TTT #289: Connected Learning: Elyse Eidman-Aadahl, Clifford Lee, Katie MacKay, Meenoo Rami, Lacy Manship, Antero Garcia 3.21.12

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Connected Learning

On this episode of +Teachers Teaching Teachers, we talk about Connected Learning/connecting-our-learning with Elyse Eidman-Aadahl and this amazing group of NWP teacher leaders listed here: Paul Allison, Chris SloanClifford Lee, Fred Mindlin, Katie MacKay, Chad Sansing, Meenoo Rami, Lacy Manship, and Antero Garcia

You can see some of what we discuss through the following links:

Connected Learning
Click Read more to see a copy of the chat that was happening during the webcast.

08:38 guest-3613: Hi there, welcome to tonight's discussion
08:38 guest-3612: Glad to be here tonight!
08:38 guest-3613: who else is here? Please say hello and where you're from?
08:41 guest-3618: Hello ... Christina from Philly!
08:41 guest-3612: Hi Christina
08:41 Paul Allison:
08:43 Paul Allison: We will be with you in just a minute.
08:44 guest-3618: Hello Elyse ... Hi Meenoo and Paul ...
08:44 guest-3617: Hi everyone
08:44 guest-3618: Hi Antero!
08:45 guest-3618: Paul, just fyi I'm going to hang out in the back channel here ... you have enough guests ...
08:45 guest-3618: and I'll be available to help folks get on who haven't been here before too in case.
08:47 guest-3610: Hi everybody
08:47 guest-3618: If Katie has to call in she has a number, right?
08:47 guest-3618: Hi Aram!
08:48 guest-3610: Hi Paul and Paul and Christina and all
08:48 guest-3618: never mind ... I see in her email she has your phone number ... that's fine.
08:48 guest-3612: Christina, there's a new blog post at DI with some resource links. You might post it for folks.
08:49 guest-3613: HI Christina
08:49 guest-3518: Hi all
08:49 guest-3435: Howdy, All -
08:50 guest-3518: ending the third quarter at my school tomorrow
08:50 guest-3618: Cliff -- yes
08:51 guest-3623: howdy
08:52 guest-3618: Hi Traci!
08:52 guest-3625: Hey everyone!
08:52 pgeorge: Hi everyone
08:52 guest-3625: Christina and everyone else, I'm in the hangout but willing to give up my space if one of you would like to join in.
08:53 guest-3433: dang. full house
08:53 guest-3625: monika, feel free to jump into the hangout
08:53 pgeorge: thanks Paul! it really helps when people say their names when they speak :-)
08:54 guest-3625: i can drop out
08:54 guest-3433: you're good
08:54 guest-3618:
08:54 guest-3433:
08:54 guest-3626: Hi all!
08:54 guest-3618: :)
08:55 guest-3618: Hi Monika ... Hi Troy!
08:55 guest-3433: principals:
08:55 guest-3625: Hey Troy
08:55 guest-3610: Digital Media and Technology conference...
08:55 guest-3433: hi Christina
08:56 pgeorge: Mimi Ito was on Steve Hargadon's interview last week. :-)
08:56 guest-3433: changing up the convo/the questions..
08:56 guest-3618: here is the recording of Mimi Ito on the Hargadon show,
08:56 guest-3623: DMT = DML ?
08:56 guest-3626: Any other way to listen besides the livestream?
08:57 guest-3626: I am at a hotel... bad internet...
08:57 guest-3433: digital media and learning dml
08:57 guest-3625: Troy, I think the livestream is the only way to listen
08:57 guest-3618: are you here Troy? ... oops, I suppose you are.
08:58 pgeorge: @hickstro-don't think there is another audio source for this session
08:58 guest-3433: a definite watch: Mimi, Connie & Katie via the brilliant Nic Askew - the essence of connected learning..
08:58 guest-3625: I love that video, Monika
08:59 guest-3626: Bummer... slow, slow connection here at the hotel. No video streaming with "free" wifi.
08:59 guest-3433: yes.. watch it everyday.. : )
08:59 guest-3626: I'll catch the podcast. Good luck all!
