jeannine - like that idea . . . short and sweet.

2008-06-02 21:24:11 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: Ishowed "Did you know" this year as well

2008-06-02 21:24:23 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Those are great points about people (parents, teachers administrators)experiencing it for themselves

2008-06-02 21:24:29 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:fears on two fronts I think - network security and privacy/security issues

2008-06-02 21:24:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:schools publish full names of students in newspapers....

2008-06-02 21:24:41 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Atour annual meeting for tech ed. we do " why I love my . . . "

2008-06-02 21:25:01 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff - our schools don't do that so much anymore, just newspapers do

2008-06-02 21:25:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:our schools do around here

2008-06-02 21:25:38 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:sports, honor rolls, class trips

2008-06-02 21:25:49 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Ning- Isn't it about teaching parents what is appropriate? 98% positive.

2008-06-02 21:25:51 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:our privacy legislation limits significantly what can be publicly displayed(for personal information)

2008-06-02 21:25:52 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:why is that less threatening?

2008-06-02 21:26:22 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: hicindy

2008-06-02 21:27:08 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:learners could be (gasp) motivated

2008-06-02 21:27:17 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ohterrible!

2008-06-02 21:27:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Seems like starting slowly and having a clear purpose for the Ning would helpto build trust and confidence

2008-06-02 21:27:32 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:they might connect with prior knowledge

2008-06-02 21:27:50 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:Exactly - we can get to people who can't get to school!

2008-06-02 21:27:53 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:they might ectend their learning beyond the curriculum

2008-06-02 21:27:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Whata strong point for the Ning-you're involving parents who are not normallyinvolved in the school!

2008-06-02 21:28:02 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:extend

2008-06-02 21:28:04 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Whynot bring parents together to discuss acceptable use on the Ning?

2008-06-02 21:28:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hirob

2008-06-02 21:28:27 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk: hilisa

2008-06-02 21:28:46 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: Why?

2008-06-02 21:28:56 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:but you could answer the question if you were at the hocky rink

2008-06-02 21:28:57 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:putting people into slots

2008-06-02 21:29:02 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:that sounds so familar trying to keep things apart, teaching and being aaparent or a citizen.

2008-06-02 21:29:28 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@jeannine not according to that thinking

2008-06-02 21:29:51 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:but people are amalgams

2008-06-02 21:29:59 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:What's scarier (?) Ning or Nothing?

2008-06-02 21:30:07 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: Idon't understand this need to keep participants in a child's educationseparated

2008-06-02 21:30:08 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: weare not separate entities

2008-06-02 21:30:31 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: itmakes no sense derrall

2008-06-02 21:30:32 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk: 1.5

2008-06-02 21:30:53 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff--came in late...is the discussion about a school/parent ning?

2008-06-02 21:31:08 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:you should be on time

2008-06-02 21:31:11 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk:Digital citizenship effort - good effort.

2008-06-02 21:31:12 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk::-)

2008-06-02 21:31:17 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: itis right now rob

2008-06-02 21:32:23 [Message] rjacklin ->-EdTechTalk:  This would be a safeenvironment for mistakes!

2008-06-02 21:32:32 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Whatare some of the things your principal might agree to on the Ning so that bothparents and teachers could participate?

2008-06-02 21:32:48 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:involving parents in the conversations

2008-06-02 21:33:06 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:why not include the entire school community?

2008-06-02 21:33:56 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:the principal has a critical role in setting the culture for the onlinerelationships to happen ( and f2f relationships too). would you agree?

2008-06-02 21:34:08 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:Those parents who really want to participate would anyway?? They would starttheir own facebook network for school families. Anyone heard of that?

2008-06-02 21:34:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Theadvantage of a Ning network is that you can create groups to address some ofthose different interests

2008-06-02 21:34:26 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: Ithink the only time a online community could be a problem is if ist is closedor excludes participants, we had this at a school with yahoo groups

2008-06-02 21:35:23 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:@cindyseibel - I think so, even if the principal is not tech savvy, thewillingness to try new things permeates to staff

2008-06-02 21:35:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Doyou have a school site council that includes parents, teachers, admins?

2008-06-02 21:36:39 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:principals also set expectations by doing

2008-06-02 21:36:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:You're so right! Fear of the unknown

2008-06-02 21:36:54 [Message] Dennis -> -EdTechTalk:Gotta go for tonight. One link for kids you might want to check out: PanwapaWorld http://tinyurl.com/3qszaf

2008-06-02 21:37:00 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:don't call it social networking

2008-06-02 21:37:37 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:we need to do more to support our principals in learning - we had this verydiscussion at a provincial meeting recently - principals are key

2008-06-02 21:37:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: callit communication network or something less intimidating

2008-06-02 21:38:04 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff agree - adults need own terms?

2008-06-02 21:38:21 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:like training wheels

2008-06-02 21:38:22 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:@Durff  I agree. USing differentterms hellp.

2008-06-02 21:38:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:also chat rooms

2008-06-02 21:38:41 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:this is a chat room

2008-06-02 21:38:53 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:but are we really just chatting?

