Conversations Episode 113 - Objectives - Should we share them with students?

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This week, Maria brought us an article about sharing objectives with students.  This author gave various reasons not to share objectives.  We debated the issue. Our next Conversations show will be held on Monday, December 19th at 8:00 Eastern. 

2011-12-05 20:04:30 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: Starting shortly!
2011-12-05 20:07:05 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> EdTechTalk: Hello Cathy.
2011-12-05 20:07:20 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Audio is great
2011-12-05 20:07:41 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: Hello Cathy
2011-12-05 20:09:16 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: I wish I could!
2011-12-05 20:12:45 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: I feel special
2011-12-05 20:13:00 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Can't do it
2011-12-05 20:13:06 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: my connection won't hold
2011-12-05 20:13:29 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: no goats 
2011-12-05 20:13:38 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: OMG
2011-12-05 20:13:44 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: I told you Lisa!!!
2011-12-05 20:13:55 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: BAd idea!! to agree to that snake.
2011-12-05 20:14:56 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: http://www.criticalexplorers.org/2011/10/objectively-speaking/
2011-12-05 20:17:08 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: We have always been required to post the objectives
2011-12-05 20:17:35 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: We write them as I can statements and I will statements
2011-12-05 20:18:38 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: We are not required to do that, but some people write the topics for middle school
2011-12-05 20:19:40 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: Hi there! Long time no 'see'!
2011-12-05 20:20:15 [Message] sroseman -> EdTechTalk: yes, I  have been quite busy ..suffering from Internet fatigue
2011-12-05 20:20:27 [Message] sroseman -> EdTechTalk: and just returned from Israel
2011-12-05 20:21:45 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: I hear you! :)  Wow! Israel!  I forgot you were away.
2011-12-05 20:22:24 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: We as the teachers are not deciding what objectives will be taught.  In the past it has been the state, not it is national (common core)
2011-12-05 20:22:37 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: *now
2011-12-05 20:23:08 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: But Maria, you have an end in mind
2011-12-05 20:23:55 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: that is why we write the "i will" statements
2011-12-05 20:24:18 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: "I will decide what is the best tool to use to do xxx"
2011-12-05 20:25:20 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Where we are now is sooo much better than where we have been with objectives...we are feeling good about it
2011-12-05 20:26:27 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: We have multiple objectives on the board
2011-12-05 20:27:47 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Our admins walk through all the time
2011-12-05 20:27:58 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: with tablet in hand
2011-12-05 20:28:21 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Maria, you won't win that battle
2011-12-05 20:28:43 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: That seems to be the trend now - tablets and apps for walkthrough
2011-12-05 20:29:16 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: That is a shame.  My admins are so involved
2011-12-05 20:29:23 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: they are in our rooms all the time
2011-12-05 20:29:31 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: mine was in today
2011-12-05 20:33:00 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: Objectively Speaking - http://www.criticalexplorers.org/2011/10/objectively-speaking/
2011-12-05 20:36:42 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: We have "formal observations"
2011-12-05 20:36:52 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: and walk throughs
2011-12-05 20:36:56 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: There's a snake on the loose in Lisa's house!  :o 
2011-12-05 20:38:22 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: yea, my admins do a lot of observations
2011-12-05 20:45:00 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: http://principalposts.edublogs.org/2010/08/13/leading-with-walkthroughs/
2011-12-05 20:49:27 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: my admis are very good at asking the questions
2011-12-05 20:49:49 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: 10-20 min
2011-12-05 20:50:04 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: but a formal evaluation is an hour
2011-12-05 20:51:33 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Do you fill out professional development plans?
2011-12-05 20:51:47 [Message] Sheila -> EdTechTalk: yes
2011-12-05 20:52:14 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: yes
2011-12-05 20:52:20 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: those plans are part of our evaluation process
2011-12-05 20:52:32 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: along with a self assessment from each teacher
2011-12-05 20:52:50 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: my plans should not have to look like everyone else's
2011-12-05 20:56:23 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: So if your objective was "making connections" you were covered
2011-12-05 20:57:35 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: some teachers would never cover the curriculum if they did not have guidelines
2011-12-05 20:57:52 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: and the great teachers, like you, will work around it
2011-12-05 20:59:45 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: Don't let snakes into your house either
2011-12-05 21:01:36 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> EdTechTalk: I'm back to say goodbye.
2011-12-05 21:01:42 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> EdTechTalk: No luck finding the snake.
2011-12-05 21:01:55 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> EdTechTalk: I am thrilled thinking about sleeping with a snake loose in the house.
2011-12-05 21:02:35 [Message] Cathy E -> EdTechTalk: don't tell her
2011-12-05 21:06:02 [Message] Lisa Parisi -> EdTechTalk: Thanks for coming, Ladies.
2011-12-05 21:06:13 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: thank you for putting up with the babble!!!
2011-12-05 21:06:17 [Message] mariak -> EdTechTalk: from me!
2011-12-05 21:06:34 [Message] sroseman -> EdTechTalk: Thanks all
This week, Maria brought us an article about sharing objectives with students.  This author gave various reasons not to share objectives.  We debated the issue. Our next Conversations show will be held on Monday, December 19th at 8:00 Eastern.