K12 Online Fireside Chat: Diego Leal
Fireside Chat with Week 2 Keynote: Diego Leal
View Diego Leal's presentation, Kicking it Out a Notch from the K12 Online Conference 2009. Listen to the lively discussion which followed ( in both English and Spanish). How will we bridge the divide?
Fireside Chat with Diego Leal and Rachel Boyd
View Diego Leal's presentation, Kicking it Out a Notch from the K12 Online Conference 2009. Listen to the lively discussion which followed ( in both English and Spanish). How will we bridge the divide?
2010-01-09 12:54:52 [Message] JoseRodriguez : hola?
2010-01-09 12:59:31 [Message] pgoetz : Good morning (morning in California).
2010-01-09 13:04:46 [Message] JoseRodriguez : good morning.. from Baldwin Park California
2010-01-09 13:04:55 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Hola William bienvenido
2010-01-09 13:05:19 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : hola José Buen dia
2010-01-09 13:07:08 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Hey durff
2010-01-09 13:08:00 [Message] Durff : hey
2010-01-09 13:10:58 [Message] Durff : everyone Twitter now!
2010-01-09 13:12:08 [Message] minervabueno : hola
2010-01-09 13:12:20 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Hola minerva.. bienvenida
2010-01-09 13:12:23 [Message] minervabueno : ya comenzaron???
2010-01-09 13:12:30 [Message] JoseRodriguez : aun no..
2010-01-09 13:12:35 [Message] JoseRodriguez : en unos 20min
2010-01-09 13:12:45 [Message] minervabueno : ok bien....
2010-01-09 13:12:54 [Message] minervabueno : :D
2010-01-09 13:13:01 [Message] JoseRodriguez : blingual chat today.. English and Spanish.. tthanks for your patience
2010-01-09 13:13:20 [Message] minervabueno : okey...
2010-01-09 13:14:28 [Message] Durff : poor Jose
2010-01-09 13:15:27 [Message] JoseRodriguez : :D
2010-01-09 13:15:39 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Hola pilar bienvenida
2010-01-09 13:16:49 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Welcome Margo..
2010-01-09 13:16:49 [Message] Durff : I hear there is life over here
2010-01-09 13:17:00 [Message] Margo Jantzi : [b]Howdy from Virginia
2010-01-09 13:17:01 [Message] JoseRodriguez : staring in 15min.
2010-01-09 13:17:11 [Message] Durff : hola domingo
2010-01-09 13:17:14 [Message] Durff : hi kim
2010-01-09 13:17:19 [Message] kcaise : hi everyone
2010-01-09 13:17:25 [Message] Domingo : hola, buenas tardes
2010-01-09 13:17:33 [Message] Margo Jantzi : [b]Durff Did I just see you at the DEN event too?
2010-01-09 13:17:38 [Message] Pilar Soro : Hola
2010-01-09 13:17:42 [Message] Durff : bien, que tal?
2010-01-09 13:18:16 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Well meant starting but we are "staring"
2010-01-09 13:18:21 [Message] Peggy George : Hi everyone! welcome to another exciting K12 Online Fireside chat!
2010-01-09 13:18:27 [Message] Durff : everyone please twitter
2010-01-09 13:18:45 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Bienvenido Domingo.. gusto de verte por aqui
2010-01-09 13:19:20 [Message] Durff : we are honored to have maria knee here
2010-01-09 13:19:31 [Message] Durff : a cabgirl!
2010-01-09 13:19:51 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Maria is in the house..
2010-01-09 13:21:10 [Message] Durff : brb
2010-01-09 13:23:09 [Message] wfryer : greetings all!
2010-01-09 13:23:22 [Message] Durff : hi
2010-01-09 13:23:40 [Message] Durff : hey Diego!
2010-01-09 13:23:48 [Message] Diego Leal : Hi everyone!
2010-01-09 13:24:24 [Message] JoseRodriguez : Welcome Diego
2010-01-09 13:24:32 [Message] Peggy George : Just getting started-stream will start soon
2010-01-09 13:24:53 [Message] wfryer : Diego is in Bogota, Colombia today!
2010-01-09 13:24:57 [Message] Durff : Welcome elisabeth
2010-01-09 13:24:58 [Message] Peggy George : welcome everyone! great to have you with us!
2010-01-09 13:25:10 [Message] Diego Leal : Greetings from Bogota, Colombia!
2010-01-09 13:25:46 [Message] [email protected] : Hello from Wilmette, Illinois, USA (very snowy)
2010-01-09 13:26:09 [Message] dasava : Hola, desde Motril, Granada
2010-01-09 13:27:42 [Message] Scott Shelhart : Hi all. Is there audio?
2010-01-09 13:27:55 [Message] Durff : sdoon
2010-01-09 13:28:00 [Message] Peggy George : no audio yet-but stream will start in about 2 minutes
2010-01-09 13:28:08 [Message] Scott Shelhart : ok. tnx
2010-01-09 13:28:10 [Message] Durff : very soon scott
2010-01-09 13:28:16 [Message] Durff : hi bjb
2010-01-09 13:28:28 [Message] BJB : Hi, Durff!
2010-01-09 13:28:37 [Message] Durff : every twitter your friends in
2010-01-09 13:28:47 [Message] Scott Shelhart : Page layout is different. I don't see the audio buttons in the upper right of the screen.
2010-01-09 13:28:58 [Message] Susan van Gelder : Audio will be coming in a couple of minutes
2010-01-09 13:29:02 [Message] Durff : we'll tell you scott
2010-01-09 13:29:04 [Message] Peggy George : it will be in the ustream so you can see the video
2010-01-09 13:29:07 [Message] Durff : fear not
2010-01-09 13:29:26 [Message] Scott Shelhart : I ain't skeerd
2010-01-09 13:29:51 [Message] Peggy George : :-)
2010-01-09 13:29:53 [Message] Durff : the only one who came to support RFL in
2010-01-09 13:30:02 [Message] Durff : SL = I guess not
2010-01-09 13:30:30 [Message] Peggy George : stream has started :-)
2010-01-09 13:30:45 [Message] Durff : we have audio
2010-01-09 13:30:54 [Message] Peggy George : this is a very exciting day!!