08:59 pgeorge: so sorry hickstro!
08:59 guest-3625: Thanks, Troy!
08:59 guest-3433: yes - excellent overview... summary
08:59 guest-3433: thank you
08:59 guest-3626: Me too! Enjoy the conversation!
08:59 guest-3623: hamago = hanging around, messing about, geeking out <-- do i have that right?
08:59 pgeorge: I'm glad Paul will be able to merge the audio--that was a great intro!
08:59 guest-3618: HOMAGO
09:00 guest-3623: so hanging OUT
09:00 guest-3618: :) Love it Katie!
09:00 guest-3618: @Traci yup!
09:00 guest-3623: thx
09:00 guest-3610: I just googled "hmago" and the images were mangos
09:00 guest-3433: someone could sing
09:00 guest-3610: not what you had in mind
09:00 guest-3433: while we're waiting
09:00 guest-3435: HOMAGO sign goes up in the classroom tomorrow. By the skate shop sign and the helpful "Air Brush" sign next to the air brush.
09:00 guest-3617: theme song: Domo Arigato Mr. Homago...
09:01 guest-3433: sing antero..
09:01 guest-3610: thanks
09:01 guest-3433: connect
09:02 guest-3433: - again
09:02 pgeorge:
09:02 guest-3435: Digital Is shares out the Connected Learning infographic ( and principles (
09:03 guest-3618:
09:03 pgeorge: thanks for the links!
09:04 guest-3625: hey monika
09:04 guest-3433: ah shoot
09:04 guest-3625: i just got booted out of the hangout
09:04 guest-3433: froze
09:05 guest-3625: so you should free free to join
09:05 guest-3618: I can't hear now
09:05 guest-3618: connection lost :(
09:05 guest-3433: hold on Paul.. looks like everyone might have
09:05 guest-3625: ah, got it
09:05 guest-3618: back!
09:06 guest-3618: learning principles: interest-powered, peer supported, academically oriented ...
09:06 guest-3618: design principles: production-centered, openly networked, shared purpose
09:06 pgeorge: Paul, you're the master of technology! great recovery!
09:08 guest-3433: so good to see you two lovelies..
09:10 guest-3625: not being in the hangout lets me eat a banana
09:11 guest-3625: just to say, Katie was a marvelous presenter at the DML conference
09:12 guest-3618: let me second that @paul oh
09:12 guest-3618: wonder what's happening in google land tonight ...
09:12 guest-3625: she made a great case for the use of digital tools for her English language learners as a social justice issue
09:13 guest-3623: unfortunately, I do not know your faces. who is this speaking?
09:13 guest-3625: This is Chad Sansing speaking now
09:13 guest-3623: thank you
09:13 guest-3625: Chad teaches at a middle school in Virginia
09:13 guest-3433: hey - i keep losing livestream.. i'm heading into hangout if there's only nine. paul - tell me if you want back in..
09:14 guest-3625: Katie, who was the previous speaker, teaches at an elementary school in Austin
09:14 guest-3625: ok, cool, Monika
09:14 guest-3618: more from Chad,
09:14 guest-3625: You're welcome, Traci
09:17 guest-3435: Paul Oh: I knew you would have my introductory back.
09:17 guest-3625: totally, Chad
09:18 guest-3625: consider me your intern
09:18 guest-3435: Paul, you have flipped the Top Gun ending on me. I am quipless.
09:18 guest-3433: where is cliff?
09:19 guest-3625: Cliff is in the doc program at UCLA, Monika
09:19 guest-3618: Cliff is in LA now -- at UCLA
09:19 guest-3618: what paul said :)
09:19 guest-3625: I agree with Cliff
09:20 guest-3618: Fred is from Watsonville CA, Central Cal WP
09:20 guest-3435: Let me thank NWP, as Meenoo did, for supporting the DYN/NWP panel on digital composition at #DML2012, and for the continued opportunities to share and learn that NWP gives schools, teachers, and students.
09:20 guest-3625: We have to give a shoutout to Antero for organizing the public ed strand at DML
09:20 guest-3625: and really bringing more of a voice of k-12 educators into the conference this year
09:20 guest-3435: Antero!
