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Women of Web 2.0.12 - EdubloggerCon & School 2.0 with Chris , Steve , & Will

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Women of Web 2.0.12
January 23, 2007
For this show you need a fizzy drink! It was an amazing discussion about School 2.0, Science Leadership Academy in Philadelphia. PA, USA and how all these new technology tools are the underpinnings of the changes taking place in pedagogy of the 21st Century Schools.
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20:37:25 charbeck1 -> I have chosen salmon for the evening
20:39:24 Vicki Davis -> Worldbridges: OK, they said go to edtechtalk so I'm going to sign out and go there.
20:39:52 Vicki Davis -> Hello! I'm here now!
20:39:55 TerryFreedman -> greetings
20:40:00 SteveHargadon -> I'm here.
20:40:01 Vicki Davis -> Hello Terry!
20:40:08 cheryloakes wow2 -> Hi Terry, Steve, VIcki
20:40:17 TerryFreedman -> I must be off my trolley
20:40:26 Vicki Davis -> This 2 a.m. thing is getting to be a habit!
20:40:38 TerryFreedman -> i know
20:40:45 TerryFreedman -> AND i have to be sensible tomorrw
20:40:55 TerryFreedman -> I blame Sharon
20:42:02 Willrich -> Hey Terry...Will R. here
20:42:21 TerryFreedman -> hi there Will. Hey,
20:42:37 Vicki Davis -> And you are always sensible?
20:42:42 TerryFreedman -> sorry I din't respond to a comment u made on my blog -- I only discovered it last week
20:43:08 Willrich -> I had a great video skype call with John Bidder's daughter today...
20:43:15 TerryFreedman -> no, Vicky, but tomorrow I am chairing a really important meeting, and I ain't even read the papers yet
20:43:26 Willrich -> Tried to get her to understand that it's the mail man not the post man ;0)
20:43:28 TerryFreedman -> haven't met her
20:43:40 TerryFreedman -> had a great convo with Sharon's daughter tho
20:43:44 Willrich -> She's seven
20:43:45 TerryFreedman -> I saw John last week
20:43:54 TerryFreedman -> lol
20:44:07 Willrich -> Hope to get back over there soon...
20:44:09 SteveHargadon -> Long day for you, Terry!
20:44:10 TerryFreedman -> I love kids of that age
20:44:28 TerryFreedman -> I know, I was at my desk at 7 am
20:44:31 Willrich -> She's wonderful...prom date for my son.
20:44:36 TerryFreedman -> lol
20:44:54 TerryFreedman -> just out of interest, is anyone talking, cos I can't hear nothing
20:45:18 TerryFreedman -> gotta do something about my grammar
20:45:52 TerryFreedman -> Will, don't come over yet: it's freezing here
20:46:30 Vicki Davis -> No one is talking.
20:46:35 Willrich -> Same here...finally
20:46:52 sharonp -> Hi Terry
20:46:59 sharonp -> am busy updating our chat wiki
20:47:01 TerryFreedman -> hello Sharon
20:47:12 TerryFreedman -> Will, how old is yr son?
20:47:18 sharonp -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
20:48:14 Willrich -> He's seven...
20:48:28 ChrisL -> hey folks...
20:48:28 TerryFreedman -> kool :-)
20:48:33 charbeck1 -> Good evening everyone
20:48:36 Willrich -> CHRIIISSSSS
20:48:40 sharonp -> Hi Chris!
20:48:41 TerryFreedman -> yo
20:49:01 Willrich -> Nice post about Seattle...looked like it was fun...
20:49:08 ChrisL -> My apologies if my coughing is REALLY disruptive, by the way...
20:49:23 ChrisL -> Thanks. It was a blast. Larry Rosenstock is SO who I want to be when I grow up.
20:49:41 TerryFreedman -> I wanna go to Seattle
20:49:53 Willrich -> Since I want to be you when I grow up does that make him my grandfather?
20:50:08 ChrisL -> HA!
20:50:14 ChrisL -> You could do worse!
20:50:19 TerryFreedman -> does that mean that if one of you dies the pother one will disappear?
20:50:27 Willrich -> I'd love to meet him
20:50:28 TerryFreedman -> other*
20:50:34 Vicki Davis -> You're starting to sound like the people down here in Georgia -- "I'm my own grandpa" is actually a song!
20:50:35 ChrisL -> My blog -- http://www.practicaltheory.org/serendipity
20:50:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> hello all is there a sttream?
