Parents as Partners Episode #13 October 20, 2008

Post-Show description: 

Aurelio Montemayor from the Intercultural Development Research Association joined the show. Aurelio described a definition of a valued parent leadership, Interent for poor folks without computers and which social media to surf. The chat room was actively engaged in responding to Aurelio's thought provoking approach to parent involvement.

Chat Log

2008-10-20 17:13:59 [Message] aurelio -> -EdTechTalk: hello

2008-10-20 17:14:06 [Message] aurelio -> -EdTechTalk: hello

2008-10-20 17:14:10 [Message] lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hi

2008-10-20 20:54:14 [Message] aurelio -> -EdTechTalk: Hello eveyone

2008-10-20 20:54:27 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: hello...Am I early or late?

2008-10-20 20:54:47 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Scott

2008-10-20 20:54:57 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: We're starting in 5 minutes

2008-10-20 20:55:08 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Great!  Stream on?

2008-10-20 20:57:12 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: steam is OK

2008-10-20 20:57:34 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Stream  OK too :) 

2008-10-20 20:58:28 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: stream good??

2008-10-20 20:58:35 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: t-minus 2 minutes

2008-10-20 20:58:38 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Sounds fine here

2008-10-20 20:58:55 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Levels are well balanced

2008-10-20 20:59:39 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: What's the topic tonight?

2008-10-20 21:00:55 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: hello!

2008-10-20 21:01:29 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: I went to Aurelio's computer...The streaming is AWESOME!

2008-10-20 21:03:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all! Looking forward to tonight's conversation!

2008-10-20 21:03:30 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey ya'll

2008-10-20 21:03:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for joining us on the show...

2008-10-20 21:04:05 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: nice clear audio! Great job!

2008-10-20 21:04:07 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: palo alto?  Just down the street from Leo Laporte....

2008-10-20 21:04:16 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: hello everyone

2008-10-20 21:05:16 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyG  Yes, Great audio tonight!

2008-10-20 21:05:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hold up

2008-10-20 21:05:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: brb

2008-10-20 21:06:00 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: stream died....:{ 

2008-10-20 21:06:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: so Matt disappears and the audio drops??? :-)

2008-10-20 21:06:16 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:  is it back??

2008-10-20 21:06:18 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: hearing blips and burps

2008-10-20 21:06:21 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: it should b

2008-10-20 21:06:26 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: not yet...

2008-10-20 21:06:27 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry bout that

2008-10-20 21:06:30 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: not yet,,,

2008-10-20 21:06:38 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: communicating with outerspace :) ...

2008-10-20 21:06:58 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: back....

2008-10-20 21:07:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: ah-the familiar Skype call ring :-) welcome back!

2008-10-20 21:07:08 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thankx scott

2008-10-20 21:07:13 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: no prob

2008-10-20 21:07:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: LOL

2008-10-20 21:07:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: give a shout out for Aurelio! 

2008-10-20 21:07:56 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Can't wait to hear more from Aurelio!

2008-10-20 21:08:24 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: IDRA Web link:

2008-10-20 21:08:25 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: the chat room rocks

2008-10-20 21:09:02 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine...agreed!!!

2008-10-20 21:09:15 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: great turn out Matt and Lorna!!

2008-10-20 21:09:41 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I just sent out notices on plurk and twitter about the show...

2008-10-20 21:10:01 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: too bad @HHG couldn't make it, hopefully soon

2008-10-20 21:10:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:   IDRA Podcast Link...

2008-10-20 21:10:36 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: yes, great turn out penny...thanks to everyone for joining us 2nite

2008-10-20 21:10:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello frank2

2008-10-20 21:10:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I get some of my best professional development listening to podcasts while I work out. :-)

2008-10-20 21:11:16 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I do mine on the drive to work...15 hrs a week

2008-10-20 21:12:02 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: wow, scott...quite a commute not doubt!

2008-10-20 21:12:16 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: oops...I meant *no

2008-10-20 21:12:27 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: welcome aurelio - thanks for sharing your ideas here

2008-10-20 21:12:30 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @scott -- work out or podcasts:) :) 

2008-10-20 21:12:40 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: 105 miles each day.  I hope to live close to school when I start teaching!

