2011-02-28 20:49:40 [Message] msonya -> EdTechTalk: Hi WC from Bulverde!
2011-02-28 20:52:35 [Message] whitneychandler -> EdTechTalk: Hi SH from SA!  
2011-02-28 20:59:24 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Hi everyone! I'm so excited to see your preso and chat with you tonight! I loved your presentation!!
2011-02-28 21:02:15 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: hi we are having tech issues
2011-02-28 21:02:25 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: I featured your video on the K12 Online Conference page so it will be easy to find when people go to the site. http://k12online.ning.com/video
2011-02-28 21:02:39 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: no problem--worth the wait! :-)
2011-02-28 21:03:03 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: could not get the video playing
2011-02-28 21:03:20 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: oh no :-( so sorry!
2011-02-28 21:03:26 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: I am too
2011-02-28 21:03:38 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: we are waiting for Jose to get home and setup and take over
2011-02-28 21:03:49 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: right now trying to call guests
2011-02-28 21:04:04 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: we can all watch it on the K12 Online site and then come back to this chat and the skype discussion
2011-02-28 21:04:23 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: http://k12online.ning.com/video/students-redefine-school
2011-02-28 21:04:24 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: we may have to do that
2011-02-28 21:04:33 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: it's a good backup plan :-)
2011-02-28 21:07:49 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: a few technical difficulties - so starting in a few minutes
2011-02-28 21:08:44 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=656  video is here if you need it
2011-02-28 21:08:48 [Message] lorna -> EdTechTalk: we will start in about 5 min
2011-02-28 21:08:53 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: ok
2011-02-28 21:10:06 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Hi Jim-so excited to hear from you tonight!
2011-02-28 21:10:30 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Hi Peggy!
2011-02-28 21:11:10 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: technology is so incredible when it cooperates :-)
2011-02-28 21:11:36 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yep. That's the truth. 
2011-02-28 21:12:02 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: we should be having your tech lab students helping us host our Echo shows :-)
2011-02-28 21:12:35 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: hearing you now
2011-02-28 21:13:03 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: it's winter break for many schools but in Phoenix AZ it was about 78 degrees today :-)
2011-02-28 21:13:23 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: audio is excellent!
2011-02-28 21:14:14 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: can everyone in the skype call see the chat?
2011-02-28 21:14:50 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Monika and Jim are my heroes!! Doing awesome things with technology!
2011-02-28 21:16:16 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: we'll definitely want to hear about how you created that video!!
2011-02-28 21:17:30 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=656  there are great links you provided to support your presentation here
2011-02-28 21:17:53 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: love that! do they know what to do when they don't know what to do :-)
2011-02-28 21:18:12 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yes I love that too.  Great idea
2011-02-28 21:18:18 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: that's the key! learning how to learn 
2011-02-28 21:18:39 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: learning by doing and not just learning from the teacher!
2011-02-28 21:18:47 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Notice, dream, connect, do
2011-02-28 21:19:04 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: A cycle - that never ends.
2011-02-28 21:19:10 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: excellent Jim! great quote
2011-02-28 21:20:36 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: really excited to be seeing this again!
2011-02-28 21:21:21 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Our video - from K-12 online conference... Here it is... 
2011-02-28 21:21:29 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: video is coming through great! Thanks Jose!
2011-02-28 21:23:03 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yep... looks good.
2011-02-28 21:23:23 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: it's so sad that students lose their creativity and curiosity for learning after years in school
2011-02-28 21:24:32 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: getting in touch with themselves
2011-02-28 21:25:10 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: does the curriculum help them to become better observers or is that just part of their natural learning?
2011-02-28 21:26:23 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Great question... I think we can all improve our ability to notice. 
2011-02-28 21:27:11 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: are these middle school students?
2011-02-28 21:27:40 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Mainly high school students
2011-02-28 21:27:43 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: thanks
2011-02-28 21:28:19 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: that's a powerful statement--not just doing/following what everyone else is doing but following their own passion
2011-02-28 21:28:47 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: Are the students self-selected?
2011-02-28 21:28:48 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: We all want that for our kids... that would be nice. 
2011-02-28 21:29:08 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Hi Monika... 
