2010-02-11 SEEDlings with Christian Long

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http://aliceproject.wordpress.com/ (Alice Project)

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bobsprankle -> Room 1: Ah you're here!
 Sheila -> Room 1: Hi all!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: here!
 Sheila -> Room 1: Hey Cheryl! Tracy said she met you at the wedding. :)
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes, and we fought about whose friend you were!!! It was great
 Sheila -> Room 1:  lol
 alicebarr -> Room 1: HI Sheila
 alicebarr -> Room 1: WElcome
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hello to all, just getting ready.
 Sheila -> Room 1: Hi Alice - sexy voice!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Isnt' that awesome
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hi Loonyhiker
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: hi there! which do i click to get sound?
 Sheila -> Room 1: ETTA
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Edtech Talk A
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: thanks!
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Can you hear us?
 bobsprankle -> Room 1: hi all!
 Sheila -> Room 1: Wow Olympics!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: yes i can hear u!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes, the Olympics are on my horizon!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i was in vancouver after a cruise in Alaska and it was beautiful
 christianlong -> Room 1: Teaser, indeed!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Oh, such great vibes for going to the olympics
 Sheila -> Room 1: DS is from Vancouver.
 Sheila -> Room 1: I'm jealous - would like the snow here.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes, I hope to get closer to Doug
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i hunted for moose in Maine last august but never did get to see one :(
 christianlong -> Room 1: Can a "loonyhiker" hunt moose morally?
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: lol i think they were hiding from me!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i just wanted a picture
 christianlong -> Room 1: @loonyhiker:  ah...that's decent/honorable.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: http://www.usaluge.org/team/bios/clukey.php
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: we were near Baxter SP and the "golden road" and after 3 days of going out at 5am, we gave up
 Sheila -> Room 1: We'll looking for 1st hand info!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: This is a link to Julia Clukey the Luger that we are going to cheer on!
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Welcome everyone
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Christian Long is in the house
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hello all, we are talking with Christian Long from snowy Texas tonight.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hi Jasonmkern, Lee-AnneHK
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: hello
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Jason where are you from?
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: Texas
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: OH, is it snowing in your part of Texas or cold?
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: snowing
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: send it our way or to the Olympics!
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: yeah its deinitely not like Texas
 Lee-AnneHK -> Room 1: Good morning everyone - Kung Hei Fat Choi (Happy Chinese New Year)!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: this is making me want to go read Alice!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Oh, Lee-Anne, Happy New Year! What year is it?
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: same to u Lee-Anne!
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Hello Lee-Ann Happy Chinese new Year. We had a dragon at school today!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Nice, Alice. What was your lunch today?
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Chinese Class made dumplings among other things
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Oh, yum.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Christian, this sounds like you are a global thinker!
 Sheila -> Room 1: Just got the automatic update! will be back in a bit.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: ask Christian how wonderful his tech director had to be
 alicebarr -> Room 1: @jason we will :)
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: :)
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: welcome jenksbyjenks
 jenksbyjenks -> Room 1: thanks!
 alicebarr -> Room 1: Hi Paul
 Paul Allison -> Room 1: Hi.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: evening Paul
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: http://aliceproject.wordpress.com/ Christian is talking about this project.
 Lee-AnneHK -> Room 1: Back again - people keep popping into my office. Year of the Tiger next year.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Oh, great lee-anne
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: welcome cbrown
 cbrown -> Room 1: Hi there. Thanks.
 Lee-AnneHK -> Room 1: Gotta go - needed in Learning support this morning. Hope you have a great weekend and are not snowed in. Will catch the podcast over the weekend.
 cbrown -> Room 1: I've been listening to "Seedlings" for about a year now, but this is my first time listening live.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Thanks Lee-Anne, have a great weekend
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: cbrown, thanks for the feedback! Glad you could join live!
 cbrown -> Room 1: thanks.  I really enjoy what you guys do.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Where are you from? Are you part of the ning?
 cbrown -> Room 1: I'm from Maine, but now I work as a HS science teacher in Mass.
 cbrown -> Room 1: I am not part of the ning.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: http://bitbybitseedlings.ning.com/   Here is the ning where we continue or start conversations.
 cbrown -> Room 1: ok.  excellent.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hope you enjoy the live show and chat!
 cbrown -> Room 1: thanks again.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: This is Christian Long talking about his project with his 10th graders.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: http://aliceproject.wordpress.com/participants/the-students/
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i hate i missed this when it was happening but i can't wait to check out the website and read about the whole project
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes Loonyhiker, I know I was out straight and couldn't participate.
