EdTechTalk Community Development Meeting

19:56:24 PeggyG ->  Hi all-loving the tune! :-)
19:56:55 JohnS ->  Hi, Peggy. Thanks for joining us
19:57:12 PeggyG ->  Always look forward to the conversation!
19:58:27 PeggyG ->  Stream dropped-are you working on something?
19:58:49 PeggyG ->  Hi Alice
20:00:02 JohnS ->  If anyone wants to join the conversation, skype "worldbridges"
20:00:12 JohnS ->  Jeff is working on getting the stream up -- should be momentarily.
20:00:40 PeggyG ->  Headset not connected. Will be typing :-)
20:01:31 AliceMercer ->  I'm still listenint to ETW from NECC, lol
20:01:48 PeggyG ->  Me too :-)
20:02:25 PeggyG ->  Right now I'm listening to the short convener video for the K12 online conference. Any of you submit a proposal?
20:02:53 dougsymington ->  hear audio on stream
20:02:55 AliceMercer ->  I don't have anything in mind, and Don't think I can get it together that quick
20:03:03 dougsymington ->  JS was wonky @ 1st, but better now
20:03:17 PeggyG ->  Yes July 11 is just around the corner :-) Lots of exciting new keynotes this year
20:03:19 AliceMercer ->  Is this about the community forum?
20:03:20 dougsymington ->  have ustream too
20:03:22 JenW ->  I am still at work -- but listening
20:03:23 dougsymington ->  recursion
20:03:28 JenW ->  will be with you in about 5 minutes
20:03:39 dougsymington ->  don't know re k12
20:03:39 AliceMercer ->  Hey, I'll help someone who has a proposal, lol
20:03:41 PeggyG ->  audio coming through great now
20:03:42 JohnS ->  First order of business is to finalize this: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1492
20:03:47 AliceMercer ->  What's teh topic tonight?
20:03:54 PeggyG ->  The Maine group is a keynote :-)
20:04:01 AliceMercer ->  Hmm, I'll listen for a while first
20:04:43 AliceMercer ->  Has Dave agreed to clean up potty mouth?
20:04:44 PeggyG ->  Bob Sprankle, Alice Barr and Cheryl Oakes are keynoting one strand :-)
20:05:02 Cathy E ->  I got my tee shirts today
20:05:08 Cathy E ->  Doug it is you
20:05:26 PeggyG ->  @Cathy E--what Tshirts?
20:05:41 JL ->  http://www.cafepress.com/edtechtalk
20:05:48 Cathy E ->  http://www.cafepress.com/edtechtalk
20:06:04 PeggyG ->  Oh-the wordle tshirt for ETT--Love it!
20:06:15 AliceMercer ->  Dave will work on potty mouth, that's his assignment.
20:06:31 PeggyG ->  How many words do you want in your mission?
20:06:32 AliceMercer ->  Well, that Pearson thing is a lesson, no?
20:07:03 mrsdurff ->  did i sign a permission slip?
20:07:04 PeggyG ->  WOW-that's a long mission statement :-)
20:07:32 mrsdurff ->  hi lorna
20:07:45 lorna ->  Hello all
20:08:25 mrsdurff ->  to provide a platform for a community of learners centered around webcasting
20:08:33 PeggyG ->  forum to connect for educational technology?
20:08:38 AliceMercer ->  KISS!
20:08:48 mrsdurff ->  Kiss?
20:09:05 mrsdurff ->  aw!
20:09:19 AliceMercer ->  This is a collective for connecting and collaborating about issues and information about educational technology
20:09:25 PeggyG ->  space to connect and collaborate...like that
20:09:28 JenW ->  I don't have a headset -- sorry
20:09:38 AliceMercer ->  Dave is working on his mission, lol
20:09:44 JL ->  http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
20:09:48 mrsdurff ->  ty
20:10:02 PeggyG ->  Hi Jen-great to see you
20:10:19 mrsdurff ->  i don't think we want to avoid it
20:10:32 mrsdurff ->  at least not the concept
20:10:52 JL ->  In situations where profanity, sexual content, or descriptions of graphic violence are used, those uses should be clearly noted at the beginning of the archived media, and parents should be advised to use discretion when exposing minors to such content. In cases where such content is frequently used on a particular show, the show's introduction should note this fact.
20:11:22 AliceMercer ->  YEP! That's what NPR does.
