2009-05-28 Seedlings
This show was such a great show. Out of the ordinary, but the very foundation and core of all we do in our schools. The conversations were about how our schools have changed and we are monitoring the sugar intake of our students, kinds of rewards for good behavior, giving more time for exercise, yoga, movement. Join us in this fascinating look at how we can change the culture of our schools.
Welcome to Seedlings and 5-2-1-0! with Bob, Alice, Cheryl and Rick Fortier and Heidi Kessler from the http://www. Letsgo.org foundation.
Chat:
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Just getting things ready!! |
bobsprankle -> hi all! |
hk -> hello! |
carolteach4 -> should we be hearing anything? My realplayer is spinning trying to connect |
alice barr (seedlings) -> NOt streaming yet |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Almost! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> sound check please from the room? |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Can you hear us? |
carolteach4 -> nothing yet |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> In 20 sec. |
bobsprankle -> can you hear us? |
bmcnaboe -> can only hear cheryl |
annefraser -> heard 'it is...' |
loonyhiker -> i hear someone now |
loonyhiker -> i am playing u thru windows media |
annefraser -> ok now |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Thanks loonyhiker! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> YEAH |
loonyhiker -> i hear all of u now :) |
carolteach4 -> hi bob, cheryl, alice and all |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Letsgo.org |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Hi carolteach! |
loonyhiker -> i'm still trying to get back into the routine of attending the webcasts that i like |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Rick and Heidi don't be afraid to speak right up. |
loonyhiker -> sorry, i clicked the link and it closed my window |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Loonyhiker, I enjoyed watching y our travels this winter. |
loonyhiker -> all of the shows u do r great podcasts! :) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> 5-2-1-0 is the moniker |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl thank u :) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Thanks Loonyhiker! glad you liked the podcasts, did they travel well? |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi Anne, Ben, Carolteach4, kcaise, loonyhiker |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> I like that , a tool kit! |
bmcnaboe -> hi everyone |
bobsprankle -> the binders are really amazing! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hey Ben, I will see you tomorrow. |
bmcnaboe -> @ cheryl yes you will! very excited!!! |
annefraser -> Hi all - great to be here |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://letsgo.org/ |
carolteach4 -> Is this mainly aimed at K-6 or middle school, too? |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> This is the great website |
bobsprankle -> http://www.mmc.org/mmc_body.cfm?id=3614 |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> We use it at all our schools K-12 |
loonyhiker -> i like the recipes from the page (not for my students but for my hubby and me) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> GReat loonyhiker! |
kcaise -> hi everyone |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl i lived on your podcasts which was great when i was in the car for a long travel day - hubby even listened to some of them w/ me |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> I like the comparison of canned and frozen food facts! it is a pdf |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> So, we are a family show, great for traveling. |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl caused lots of discussion and debate btween me and hubby - kept us mentally alert during drive :) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> That is great to hear! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Do your schools sell soda during the school day? |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Ben can you type what kind of new vending machine we have |
loonyhiker -> our high school had vending machines galore w/ soft drinks and our school made lots of $ from it |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> I like this schools are like snowflakes, each unique. |
alice barr (seedlings) -> We have this very cool new vending machine |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello Durff! Does your school sell soda during the day in vending machines? |
alice barr (seedlings) -> That sells organic snacks |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello bauwarter |
mrsdurff -> mmm...food.... |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Oh, Alice that is cool organic |
bmcnaboe -> @alicebarr I LOVE our new vending machine....very hightech...you can use a credit card on it now |
loonyhiker -> i think parents should be encouraged to check out this site |
mrsdurff -> our school has vending machines that sell water until 3:15 |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @BEn what kind of food? |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> I would like credit card vending. |