2011-02-28 21:29:19 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: it really would! but unfortunately most school environments don't encourage that (not on the test)...
2011-02-28 21:29:33 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: hi
2011-02-28 21:29:38 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Hi Monika :-)
2011-02-28 21:29:48 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: Welcome, Monika
2011-02-28 21:30:00 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: The question was - are the students self-selected?  
2011-02-28 21:30:02 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: thanks
2011-02-28 21:30:04 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Monika
2011-02-28 21:30:05 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: ?
2011-02-28 21:30:19 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: what do you mean by self selected
2011-02-28 21:30:43 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: are you guys still watching? should i be typing or talking
2011-02-28 21:30:50 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: how did you help them make these connections? are they people in your own PLNs?
2011-02-28 21:30:53 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Still watching
2011-02-28 21:30:55 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: still watching
2011-02-28 21:30:59 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: Was this a compulsory course or did they opt in?
2011-02-28 21:31:10 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: yes - most people i've met over the last 2 years
2011-02-28 21:31:13 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: twitter, skype
2011-02-28 21:31:19 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: You can click on the arrow in the ustream window
2011-02-28 21:31:20 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk:  but some came with them..
2011-02-28 21:32:01 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: this was amazing.. the insight from our homeless community
2011-02-28 21:32:22 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: was it difficult to manage so many different projects at the same time in the Innovation Lab? did they meet daily?
2011-02-28 21:32:52 [Message] monk51295 -> EdTechTalk: most met every other day... and no - it's easy when it's self-directed, they are motivated
2011-02-28 21:33:32 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: video really captured their experiences!!
2011-02-28 21:33:42 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: so well done!!
2011-02-28 21:34:11 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: hearing you great Monika
2011-02-28 21:34:58 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: The Students sound very passonate about their learning.
2011-02-28 21:35:01 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: how did you get the district to provide this lab?
2011-02-28 21:36:14 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: how did you guide students to find their own passion? did they have to come in with a passion they wanted to explore?
2011-02-28 21:36:53 [Message] rhbryant89@gmail.com -> EdTechTalk: Is there anyone here?
2011-02-28 21:37:01 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yep
2011-02-28 21:37:04 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: is there a teacher in the lab all day long?
2011-02-28 21:37:07 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: welcome
2011-02-28 21:37:47 [Message] rhbryant89@gmail.com -> EdTechTalk: I'm a newbie. Is this mostly designed toward education tech in the classroom? Is it IT driven?
2011-02-28 21:38:12 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: it sounds like it IS an amazing district!
2011-02-28 21:38:35 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: does your district have an AUP that allows these kinds of social media connections and tools?
2011-02-28 21:40:27 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: time to reflect and think! such a valuable point! 
2011-02-28 21:41:01 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yes BE is so important - It is very important to creativity and innovation. 
2011-02-28 21:41:17 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: what do mentors do?
2011-02-28 21:41:25 [Message] Susan van Gelder -> EdTechTalk: Time for thinking and reflection
2011-02-28 21:42:13 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do the students get credit for the time they spend in the innovation lab? is it considered a class?
2011-02-28 21:42:40 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Connecting these days is easy.
2011-02-28 21:43:02 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: lots of feedback
2011-02-28 21:43:03 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: yes Jim if the tools aren't blocked :-)
2011-02-28 21:43:08 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yep
2011-02-28 21:43:57 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: :-) always something to learn, huh?
2011-02-28 21:44:32 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: you've got it Monika
2011-02-28 21:45:19 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: how many teachers to work with 100 students in the lab?
2011-02-28 21:45:56 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do the students feel "famous" now that they have been featured on the K12 Online conference to people around the world?
2011-02-28 21:46:31 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: how did you get the district to unblock facebook for students to use?
2011-02-28 21:47:35 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: perfect Monika! audio feedback is gone now
2011-02-28 21:48:10 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: what do the mentors do? just provide moral support and guidance?
2011-02-28 21:48:16 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Parents bring their kids from all over. 
2011-02-28 21:48:17 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: hearing you fine Monika
2011-02-28 21:48:21 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: We can hear you.
2011-02-28 21:48:40 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Parents are looking for these types of opportunities for their kids.