2010-01-09 13:30:56 [Message] Durff : click the ustream to the right
2010-01-09 13:30:57 [Message] wfryer : Woo hoo, the Spanish stream!
2010-01-09 13:31:01 [Message] Durff : enjoy!
2010-01-09 13:31:07 [Message] Durff : audio is good
2010-01-09 13:31:08 [Message] wfryer : I think Durff confirmed audio!
2010-01-09 13:31:08 [Message] Scott Shelhart : Yep... got it
2010-01-09 13:31:14 [Message] Peggy George : is everyone hearing us?
2010-01-09 13:31:18 [Message] pgoetz : No problem!
2010-01-09 13:31:25 [Message] Durff : there is a slight delay wes
2010-01-09 13:31:30 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : ye I am hearing ot
2010-01-09 13:31:37 [Message] Scott Shelhart : Had to hit the refres button in the ustream window
2010-01-09 13:31:57 [Message] [email protected] : No problem with the audio
2010-01-09 13:31:59 [Message] wfryer : It is great to be in this "less verbose" chat environment :-)
2010-01-09 13:32:06 [Message] Durff : everyone have audio?
2010-01-09 13:32:08 [Message] Peggy George : the new feature with the Spanish presentations is so exciting this year!
2010-01-09 13:32:10 [Message] wfryer : Where is everyone tuning in from today?
2010-01-09 13:32:15 [Message] Durff : hi sal
2010-01-09 13:32:18 [Message] Denise : Yes
2010-01-09 13:32:19 [Message] Pilar Soro : Se oye muy bien
2010-01-09 13:32:22 [Message] Sal : hi
2010-01-09 13:32:27 [Message] wfryer : Edmond, Oklahoma USA
2010-01-09 13:32:31 [Message] Durff : if you don't have audio tell me
2010-01-09 13:32:32 [Message] Sal : nj
2010-01-09 13:32:37 [Message] Sal : no audio
2010-01-09 13:32:38 [Message] Durff : hi jackie
2010-01-09 13:32:46 [Message] pgoetz : San Francisco Bay Area, California
2010-01-09 13:32:52 [Message] Durff : Sal - click arrow on ustream to your right
2010-01-09 13:32:53 [Message] jackiegerstein : Hi Durff - thanks for the twitter ads!
2010-01-09 13:33:00 [Message] Susan van Gelder : Casselman (a small town) Ontario
2010-01-09 13:33:10 [Message] Diego Leal : Bogot√°, Colombia (South America!)
2010-01-09 13:33:14 [Message] wfryer : We have 45 viewers in the ustream now
2010-01-09 13:33:24 [Message] CalArmstrong : Burlington, Ontario (outside Toronto)
2010-01-09 13:33:30 [Message] jackiegerstein : Buenos Dias
2010-01-09 13:33:41 [Message] Peggy George : my typing is so slow today--hopw I don't lose my connection!my
2010-01-09 13:33:45 [Message] Diego Leal : Buenas tardes aquí! :)
2010-01-09 13:34:08 [Message] wfryer : me encanta la opportunidad para aprender in dos linguas hoy!
2010-01-09 13:34:13 [Message] Gabriela : Buenas tardes a todos
2010-01-09 13:34:15 [Message] Sal : this is my first time here
2010-01-09 13:34:21 [Message] Pilar Soro : Buenas tardes desde España
2010-01-09 13:34:22 [Message] Diego Leal : Hola Gabriela!
2010-01-09 13:34:39 [Message] Francisco José : Good evening from Canary Island
2010-01-09 13:34:42 [Message] Gabriela : Hola Diego!
2010-01-09 13:34:43 [Message] wfryer : Jose no habla tan rapido como Diego en su video (Jose isn't talking quite as fast as Diego did in his video!)
2010-01-09 13:34:45 [Message] Sal : I hear now
2010-01-09 13:35:21 [Message] clinds : Hi - Is this in Elluminate too or just in UStream? I couldn't find a link.
2010-01-09 13:35:27 [Message] wfryer : Yeah for superstar bloggers from Latin America!
2010-01-09 13:35:28 [Message] Durff : everyone here have audio?
2010-01-09 13:35:35 [Message] wfryer : @clinds no, not in Elluminate today
2010-01-09 13:35:40 [Message] Durff : clinds - ustream
2010-01-09 13:35:45 [Message] clinds : Thanks!
2010-01-09 13:36:04 [Message] Durff : wb cal
2010-01-09 13:36:09 [Message] Durff : hi linda
2010-01-09 13:36:17 [Message] Peggy George : lost my connection so trying a different browser- :-)
2010-01-09 13:36:18 [Message] Durff : hi pzigg
2010-01-09 13:36:19 [Message] clinds : Is anyone else getting an echo?
2010-01-09 13:36:25 [Message] Durff : no
2010-01-09 13:36:30 [Message] jackiegerstein : no
2010-01-09 13:36:38 [Message] Durff : do you have two windows open?
2010-01-09 13:36:45 [Message] Durff : close one
2010-01-09 13:36:47 [Message] Denise : no echo here
2010-01-09 13:36:52 [Message] clinds : Yep, I'll close everything else. Thanks!
2010-01-09 13:36:58 [Message] Durff : hi dr thomas
2010-01-09 13:37:06 [Message] Peggy George : fantastic to have Diego with us today!! his presentation was fantastic!!
2010-01-09 13:37:07 [Message] Durff : hi matthew
2010-01-09 13:37:12 [Message] [email protected] : no no echo here
2010-01-09 13:37:32 [Message] Durff : hi matt
2010-01-09 13:37:33 [Message] matt montagne : hey all
2010-01-09 13:37:36 [Message] matt montagne : hey durff
2010-01-09 13:37:40 [Message] Cristina Arnau : hi everyone
2010-01-09 13:37:40 [Message] jackiegerstein : and especially since global connection and collaboration should be a common occurance in the classroom
2010-01-09 13:37:45 [Message] matt montagne : thanks for the tweets durff, wes, etc
2010-01-09 13:37:45 [Message] Durff : anyone have audio problems?
2010-01-09 13:38:12 [Message] Durff : watch video on ustream
2010-01-09 13:38:16 [Message] Peggy George : very interesting point about things not being as we thought they were! we still have a lot of work to do!!