20:11:26 lorna ->  Sounds good
20:11:29 AliceMercer ->  Me like
20:11:33 mrsdurff ->  so that means edtechtalk allows such contend?
20:11:55 PeggyG ->  should that even be an issue for ETT?
20:12:02 lorna ->  Yes that what it means to me
20:12:05 AliceMercer ->  So If Dave has potty mouth, those of us who appreciate his ribald sense of humor and earthy langauge can listen, and those who don't won't
20:12:13 lorna ->  right
20:12:33 AliceMercer ->  Or, if there is a show about say kids discussing their dating life?
20:12:40 mrsdurff ->  i think we need to seek to welcome a wide audience
20:12:40 PeggyG ->  etiquette is different than bad language
20:12:45 AliceMercer ->  And it's teens, and you might want to let elementary folks know?
20:12:57 mrsdurff ->  true peggy
20:12:58 AliceMercer ->  And if Mrs. Durff is happy, we're all happy!
20:13:11 mrsdurff ->  oh you are so funny
20:13:15 JohnS ->  Some EdTechTalk shows are tied so closely to the EdTechTalk community, either in name or in identity, that they should not be controlled by a single content producer. Rather, they are owned by the community and overseen by the producer, in conjunction with the show hosts. These arrangements are made between the EdTechTalk Governing Board and the producer.
20:13:47 mrsdurff ->  uh?
20:13:59 mrsdurff ->  john explain
20:14:02 JL ->  In situations where profanity, sexual content, or descriptions of graphic violence are used, those uses should be clearly noted at the beginning of the archived media, and parents should be advised to use discretion when exposing minors to such content. In cases where such content is frequently used on a particular show, the show's introduction should note this fact.
20:14:30 dave ->  edtechtalking?
20:14:33 PeggyG ->  it helps to have really clear descriptions of each show so people know what they are tuning in for
20:14:38 dave ->  edhtechtalk
20:14:40 mrsdurff ->  that covers archived shows but not love shows
20:14:49 mrsdurff ->  live
20:15:45 PeggyG ->  Yes, a statement of "purpose" for each show
20:15:52 paulrwood ->  Why might I be hearing 2 audio's? What have I done wrong?
20:16:07 mrsdurff ->  that is not the issue peggy
20:16:24 JenW ->  Hey Peggy -- sorry, missed your hi.  I am helping a staff member -- sojust listening.
20:16:45 PeggyG ->  It's an issue for me-each show has a different focus or purpose and it helps to know what that is.
20:16:46 JohnS ->  paul -- getting both ustream and shoutcast?
20:16:51 JenW ->  smiles -- can I add the disclaimer -- that the showhost tends to ramble unintelligently  :)
20:16:54 JohnS ->  Or maybe two windows open?
20:17:10 mrsdurff ->  what words should be said?
20:17:21 paulrwood ->  Got it fixed. Had Itunes open as well as show window
20:17:33 JenW ->  so the disclaimer is a safety and not a censor??
20:17:42 PeggyG ->  I'm referring to the description for each channel--not the mission statement.
20:17:44 lorna ->  Sorry it just sound like over kill on language
20:18:00 paulrwood ->  Thanks @JohnS
20:18:00 JenW ->  Bear??   Baby??
20:18:05 mrsdurff ->  hi leroy
20:18:11 dave ->  is bitch a bad word?
20:18:19 mrsdurff ->  yes dave
20:18:25 dave ->  to whom?
20:18:29 dave ->  and for what reason?
20:18:30 mrsdurff ->  leroy
20:18:44 JohnS ->  The chat says it's a bad word.
20:18:47 JenW ->  perhaps not a bad word -- but not the best choice of words
20:19:01 dave ->  what about poop?
20:19:08 dougsymington ->  here we go
20:19:10 mrsdurff ->  so...what if oscar said that to dave or bonnie?
20:19:15 lorna ->  Personally I think that the best censor is the listener
20:19:32 lorna ->  they can turn off the show at any time
20:19:33 JenW ->  I would always error on caution   -- but that is me
20:19:43 dave ->  @mrsdurff slightly different family here... if he did, it wouldn't be that big a deal. we'd talk about it and explain to him when it's appropriate if ever
20:19:53 PeggyG ->  I agree with you JenW
20:19:56 dave ->  that or he learns to say it from someone else
20:20:02 gary ->  Fiters in schools block you anyways - depends on who is in charge
20:20:15 mrsdurff ->  and he will if not from you dave
20:20:18 JenW ->  I was surprised you could type the B word -- and that it was not filtered in this chat room
20:20:31 dave ->  i'm an administrator :)
20:20:38 JenW ->  But I don't think someone should take advantage of the disclaimer
20:21:05 mrsdurff ->  shall we all sign first alice?