20:50:43 TerryFreedman -> lol
20:50:51 ChrisL -> Will -- he's brilliant.
20:51:09 charbeck1 -> no stream
20:51:20 TerryFreedman -> no stream? typical
20:51:37 cheryloakes wow2 -> I just started it, and there is a 30 sec. delay
20:51:39 Willrich -> I know I'm cutting this close, but I need about five more minutes...
20:51:48 cheryloakes wow2 -> no problem take time
20:51:52 TerryFreedman -> i read a sci fi story about that once
20:52:13 TerryFreedman -> where this astronaut was living 1 minute ahead of everyone else
20:52:16 charbeck1 -> stream is on
20:52:29 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks chris!!!
20:52:32 Vicki Davis -> Game on!
20:52:34 JenniferW -> hello room
20:52:40 Vicki Davis -> Hello, Jen.
20:52:42 charbeck1 -> Got your back cheryl
20:52:50 TerryFreedman -> i can't hear it
20:52:52 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks so much chris
20:53:04 cheryloakes wow2 -> terry go to chanel A on Ed Tech Talk A
20:53:05 charbeck1 -> YOu have 8
20:53:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> 8 what?
20:53:22 charbeck1 -> minutes
20:53:28 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks
20:53:53 Vicki Davis -> The links are at http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
20:54:05 jeff -> red means I have admin access which gives moderator permssions
20:54:16 jeff -> like kicking naughty participants and banning IP's
20:54:18 JenniferW -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
20:54:21 Vicki Davis -> Oh!
20:54:22 JenniferW -> that is the link to the wiki
20:54:28 jeff -> will be sending out a note to all WB show hosts
20:54:32 TerryFreedman -> Jeff looks embarrased
20:54:33 cheryloakes wow2 -> hey Jeff, pretty neat
20:54:38 jeff -> so they can have those 'powers' as well
20:55:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> I did not realize you could kick naughties.
20:55:07 ChrisL -> am I back?
20:55:13 JenniferW -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123  WIKI LINK
20:55:15 charbeck1 -> groupies
20:55:15 TerryFreedman -> it is a lie!!
20:55:22 jeff -> after be defenseless during the webcastathon, needed to figure out how to put 'shields up' if necessary
20:55:23 Vicki Davis -> I like that! 
20:55:33 cheryloakes wow2 -> oh, sure Jeff.
20:55:56 charbeck1 -> Jeff make sure they are at full strengh...Scotty would be proud
20:56:11 cheryloakes wow2 -> that is great beam me up.
20:56:21 jeff -> Engage!
20:56:37 TerryFreedman -> what is Heroes?
20:56:58 Vicki Davis -> It is a TV show -- but I only watch the show of the super geeks - - Battlestar Gallactica.
20:57:02 ChrisL -> Heroes is a serial drama TV show.
20:57:09 TerryFreedman -> lol
20:57:12 jeff -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_(TV_series)
20:57:14 ChrisL -> Vicki -- I was on the set of the SciFi Pilot episodes. :)
20:57:17 TerryFreedman -> ty
20:57:25 Vicki Davis -> Oh, really!  Cool, Chris.
20:57:44 ChrisL -> ya... my wife was the Sr. VP of Publicity for SciFi.
20:57:54 Vicki Davis -> Oh, Chris, I am so jealous!
20:57:56 TerryFreedman -> i am sorry, but I gotta hit the hay
20:58:01 SharonP -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
20:58:02 Vicki Davis -> Goodnight Terry!
20:58:07 ChrisL -> Night Terry!
20:58:11 TerryFreedman -> nite nite
20:58:12 SharonP -> Terry, sleep well, sweet dreams
20:58:17 Vicki Davis -> We wouldn't want your wife to be upset about spending another night with your ladies.
20:58:18 TerryFreedman -> ty
20:58:20 cheryloakes wow2 -> bye terry
20:58:26 charbeck1 -> bye terry
20:58:28 TerryFreedman -> sry I can't listen
20:59:07 TerryFreedman -> 30 seconds! It's terrible
20:59:16 Vicki Davis -> Sorry for the 30 second delay!
20:59:23 TerryFreedman -> lol
20:59:24 sroseman -> oh that terrible bug
20:59:37 cheryloakes wow2 -> you can get the podcast tomorrow, or today where you are.
20:59:56 ChrisL -> tell me about it!
20:59:58 TerryFreedman -> that's right, thx, will do
21:00:08 TerryFreedman -> have a great time y'all
21:00:55 TerryFreedman -> lol
21:00:58 TerryFreedman -> bye
21:01:06 Vicki Davis -> Bye Y'all -- we'll make you a southerner yet!