2010-01-09 13:38:18 [Message] Durff : to your right
2010-01-09 13:38:33 [Message] Durff : hi stafford
2010-01-09 13:38:39 [Message] matt montagne : this is fairly historic...the first keynote in spanish...
2010-01-09 13:38:40 [Message] clinds : I'm all set with my audio once I closed all my windows - this must just take more bandwith than the usual live classroom 2.0 sessions.
2010-01-09 13:38:40 [Message] Peggy George : no multitasking now--have to read captions :-)
2010-01-09 13:39:00 [Message] kcaise : gonna be hard to read and type in the chat!
2010-01-09 13:39:02 [Message] Peggy George : very clear video, Jose! Super streaming!
2010-01-09 13:39:03 [Message] wfryer : @matt yes, absolutely!
2010-01-09 13:39:09 [Message] Durff : hi jc
2010-01-09 13:39:21 [Message] matt montagne : the subtitles are AWESOME...
2010-01-09 13:39:29 [Message] Sal : I thought I was listening but I was listening to recorded voice messages.
2010-01-09 13:39:40 [Message] Peggy George : captions really help because he talks really fast!! :-)
2010-01-09 13:39:42 [Message] matt montagne : what country is our keynoter from??
2010-01-09 13:39:47 [Message] Durff : to your right sal
2010-01-09 13:39:57 [Message] Diego Leal : I was *very nervous* :)
2010-01-09 13:40:03 [Message] Durff : Diego is now presenting in Spanish
2010-01-09 13:40:04 [Message] wfryer : Diego is from Colombia, but lives in Brazil now
2010-01-09 13:40:16 [Message] matt montagne : ahh, thanks
2010-01-09 13:40:57 [Message] Peggy George : his presentation is here: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=488
2010-01-09 13:41:08 [Message] wfryer : Diego, had you created a presentation like this one previously?
2010-01-09 13:41:20 [Message] Durff : hi pilar
2010-01-09 13:41:35 [Message] Pilar Soro : Hola PIlar B.
2010-01-09 13:41:44 [Message] pilarburillo : hola
2010-01-09 13:41:45 [Message] Durff : too many pilar's
2010-01-09 13:41:57 [Message] matt montagne : wow, this is great Diego...it is a trip back in time for my educational experience as well. "Stay inside the margins."
2010-01-09 13:42:07 [Message] Diego Leal : Actually I did one for a online conference in Colombia, and another one for an event in Chile / De hecho, hice una para una conferencia en línea en Colombia y un evento en Chile..
2010-01-09 13:42:25 [Message] Sal : lost sound
2010-01-09 13:42:31 [Message] Diego Leal : Mental note: Get your notebooks and take pictures of them! :)
2010-01-09 13:42:32 [Message] Peggy George : the video lag gives us a chance to read the captions :-) it will come back
2010-01-09 13:42:34 [Message] wfryer : sound is back
2010-01-09 13:42:38 [Message] Durff : it should return soon
2010-01-09 13:42:39 [Message] matt montagne : This is what was valued, being neat, keeping your notebook tidy, etc...
2010-01-09 13:42:46 [Message] Gabriela : Those notebooks are not very different from the one children have at school now, at least here in Argentina
2010-01-09 13:42:54 [Message] wfryer : we are having a few buffering issues today, but yes, it gives more time for the multi-tasking...
2010-01-09 13:43:05 [Message] Peggy George : you can also view it directly in your browser if that is better for you: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=488
2010-01-09 13:43:07 [Message] Susan van Gelder : It slows Diego down :)
2010-01-09 13:43:12 [Message] Diego Leal : That's why I find them so distressing, Gabriela!!
2010-01-09 13:43:13 [Message] wfryer : @Diego: what have you found most challenging about presenting in this format, compared to face to face?
2010-01-09 13:43:46 [Message] matt montagne : It is cool that you saved all your work Diego!
2010-01-09 13:43:50 [Message] MariaKnee : I used notebooks like that for math when in high school in japan. we had to use a fountain pen for lessons
2010-01-09 13:44:06 [Message] wfryer : I missed that point about the teacher probably not reviewing the work, with the question marks there, the first time I listened to this in Spanish.
2010-01-09 13:44:12 [Message] fjrosac : Hola a todos y todas
2010-01-09 13:44:23 [Message] wfryer : I had an English teacher in high school who my friends and I verified NEVER seemed to fully read our book reports....
2010-01-09 13:44:24 [Message] Diego Leal : @wfryer I need to have a clear script for them. F2F, I can improvise a bit more, based on the reaction of the audience...
2010-01-09 13:44:38 [Message] fjrosac : Buenas Pilar , que se cuece por aqui?????
2010-01-09 13:44:46 [Message] Susan van Gelder : I loved this part
2010-01-09 13:44:47 [Message] wfryer : @fjrosac hola y bienvenidos!
2010-01-09 13:44:56 [Message] Durff : hi fjrosac
2010-01-09 13:45:02 [Message] pgoetz : I use ustream to stream a morning school broadcast, and sometimes get similar streaming issues. Comes with the territory!
2010-01-09 13:45:10 [Message] pzigg : My wife just finished reading In the Name of the Rose. Medieval scribes at work!
2010-01-09 13:45:13 [Message] Durff : it does
2010-01-09 13:45:26 [Message] Peggy George : this is so true--we're still doing many things the way we did hundreds of years ago in education!
2010-01-09 13:45:40 [Message] Susan van Gelder : educating for the past
2010-01-09 13:46:04 [Message] matt montagne : This is incredible...this is historic, folks. Listening to a keynote presentation in another language with transcriptions, with people from all over the place.
2010-01-09 13:46:17 [Message] Peggy George : absolutely!! very exciting day!!
2010-01-09 13:46:21 [Message] Durff : oh calm down matt
2010-01-09 13:46:23 [Message] wfryer : yet this paper and pencil -based learning still predominates in 99% of our schools here in Oklahoma
2010-01-09 13:46:27 [Message] Diego Leal : I do think we need to have a balance: To learn and reflect on the past, and to keep an eye on the things we can improve for the future..
2010-01-09 13:46:37 [Message] MariaKnee : truly briding the divide!