2008-06-02 21:38:55 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:Different terms for administrators too.

2008-06-02 21:39:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Whatabout trying a wikispace and use it to plan school events that involve parents?

2008-06-02 21:39:05 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@durff I think you are right, I think this is where a Ning works well

2008-06-02 21:39:30 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: iconcur

2008-06-02 21:39:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hiJames

2008-06-02 21:39:44 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:how many parents are wanting information dissemination v. informationinteraction?

2008-06-02 21:39:46 [Message] James.Sigler ->-EdTechTalk: Hi

2008-06-02 21:40:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@rob most parents want the first

2008-06-02 21:40:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:@rjacklin-that is a great question! dissemination vs interaction

2008-06-02 21:40:24 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:perhaps even keeping the Ning going for community events...allow school to seeit can be beneficial to communityand then bring the school into the community

2008-06-02 21:40:28 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:@rjacklin it depends. and I don't think they can answer that as long as schoolssay they can only have information not participate

2008-06-02 21:40:35 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: butcan we use the hook of information to get them engaged

2008-06-02 21:40:37 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ibeg parents to subscribe to their kid's blogs

2008-06-02 21:40:45 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:@cindyseibel--great point!

2008-06-02 21:40:53 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:Modeling is so vital

2008-06-02 21:40:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yesit's much easier to "control" information if you're justdisseminating

2008-06-02 21:41:13 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@rjacklin that's a good point perhaps two stages with interaction coming later

2008-06-02 21:41:14 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:@joanne - we're having more of that conversation among techies in Alberta. Ihave a presentation that speaks to what can/should be done that doesn't hurtthe network

2008-06-02 21:41:23 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:and I'm a techie

2008-06-02 21:42:32 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:it's not everything that needs renamed

2008-06-02 21:42:55 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thetools are there so it's the other issues that need to be addressed-educationand demystifying the tools.

2008-06-02 21:43:15 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:so there are two types of fears that I see - one is the security of studentsand the other is the security of the technology.

2008-06-02 21:43:16 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:still had a parent who didn't want their child to have a wikispaces user idbecause, "I don't want my child to have another email address."Ignorance is not really bliss.

2008-06-02 21:43:17 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:baby steps

2008-06-02 21:43:31 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@matt that's the problem some education participants do want to just "pullthe plug" and not have to deal with it

2008-06-02 21:43:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:people won't listen if they are frightened

2008-06-02 21:43:58 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:the problem with wikispaces, youtube, etc, is not the good stuff is the otherstuff that's available when you open them

2008-06-02 21:44:06 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:unblock the wiki first....

2008-06-02 21:44:22 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:youtube has lots that's not educationally or age appropriate

2008-06-02 21:44:38 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@rob i had a kid last year who hid her email from her mom who thought shedidn't have one or she would become a mass murderer

2008-06-02 21:44:44 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:@matt montagne - hockey game is getting nasty

2008-06-02 21:44:55 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:what's nasty... which way

2008-06-02 21:45:24 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:@cindyseibel - both ways!

2008-06-02 21:45:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Whatif you start with something like class blogmeister that has more controls whileyou're building understanding and potential?

2008-06-02 21:45:57 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:blogmeister is a lot of work for the admin

2008-06-02 21:46:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Ifthe parents want it we'll get it--so true

2008-06-02 21:46:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:admin of the site not of the school

2008-06-02 21:46:35 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Istarted with voicethreads to show admin and parents. No photos, no names (codenames)

2008-06-02 21:46:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:@mrsdurff-yes it is but it provides the kind of controls administrators arelooking for when it gets started

2008-06-02 21:47:18 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:doesn't ed voicethread cost an arm and a leg?

2008-06-02 21:47:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: edvoicethread is free for teachers

2008-06-02 21:47:33 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk: adistrict acct. anyway?

2008-06-02 21:47:40 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:Voicethread Ed has free accounts through the end of August

2008-06-02 21:47:52 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@Peggy I think Ning could too

2008-06-02 21:47:54 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:there is objectionable content in the bookstore, on tv, on the bus...!

2008-06-02 21:47:57 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:for teachers yea, but for students?

2008-06-02 21:48:12 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:digital citizenship when they're middle school and up, but not in primarygrades

2008-06-02 21:48:13 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes,Ning does allow you to approve comments

2008-06-02 21:48:29 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:@rob voicethread had never cost me a penny

2008-06-02 21:49:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:which is another tool we can suggest to parents

2008-06-02 21:49:26 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: @jeannine...I completely agree!!!

2008-06-02 21:49:28 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:net filtering at home

2008-06-02 21:50:10 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:still here, and yes I think Internet Safety is a good hook to get parents onboard.

2008-06-02 21:50:16 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:like that idea - not just discussion but also providing some learning (cheryl'sidea)

2008-06-02 21:50:23 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thatwould be a great next step for the fall--using the tools to teach parents aboutinternet safety

2008-06-02 21:50:47 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: atbingo too? i knew i didn't like bingo...

2008-06-02 21:51:50 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:That's a great example Lorna-even though it took time for the teachers to seethe potention of podcasting it was worth it!