09:21 guest-3618: Meenoo organizes a chat every Monday night at 7pm at #engchat
09:21 guest-3433: 7pm est?
09:21 guest-3625: yes, 7 pm EST
09:21 guest-3618: yes, sorry. 7pm ET
09:23 guest-3625: love that - public school as a public event
09:24 guest-3625: "trailing edge" technologies - hadn't heard that term before
09:25 guest-3433: : )
09:26 pgeorge: thank you all for participating in this chat (outside of the hangout) Really helps me to stay connected. :-)
09:26 guest-3433: what's on antero's arm?
09:26 guest-3435: Don't know if my last two comments made it: love the idea of public school as public event; also, follow the librarians and maker spaces!
09:27 guest-3625: i'm pretty sure it's a tat
09:27 guest-3623: I'm hoping its his notes for what he's saying
09:27 guest-3433: yeah.. but what
09:27 guest-3433: find out paul
09:27 guest-3623: it's*
09:27 guest-3625: my new mission
09:27 guest-3433: this is a multi player game... eclectic people... needs to be everyone
09:28 guest-3433: everywhere.. any which way
09:29 guest-3625: here's a link to Antero's blog post reflection on DML:
09:29 Paul Allison: Chris's students at a Catholic HS were up in arms about how sex ed is taught?
09:30 guest-3433: they are when we free them up.. we just keep them so busy with standards..
09:30 guest-3617: gotta sign off for another meeting
09:30 guest-3617: enjoying this conversation though
09:30 guest-3625: see ya Antero!
09:30 guest-3612: By Antero!
09:30 guest-3433: thank you Antero
09:30 guest-3617: oh... just saw the question. my arm is a stanza from poem by this guy:
09:30 guest-3433: want to know what your tatoo is
09:31 guest-3433: thanks
09:31 guest-3433: : )
09:32 guest-3618: thank you Antero!
09:32 guest-3518:
09:32 pgeorge: those partnerships make a huge difference
09:33 guest-3618: and thanks for asking about that too monika!
09:33 guest-3518: I'm wondering about the partnerships that lead to civic engagement
09:34 guest-3518: examples?
09:34 guest-3433: city as school, country as school, colin ward
09:34 guest-3433: change the convo.. ask new questions
09:35 guest-3433: get away from thinking.. class.. for one
09:35 guest-3433: self - assessment
09:35 guest-3623: khan university model
09:35 guest-3625: Chris Sloan, i would argue that youth voices is a partnershiip that facilitates civic engagement
09:36 pgeorge: good point Paul
09:36 pgeorge: Paul Oh :-)
09:36 guest-3625: a similar group: puget sound off
09:36 guest-3625: Th anks!
09:37 guest-3433: yes, 5 yr olds know curiosity...
09:38 guest-3518: Agreed, Paul. But still my students get overwhelmed sometimes and shut down. We've been talking about that a lot
09:38 guest-3433: that's huge Chris
09:38 guest-3625: Lacy's work is so great and interesting
09:38 guest-3625: and what has come up in the convos, Chris?
09:39 guest-3618: see some of Lacy's work with her students here -- Wanna See A Movie?
09:40 guest-3625: i love the "Wanna See the Movie" resource, Christina
09:41 guest-3518: some media literacy kinds of stuff. How to judge credibility. Daisey in China has been a topic today. What is truth? What happens when dramatic truth still serves a shared purpose (even in Kony), etc
09:41 guest-3433: we need to be offering up spaces of permission... where they don't have our honey do list in hand
09:41 guest-3618: I think that it is fascinating too for the reasons that Lacy named ... the experience of connected learning in the early childhood classrooms
09:42 guest-3435: Viva agency.
09:42 guest-3625: seems like the media literacy question is one we're all dealing with, youth and adults alike
09:42 guest-3433: it's and...
09:43 guest-3625: "offering up spaces of permission" - you sound like Chad Sansing, Monika :)
09:43 guest-3433: i'm a chad groupie
09:43 guest-3625: me too, me too!
09:43 pgeorge: I think good early childhood teachers really "get" this! following the student lead and capturing it through observation, video, documentation to extend their learning. I can tell Lacy is an awesome teacher!