2010-01-09 13:46:43 [Message] MariaKnee : bridging
2010-01-09 13:46:48 [Message] Durff : bridging
2010-01-09 13:46:56 [Message] Durff : hi duma
2010-01-09 13:46:57 [Message] matt montagne : I can't calm down Durff! I work with people all the time who are so unimpressed by things like this...I don't get it.
2010-01-09 13:47:09 [Message] wfryer : Reminds me of the quotation, "The predominate learning tools in the classroom determine the predominant learning tasks for students." - Alan Kay
2010-01-09 13:47:12 [Message] Durff : hi rachel
2010-01-09 13:47:12 [Message] MariaKnee : thanks durff
2010-01-09 13:47:13 [Message] Susan van Gelder : Welcome Rachel
2010-01-09 13:47:16 [Message] wfryer : Hi Rachel!!!
2010-01-09 13:47:24 [Message] dumacornellucian : Hi to all
2010-01-09 13:47:28 [Message] matt montagne : If I were to describe this experience next week to them, very few folks would seem to be interested...
2010-01-09 13:47:29 [Message] Diego Leal : Gee, I was talking extremely fast!!!! *)
2010-01-09 13:47:31 [Message] pilarburillo : Hola Olga
2010-01-09 13:47:36 [Message] Durff : we both work with those types matt
2010-01-09 13:47:39 [Message] Durff : hi joe
2010-01-09 13:47:39 [Message] MariaKnee : Glad you are here, Rachel.
2010-01-09 13:47:44 [Message] Durff : hi sshar
2010-01-09 13:47:50 [Message] Peggy George : the word count is very interesting on your presentation Diego :-)
2010-01-09 13:47:54 [Message] Diego Leal : Hola Olga!
2010-01-09 13:48:05 [Message] Durff : hi lindsey
2010-01-09 13:48:10 [Message] olga : hola
2010-01-09 13:48:17 [Message] Durff : hola
2010-01-09 13:48:19 [Message] matt montagne : @diego...that is the most common mistake when our students create digitial stories...they talk too fast...even our older students, ages 14-18, need to be reminded to speak slowly when creating digital stories.
2010-01-09 13:48:25 [Message] RachelBoyd : Hi to all!
2010-01-09 13:48:28 [Message] lindseybp : HI all
2010-01-09 13:48:34 [Message] olga : estoy perdida
2010-01-09 13:48:34 [Message] wfryer : I loved what these students did on their field trip / museum visit.
2010-01-09 13:48:35 [Message] matt montagne : hello rachel
2010-01-09 13:48:40 [Message] Durff : NZ_Rach in the house
2010-01-09 13:48:44 [Message] Diego Leal : @matt Point taken. ;)
2010-01-09 13:48:45 [Message] olga : es la primera vez que hago esto
2010-01-09 13:48:53 [Message] Susan van Gelder : scribes
2010-01-09 13:48:54 [Message] Peggy George : Welcome Rachel!!
2010-01-09 13:49:04 [Message] olga : :(
2010-01-09 13:49:15 [Message] Gabriela : Hola Olga
2010-01-09 13:49:16 [Message] Durff : olga i speak english
2010-01-09 13:49:17 [Message] Diego Leal : Olga, estamos escuchando la charla y en un momento paramos para preguntas y comentarios..
2010-01-09 13:49:23 [Message] Durff : hi dr mary
2010-01-09 13:49:27 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : something like that happens here in Per√∫
2010-01-09 13:49:30 [Message] wfryer : @olga es la segunda vez para mi, pero la primera vez para verlo con subtitulos en Ingles!
2010-01-09 13:49:39 [Message] pgoetz : Diego's point about not remembering curriculum reminds me of Father Guido Sarducci's "Five Minute University" video. A must see!
2010-01-09 13:50:08 [Message] Peggy George : @pgoetz-do you have a link for that?
2010-01-09 13:50:14 [Message] wfryer : @olga esta bien para escribir in Espanol, otros podemos traducir! Y @durff puedo aprender - rapido ;-)
2010-01-09 13:50:32 [Message] Durff : ich spreche Deutsch wes
2010-01-09 13:50:38 [Message] pilarburillo : Olga has podido entrar?
2010-01-09 13:50:44 [Message] olga : ok, I can write in english too
2010-01-09 13:50:48 [Message] matt montagne : durff, that is three languages now spoken in this chat room
2010-01-09 13:50:53 [Message] pilarburillo : Oh que maravilla
2010-01-09 13:50:55 [Message] wfryer : @pgoetz absolutely, that is a great video and a good illustration. Humor is such an effective way to make points like this about learning...
2010-01-09 13:51:04 [Message] Durff : oi veh = 4
2010-01-09 13:51:14 [Message] matt montagne : :-)
2010-01-09 13:51:23 [Message] Durff : parlez vous francais? = 5
2010-01-09 13:51:25 [Message] Diego Leal : Eu posso escrivir em portugues...
2010-01-09 13:51:29 [Message] wfryer : I wonder if at some point, we'll be using a chat room here that will automatically translate into the language of our choice?
2010-01-09 13:51:33 [Message] matt montagne : 6
2010-01-09 13:51:38 [Message] pgoetz : Father Guido Sarducci Five Minute University on youtube: just google it.
2010-01-09 13:51:45 [Message] Durff : SL does
2010-01-09 13:51:49 [Message] Durff : why not?
2010-01-09 13:51:50 [Message] matt montagne : @wes, I think that is one of the ideas behind Wave
2010-01-09 13:51:53 [Message] olga : je parle français
2010-01-09 13:52:04 [Message] Cristina Arnau : moi aussi
2010-01-09 13:52:05 [Message] Durff : i was kidding olga
2010-01-09 13:52:10 [Message] Susan van Gelder : moi aussi - je viens de Montreal
2010-01-09 13:52:14 [Message] olga : gènial!!
2010-01-09 13:52:27 [Message] matt montagne : I hope we'll have automatic transcriptions on the fly...it will help preserve world languages, me thinks...
2010-01-09 13:52:32 [Message] Peggy George : very interesting question, Wes! I'll bet it's just a matter of time
2010-01-09 13:52:43 [Message] wfryer : estas statisticas son muy importante.