loonyhiker -> oh no, if i can use a credit card, i would buy more - not good lol |
mrsdurff -> soda was sold last year |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> SAme at our school Durff. |
mrsdurff -> at the request of teachers that was limited to after school this year |
alice barr (seedlings) -> NO more soda for us |
carolteach4 -> No soda for students |
alice barr (seedlings) -> And we now have an organic garden! |
bmcnaboe -> @alicebarr there are lots of organic chips/crackers, cliff bars, seltzers, energy drinks |
mrsdurff -> or should i say my previous school |
carolteach4 -> No candy sale fundraisers anymore either |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.mmc.org/mmc_body.cfm?id=3614 here is the other link for 5-2-1-0 |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.letsgo.org |
bmcnaboe -> @alicebarr the school garden is going REALLY well...mym moms one of the master gardeners |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> carol that is interesting it was a big money raiser! |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @Ben that's cool. Do you help? |
mrsdurff -> our school music department sells cupcakes once a month |
mrsdurff -> sigh |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> durff are they good cupcakes? |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @mrsdurff YUM |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> we still need some! |
loonyhiker -> we were discouraged from walking on our planning or lunch time |
mrsdurff -> depends on who baked - not nutrituos |
loonyhiker -> principal felt we should not be walking on paid time |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @loonyhiker But better work out of you if you walk, no? |
mrsdurff -> previous school had unpaid lunches so we walked |
loonyhiker -> @alice i agree and i think we r setting good role models for our students |
carolteach4 -> Our school had a completely different approach to exercise for teachers; in fact there was a contest on for faculty - logging laps around the building during prep or lunch time |
mrsdurff -> that's great! |
loonyhiker -> @carol wow u r so lucky |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> loonyhiker not being able to walk on planning time, hm, or lunch? that is absurd. |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @carolteach4 Nice! |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl i agree - it was all about control w/ this principal - i think if she suggested it, it would have been okay |
loonyhiker -> she thought getting that money from vending was more important than good health |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> things are changing now |
loonyhiker -> oh, and my principal was not very...healthy looking |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @Loonyhiker sad that the candy machines are such revune generators |
hk -> you all are mentioning common barriers. you're not alone |
hk -> vending does create revenue, but other revenue streams can be created |
bmcnaboe -> here is an article about our school garden which provides valuable educations and food for our cafes http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=178089&ac=PHnws |
hk -> healthy snacks also sell |
carolteach4 -> I have been using streams downloaded from EdTechTalk and transferred to my Creative mp3 player to help me on my walks around the neighborhood after school - really makes walking time go faster-feel like I'm multitasking |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> BEn, thanks for sharing that article!!! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> carolteach4, that is great you are taking your Professional development with you. |
loonyhiker -> that's good to hear that the kids are talking about it at home |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hell csitterly, Hi LindaN!! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> oops Hello!! |
mrsdurff -> nearvy district has elementary school where first 10 mins of recess are walking a track for all grades |
LindaN -> Hi ALL! |
mrsdurff -> hi linda |
LindaN -> Hi Durff! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> durff, our middle schoolers walk the track with teachers before school and recess |
loonyhiker -> news told about local young boy who is 550 lbs. -mom and him were wanted by police cuz they ran away - DSS was trying to take boy away cuz mom wouldn't put him on a diet |
mrsdurff -> wow |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> At least the stores are selling those mini cupcakes |
mrsdurff -> hi csitterly |
loonyhiker -> mom felt it was too cruel to make him exercise or diet |
csitterley -> Hi everyone |
LindaN -> We have a policy that only allows healthy snacks- no more cupcakes |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> That is too bad for that Mom and Boy. |
bmcnaboe -> @linda so do we |
bmcnaboe -> its called "wellness policy" |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Linda, that is great, more awareness. |
LindaN -> Lots of fruit, soft pretzels |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> evening Matt! |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @Linda N so do we! |
bmcnaboe -> students were on committee to establish it with admins |
matt montagne -> hello cheryl and all! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Good Plan Ben to have students, teachers and admin. |