20:21:13 JenW ->  but again -- I tend to go towards being conservative
20:21:15 JohnS ->  EdTechTalk members are responsible for the content of their own contributions to the community and its shows. Any expressed opinions, viewpoints, endorsements, or recommendations are solely those of the contributor. EdTechTalk does not assume any liability for content produced by its members.
20:21:28 JenW ->  Ohhh -- I like that
20:21:31 dougsymington ->  liked that addition JS
20:21:38 AliceMercer ->  That's good!
20:21:50 dougsymington ->  that's what it has to be
20:22:00 dougsymington ->  without a 7 sec delay
20:22:02 PeggyG ->  Great language
20:22:09 paulrwood ->  If you don't like what is on the channel vote with your feet or your mouse or your clicker.
20:22:15 JenW ->  ustream??
20:22:18 mrsdurff ->  that is a good paragraph john
20:22:24 JenW ->  do we endorse ustream??
20:22:33 JenW ->  It is now the Revolutionary Document
20:22:37 mrsdurff ->  value statements?
20:22:54 JenW ->  TOS
20:23:07 AliceMercer ->  We provide a service, and a platform
20:23:07 JohnS ->  revolutionary?
20:23:15 JenW ->  TOS is the commonly known phrase
20:23:20 AliceMercer ->  That sounded interesting?
20:23:20 JenW ->  seen on many sites
20:23:21 mrsdurff ->  @paul you are an adult - i was thinking of minors
20:23:51 paulrwood ->  Well where are the parental units in this?
20:23:58 AliceMercer ->  Manifesto?
20:24:01 JenW ->  and then it will be the 1812 Document
20:24:08 mrsdurff ->  sometimes not
20:24:19 JenW ->  10th anniversary --??
20:24:23 mrsdurff ->  there is one?
20:24:28 paulrwood ->  So any idea how many non-adults tune in?
20:24:35 JenW ->  you said 10th anniversary??
20:24:49 JenW ->  FOR THE WORLD BRIDGES LOGO ----
20:25:03 JenW ->  I have a bridge with skylines from world known buildings -- will that work??
20:25:40 JL ->  I think WB will have a variety of logos
20:25:41 PeggyG ->  Good question--was wondering about the difference between Worldbridges and ETT
20:25:42 mrsdurff ->  and we agree with lorna
20:25:54 lorna ->  missing" to benefit students
20:25:55 JenW ->  okay -- I will send you the ideas when I get home for the link logo
20:26:18 mrsdurff ->  a community
20:26:27 PeggyG ->  do you have a google doc you are using to work on the mission statement?
20:26:28 mrsdurff ->  for webcasting
20:27:06 PeggyG ->  online forum?
20:27:11 mrsdurff ->  what to say?
20:27:11 JohnS ->  http://www.edtechtalk.com/mission
20:27:18 Cathy E ->  vehicle to enhance collaborative technologies
20:27:19 AliceMercer ->  onilne community?
20:27:22 JenW ->  I like online community
20:27:29 mrsdurff ->  oo yes cathy
20:27:59 JenW ->  a facility for the online community
20:28:12 PeggyG ->  like that Lorna--only unclear part for me is "Worldbridges community"
20:28:17 JenW ->  a virtual platform??
20:28:19 AliceMercer ->  Hi JW!
20:28:22 mrsdurff ->  platform to enhance collaborative technologies
20:28:23 JenW ->  Hi Alice
20:28:29 lorna ->  I'm still stuck on edtechtalk as a place for worldbridges
20:28:35 mrsdurff ->  hi jose
20:28:36 gary ->  A venue?
20:28:41 JenW ->  portal
20:28:53 JenW ->  provide a venue
20:28:54 JoseRodriguez ->  Hey Folks catching some wifi by the pool.
20:29:04 JenW ->  provide opportunities!!
20:29:08 mrsdurff ->  to enhance collaborative technologies
20:29:12 PeggyG ->  Hi Jose-what a great way to tune in :-)
20:29:39 PeggyG ->  instead of people how about ed tech enthusiasts?