2008-10-20 21:12:50 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: "Beyond the Bakesale"  Great way to say it...

2008-10-20 21:13:06 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Wow, Scott...what city do u live in??

2008-10-20 21:13:35 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Colette!

2008-10-20 21:13:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for coming back!

2008-10-20 21:13:45 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I live in Wheatfield, Indiana 46392.  I work at US Steel in Gary, Indiana.

2008-10-20 21:13:51 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt - browser crash :(

2008-10-20 21:13:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I started using the book "Beyond the Bakesale" years ago when I was a principal. Awesome and valuable to recognize that parents can be involved in so many ways besides class parties and fundraising!

2008-10-20 21:14:04 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Colette...did I meet you at ILC last week??

2008-10-20 21:14:11 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Yep!!!

2008-10-20 21:14:18 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: ha!  Thought so...

2008-10-20 21:14:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: had a great time at was fun meeting you and all the others from the twitterworld...

2008-10-20 21:14:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think Listening is such an important point!!!

2008-10-20 21:15:09 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy...I'm going to have to put that one on my reading list...

2008-10-20 21:15:26 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: any other Parent involvement reads that anyone recommends??

2008-10-20 21:15:41 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @matt and Peggy -- ordering it from the library right now!!

2008-10-20 21:15:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Good decision!

2008-10-20 21:16:08 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk:

2008-10-20 21:16:39 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Most of the parent involvement in my school revolves around fundraising or athletic support (private school)  - would love more LEARNING focus / student focus

2008-10-20 21:17:10 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that listening is so critical because parents are usually "suspect" of the school's agenda and don't think they really want to hear from them

2008-10-20 21:17:29 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @colette -- it's a long road to crack into that type of involvement but worth it I hope

2008-10-20 21:17:46 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Each quarter I try to give at least one Family tech assignment

2008-10-20 21:18:19 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah Aurelio!

2008-10-20 21:18:41 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @colette...that is a nice idea...getting the students and parents to engage in a tech assigment collaboratively at home...I like it...

2008-10-20 21:18:42 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: I like your idea about building community many areas we lack "community", even in upper middle class suburbs

2008-10-20 21:19:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: not all parents want to be involved in the decisionmaking for the school but they are about their kids and want what's best for them.

2008-10-20 21:19:17 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine...sometimes I think there is less community in upper middle class suburbs...

2008-10-20 21:19:39 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: @matt - agreed!

2008-10-20 21:19:39 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: care about their kids-missed a key :-(

2008-10-20 21:20:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG...BINGO!  I find that most parents just want to help their kids succeed and have a positive experience in schooll...they don't want to b involved in pedagogical decisions...

2008-10-20 21:20:27 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i tell my HS kids to go home and teach their parents tech skills - but to be patient teachers 

2008-10-20 21:21:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what a great story Aurelio!

2008-10-20 21:22:06 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: that student was showing parents how to navigate online  AYP reports cards... a very daunting task

2008-10-20 21:22:52 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I read a great quote on the National Math Report today-change the focus from ability to effort--so many people think they can't do math (or technology) and it's important for them to focus on effort and they will realize they "can"

2008-10-20 21:23:03 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk:  she was not only navigating the Texas website but explaining the concept of AYP in depth

2008-10-20 21:23:06 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @hector...good stuff...I find that many kids have natural patience, which makes them naturally good teachers

2008-10-20 21:23:18 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: the technology is allowing us to share information, therefore share power...but some people (on all sides) don't like to share power

2008-10-20 21:23:46 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine -- I see that too but slowly it is softening 

2008-10-20 21:23:58 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: We find ... time and time again.. that kids in at risk situations are often the best teahers if their talents are valued

2008-10-20 21:24:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @jeannine-yes, sadly there are still many teachers and schools who do not welcome parent involvement because of desire to maintain control

2008-10-20 21:25:18 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think kids take tremendous pride when their parents begin to learn to use the technology (especially when they are the ones teaching them) :-)

2008-10-20 21:25:29 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: "it is clear that children who have computers and a good internet access at home have an advantage" good quote from Aurelio

2008-10-20 21:25:50 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: I can get it

2008-10-20 21:26:00 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thankx hector...I can't find it

2008-10-20 21:27:09 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @matt -- how do you convince parents that the computers/internet have value to kids -- so  many believe it is just  waste of time

2008-10-20 21:27:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I love his definition of "parent leader"!