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: Just the idea of how engaged these students got into this is exciting!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes, exactly this is such a great project, a joint project.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: welcome PeggyG
 Paul Allison -> Room 1: I wonder if we could use BookGlutton to read this together? http://www.bookglutton.com/detail/Lewis+Carroll/Alices+Adventures+in+Won...
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: We have Christian Long on tonight talking about his Alice project http://aliceproject.wordpress.com/participants/the-students/
 PeggyG -> Room 1: Hi! so sorry I'm late!! sounds like a great conversation!
 Paul Allison -> Room 1: Great documentation of the learning by students and teachers on the site.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: yes, it is good stuff
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i love that "stay messy" :)
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes, stay messy.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hello Gail P.!
 Gail P -> Room 1: hello all
 PeggyG -> Room 1: is Christian in the UK right now?
 cbrown -> Room 1: I never thought about "publicizing" my students work online..
 Paul Allison -> Room 1: A student recently used Alice as a metaphor: http://youthvoices.net/node/32832
 christianlong -> Room 1: @PeggyG: My email is UK-based...but I live in TX.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: cbrown, take a chance and do it, there is such a great network out here. Leave a message on the ning also.
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i love when ppl tweet/plurk asking for comments
 PeggyG -> Room 1: oh that's good to know Christian :-)
 cbrown -> Room 1: I'm thinking it would be great in the context of science.
 Paul Allison -> Room 1: I love when Bob gets passionate, and thinks he is talking too much.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes loonyhiker, it is great to be involved in projects.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: yes, it is great isn't it Paul!!
 bobsprankle -> Room 1: lol, paul <blush>
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: by asking ppl to comment, u r inviting them to become a part of the project and it is quite welcoming (to me at least)
 PeggyG -> Room 1: Paul, I saw that post and several others about Ayiti--would love to hear more about that game and the experience of your students playing it. Would you be willing to do a webcast with a couple of students on Women of Web?
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: yes loonyhiker, it is all about making connections and those kids will remember this forever
 Gail P -> Room 1: back again, sorry for the interruption.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: is it more important to have a portfolio for their *best* work or is it better to show all their work that chronicles their progress and process?
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: no problem Gail, glad you got back here.
 PeggyG -> Room 1: great question jason!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: @cheryl and it is a great way to get ideas for future possible projects that can be adapted for my own class
 Gail P -> Room 1: And then there's the question of whether or not students want all their work on line
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: jasonmkern, I like the portfolio that demonstrates growth
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i think growth is more important than just the best
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Gail P, I bet there are some who would prefer privacy, but most like stuff hung on a bulletin board, so maybe.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: so do we create two pieces for students? one polished version of the *best of* and a second that gives the whole process? A lot to ask anyone to read everything without some context
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: jasonmkern, great question about work over time.
 Gail P -> Room 1: I have students who don't do their best and posting their work would be an embarrassment
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: Failure is simply a indication of taking a risk often times.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: I think a student can choose to post drafts and also final projects. Let the student reflect, that is the most important.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: Teach kids to be willing to fail because they reached for something great
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: @jason my students' portfolios are broken up in different topics so that the final documentation can be the "best" for that topic
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Gail and Jason, maybe those students should find their voice, photography, media, music, maybe not the blog.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @loony but in the end do they present a 'resume' of their best work
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Risk should never be a failure. Great discussion!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: @jason i think so - when we apply for a job, we bring a resume filled with the "best" about us, not really about our growth
 cbrown -> Room 1: I like the idea of using document sharing to share kids work with parents directly.
 Gail P -> Room 1: what global archive will you use?
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: if you are transparent in your learing for an extended period of time. asking anyone to read that much would be daunting but having it available if anyone wated to see it and to reflect yourself would be valuable
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: yes, cbrown, it is powerful.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail does the tool really matter?
 Gail P -> Room 1: I think the tool matters because who is going to hold the work for 10 or 20 years? I'm not.
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: teaching students too reflect at their own growth and being able to actually see how much they have grown is so important too
 PeggyG -> Room 1: I have seen some class blogs where the teachers actually state that the student work is work in progress and not polished, final products
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: is ok then to go back and edit that mispelling although the learning may no longer be 'transparent'?
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: I think it is important that kids own the work and want to go back and refine.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail no. that's why it goes on the web where it can be available
 alicebarr -> Room 1: remember Zach saying you have to "learn how you learn"
 Gail P -> Room 1: Don't you come across websites where the link no longer work?
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: keeper of the website, quote from Bob.
 PeggyG -> Room 1: I like that thinking!! and agree!
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: yes but how will you ever be able to stop that? we are always responsible for archiving our work no matter where we put it
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Learn how to learn, is what we want our students to travel.