20:29:42 JenW ->  I like Goolge Docs
20:29:50 PeggyG ->  google docs
20:29:52 JenW ->  but I like wiki's too
20:29:59 mrsdurff ->  Google Docs
20:30:05 PeggyG ->  can only edit one at a time on Wikis
20:30:37 PeggyG ->  Bud Hunt's message was great
20:30:44 AliceMercer ->  Google docs is now limiting to 10?
20:30:55 JenW ->  really??
20:30:59 JenW ->  why?
20:31:11 JohnS ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide a place for people to gather and interact online for learning and continued professional development.
20:31:11 mrsdurff ->  enhance
20:31:13 JenW ->  what about ZoHo??
20:31:22 mrsdurff ->  for
20:31:25 JenW ->  provide opportunities for people to gather........
20:31:33 mrsdurff ->  collaborative technologies
20:31:39 JenW ->  don't like the limit of "PLACE"
20:31:50 JenW ->  you offer more than a place
20:32:08 JenW ->  you offer training, listening, sharing, etc -- it is opportunities
20:32:33 PeggyG ->  promote innovative uses of technology to support educational change
20:33:02 lorna ->  support education - make it general
20:33:15 PeggyG ->  yes, I like that
20:33:20 JenW ->  smiles -- I like Peggy -- but I will stick with opportunities
20:33:26 paulrwood ->  wouldn't it also support life long learning
20:33:35 JenW ->  I don't like long sentences   :)
20:33:54 mrsdurff ->  support a community of learners
20:34:07 JenW ->  a mission statement can have 3 sentences
20:34:08 JenW ->  I was told
20:34:13 mrsdurff ->  you should have five sentences
20:34:19 mrsdurff ->  in a paragraph
20:34:19 JenW ->  but preferably just 1
20:34:21 PeggyG ->  educators and learners is good
20:34:24 paulrwood ->  Short sweet and to the point
20:34:31 gary ->  @JenW - agree venue implies a place to come
20:34:40 mrsdurff ->  i'm not an educator - i'm a learner
20:34:42 JohnS ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide a place for people to gather and interact online to promote innovative uses of technology to support lifelong learning.
20:34:44 PeggyG ->  missions can have several paragraphs (according to the experts) :-)
20:34:46 JenW ->  you should be able to state everything in under 50 words
20:34:46 JL ->  if anyone wants to chime in, skype 'worldbridges' or call 1-603-574-4923
20:34:57 PeggyG ->  Vision is usually very brief
20:35:05 JenW ->  :)
20:35:06 JenW ->  sorry
20:35:14 JenW ->  I type much more hard than I talk
20:35:27 JenW ->  I should just be quiet   :)
20:35:37 JenW ->  yes, opportunites -- that is MY idea   :)
20:35:41 mrsdurff ->   provide opportunities for people to gather.
20:36:12 JoseRodriguez ->  Place not necessary
20:36:17 JenW ->  I can call -- but I don't have headphones -- and that would mess everything right??
20:36:20 PeggyG ->  I think the focus is educational technology and life long learner is very broad
20:36:29 mrsdurff ->   platform to enhance collaborative technologies
20:36:47 PeggyG ->  I really like enhance collaborative technologies
20:36:51 paulrwood ->  innovation implies cutting edge to me.
20:36:54 JenW ->  dont' like innovation either -- in this case -- we are average learners doing average things usually with once in a while greatness  :)
20:37:13 mrsdurff ->  it is conveyed through tech lorna
20:37:23 JoseRodriguez ->  what's innovative to other's may be everyday to us.
20:37:25 PeggyG ->  innovative use may be different for me than for others
20:37:34 JenW ->  do I have to be a lifelong learner???   :)
20:37:43 JenW ->  what if I want some time off  ?
20:37:43 mrsdurff ->  yes you do
20:37:49 mrsdurff ->  i deem it so
20:37:55 mrsdurff ->  tough
20:37:56 Cathy E ->  You can't have any time off
20:38:00 mrsdurff ->  no time off
20:38:04 JoseRodriguez ->  lifelong is more of a chliche
20:38:06 JenW ->  he said I was bossy??    LOL   --
20:38:18 PeggyG ->  I'm not thrilled with including life long learning
20:38:38 PeggyG ->  ongoing professional development?