21:01:09 JenniferW -> WOW2 --- January 23, 2007 -- Show #12
21:01:14 TerryFreedman -> am trying
21:01:16 TerryFreedman -> lol
21:01:57 charbeck1 -> mic level sharron
21:02:06 sroseman -> winter is here in Ottawa
21:02:17 JenniferW -> http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123 -- wiki -- if you want to post ??? or comments
21:02:22 vinniev -> -EVO 2007: alice, you want to move to edtech talks forum on the right
21:04:29 sroseman -> clap..clap..
21:04:54 JenniferW -> Here is the link to Wes' post
21:04:55 JenniferW -> http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2007/01/23/singing-not-on-the-test/
21:04:56 charbeck1 -> beware stumble upon is addicting
21:05:01 JenniferW -> listen to it later  :)
21:05:03 charbeck1 -> and fun too
21:05:15 JenniferW -> Yes, Chris -- very very addicting but I have found TONS of sites
21:05:23 Vicki Davis -> http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2007/01/spies-like-us.html
21:05:27 Vicki Davis -> Spies like us.
21:05:54 ChrisL -> Is Alice Barr the principal in Brooklyn?
21:06:16 cheryloakes wow2 -> alice is a teacher in Yarmouth ME
21:06:34 ChrisL -> ah.. gotcha. THere's an Alice Barr who is a principal of a new HS in Brooklyn, as I recall. :)
21:06:40 JenniferW -> Welcome to Steve Hargadon!!!
21:07:06 cheryloakes wow2 -> Welcome to all in the Chat room, so glad you are here.
21:07:28 JenniferW -> WIKI LINK -- http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
21:08:33 JenniferW -> http://www.stevehargadon.com/
21:08:38 JenniferW -> That is Steve's Website
21:08:51 Vicki Davis -> Do we have the link for the infinite thinking machine podcast?
21:09:01 JenniferW -> will run and get it
21:09:11 ChrisL -> Was that Lucy Grey?
21:09:14 jeff -> Sorry to be an audio nag (again), but beware of breathing noises - sounds like nasal breathing is getting picked up by someone's mic
21:09:20 JenniferW -> http://www.infinitethinking.org/
21:09:37 JenniferW -> we have a guest with a cold -- sorry
21:09:40 Vicki Davis -> Thanks Jeff.
21:09:43 vinniev -> It was a wonderful interview
21:09:44 John_Pederson -> incredible interview  :)
21:09:48 ChrisL -> I don't think it's me!
21:09:51 Vicki Davis -> hello, John!
21:09:56 JenniferW -> LOL--I am muted
21:09:59 JenniferW -> so its not me
21:10:02 Vicki Davis -> I hope you'll come on the show sometime, hint hint.
21:10:07 ChrisL -> I'm waaaay away from my mic for just that reason!
21:10:08 John_Pederson -> :)
21:10:24 sendkathy -> I made it!
21:10:27 JenniferW -> Will's Link -- http://weblogg-ed.com/
21:10:28 SteveHargadon -> www.infinitethinking.com
21:10:30 cheryloakes wow2 -> Hi Kathy
21:10:32 JenniferW -> HI Kathy
21:10:32 sendkathy -> What did I miss?
21:10:38 sendkathy -> Hi all
21:10:38 JenniferW -> Will's Blog -- http://weblogg-ed.com/
21:10:44 sendkathy -> thx
21:10:45 cheryloakes wow2 -> still doing intro, just missed Steve
21:10:47 JenniferW -> just Steve Hargadon's intro
21:10:57 JenniferW -> his links are on the blog
21:11:03 JenniferW -> on the wiki
21:11:07 sendkathy -> I'll check it out
21:11:15 JenniferW -> http://www.infinitethinking.org/
21:11:21 Durff -> hI EVERYONE!
21:11:27 JenniferW -> http://www.stevehargadon.com/
21:11:29 Vicki Davis -> Hello Mrs. Durff!
21:11:32 JenniferW -> Those are the links you missed
21:11:34 cheryloakes wow2 -> hey durff, glad you are here
21:11:35 sendkathy -> hi barbara
21:11:42 Durff -> Hi Mrs. Davis!
21:11:59 JenniferW -> Will Richardson's Blog -- http://weblogg-ed.com/
21:12:28 JenniferW -> I think those are all the links you missed
21:13:07 JenniferW -> http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/Web+2.0+1-day+and+2-day
21:13:13 JenniferW -> check that link out
21:13:18 Durff -> Thank you!