carolteach4 -> whole pieces of fruit never seem to go over big, but fruit cut up and attractively presented is usually welcomed |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> absolutely, carol, everyone loves to nibble fruit. |
csitterley -> No homemade snacks are allowed in our classes- also only 1 candy or cookie per child at parties- must have carrots, apples etc. |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.letsgo.org |
mrsdurff -> school where i am has fruit break at 10 for elementary |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.mmc.org/mmc_body.cfm?id=3614 |
mrsdurff -> teachers supposed to only allow fruits |
LindaN -> We even have a Go Green week in March where we celebrate good food, have taste testing of "green" foods |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> EAch website has some resources for schools to set up new protocols with support for schools going healthy |
mrsdurff -> green eggs and ham? |
loonyhiker -> we have to b careful in classes because of peanut allergies |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> evening pvil |
bmcnaboe -> @linda we had a day last year for go green where if you had three or more people in your car (carpooling) you would get a prize |
csitterley -> Our cafeteria manager does food tasting a few times each year where kids can try foods they would not normally eat |
hk -> food tasting are great ways to get kids to eat new foods |
bmcnaboe -> we also have SNAC (school nutrition advisory council) at our HS..all kids |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> all those things Ben are good for changing the culture |
csitterley -> Thanks for the links-I will share with our wellness committee and also our cafeteria manager |
matt montagne -> we're all running up a greased hill on this one |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> That is great csitterley, glad this is helpful. |
matt montagne -> US Farm Policy gives us cheap garbage to eat |
matt montagne -> I can't find any healthy snacks without HFCS for example... |
carolteach4 -> One of our 7th grade teams is reading Seedfolks, a short novel about about the joy of community gardens; many communities have used the book to read community wide |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @matt you said it! Tough to deal with processed food |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Matt, Maine farmers are providing more fresh veggies and fruit for our school lunches. |
loonyhiker -> we tried worm composting and i wasn't allowed to have any food scraps for composting |
matt montagne -> @cheryl...awesome...glad to see the whole food/slow food movement is making its way into our schools...rays of hope |
csitterley -> It was difficult when first starting, but things are calmer now-still some difficulty when inexpensive small rewards are needed-but making gains |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> That is a really interesting fact about sugar and chocolate milk! Oh, my. |
bmcnaboe -> we also have a farm and school garden dinner in our cafe every year....great way to get parents and community involved |
loonyhiker -> why can't some school systems use common sense |
carolteach4 -> No milk higher than 2% milk fat is allowed; we still sell chocolate milk. |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Matt, slowly, very slowly, but kids like the fresh stuff! |
mrsdurff -> i would choose soymilk |
matt montagne -> we need to get michael pollan on seedlings!!! |
matt montagne -> He wrote omnivore's dillema |
bmcnaboe -> we have choc and van soymilk in our cafe now |
matt montagne -> I don't buy the argument that students will only eat hot dogs, fries, and chips...that is bunk |
mrsdurff -> flavored soymilk is high in sugar |
carolteach4 -> I've switched to soycreamer - 15 calories per TBS in my coffee - usually drink it black but sometimes a bit of creamer is comforting |
mrsdurff -> i like plain |
loonyhiker -> i thought there was research that if u give kids healthy choices, they will pick the right foods but the key is giving them healthy choices |
LindaN -> @matt Montagne I so agree with you- they love good fresh food. |
matt montagne -> I like the modeling that Google is doing with the development of healthy food systems |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> carolteach4, i do like cream and milk in coffee and tea, yum |
LindaN -> ust check out how much they throw out at lunch |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> matt can you share a link for that? |
matt montagne -> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/0... |
carolteach4 -> There was a study not too long ago on the power of the McDonald's wrapper; kids chose healthy foods wrapped in a McDonald's wrapper far more than they did just in plain wrapping |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks Matt, it will be part of the show ! |
matt montagne -> google cafe 150 is what it is called...all food in that particular cafe at google is procured within a 150 mile zone |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> evening Peggy! |
csitterley -> We actually had some students send a petition to our cafeteria manager complaining about food choices, so now there are students on an advisory committee that meets with her throughout the year. |