20:38:40 mrsdurff ->  music
20:38:43 JenW ->  I think we want to stay away from the BUZZWORDS
20:38:48 JenW ->  just to sound TECHIE
20:38:51 mrsdurff ->  bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
20:38:55 JoseRodriguez ->  ongoing is good
20:38:58 JenW ->  go back to simplicity -- but specific
20:39:12 JenW ->  Filter, Foster, and Fertilize
20:39:16 AliceMercer ->  I need to eat
20:39:25 JenW ->  no BUZZWORDS
20:39:35 mrsdurff ->  that buzz was for jen
20:39:44 paulrwood ->  Don't know if that has enough current buzzwords.  How will we ever play bizz word bingo?
20:39:51 JenW ->  post the sentence again please
20:40:02 JohnS ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather and interact to support lifelong learning. 
20:40:15 Cathy E ->  John - put in your 4 things
20:40:33 mrsdurff ->  around instead of support learnin
20:41:16 JohnS ->  21st century skills? nah.
20:41:37 mrsdurff ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather & interact around learning
20:41:38 JenW ->  don't like gather
20:41:43 PeggyG ->  new things are not necessarily sustainable but they are still valuable to try and explore
20:41:50 JenW ->  what is another way to say gather??
20:41:55 JohnS ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather and interact to promote innovative ans sustainable uses of technology to support lifelong learning. 
20:42:00 mrsdurff ->  group together?
20:42:21 JenW ->  why gahter??
20:42:25 mrsdurff ->  well pooh
20:42:37 mrsdurff ->  then put webcasting back in
20:42:37 JenW ->  provide opportuhities for people to interact together??
20:42:42 JenW ->  would that cover gathering??
20:42:55 PeggyG ->  it's only available online to gather....
20:43:24 paulrwood ->  In the end what do you want EdTechTalk to be?
20:43:29 JohnS ->  The mission of edtechtalk is to develop the mission of edtechtalk.
20:43:33 PeggyG ->  sharing and collaborating
20:43:55 JenW ->  I think we want the Mission Of EDTechTalk to be a opportunity for learners to come together and share ideas, visions, and hopes.
20:44:00 gary ->  gather = converge?
20:44:02 mrsdurff ->  ordinary people doing extraordinary things with the tools of technology
20:44:05 JenW ->  in a variety of technological ways.  :)
20:44:20 paulrwood ->  Then form it around those things
20:44:39 mrsdurff ->  connect the dots?
20:44:45 JenW ->  The Mission of EEE is to provide opportunities for learners to come connect by sharing ideas, visions, hopes, and collaborate using a variety of online tools.
20:44:50 JenW ->  EEE  -- ETT
20:45:07 JohnS ->  The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to connect and collaborate to promote innovative and sustainable uses of technology to support lifelong learning.
20:45:25 JenW ->  The Mission of ETT is to provide opportunities for learners to connect by sharing ideas, visions, hopes, and to be able to collaborate.
20:45:49 mrsdurff ->  we did thanks doug
20:45:50 JenW ->  smiles -- I cannot promise always innovative and sustainable uses
20:45:57 JenW ->  sometimes we just talk
20:46:12 dougsymington ->  :)
20:46:12 JenW ->  yep
20:46:25 mrsdurff ->  we're doing a mission statement activity
20:46:28 PeggyG ->  big highlight of ETT shows is itroduction of new tools
20:46:29 JenW ->  It took our school 3 weeks to write a mission statement
20:46:33 JenW ->  that everyone agreed on
20:46:44 gary ->  A group I am belong to took a whole weekend plus....
20:46:46 JenW ->  Mission Statement Part 1
20:46:54 paulrwood ->  http://www.businessplans.org/mission.html
20:47:00 JenW ->  OHHH ---- voting on mission statements
20:47:03 JenW ->  use a google form
20:47:38 JenW ->  The vision of ETT is to provide ongoing opportunities for educators ........
20:47:41 JenW ->  you fill in the rest
20:47:43 PeggyG ->  @paulrwood-that's a great resource-we used that to help us write a mission statement for College of Teacher Education & Leadership at ASUWest.
20:49:15 JenW ->  ETT -- The Final Frontier??    :)
20:49:28 mrsdurff ->  there you go jen
20:49:36 JenW ->  The Future Frontier??