09:43 guest-3435: I sound like Monika on my best-self days, Paul.
09:44 guest-3618: I agree pgeorge ... that's what I am thinking about too....
09:44 guest-3618: at least seems like a really rich source of learning and reflection
09:45 pgeorge: early childhood teachers don't think in terms of subjects--they start from where the child is and help them grow
09:45 guest-3625: great point - yes, starting from where the child is critical
09:46 guest-3433: wow
09:46 guest-3618: I love the nail polish story!
09:46 guest-3433: who's to say what silly is.. no?
09:48 pgeorge: yes great stories!
09:48 guest-3625: when i taught 2nd grade, we used to have reading buddies with a fifth grade class
09:48 pgeorge: I always loved those cross-grade connections and so did the students!
09:49 guest-3625: it was one of my kids' favorite moments - connecting with others, sharing
09:49 guest-3435: A couple of projects come to mind: a blog/website for a class skateboard design shop; a student interested in opening a label for his brother and local punks connected with a high school friend of mine who runs a home-recording vinyl label; students sharing civics & criminal-justice process themed fan fic based on video game and cartoon characters; mosaic-making spreading between classes and students as self-directed work.
09:50 pgeorge: wow Chris! great ideas!
09:51 pgeorge: like the name of passion projects :-)
09:51 pgeorge: they are probably their favorite days of the week
09:52 guest-3433: exactly
09:52 guest-3618: I love Meenoo enthusiasm about her own learning from her students -- yes! A Digital Is is post is a GREAT idea :)
09:52 pgeorge: I agree Christina!
09:52 guest-3518: Recent example of connected learning on Youth Voices:
09:54 guest-3618: i-search is a foundation of Youth Voices -- right Paul?
09:54 pgeorge: did she say iServed?
09:54 guest-3435: Go, go, awesome learners!
09:54 guest-3618: Paul and Chris, I mean?!
09:54 pgeorge: aha-i-search
09:54 guest-3618: i-Search
09:55 guest-3623: Ken Macrorie
09:55 guest-3518: I-Search has a lot in common with Youth Voices. Based on students authentic inquiry.
09:56 guest-3623: I was chastised the first time I assigned I-Search papers
09:56 guest-3518: more social than the I-Search though, I'd say
09:56 pgeorge: really Traci??? why?
09:56 guest-3623: they were considered "less formal" kinds of writing
09:57 guest-3623: Which I think was my advisor's way of complaining about i-language versus the more objective formal language of the cardboard research paper
09:58 guest-3618: keep telling stories!
09:58 pgeorge: i-Search Paper book revised in 1988 :-) Love it!! Still has some relevance
09:58 guest-3618: you all are powerful storytellers ... and these are powerful important stories!
09:58 guest-3433:
09:59 guest-3435: If media literacies can't be taught - in that direct-instruction sense of the word - at school, they can surely be learned given rich, trusting communities and choice.
09:59 pgeorge: I agree! the stories really help to understand the philosophical points
09:59 guest-3435: Team Paul Allison or Team Paul Oh?
09:59 guest-3435: We need tee shirts.
09:59 guest-3433: thanks guys...
10:00 guest-3625: tshirts for sure
10:00 pgeorge: yes Chad--focus on the learning rather than the teaching
10:00 guest-3623: Thanks everyone
10:00 guest-3625: yes, thanks everyone!
10:00 pgeorge: hahaha Monika!
10:00 guest-3435: Thanks, NWP & MacArthur!
10:00 pgeorge: tshirts and mugs :-)
10:00 guest-3625: such a great conversation
10:00 pgeorge: thank you all!
10:00 guest-3618: Thank you everyone! You are awesome.
10:00 guest-3612: Thank you everyone.
10:00 guest-3625: night, all!
10:00 guest-3435: Word.
10:00 guest-3618: And thank you EdTechTalk ... you guys are working on connected learning too :)
10:00 guest-3613: night everyone, Thanks again for invitation
10:00 guest-3625: you were terrific, Meenoo
10:01 guest-3613: Thanks Paul