2010-01-09 13:52:52 [Message] Susan van Gelder : Google Wave - there is a translator - tried it out last night
2010-01-09 13:53:21 [Message] wfryer : Diego, you made these points about the ethical obligations we have to transcend these divides very persuasively
2010-01-09 13:53:21 [Message] Diego Leal : I still need to figure out GWave...
2010-01-09 13:53:32 [Message] dumacornellucian : Try google translate
2010-01-09 13:53:56 [Message] olga : que curioso
2010-01-09 13:53:58 [Message] wfryer : I actually watched this video the first time on my iPhone, riding a train from Oklahoma down to Ft Worth, Texas. I am glad to have the subtitles this time!
2010-01-09 13:53:58 [Message] Diego Leal : I really think we should be thinking about those olbigations, Wes...
2010-01-09 13:54:09 [Message] wfryer : @Diego - yes, absolutely.
2010-01-09 13:54:17 [Message] matt montagne : are these videos transcribed to text automatically??
2010-01-09 13:54:30 [Message] Susan van Gelder : automatically through Jose
2010-01-09 13:54:31 [Message] Diego Leal : Nope, Matt, is a manual process...
2010-01-09 13:54:41 [Message] wfryer : @matt No, Jose and Diego have spent HOURS and HOURS doing that work....
2010-01-09 13:54:59 [Message] Diego Leal : I transcribed this one based on the script I wrote for it! :)
2010-01-09 13:55:06 [Message] Peggy George : it would be great if it was automatic!! preparing a transcript takes lots of hours!!
2010-01-09 13:55:11 [Message] Durff : like i said, ich spreche Deutsch
2010-01-09 13:55:13 [Message] matt montagne : @diego, in your estimation, will cell phones help bridge the global internet access divide??
2010-01-09 13:55:17 [Message] wfryer : We should get advanced language classes at different universities to contribute to our Dotsub translation project / needs
2010-01-09 13:55:28 [Message] Diego Leal : I think YouTube is trying to do something like that, only English so far..
2010-01-09 13:55:39 [Message] matt montagne : wow...MAJOR digital kudos to diego and jose on doing the transcriptions.
2010-01-09 13:55:42 [Message] MariaKnee : i love the pictures of "the divide"
2010-01-09 13:55:43 [Message] Peggy George : Diego presents us all with that very challenge at the end of his presentation! We can all get involved :-)
2010-01-09 13:55:44 [Message] wfryer : @Diego I liked how you repeated that photo and point about, "we need to take a jump"
2010-01-09 13:56:08 [Message] Durff : Diego will now talk to us
2010-01-09 13:56:28 [Message] Durff : type any questions you have here
2010-01-09 13:56:29 [Message] wfryer : I think as humans we are generally resistant to change.
2010-01-09 13:56:36 [Message] Pilar Soro : Cuales son las tres ideas?
2010-01-09 13:56:40 [Message] RachelBoyd : @wfreyer - yes!!
2010-01-09 13:56:41 [Message] Peggy George : that is a tough question because there are so many variables!
2010-01-09 13:56:42 [Message] Durff : humans love routine
2010-01-09 13:56:46 [Message] lindseybp : This is a critical discussion to have if we are serious about using technologies to address educational equity issues world-wide.
2010-01-09 13:56:58 [Message] Peggy George : thousands of "excuses" :-(
2010-01-09 13:57:01 [Message] wfryer : "sometimes we answer to the structure of education, rather than the ends of education" - very good points
2010-01-09 13:57:09 [Message] RachelBoyd : It is early morning for me in NZ - please excuse any typos while I wake up he he
2010-01-09 13:57:21 [Message] James Freeman : It is the liking of the four walls in which the teacher has routines and control. Reaching beyond is difficult.
2010-01-09 13:57:26 [Message] wfryer : What time is it there, Rachel?
2010-01-09 13:57:27 [Message] RachelBoyd : Lots of excuses - do things the same way we've always done it
2010-01-09 13:57:29 [Message] rmiller : We grow up being educated one way. Then, when we became teachers we expected to teach like our teachers. It is comfortable.
2010-01-09 13:57:43 [Message] RachelBoyd : nearly 8am but I was at a wedding last night Wes
2010-01-09 13:57:55 [Message] matt montagne : I think you have to have all of these rules and structure when we stuff 1000 kids into one building with 25-35 kids in each class...this system we have is a product of this environment
2010-01-09 13:57:57 [Message] Durff : Bam?
2010-01-09 13:58:01 [Message] wfryer : @Rachel are you all moved in to your new place in Auckland?
2010-01-09 13:58:48 [Message] wfryer : I think we need to think about the use of these tools both within our existing educational structures, as well as outside them. Outside them we often see more traction....
2010-01-09 13:58:52 [Message] matt montagne : and from what I gather, around the world, it is fairly typical to have 20-40 kids in each class...so, it is only natural that we have lines, rows, rules, standards, etc...if only just for crowd control.
2010-01-09 13:59:07 [Message] clinds : I find it amazing that teachers and administrators couldn't go without their computers for even a few hours to do their work but they don't get that students also need this constant access to technology to do their work today.
2010-01-09 13:59:18 [Message] RachelBoyd : @Wfryer - I have 2 weeks to go until I move
2010-01-09 13:59:18 [Message] dumacornellucian : For me web 2.0 is gateway through knowledge
2010-01-09 13:59:22 [Message] Durff : hi gdahlby
2010-01-09 13:59:30 [Message] matt montagne : @clinds...EXACTLY
2010-01-09 13:59:35 [Message] Peggy George : great response Diego!!
2010-01-09 13:59:43 [Message] kcaise : kind of backwards thinking by making them write by hand
2010-01-09 13:59:49 [Message] matt montagne : If we can't commit to giving every student a computer, then we should start taking them away from teachers
2010-01-09 14:00:06 [Message] Peggy George : very bold statement Matt!!
2010-01-09 14:01:01 [Message] @DrThomasHo : netbooks make it feasible to give every student a computer...as long as Internet access is adequate
2010-01-09 14:01:03 [Message] Durff : if you have any qts for diego, type them here
2010-01-09 14:01:04 [Message] wfryer : And I find that entire idea of including MORE voices and perspectives in our learning menu so compelling...
2010-01-09 14:01:10 [Message] matt montagne : @peggy...it is a wild statement indeed...but there are some elements of truth to it.