20:49:52 mrsdurff ->  a two tiered approach
20:50:03 mrsdurff ->  a governing board above all
20:50:07 JenW ->  I liked the idea of everyone who hosts a show is PART of the governing board -- after they have had a show for 2 months
20:50:19 mrsdurff ->  and an operating board below that
20:50:42 JenW ->  I think the governing board has to prove that they are more than a 2 show limit
20:50:59 JenW ->  sorry -- ongoing show for 2 months
20:51:13 PeggyG ->  How do you share a google doc so it's open to everyone and not just invited people?
20:51:17 mrsdurff ->  so talk about how many and what makes a quorum
20:51:18 AliceMercer ->  did i miss license discussion?
20:52:00 JenW ->  the board of directors and then the associates??
20:52:12 mrsdurff ->  why not governing board meets quarterly
20:52:13 gary ->  Decide your quorum first and that will determine your board size
20:52:26 mrsdurff ->  operating council meets bimonthly
20:52:29 PeggyG ->  executive board plus governance committee?
20:52:37 mrsdurff ->  yeah
20:53:11 mrsdurff ->  7 is a quorum?
20:53:13 JenW ->  okay -- but who is choosing the board -- and if they disagree with who chose them, can they then be kicked off??
20:53:31 JenW ->  or is there a 2 year term??
20:53:38 JenW ->  1 year term??
20:53:41 mrsdurff ->  a larger quorum than 3
20:53:45 PeggyG ->  executive board could make decisions on own or in consultation with governance committee or membership at large, depending on the decision
20:53:48 gary ->  What is the minium number to make a decision?
20:54:02 JenW ->  I think 7 shows a good representation
20:54:09 mrsdurff ->  founders should be on for life
20:54:09 dougsymington ->  quorum of 3
20:54:11 JenW ->  we already have 3 members right now
20:54:13 JenW ->  right??
20:54:19 mrsdurff ->  that's you JL
20:54:20 dougsymington ->  I think we were just saying
20:54:20 JenW ->  John Doug Dave
20:54:24 mrsdurff ->  and doug
20:54:25 PeggyG ->  elected by membership based on eligibility--spell out criteria for eligibility
20:54:26 JenW ->  Jeff -- would make it 4
20:54:27 mrsdurff ->  and dave
20:54:36 mrsdurff ->  the price of fame
20:54:37 JenW ->  so we are already at 4
20:54:47 JenW ->  or who will be Bill Gates of ETT
20:54:54 mrsdurff ->  i nominate JL
20:54:55 AliceMercer ->  Jeff, have a short tour?
20:54:57 PeggyG ->  diversity of perspective is really valuable
20:54:59 mrsdurff ->  second?
20:55:12 JenW ->  All in favor of JL -- say AYE
20:55:13 AliceMercer ->  I understand, but you should be transitional
20:55:16 mrsdurff ->  aye
20:55:25 paulrwood ->  Who are on the lsit of show personalities/
20:55:31 AliceMercer ->  I'm not in favor of JL being on forever, but I understand.
20:55:31 JenW ->  hmmm -- I vote -- does not look good
20:55:33 PeggyG ->  really liked that point made by James Surowiecki about better decisions made by diverse groups
20:55:34 lorna ->  Jeff has a very good point
20:55:44 JenW ->  I like 1 person from each show
20:55:58 JenW ->  it is safe -- representative -- and non biased
20:56:00 AliceMercer ->  I was transitional president of a non-profit so my husband could leave it.
20:56:01 JenW ->  and diversity
20:56:32 mrsdurff ->  step in when they have to
20:56:34 lorna ->  separation
20:56:40 JenW ->  QUESTION??
20:56:56 JenW ->  are you not happy with how it is being RUN now........I am quite content with you guys and the decisions you have made
20:57:27 JenW ->  I trust you -- and your choices -- and roll with your punches --
20:57:31 mrsdurff ->  hi leroy
20:57:54 JohnS ->  But Jeff's largely the boss now. And he doesn't want to be the boss.
20:58:08 JenW ->  maybe the people here tonight -- should be on the council because we are here tonight -- which shows we care
20:58:09 mrsdurff ->  he is good at it
20:58:46 JenW ->  I think we are taking this very seriously --
20:58:46 mrsdurff ->  i don't think i am qualified to decide anything
20:59:10 PeggyG ->  I think it's good to move away from "voting"-doesn't provide best decisions sometimes
20:59:11 mrsdurff ->  what is a life?