21:13:33 Durff -> I've been to the wiki
21:14:08 Durff -> starting a wiki collaboration project with a school in MO
21:14:26 JenniferW -> Chris Lehman's Blog -- http://www.practicaltheory.org/serendipity/
21:14:38 Vicki Davis -> Three great bloggers on tonight!
21:14:38 JenniferW -> Chris Lehmann
21:14:42 SteveHargadon -> Steve's interview and workshop site:  www.edtechlive.com
21:14:45 JenniferW -> 2 n's in Lehmann
21:15:27 JenniferW -> Ribbon Cutting Ceremony blog entry -- http://practicaltheory.org/serendipity/index.php?/archives/680-My-Remark...
21:16:06 SimonSays -> Good evening all
21:16:10 ChrisL -> that was a really amazing day...
21:16:15 cheryloakes wow2 -> hello simon
21:16:20 Vicki Davis -> www.edubloggercon.com
21:17:30 JenniferW -> http://edubloggercon.googlepages.com/
21:18:23 Durff -> what about the PETE-C on 2/11-2/13?
21:18:29 Vicki Davis -> edubloggercon.wikispaces.com
21:18:32 JenniferW -> NECC -- http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2007/
21:18:41 JenniferW -> runing for the PETE-C link too -- thanks Lisa
21:19:15 JenniferW -> PETE-C  == http://www.peteandc.org/
21:19:22 JenniferW -> TONS of links tonight
21:19:30 JenniferW -> if you miss one -- check the wiki later
21:21:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> hi nzchrissy, how was your day?
21:21:30 JenniferW -> check ALL our blogs for more newson the edublogger conference
21:21:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> our new zealand connection!
21:21:40 nzchrissy -> Hi, very frustrating it took a while to get in here today for some reason???
21:21:50 cheryloakes wow2 -> glad you made it,
21:21:59 JenniferW -> NZ -- into this room or into the stream??
21:22:02 Durff -> welcome!
21:22:16 Vicki Davis -> Sorry it took some time to get in.
21:22:24 nzchrissy -> Glad to be here and it was just getting into the room - probably just me
21:22:36 SteveHargadon -> Audio interview series on "School 2." can be found at http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/recordings+list
21:22:46 JenniferW -> we are going to have a WOW2 room here hopefully soon!
21:22:48 SharonP -> I agree Chrissy - they have changed some things here and you really have to pay attention to what room you are choosing!
21:22:51 cheryloakes wow2 -> great links will keep us busy
21:23:01 SimonSays -> Hi SharonP, I'm a colleague of Chris Betcher's
21:23:08 Vicki Davis -> We had a tricky time getting in as well.
21:23:10 cheryloakes wow2 -> Chrissy, I started out in the wrong room too.
21:23:20 nzchrissy -> Hi Sharon - yes I think I was sitting in a room all by myself for a while! hehehe
21:23:20 SteveHargadon -> School 2.0 wiki at http://school20.wikispaces.com
21:24:07 sendkathy -> what about the one laptop per child global initiative
21:24:29 sendkathy -> what will the impact be on the US
21:25:08 JenniferW -> will the $100 be available in the US??
21:25:28 SharonP -> right now I have heard the $100 laptop is really the $200 laptop....
21:25:31 Vicki Davis -> I think that handheld iphone type derivatives will replace laptops (with infrared keyboards).
21:25:38 JenniferW -> what grade level is Chris???
21:25:49 Vicki Davis -> http://school20.wikispaces.com
21:25:55 Vicki Davis -> Chris is the principal.
21:25:58 JenniferW -> http://school20.wikispaces.com
21:26:03 JenniferW -> ahhh -- thanks
21:26:08 cheryloakes wow2 -> I believe 9th grade is what the school started with, and builds each year
21:26:09 vinniev -> the concept of schedule and time needs to be dealt with. w2.0 does not work well with 40-50 minute blocks
21:26:13 sendkathy -> how many kids in the school?
21:26:26 sendkathy -> how many teachers?
21:26:37 Vicki Davis -> I use it in my 50minute classes but OFTEN have projects that are 2-3 days in length -- very often.
21:26:42 John_Pederson -> Chris...can you talk about what training you gave your teachers up front with Moodle?
21:26:58 Doug -> too true re ubiquity/technology Chris, I love the analogy with oxygen
21:26:58 JenniferW -> so Chris --- where are the applications for your school -- for teaching???