2010-01-09 14:01:26 [Message] Peggy George : your point is well taken!!
2010-01-09 14:01:35 [Message] [email protected] : authorship and authority are closely linked I feel. We are starting to teach this as early as first grade. My school is K-8.
2010-01-09 14:01:43 [Message] wfryer : @matt wow, that is a great point Matt. confrontational... and perhaps we need that approach to change those contexts which are most resistant...
2010-01-09 14:02:13 [Message] dumacornellucian : I find this very useful voxopop
2010-01-09 14:02:17 [Message] RachelBoyd : Agreed - blogs are a fab gateway for teachers
2010-01-09 14:03:09 [Message] matt montagne : jose, I'm intereseted in Diego's perspective on broadband presentation in colombia/brazil...how prevelant is internet access in schools and homes. What kind of cell phone penetration exists?? And does he see cell phones as a tool for access.
2010-01-09 14:03:56 [Message] Durff : good qt matt
2010-01-09 14:04:37 [Message] wfryer : yes, good question about rural broadband
2010-01-09 14:04:42 [Message] matt montagne : @wes...it is confrontational, indeed. Probably a flawed way to think about how to advance the digitization of curriculum...it will only be natural evolution at some point in the future for every kid in the USA to have a computer.
2010-01-09 14:04:43 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : También el curriculo deja poco margen para desarrollar capacidades de análisis de la información
2010-01-09 14:05:13 [Message] minervabueno : gracias Diego y José
2010-01-09 14:05:21 [Message] wfryer : @matt well, it reminds me of the SMU Art Dean's position on "teach naked" - Jose Bowen - he is taking tech out of college classrooms to prevent powerpointlessness
2010-01-09 14:05:22 [Message] Durff : Many resources of Diego's are at http://bioan09.wikispaces.com/ WARNING: you may be logged out if you click on this
2010-01-09 14:05:29 [Message] pgoetz : Has anyone found success using new little netbooks to increase the computer-to-student ratio at a more reasonable cost?
2010-01-09 14:05:32 [Message] Peggy George : this opportunity today is a fantastic opportunity to learn about the challenges of communication in different languages :-)
2010-01-09 14:05:46 [Message] wfryer : @matt sometimes we need confrontational approaches to get people's attention, and focus on the need to change
2010-01-09 14:05:47 [Message] Gabriela : Uruguay is doing a great job with laptops in rural areas
2010-01-09 14:06:11 [Message] wfryer : @Diego right, I agree that cell phones today which are NOT smartphones aren't great content access sources
2010-01-09 14:06:11 [Message] lindseybp : Love that we are having conversations in languages other than English and not just English.
2010-01-09 14:06:16 [Message] clinds : I am a tech coordinator at an independent school and it would be so easy to add a $300 netbook to the tuition one year so students have access throughout the day but everyone thinks laptop carts are fine. They don't get that it is so valuable to have the technology right there when you need it so you don't have to sign up for a cart, wait until it's available, etc.
2010-01-09 14:06:19 [Message] Peggy George : content is king :-) but transmission of communication--excellent point!
2010-01-09 14:06:34 [Message] wfryer : @diego but information access does not necessarily equal education. (quoting Gary Stager) - it is a part...
2010-01-09 14:07:01 [Message] matt montagne : good point, Diego
2010-01-09 14:07:03 [Message] Peggy George : that is the key, Diego!! it's not the tool but what are we going to do with it?
2010-01-09 14:07:12 [Message] wfryer : @Durff but thanks for dropping the link, it will be available in the archive...
2010-01-09 14:07:14 [Message] matt montagne : phones may not be the best devices for students to create content
2010-01-09 14:07:16 [Message] pgoetz : @clinds Same in my public school. Funds low, but I wish we could get more computers in hands of more kids for more activities...
2010-01-09 14:07:16 [Message] Durff : More Diego's resources: Twitter: qadmon Blog: http://diegoleal.org/blog
2010-01-09 14:07:16 [Message] Joe Brennan : As Pogue puts it "App phones."
2010-01-09 14:07:40 [Message] Susan van Gelder : it's always about how we use the tools - cut and paste is still scribing
2010-01-09 14:07:42 [Message] wfryer : I am SO enthused that these fireside chats / echo webcasts are going to continue in 2010..... this is such a fantastic venue for conversation and learning!
2010-01-09 14:08:00 [Message] Durff : champagne all around
2010-01-09 14:08:47 [Message] matt montagne : @clinds...that is a tough battle...they think intermittent access for students via carts is OK, but do they require teachers to have the same level of intermittent access?? Could we imagine a scenario where teachers needed to wait to use a computer off a cart to do her work??
2010-01-09 14:09:08 [Message] matt montagne : agreed, Wes. The echos are a brilliant idea
2010-01-09 14:09:09 [Message] Diego Leal : @wfryer Exactly! Information access does not equal education. Yet, sometimes I have the feeling we can be confusing both things...
2010-01-09 14:09:13 [Message] lindseybp : Will this presentation and chat discussion be archived for later access?
2010-01-09 14:09:26 [Message] Susan van Gelder : I really liked this idea of giving the students the keys
2010-01-09 14:09:31 [Message] Susan van Gelder : empowering students
2010-01-09 14:09:32 [Message] pgoetz : @matt Teaching as a subsersive activit!
2010-01-09 14:09:38 [Message] Peggy George : @lindseybp--yes both will be archived :-)
2010-01-09 14:09:41 [Message] Pilar Soro : en algunas escuelas los ordenadores estan guardados bajo llave, tiempo y tiempo
2010-01-09 14:09:50 [Message] Sal : have to go
2010-01-09 14:10:00 [Message] wfryer : thanks to Susan van Gelder for taking the lead on the echo webcasts. We still need a co-host for the echos though - anyone interested please contact Susan!!!
2010-01-09 14:10:01 [Message] Diego Leal : Pilar, lo triste es que esa era la misma situación hace más de 10 años...
2010-01-09 14:10:05 [Message] matt montagne : @wes...I wish I could be more confrontational at my site, but I can't be a lightning rod because I have to work with people day in, day out...that is where I think consultants like you can be so valuable. Come in for a few days and challenge the mode of operandi
2010-01-09 14:10:09 [Message] lindseybp : Wonderful! Will be sharing this with pre-service language teachers then.