2008-10-20 21:29:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes! parents don't know how to get involved and when you break tasks down into small, manageable pieces they feel there is something they can do.

2008-10-20 21:29:48 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...well, I'm in a position and at a school where the community values it...I suppose we r influenced a bit by the silicon valey.  BUT, traditional instructional methods are still highly valued, and this can b the challenge.  But again, I find that parents understand the notion that we need to prepare kids for their future, not our past...they get it better than many other school stakeholders...

2008-10-20 21:30:00 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg you are right -- sometimes the task seems so big you don't know where to start

2008-10-20 21:30:45 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG.  YES!  baby steps work well for parents.  Some will always take baby steps, but a few will quickly RUN!

2008-10-20 21:30:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: lay persons language! absolutely!! I used to hate all of the acronyms (actually still do!) you have to interpret the code before you know what they're talking about!

2008-10-20 21:31:10 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG...too many TLA s!!!

2008-10-20 21:31:25 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: the lack of knowledge in tech goes across the board -- educated and non

2008-10-20 21:31:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: What's a TLA??? :-)

2008-10-20 21:31:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: TLA=Three Letter Aconym :) 

2008-10-20 21:31:46 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I rest my case :-)

2008-10-20 21:31:47 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: *acronym...I can't spell

2008-10-20 21:32:31 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: we are having a student led tech info night on wed -- maybe if parents actually came they would see the value that the kids are deriving

2008-10-20 21:32:52 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: parents really need to be a big part of our push to use web2.0 tools and methods in schools...they can't be left out of this because it is too complicated and it takes a village...

2008-10-20 21:33:20 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...b sure to record sessions and post them for the many parents who won't b able to come...if u can of course

2008-10-20 21:33:33 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: student-led tech nights can be powerful! Good for you!

2008-10-20 21:33:36 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: It took my son getting a cell phone to get my wife AND mother to start texting...

2008-10-20 21:33:49 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: some parents are are web 2.0 users with their students but the schools and not all of the educators are accepting

2008-10-20 21:34:13 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @particpativeparent... TrueDat

2008-10-20 21:34:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @ParticipativeParent-I definitely agree!

2008-10-20 21:34:32 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @PP -- that is where I am at -- doubt they would ever let me post the sessions -- but good idea Matt -- I'll call tommorrow and try!

2008-10-20 21:36:01 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: Past PTSA pres that listened and found more information and connections with the students than the parents through Web 2.0 and free computer and scholarship workshops at the local library

2008-10-20 21:36:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-yes that can be very threatening to school administrators. One of our local districts starting videotaping and posting the Governing board meetings and the community loved it! thousands of hits/viewing from people who obviously aren't attending the meetings. :-)

2008-10-20 21:36:08 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: This is a podcast from Aurelio and IDRA that Lorna recommends...beware, it will start playing as an mp2

2008-10-20 21:36:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Definitely listen to that podcast! It is loaded with great suggestions!

2008-10-20 21:36:58 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...if you can record and post them, then more parents in the community can feel involved and part of the game (I know u know this already and I know I am stating the obvious)

2008-10-20 21:37:34 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @matt may need some technical help to make it happen ;-)

2008-10-20 21:37:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Aurelio-how do you handle language issues in your parent meetings and forums? Do you provide translators?

2008-10-20 21:38:01 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Will taping and posting the meetings on teh web chase some people away?

2008-10-20 21:38:27 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:

2008-10-20 21:38:59 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: penny...if you can get your school to buy a few cheap auido recorders, then posting the audio  online becomes very easy...u can even post it on a wiki

2008-10-20 21:38:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Scott-good point--sometimes participants don't want to be recorded. But I think it's still worth suggesting! 