PeggyG -> Hi-so sorry I'm late!! |
kcaise -> hi peggy! |
PeggyG -> Hi all! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Peggy, I will give you a late pass. |
LindaN -> @csitterley- that is so fantastic |
PeggyG -> Thanks and I'll definitely listen to the recording!! :-) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> yes, student power! csitterley |
carolteach4 -> I am going to share the links with our phys ed teacher, health teacher, and school nurse to begin with, but the other curricular integration sounds terrific, too! |
loonyhiker -> link to sad article about 555lb. boy http://www.wyff4.com/news/19566400/detail.html |
LindaN -> I had the OT come and teach us exercises to help us engage all parts of our brains before we begin working |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> great article in Edutopia this month, Get Fit, Get Smart! check it out, by Vanessa Richardson! |
carolteach4 -> School in China have mass exercise a part of the school day, I believe. |
carolteach4 -> Schools |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> We had a show/podcast about Yoga in the Classroom, excellent companion to this show? |
loonyhiker -> i think it is so important that tchrs get involved in health of students if parents won't or don't know how |
bmcnaboe -> The Sidartha schoo in Tibet does a lot of exercise throughout the day |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl i missed that one, gotta go find it |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> yes, we need to look at the whole child and this is a big part. |
csitterley -> We have to tie everything to student achievement (which translates to bubble tests) so that is good information to encourage participation |
matt montagne -> It is clear that people of all ages are moving less. |
PeggyG -> This reminds me of my principal days. :-) We always started our morning announcements with exercises for just that reason--to get the brain thinking and to transition into school from anything that may have happened on the way to school. Great "wake up" routine. |
carolteach4 -> We have no recess at our middle school. Kids get 20 minutes for lunch including traveling time to and from cafeteria, and that's it. |
loonyhiker -> researching about health would involve reading and science standards, keeping records and charts would involve math standards |
carolteach4 -> They do get gym every other day. |
matt montagne -> had a great talk with Alice Mercer's husband last year on Earthcast about his efforts to get people back on bikes |
LindaN -> Learning how to take frequent breaks - get up and stretch, exercise really helps the studens be engaged and they actually accomplish more |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Peggy, you are so right on getting kids and teachers active! |
matt montagne -> amazing how the US Govt wants to look to schools to teach health lifestyles...I think the US Govt needs to take a look in the mirror at what their farm policy has done to our diet |
PeggyG -> http://www.edutopia.org/exercise-fitness-brain-benefits-learning |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Thanks peggy, you always have our backs! |
PeggyG -> I just can't wait to explore the resources :-) |
loonyhiker -> and different US govt dept. need to get together - one dept. tends to contradict the other |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> can anyone view this edutopia or do they have to be a member? |
PeggyG -> you can view it without logging in |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks Peggy, I wasn't sure. |
loonyhiker -> i can see it and i'm not a member |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> ok, that is good you are checking for me. |
carolteach4 -> I joined Edutopia as a matter of principal - only $35.00 per year, and I'm so grateful for all their resources. |
PeggyG -> Although Edutopia has such fantastic resources that it's well worth considering a membership!! Lots of additional resources for members. :-) |
loonyhiker -> as a retired tchr, it is hard to join all the great things out there :( |
PeggyG -> @carolteach4--you and I are on the same wavelength :-) |
loonyhiker -> i want them all!! |
carolteach4 -> You have to pick and choose. |
PeggyG -> I have the same problem loonyhiker!! retired and still want it all! |
sheila -> Better late than never! Hi all! |
alice barr (seedlings) -> HI sheila |
loonyhiker -> @peggyG and when i was working, i didn't seem to have the time or energy to do all this - now i wish i knew then what i knew now |
carolteach4 -> I have some great healty recipes for low-fat bran muffins with fruit and gingerbread with applesauce as its main source of moistness. Can I post these on the Seedlings NING? |
PeggyG -> Hi Sheila--I'm glad I wasn't the last one in!! :-) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi Shelia, we are talking school healthy choices food and exercise http://letsgo.org |
alice barr (seedlings) -> GREAT idea Carolteach4! |
loonyhiker -> @carol those sound really good |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.mmc.org/mmc_body.cfm?id=3614 |
PeggyG -> @lookyhiker-Exactly!!!! I wish I had all of these resources and tools when I was teaching and principaling :-) |
sheila -> Thanks for the update! |