2010-01-09 14:10:23 [Message] Durff : excellent
2010-01-09 14:10:26 [Message] wfryer : @lindseybp yes, this is being archived and will be available on EdTechTalk as well as our K12online sites
2010-01-09 14:10:26 [Message] pgoetz : Students creating content, accessing various primary sources, collaborating frequently -- they need access to computers!
2010-01-09 14:10:28 [Message] Durff : hi edgar
2010-01-09 14:10:36 [Message] wfryer : http://k12online.ning.com and http://k12onlineconference.org
2010-01-09 14:10:39 [Message] Edgar : Hello from Puerto Rico
2010-01-09 14:10:44 [Message] Durff : hi denise
2010-01-09 14:10:49 [Message] Edgar : Hi Denise
2010-01-09 14:10:53 [Message] Diego Leal : Hi there, Edgar!
2010-01-09 14:10:55 [Message] Denise : Hi
2010-01-09 14:11:05 [Message] Pilar Soro : entregar las llaves
2010-01-09 14:11:11 [Message] wfryer : @matt yes, when you are part of the institution / bureacracy you have natural limits / inhibitions to being a change agent
2010-01-09 14:11:12 [Message] Edgar : Can I download thi svideo from somewhere??
2010-01-09 14:11:21 [Message] Durff : yes
2010-01-09 14:11:22 [Message] Peggy George : This EduCamp concept is wonderful!
2010-01-09 14:11:27 [Message] Diego Leal : Entregar las llaves significa, digo yo, un cambio total de enfoque mental...
2010-01-09 14:11:33 [Message] Edgar : I want to have an exchang with you guys and the University of Puerto Rico
2010-01-09 14:11:35 [Message] Susan van Gelder : but not with the English subtitles
2010-01-09 14:11:43 [Message] Peggy George : his video is available here: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=488
2010-01-09 14:11:45 [Message] Durff : http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=488
2010-01-09 14:11:47 [Message] Edgar : you can reach me al [email protected]
2010-01-09 14:11:49 [Message] wfryer : Yes @Edgar - the preso is on http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=488
2010-01-09 14:11:49 [Message] Durff : bingo
2010-01-09 14:11:49 [Message] Pilar Soro : abrur las escuelas
2010-01-09 14:11:54 [Message] pzigg : gotta get that educamp cheat sheet!
2010-01-09 14:11:58 [Message] Durff : peggy is so much faster
2010-01-09 14:12:08 [Message] Peggy George : I wish!!!
2010-01-09 14:12:13 [Message] wfryer : @Diego do you have a link that gives more info about EduCamp, the curriculum, etc?
2010-01-09 14:12:15 [Message] Edgar : its ok, we speak spanish
2010-01-09 14:12:16 [Message] Diego Leal : Susan, You can download the video from blip and the subtitles from dotsub, and use Media Player Classic to play it offline..
2010-01-09 14:12:28 [Message] Durff : hey i know que tal
2010-01-09 14:12:38 [Message] Durff : it may be all i know
2010-01-09 14:12:40 [Message] juan : Pilar, eres temeraria. Si abres la escuela, abres la sociedad.
2010-01-09 14:12:41 [Message] lindseybp : I am learning so much from these examples from Columbia!
2010-01-09 14:12:47 [Message] Susan van Gelder : thanks Diego
2010-01-09 14:12:50 [Message] Peggy George : the examples are outstanding!!
2010-01-09 14:12:55 [Message] Edgar : I want to have my college students from Puerto Rico have an cyber exchange with students fro all over the world
2010-01-09 14:13:15 [Message] Peggy George : and I love the way he summarizes and ties it all together for us at the end! excellent presentation!!
2010-01-09 14:13:24 [Message] lindseybp : This is exactly the kinds of learning environments I would love to see in my locale!
2010-01-09 14:13:41 [Message] [email protected] : Ah the PLN - we are trying very hard to promote that with our staff!!
2010-01-09 14:13:48 [Message] Pilar Soro : 2. Modelar nuevas practicas
2010-01-09 14:13:55 [Message] Durff : free pd!
2010-01-09 14:14:00 [Message] wfryer : @juan exactamente ... el proceso de abriemiento es la fundacion del cambios que necesitamos... en las escuelas, in nuestra sociedad, y para el proceso de educacion personal...
2010-01-09 14:14:05 [Message] Durff : hi mesmith
2010-01-09 14:14:37 [Message] mesmith : Hi!
2010-01-09 14:14:50 [Message] lindseybp : Exactly! New perspectives that we miss out on due to the dominance of English...
2010-01-09 14:14:57 [Message] Durff : hi berta
2010-01-09 14:15:13 [Message] Durff : hi whomever i missed
2010-01-09 14:15:36 [Message] Peggy George : the amazing thing to me is that what he is describing is universal for all of us! no matter where we live!
2010-01-09 14:15:38 [Message] wfryer : I had not heard of Jubler as a subtitle editor before http://www.jubler.org/
2010-01-09 14:15:41 [Message] MariaKnee : I would love to be able to have conversations with non english speaking primary classrooms. It would expand our world so much more.
2010-01-09 14:15:44 [Message] Diego Leal : @wes The info about the EduCamps are in Spanish so far (http://educampcolombia.org). I wrote a couple of posts in English: http://bit.ly/4EJzKt
2010-01-09 14:15:46 [Message] juan : Pilar, es un problema de democracia. En el Foro Social Mundial en Madrid debatiremos sobre este tema a a finales de enero.
2010-01-09 14:16:08 [Message] pzigg : watch out english and spanish speakers; mandarin may be the new dominant language of commerce, and then the web...
2010-01-09 14:16:15 [Message] Durff : hi kathleen
2010-01-09 14:16:20 [Message] Durff : oops
2010-01-09 14:16:36 [Message] Durff : hi duma
2010-01-09 14:16:40 [Message] wfryer : @mariaknee - agreed! I think helping our students form friendships with others in different countries is one of the most important things we can do in schools, for many reasons...
2010-01-09 14:17:13 [Message] wfryer : @pzigg isn't China going to have the largest number of English speakers of all the countries in the world?