2011-02-28 21:48:46 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do the kids like having their parents involved in their projects in the room?
2011-02-28 21:49:13 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: I'll bet the parents love it!
2011-02-28 21:49:39 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: that's a great project for a pre-service teacher!!
2011-02-28 21:50:32 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: because you're a math teacher does that limit what you can do in the lab with the kids?
2011-02-28 21:51:11 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Detox
2011-02-28 21:53:00 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1bfouihejeCFJlVHML84YC37v6cofQoQjgCp5ZcH9NHM# I loved this document you shared with the voices of the students--that would be a great resource to share with a district if you wanted to create a similar experience
2011-02-28 21:53:53 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: that's such an interesting concept that youtube is driving innovation! I think it is :-)
2011-02-28 21:54:04 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yes - I do as well.  
2011-02-28 21:54:18 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Have you watched that TED talk?
2011-02-28 21:54:22 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do you ever use TED Talks with the students?
2011-02-28 21:54:30 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: funny Jim! we're thinking the same way...
2011-02-28 21:55:10 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: yes I saw that TED Talk :-)
2011-02-28 21:55:40 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=656
2011-02-28 21:56:11 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Zo53M0lcY Chris Anderson's TED Talk on youtube driving innovation
2011-02-28 21:57:06 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: really feel motivated to check links in you presentation page 
2011-02-28 21:57:59 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: absolutely Jose! they have provided some great links
2011-02-28 21:58:00 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Peggy... tell me more about how you are thinking?
2011-02-28 21:58:04 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: The same way.
2011-02-28 21:58:07 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: ?
2011-02-28 21:58:27 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: I suggested TED TAlks at the same time you were suggesting Chris Anderson's TED Talk :-)
2011-02-28 21:58:35 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: :)
2011-02-28 21:58:50 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do you ever use the TED Talks to help inspire the students to think outside the box?
2011-02-28 21:59:09 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yes - monika encourages the students to start with TED
2011-02-28 21:59:27 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: that's great!
2011-02-28 21:59:29 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: If they don't know where to go... 
2011-02-28 21:59:57 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: is journaling optional? so many students resist the writing
2011-02-28 22:00:10 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Any ideas on great models for reflection?
2011-02-28 22:00:22 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: In a multimedia way?
2011-02-28 22:00:41 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: I was going to ask you that :-) I've seen many examples but not sure about "models"
2011-02-28 22:01:08 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: phlogs--photo logs for reflection :-)
2011-02-28 22:01:25 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: As you can see this is an ongoing conversation.
2011-02-28 22:01:35 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Yep.
2011-02-28 22:01:58 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: very excited to be hearing this ongoing conversation
2011-02-28 22:02:27 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: funny.. He will hear this..
2011-02-28 22:02:48 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Angela Maiers is doing some awesome things with the passion-driven concept! Have you read her book? Passion Driven Classroom
2011-02-28 22:03:21 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: wow.. Angela does some cool things
2011-02-28 22:03:37 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: http://vimeo.com/20412323
2011-02-28 22:03:41 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Here is that video.
2011-02-28 22:04:01 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: http://www.angelamaiers.com/passion-driven some outstanding guest blog posts here
2011-02-28 22:04:43 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: thanks for the vimeo link!
2011-02-28 22:05:41 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: do the students get credit for participation in the lab?
2011-02-28 22:06:29 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: thanks for that clarification Monika--that makes a lot of sense!
2011-02-28 22:06:30 [Message] Jose Rodriguez -> EdTechTalk: reminds me of Piaget and constructive learning.. by ethe learner itself
2011-02-28 22:07:25 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: very constructivist!!
2011-02-28 22:07:44 [Message] Jim Folkestad -> EdTechTalk: Thank you!
2011-02-28 22:08:20 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: so sad that so much emphasis on standardized testing has reduced the use of constructivist approach to learning and definitely doesn't value passion driven learning
2011-02-28 22:08:44 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: thank you Jim and Monika!! it was great chatting with you and seeing your video again!! Super job!
2011-02-28 22:09:16 [Message] Peggy George -> EdTechTalk: Thanks Susan and Jose! Another great Echo conversation!