2008-10-20 21:39:09 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy--- We normally code switch... 

2008-10-20 21:39:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that is a link to the olympus voice recorder that I use

2008-10-20 21:39:20 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: thnx matt!

2008-10-20 21:39:32 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what is code switch?

2008-10-20 21:39:35 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @penny...just a thought...

2008-10-20 21:39:57 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy.. code switching means that we speak in English and Spanish

2008-10-20 21:40:02 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: back and forth

2008-10-20 21:40:05 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: A different take on web posting - a Chemistry teacher shared at ILC2008 how he posts recorded chemistry screencast lessons on his website for student review and he received a lot of parent feedback saying thanks - they needed to screentips to help their own students

2008-10-20 21:40:22 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @aurelio -- you are right there is always still a place for fundraising and other traditional roles -- some just wish to be involved in other ways

2008-10-20 21:40:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I take my Olympus digital audio recorder to all my meetings because it helps me to remember afterwards and let's me focus on the people and conversation during the meeting rather than taking notes.

2008-10-20 21:41:15 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I love the passion on Aurelio's voice....

2008-10-20 21:41:17 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @coletteC...that presentation at ILC was a big take-away for me

2008-10-20 21:41:35 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @scott...agreed...very passionate...I'm a fan!

2008-10-20 21:41:45 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @scott -- I think you may be right about scaring some away at the beginning by taping but eventually it may become more accepted

2008-10-20 21:41:46 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: @aurelio - no worry about soapbox, your passion comes through...

2008-10-20 21:41:50 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes ColetteC-sometimes just modeling valuable uses of the technology such as screencasts helps parents to be more supportive!

2008-10-20 21:42:30 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG...that is how I use mine at conferences as well...freeds me up to think and then of course I can post it for others to listen to

2008-10-20 21:42:32 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg wonder if that's the way -- find value added for parents and let that bring them in

2008-10-20 21:43:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes code switching makes so much sense. We have had meetings where we had interpreters for both Spanish and English and also sign language interpreters. :-)

2008-10-20 21:44:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @penny-I think that's a great strategy! They don't understand the value until they see it modeled.

2008-10-20 21:44:08 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: the students are great bridges at the high school level

2008-10-20 21:44:50 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that is the great thing about virutal communities...they break down barriers of educational background, socio-economic status...etc

2008-10-20 21:45:05 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: that's what's missing at our PTA -- the conversation vs downloading of information

2008-10-20 21:45:12 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the conversation is the key! That is such a great point. If you're only presenting information people aren't that interested.

2008-10-20 21:45:43 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: they don't come because they expect that it will be the school people telling them things.

2008-10-20 21:46:15 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggyg -- that is what it is -- at least at my school and they don't understand why they can't get parents out

2008-10-20 21:47:00 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: twitter ID Aurelio??

2008-10-20 21:47:08 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: i especially love the idea that the students are involved too

2008-10-20 21:47:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: such a practical way to approach it--ask them about a problem they would like to help solve--then LISTEN to what they have to say.

2008-10-20 21:48:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: powerful! facilitate the authentic conversations! At first they won't trust you but once they see you really want to listen to what they have to share they will come back

2008-10-20 21:48:20 [Message] aurelio -> -EdTechTalk: aureliom twitter

2008-10-20 21:48:25 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: students are the captive stakeholders in the school system someone needs to listen to them

2008-10-20 21:49:06 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely! students need to be heard and encouraged too!

2008-10-20 21:49:20 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:

2008-10-20 21:49:49 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Aurelio's blog:

2008-10-20 21:50:02 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for twitter url-just started following! too good to miss!

2008-10-20 21:50:17 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I'm following also....Thanks!

2008-10-20 21:50:23 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: me 2

2008-10-20 21:51:03 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Internet links for poor folks wihtout computers? post by Aurelio: 

2008-10-20 21:51:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:

2008-10-20 21:51:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: cell phones can often be tools for involvement too (if they don't have computers). They are computers in their pockets. :-)

2008-10-20 21:52:00 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Nice link....tnx matt

2008-10-20 21:52:03 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Which soical media waves to surf: 

2008-10-20 21:52:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:

2008-10-20 21:52:15 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: how about cell phones?