20:59:13 JenW ->  but that is the first time Jeff has said what he just said
20:59:19 JenW ->  about wanting to do something else
20:59:24 dougsymington ->  not really the first time
20:59:26 JenW ->  (well the first time I have heard it)
20:59:27 mrsdurff ->  no it isn't\
20:59:33 JenW ->  I disclaimed it
20:59:36 dougsymington ->  he's had those 300 domains for a while now
20:59:38 JenW ->  That I heard it
20:59:39 mrsdurff ->  oh
21:00:02 JenW ->  but that totally changes my thought pattern
21:00:11 JenW ->  a puzzle piece just fit
21:00:21 mrsdurff ->  at least he will be out of the basement
21:00:35 PeggyG ->  an organization needs to be sustainable regardless of the specific people who are involved--to address people moving on to other things
21:01:00 JenW ->  yes, but I didn't realize that one of the people might be moving on -- and is perhaps sharing the mantle
21:02:05 mrsdurff ->  there IS magic
21:02:19 JenW ->  I think you underplay it -- I have no clue what you do
21:02:40 mrsdurff ->  potatoes are rhizomes
21:02:44 PeggyG ->  That's why a clear mission, vision statement is so important so the community continues with clear focus regardless of the specific people contributing.
21:02:47 JenW ->  I am just amazed at all the things that work just on the CHAT page
21:03:27 JenW ->  why??
21:03:58 mrsdurff ->  john will be ready
21:04:20 mrsdurff ->  like nike - just do it
21:04:35 mrsdurff ->  i will get you for that john
21:04:42 PeggyG ->  Don't vote--survey preferences but leaders should make the decision
21:04:43 Cathy E ->  night all
21:04:46 JenW ->  thanks Doug for your voice thread on Vicki's wiki
21:04:50 mrsdurff ->  nite ye all
21:04:50 dougsymington ->  thanks all
21:04:53 dougsymington ->  pleasure
21:05:01 JenW ->  it was cool to see all the entries
21:05:04 lorna ->  nite everyone
21:05:15 PeggyG ->  please post the chat :-)
21:05:22 JenW ->  so is this still live??
21:05:28 PeggyG ->  Good night all :-)
21:05:31 JenW ->  night Peggy
21:05:33 paulrwood ->  YEP
21:05:36 PeggyG ->  Yes, governance board first.
21:05:36 JenW ->  see you tomorrow night??
21:05:54 mrsdurff ->  what defines a retired member?
21:05:56 JenW ->  1 year term
21:05:59 PeggyG ->  Yes Jen I'll definitely be there!
21:06:04 JenW ->  thanks Peggy
21:06:11 JenW ->  I just hope VD will be there...........  :)
21:06:17 JenW ->  she seems to be pretty busy in St Louis
21:06:21 PeggyG ->  stagger the terms
21:06:28 mrsdurff ->  staggering is good
21:06:34 PeggyG ->  you don't want everyone going off at the same time
21:06:36 dougsymington ->  I'm going to miss tomorrow night, sorry to say
21:06:38 JenW ->  Elections in July and December
21:06:40 mrsdurff ->  some start with 3 year terms
21:06:45 dougsymington ->  playing in a golf tourney
21:06:47 JenW ->  overlapping
21:06:50 JenW ->  Doug -- you golf??
21:06:50 mrsdurff ->  some with 2 year terms
21:06:57 PeggyG ->  need the continuity of staggered terms
21:07:03 mrsdurff ->  some with 1 year terms
21:07:08 dougsymington ->  "every change I get" :)
21:07:13 JenW ->  I putt
21:07:13 dougsymington ->  chance
21:07:23 mrsdurff ->  break a leg doug
21:07:28 dougsymington ->  thx
21:07:42 JenW ->  thanks for the conversation
21:07:46 PeggyG ->  one criteria for gov. board eligibility might be having served on the larger council for at least a year
21:08:00 JohnS ->  but then it would take a year to get the board.
21:08:06 JenW ->  but I still think they need to have been a member of ETT -- by having a show -- for 2 months at least
21:08:14 JenW ->  before being able to be voted in
21:08:24 PeggyG ->  ture-but you could make startup an exception to the policy
21:08:25 mrsdurff ->  bye
21:08:30 PeggyG ->  ture :-)
21:08:35 JenW ->  I  like ture
21:08:37 PeggyG ->  true :-)
21:08:37 JenW ->  :)
21:08:44 JenW ->  night guys
21:08:46 JenW ->  heading home
21:09:08 PeggyG ->  You've got it covered. :-)
21:09:20 PeggyG ->  Good night-great conversation!