2010-01-09 14:17:15 [Message] MariaKnee : my kindergarten children have connected to other countries but they they everyone speaks english.
2010-01-09 14:17:29 [Message] Diego Leal : @wfryer I think it already have them..
2010-01-09 14:17:30 [Message] Peggy George : excellent selection of images for these points!!!
2010-01-09 14:17:33 [Message] matt montagne : I want my students to do some translations...we have over 20 other 1st languages at my school. This would be a great thing for students to get involved in.
2010-01-09 14:17:39 [Message] Edgar : Yes, I want to start teaching Spanish to the Chinese
2010-01-09 14:17:45 [Message] wfryer : this fireside chat is a tangible example of "bridging the divide" when it comes to language, I think
2010-01-09 14:17:52 [Message] Susan van Gelder : @MariaKnee - there is a translator for GoogleWave - you type in one language and it translates to the other
2010-01-09 14:17:55 [Message] Diego Leal : The info about the EduCamps are in Spanish so far (http://educampcolombia.org). I wrote a couple of posts in English: http://bit.ly/4EJzKt
2010-01-09 14:17:59 [Message] Susan van Gelder : not perfect but a start
2010-01-09 14:18:01 [Message] wfryer : @matt great idea
2010-01-09 14:18:06 [Message] Durff : hi sheila
2010-01-09 14:18:10 [Message] wfryer : @Diego aweseome! thanksfor the link!
2010-01-09 14:18:11 [Message] pzigg : according to a recent article I read, all the countries in the asian pacific rim are now learning mandarin. they don't rely on english as a second language.
2010-01-09 14:18:11 [Message] Edgar : who is wiling to help me start
2010-01-09 14:18:12 [Message] dumacornellucian : You have right wfryer
2010-01-09 14:18:13 [Message] MariaKnee : twelcome sheila
2010-01-09 14:18:14 [Message] sheila : Hi Durff and all!
2010-01-09 14:18:38 [Message] matt montagne : but, our students often times don't have time to do valuable work like this...they are so overwhelmed with APs, their various "rigourous" classes, etc
2010-01-09 14:18:39 [Message] Edgar : Can I put one of my Spanish videos here? How canI do this?
2010-01-09 14:18:42 [Message] Durff -> Room 2: hi kathleen
2010-01-09 14:18:53 [Message] Edgar : I have a national TV show in Puerto Rico
2010-01-09 14:18:56 [Message] matt montagne : bravo!!!!
2010-01-09 14:19:09 [Message] Durff -> Room 2: please double click on room 1 to join about 60 other people.
2010-01-09 14:19:13 [Message] matt montagne : cheers for Diego!!!
2010-01-09 14:19:13 [Message] RachelBoyd : @MariaKnee yes we have only done English exchanges too - oh, except for Voices of the World which was neat to hear others speaking
2010-01-09 14:19:16 [Message] Edgar : I have UStream
2010-01-09 14:19:17 [Message] lindseybp : I am going to have to revisit this presentation multiple times—it has so much to consider, digest and act upon.
2010-01-09 14:19:21 [Message] minervabueno : interesante idea...
2010-01-09 14:19:36 [Message] wfryer : clap clap clap - applause for Diego!!!!!
2010-01-09 14:19:37 [Message] Edgar : hola minerva
2010-01-09 14:19:40 [Message] Pilar Soro : http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04230.gif
2010-01-09 14:19:42 [Message] Durff : clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
2010-01-09 14:19:47 [Message] pgoetz : Bravo Diego
2010-01-09 14:19:51 [Message] Diego Leal : Thanks everyone!
2010-01-09 14:19:51 [Message] minervabueno : este video lo podemos conseguir en you tube...
2010-01-09 14:19:56 [Message] minervabueno : ????
2010-01-09 14:19:56 [Message] [email protected] : Excellent!!
2010-01-09 14:19:57 [Message] lindseybp : Yes many cheers to Diego! Just fabulous.
2010-01-09 14:20:01 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : congrats
2010-01-09 14:20:07 [Message] Pilar Soro : thanks Diego
2010-01-09 14:20:11 [Message] wfryer : woo hoo! Diego you have made history with us!!!
2010-01-09 14:20:23 [Message] Diego Leal : Thanks for letting me be part of it!
2010-01-09 14:20:24 [Message] clinds : Thank you!
2010-01-09 14:20:24 [Message] Peggy George : thank you so much Diego!!! I am so inspired by this chat with you!!
2010-01-09 14:20:28 [Message] william Vegazo Muro : Congrats Diego from Lima Per√∫
2010-01-09 14:20:29 [Message] minervabueno : este video lo podemos conseguir en you tube???
2010-01-09 14:20:29 [Message] Pilar Soro : @minerba, est√° el video en dotsub
2010-01-09 14:20:34 [Message] Joe Brennan : ¡Muchísimas gracias!
2010-01-09 14:20:44 [Message] Pilar Soro : ahora no tengo el link
2010-01-09 14:20:47 [Message] Durff : twitter your friends in now to here rachel boyd
2010-01-09 14:20:53 [Message] Durff : danke
2010-01-09 14:20:55 [Message] minervabueno : @pilar thanks
2010-01-09 14:20:56 [Message] Cristina Arnau : congrats
2010-01-09 14:20:57 [Message] Pilar Soro : creo que dicen que en Ning también
2010-01-09 14:20:59 [Message] Durff : hi jenna
2010-01-09 14:21:07 [Message] MariaKnee : Thanks to our hero - Jose for getting this dual language experience started!
2010-01-09 14:21:07 [Message] gdahlby : Gracias
2010-01-09 14:21:11 [Message] CalArmstrong : Well, that was astonishing!
2010-01-09 14:21:13 [Message] Pilar Soro : bye
2010-01-09 14:21:32 [Message] Durff : every one here should have audio
2010-01-09 14:21:41 [Message] Pilar Soro : pueden dejar aqui el link del video de Diego Leal?
2010-01-09 14:21:44 [Message] Durff : we are listening to wes fryer now
2010-01-09 14:21:51 [Message] Susan van Gelder : yes
2010-01-09 14:21:55 [Message] lindseybp : Yes, thank you Jose, for allowing us to experience this session from multiple perspectives via the two languages here.
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