csitterley -> Great links and conversation-gotta go- see everyone again |
loonyhiker -> i will be sharing a lot of this info w/ the teachers taking my 2 grad courses |
carolteach4 -> Maybe someone on the Seedlings NING should start a dialogue with us teachers logging in with our goals to exercise more and eat more healthy foods. |
loonyhiker -> i will be playing clips of the Seedling podcasts too to get them hooked |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Will do right after the show |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Carolteach4 you can start that at the NING! |
loonyhiker -> hubby and i are keeping a food journal including calorie count - amazing how it makes us more conscious about eating more healthy |
alice barr (seedlings) -> YEs at carolteach... Yes please do. I can help if needed |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Loonyhiker this will be great for preservice and graduate classes, thanks!! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> hello Gail, evening. |
PeggyG -> have any of you ever tried having recess before lunch rather than after lunch? We did that when I was a principal in MA and it kept the kids from rushing through their lunch & they actually talked about the food they were eating. :-) |
carolteach4 -> Gee - that hour went quickly! I am hoping to listen in to edtechbrainstorm at 9:00. I'm going to try to go out and walk for 20 minutes after this is over. It's really chilly, but I can put on a jacket. |
gail -> hello sorry to be so late; just checked my email |
loonyhiker -> @cheryl i wish someone had told me about y'all when i was teaching :) |
hk -> evidence for recess before lunch is strong |
gail -> will this talk be in the archive? topic is close to my heart |
sheila -> We do recess before lunch. Seems to work well. |
LindaN -> We fought to have recess before lunch- district changed it to after fo two years and now we are back to what we felt was better for kids |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.letsgo.org |
loonyhiker -> thank you so much for this wonderful conversation about getting healthy! |
PeggyG -> yeah-Geek of the Week time :-) so many wonderful resources tonight!! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.mmc.org/mmc_body.cfm?id=3614 |
alice barr (seedlings) -> http://pandora.com |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Google Maps and Pandora.com Guest Geek |
carolteach4 -> Here is a really wonderful site with all kinds of resources for both physical and mental health: http://learntobehealthy.org/ |
PeggyG -> I love Pandora!! Have installed it on my iPhone :-) |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.eeweek.org/resources/survey.htm |
loonyhiker -> i enjoy pandora too - can hear oldies |
bmcnaboe -> pandora is by far my favorite music site |
bmcnaboe -> and ipod touch |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> portlandfoodcoop.org for so. maine |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.eeweek.org/resources/survey.htm |
bmcnaboe -> if you are all interested in this type of green, healthy stuff, you should look into the new england bioneers conference in the fall at USM |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks Ben! |
bmcnaboe -> I went this year and it was very good |
alice barr (seedlings) -> http://www.slideshare.net/janehart/25-tools-a-toolbox-for-learning-profe... |
alice barr (seedlings) -> http://www.google.com/landing/studytips.html |
bmcnaboe -> @alicebarr saw that google studying on twitter today |
alice barr (seedlings) -> It's great |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Want to use it starting Day 1 nest year |
alice barr (seedlings) -> next |
bmcnaboe -> @alicebarr already showed it to Deb for holocaust research |
alice barr (seedlings) -> And? |
kcaise -> be careful of spezify, the tweets it brings up contain profanity |
bmcnaboe -> haha |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks kcaise, good to know!! |
PeggyG -> another incredible resource for iphones :-) love it! |
carolteach4 -> My son has that app on his Nintendo ds; it is great! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> No show for SEEDLINGS next week. |
carolteach4 -> When is Jim Moulton coming on? |
PeggyG -> what an inspiring show tonight! thank you all! I need to listen to the recording to hear what I missed!! |
carolteach4 -> I thought he was today. |
carolteach4 -> This show was really great. |
PeggyG -> wow! a double show?? what a treat!! |
alice barr (seedlings) -> @carolteach we had to rebook him Big tech conference tomorrow |
carolteach4 -> Thanks Jeff and Dave! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks again for the chat room!! |
bmcnaboe -> @cheryl @bobsprankle see you both tomorrow AM at UMO!! |
loonyhiker -> thanks y'all! i always feel so inspired after this! |
PeggyG -> Congrats to Sheila for her Earthcast Echo broadcast today!! Great quizzes!! |
cheryloakes~seedlings -> great show!!! |
alice barr (seedlings) -> Congrats Sheila |
sheila -> We tried! Thanks for being there Peggy! |
loonyhiker -> good nite y'all! |
carolteach4 -> Good night - going for my quick walk |
PeggyG -> They did a great job!!! |
PeggyG -> Night all!! |
LindaN -> GooGod Night ALl! |
sheila -> Thanks! Looking forward to the parts I missed! |
LindaN -> Good Night All! |
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