2008-06-02 21:52:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:potential :-)

2008-06-02 21:52:49 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Oh,I've never done that before Matt!

2008-06-02 21:52:53 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wedid Commercial Podcasts advertising 7th grade classes for 6th graders

2008-06-02 21:53:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thekids love to hear themselves "on the air"--like their own radio show:-)

2008-06-02 21:53:23 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: ithink the primary students liked podcasting better

2008-06-02 21:53:29 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Wedid unit review podcasts.

2008-06-02 21:53:39 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: http://middleschoolblog.blogspot.com/  these are the podcasts I was referring to

2008-06-02 21:53:54 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@peggy I always laugh when my students say "we're live" on an MP3file

2008-06-02 21:54:15 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: benice derrall

2008-06-02 21:54:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Thanks for the link Matt-that was a wonderful idea for a podcast!

2008-06-02 21:54:24 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:they're just kids

2008-06-02 21:54:41 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@durff I think its that snow ball microphone

2008-06-02 21:55:17 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: iam too poor for one of those

2008-06-02 21:55:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:you must be rich

2008-06-02 21:55:41 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the"pockets" will definitely expand as you get going-kids start askingfor it and parents start asking for it

2008-06-02 21:55:44 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:single, was

2008-06-02 21:57:09 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:Excellent Lorna...heard studnets on some other EdTechTalk programs...they aregreat!

2008-06-02 21:57:19 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:that would be students as partners

2008-06-02 21:57:41 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:Great show, keep up the good work. Sorry but I have to hit the hay. Will catchthe rest on the podcast. Over and out!

2008-06-02 21:57:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:G'night Cheryl

2008-06-02 21:57:55 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:nite cheryl

2008-06-02 21:57:58 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: thanks Cheryl!

2008-06-02 21:58:02 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:bye Cheryl night

2008-06-02 21:58:02 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: byecheryl

2008-06-02 21:58:05 [Message] cheryloakes -> -EdTechTalk:g'nite see you soon.

2008-06-02 21:58:05 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: thanks for coming!

2008-06-02 21:58:32 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:how about narrowing that

2008-06-02 21:58:45 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:just one element of online safety

2008-06-02 21:59:00 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:for ex: why use a screen name

2008-06-02 21:59:08 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:also some good data available about what the actual risks are - supports thestudent view

2008-06-02 21:59:18 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:@lorna that would be a great idea

2008-06-02 21:59:22 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:Keep it up Penny & Joanne - keep leading the way!

2008-06-02 21:59:31 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: MrsDuruff...I actully believe in not using screen names at acertain age (middle school)

2008-06-02 21:59:48 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: babysteps . . ?

2008-06-02 21:59:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Youalways run some risk when you involve the students--they may scare the parentsas they talk about the ways the use the internet--did you see Growing upOnline?

2008-06-02 22:00:03 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:amd i disagree with you matt

2008-06-02 22:00:10 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:penny and joanne - hope you can help with the parent engagement work onhttp://blog.tech4learning.ca

2008-06-02 22:00:15 [Message] joanne -> -EdTechTalk:Thanks for this opportunity!

2008-06-02 22:00:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Penny and Joanne-you are off to a great start! I know you'll be successful!

2008-06-02 22:00:46 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:yes, congrates Penny and Joanne!

2008-06-02 22:01:06 [Message] mrsdurff ->-EdTechTalk:  hey matt hockey?

2008-06-02 22:01:55 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I aminspired by your motivation and commitment, Penny & Joanne! Good for you!

2008-06-02 22:02:23 [Message] rjacklin -> -EdTechTalk:have a good night!

2008-06-02 22:02:32 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:Thanks for a great conversation!

2008-06-02 22:02:50 [Message] James.Sigler ->-EdTechTalk: night

2008-06-02 22:02:59 [Message] joanne -> -EdTechTalk: Thisis so amazing, it just makes our world a smaller place!

2008-06-02 22:03:00 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: nite all!

2008-06-02 22:03:04 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk:Thanks everyone!!!

2008-06-02 22:03:07 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Falmuth

2008-06-02 22:03:11 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: :)

2008-06-02 22:03:21 [Message] Nedra -> -EdTechTalk: Greatconversation, thanks!

2008-06-02 22:03:26 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:great show thanks

2008-06-02 22:03:38 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk:thanks all!

2008-06-02 22:03:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: DoesDennis contribute to the leadertalk.com site?

2008-06-02 22:04:02 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk:Thanks - great show!

2008-06-02 22:04:10 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: not sure PeggyG...he should tho

2008-06-02 22:04:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:excellent show!

2008-06-02 22:04:16 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk:night

2008-06-02 22:04:17 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yeshe should!!

2008-06-02 22:04:20 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: Thanks MrsDurff

2008-06-02 22:04:37 [Message] Lorna -> -EdTechTalk:thanks for coming

2008-06-02 22:04:38 [Message] cindyseibel -> -EdTechTalk:audio connection timed out. Great show. Thanks everyone!

2008-06-02 22:04:49 [Message] matt montagne ->-EdTechTalk: thanks Y'all