2008-10-20 21:52:29 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: think you have to find the parents and connect there rather than create a place and expect them to come

2008-10-20 21:53:17 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I like the idea to leverage cell phones...they can b useful tools to connect (think of all the content that can b posted online now via cell phone)

2008-10-20 21:53:21 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @oebbt-that is a really good point--if it's just meetings at the school they probably won't come

2008-10-20 21:53:55 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that message was for penny-fingers on wrong keys :-(

2008-10-20 21:53:59 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: many developing nations r leap frogging expensive desktops computers/laptop computers altogether in favor of cheap cell phones

2008-10-20 21:54:13 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk:  Text Google for info -  students are using for info, vocab development, asking questions

2008-10-20 21:54:24 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: @aurelio - the media is changing so often...and the way we use it too...cell phones do seem to be the most prevalent

2008-10-20 21:54:25 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @collete...good call

2008-10-20 21:54:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: you can use the cell phones in a meeting to get their responses during a meeting with something like polleverywhere. really valuable feedback on the spot!

2008-10-20 21:55:02 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: that's kind of a generation gap -- cell phones

2008-10-20 21:55:05 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @collette..excuse the pun too

2008-10-20 21:55:17 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: :)

2008-10-20 21:55:30 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: we brought up cell phones at the last PTSA meeting and teachers said students were too poor for internet access. APs disagreed and used their phones to access the net...and I told the old school teachers that I would look for their pics and vids on YouTube and MySpace

2008-10-20 21:56:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the research is showing cell phones are everywhere and an untapped resource! look at the results from the Speak Up 2008 surveys! Powerful!

2008-10-20 21:56:52 [Message] Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: gotta put the kids 2 bed....good nite all

2008-10-20 21:56:55 [Message] Liz -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyG AMEN!

2008-10-20 21:57:12 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes! wisdome of the crowds! I learn so much everytime I participate in these webcasts!

2008-10-20 21:57:58 [Message] hector -> -EdTechTalk: Vox populi, vox dei

2008-10-20 21:58:25 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: looking forward to taht show in early November, Cindy!

2008-10-20 21:58:58 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That sounds like a great conversation--date again?

2008-10-20 21:59:17 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: listened to a clay shirkey talk 2nite that talked about organizations willing to sacrafice 25% of the content to only deal with a few top producers -- that seems like what we do on PTA etc --  the challenge is how do we create an environment to get all the input no matter how small?

2008-10-20 21:59:40 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: bullying - all part of teaching digital citizenship

2008-10-20 22:00:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great point penny! is the talk online somewhere (Shirkey)?

2008-10-20 22:00:24 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @colettec i think that's really key -- citizenship vs just bullying

2008-10-20 22:00:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Wonderful conversation! Thank you Aurelio! You are an inspiration!

2008-10-20 22:00:46 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Aurelio

2008-10-20 22:00:48 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG -- it is -- I got it on itunes 

2008-10-20 22:00:54 [Message] aurelio -> -EdTechTalk: My pleasure

2008-10-20 22:01:02 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Aurelio

2008-10-20 22:01:12 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggyg I think the talk at new york law

2008-10-20 22:01:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thanks penny-I'll look for it!

2008-10-20 22:01:36 [Message] jeannine -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks to the Parents as Partners TEAM - #13 was great - thanks for sharing your passion Aurelio!

2008-10-20 22:01:47 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Aurelio!!!!!

2008-10-20 22:02:04 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Lorna, Matt and Cindy too! Fantastic show!

2008-10-20 22:04:38 [Message] ColetteC -> -EdTechTalk: podcasting on a cell phone with gabcast or gcast

2008-10-20 22:07:17 [Message] ParticipativeParent -> -EdTechTalk: techie parents have to collaborate with the F2F people but the students

2008-10-20 22:08:28 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanx everyone for participating!!!

2008-10-20 22:11:40 [Message] penny -> -EdTechTalk: dang missed the last little bit of the after show -- great show -- guys -- gnite


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