 Gail P -> Room 1: I pass the work samples on to the next grade teacher and hold nothing on paper. My blog os student learning has a limit and I do not create a new blog each year. I build upon the same one.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: It is about tech at some level or we wouldn't be having this discussion. I agree that what the students learned was not about tech but the sharing and the importance of the audience certainly is
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail how do you pass the work along
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Gail P, I like that you build year to year cumulatively. That is longitudinal growth.
 Gail P -> Room 1: Paper work samples which the receiving teacher reviews and the rest is assessment data
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail do you think digitizing that paper at some level would allow for easier archival as well as multiple copies that could be passed along as well as kept?
 Gail P -> Room 1: I have used a number of tech tools like VoiceThread and have these available for anyone to browse but what if VoiceThread fails and disappears.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Gail, a quick snapshot of those digital items is all I keep, just in case they disappear. Like GCast doesn't take more audio uploads I hear.
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail then it disappears but if you don't doesn't it disappear anyways
 Gail P -> Room 1: I am not sold on the idea of archiving all work. Personally I wouldn't want all my work on display for the world to see.
 PeggyG -> Room 1: I so wish we didn't have to think about "grades" for these kinds of things!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Yes Peggy!
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: @gail I can certainly see that but things like google docs can be private
 Gail P -> Room 1: cheryloakes~seedlings Why do you keep the digital work?
 PeggyG -> Room 1: what a fabulous conversation!!! get this recording posted fast so I can hear the whole thing!!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: My own digital work as my portfolio, is what I keep.
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: PeggyG it will be posted tomorrw at 6 AM
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: we all learn when we all share
 PeggyG -> Room 1: you're the best Cheryl!! you always post recordings so quickly!!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Bob is the best!!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Alice and I take care of edtechtalk post
 cbrown -> Room 1: HI.
 Sheila -> Room 1: I wasn't in the chat but I really liked the conversation! Definitely want to listen to the archive!
 PeggyG -> Room 1: I knew Jason knew a whole lot about this!!!! :-)
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: anything that went wrong was my fault
 Sheila -> Room 1: :)
 PeggyG -> Room 1: How exciting to have both of you sharing with us!!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: no way jasonmker!
 alicebarr -> Room 1: http://visibletweets.com
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: @jason lol don't throw yrself in front of the train
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: :)
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: visibletweets rocks
 cbrown -> Room 1: haven't tried it.
 alicebarr -> Room 1: http://tweepml.org
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: really cool wallpaper type thing http://visibletweets.com/
 PeggyG -> Room 1: try posting educon in visibletweets :-)
 alicebarr -> Room 1: http://www.texted.ca/app/en/#
 Gail P -> Room 1: I like being able to click on a link and it opens in a new tab for browsing later :)
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: i like plurk for that reason - the whole conversation is in one place
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: https://www.fillanypdf.com/
 PeggyG -> Room 1: how do you sign it online?
 bobsprankle -> Room 1: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/this-american-life/id348530331?mt=8
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1:  it is a webbrowser that you share
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Haven't tried it but teachers love it
 PeggyG -> Room 1: can you download the pdf with the signature?
 Gail P -> Room 1: @cheryl Thanks for that one; always seem to be looking for that
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Hi carolteach4, just finishing up
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: peggy, i will give it a try tonight.
 carolteach4 -> Room 1: just got home from conferences
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: Thanks to all in the chat, great show tonight. It will be posted tomorrow.
 PeggyG -> Room 1: I'll try it too Cheryl. Sounds fantastic!
 loonyhiker -> Room 1: this hr. went by so fast! thanks everyone for a great conversation!
 carolteach4 -> Room 1: can you drop in that address again - just got here
 Sheila -> Room 1: Edtech Brainstorm later tonight and Earthcast planning.
 christianlong -> Room 1: Can't wait to read the transcript now...great parallel convo going on!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: I will mention
 cbrown -> Room 1: Thanks everyone. Really enjoyed it!
 PeggyG -> Room 1: yes Sheila!! we need lots of voices in Earthcast planning :-)
 Sheila -> Room 1: Great show! Thanks all!
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: thanks
 jasonmkern -> Room 1: thanks
 Sheila -> Room 1: O-lym-pics!
 carolteach4 -> Room 1: we'll be off, too - we are coming to Maine-
 PeggyG -> Room 1: are you all going off-line during your break?
 cheryloakes~seedlings -> Room 1: this hour was fast. goodnight all
 Gail P -> Room 1: thanks - glad to have caught the conversations
 bobsprankle -> Room 1: thanks all!
 christianlong -> Room 1: Thanks again!
 cbrown -> Room 1: thanks.
 PeggyG -> Room 1: good night all! Thanks!


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