21:27:33 Vicki Davis -> I love the oxygen analogy also -- I'm going to use that one!@
21:27:39 sendkathy -> what is the name of the school? web address?
21:27:41 SharonP -> moodle is just awesome
21:27:43 SharonP -> I love it
21:27:45 JenniferW -> just a sec
21:27:50 vinniev -> but if you let students and teachers group around common interests and passions, 50 minutes is not enought time to get flow
21:28:06 JenniferW -> http://www.practicaltheory.org/serendipity/
21:28:07 vinniev -> Moodle Rocks! I have been using and promoting for 3yrs
21:28:12 Vicki Davis -> You're right -- I was trying to say that but it can be done within any framerwork if you have to.
21:28:18 Vicki Davis -> framework.
21:28:21 JenniferW -> http://www.scienceleadership.org/
21:28:26 JenniferW -> that is the link to the school -- http://www.scienceleadership.org/
21:28:26 SharonP -> would be interested in if you use your own server or third party for moodle
21:28:30 vinniev -> Of course. It is what we have to deal with as well
21:28:36 SteveHargadon -> (shameless plug) - We are holding open workshops at Chris' school in Philly next week.  A two-day on Moodle with Michelle Moore instructing, and a two-day Web 2.0 with Will Richardson.  http://edtechlive.wikispaces.com/workshops
21:28:56 Vicki Davis -> Plug away, Steve, it is a great opportunity!
21:28:59 JenniferW -> sighs -- wish I could be there
21:29:03 ChrisL -> Oh... and Arvind Grover came down and worked with for a day... and Will came down and worked with us too. They helped. :)
21:29:20 Vicki Davis -> My students interact over the summer in all my spaces.
21:29:28 Vicki Davis -> They edit the wiki in the summer.
21:29:29 Jeanne S -> Hello everybody!
21:29:31 SharonP -> links are being posted on the WOW2 chat wiki - http://womenofwebchats.wikispaces.com/20070123
21:29:42 cheryloakes wow2 -> Hi Jeanne, welcome
21:29:43 Vicki Davis -> Hello Jeanne!
21:29:54 Vicki Davis -> Tried to skype you earlier.
21:29:56 cheryloakes wow2 -> hi doug, \
21:30:03 Jeanne S -> I just got home
21:30:12 JenniferW -> here is the link to staff at Chris Lehmann's school -- http://www.scienceleadership.org/staff.php
21:30:12 Vicki Davis -> Wow!  We need a new Operating system!
21:30:16 laurabfogle -> I love the idea of teachers learning technology (Moodle) in a context.  That is what we want our teachers to be doing with kids.  Great modeling.
21:30:19 Jeanne S -> Shopping with all three kids...Yuck@
21:30:30 sendkathy -> I can't tell from the site the size etc.  Is there a site other than the moodle?
21:30:46 sendkathy -> oh i see it
21:31:10 Vicki Davis -> I think when teachers have a reason to use technology like Chris' used moodle the learning curve is much faster!
21:31:23 JenniferW -> here are the links to Will's presentations -- http://weblogg-ed.com/workshops
21:31:28 John_Pederson -> very true
21:31:35 vinniev -> One of the neat projects I am involved in is a parent ed class using moodle, www.nsparented.org
21:32:12 cheryloakes wow2 -> it is going to be a forerunner vinny
21:32:31 charbeck1 -> So much fear out there..... many just do not get it
21:32:47 charbeck1 -> we just have to keep on trying.
21:32:50 sroseman -> school infrastructure needs changing
21:33:05 Vicki Davis -> Mindsets and the way we do business.
21:33:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> susan, that is for sure, we keep trying
21:33:08 vinniev -> I hope so, although i had an interesting conversation with our assistant head, responsible for finance.
21:33:17 Vicki Davis -> Finance has a lot to do with it.
21:33:48 charbeck1 -> my old lab sent me over the edge today.
21:34:05 vinniev -> they are looking at my class as an example of something we may want to use as a new revenue stream. yuck
21:34:06 charbeck1 -> ChrisL your typing is getting quite loud;-)
21:34:10 cheryloakes wow2 -> sorry about that chris, that can make or break your day
21:34:26 Vicki Davis -> It is tough when you have to raise your own money.
21:34:39 cheryloakes wow2 -> vinnie do you mean charge parents for the class
21:34:45 charbeck1 -> Try again tomorrow.  This is why you ask the kids to do it at home.... and they do it!!!
21:34:51 sendkathy -> so how are your teachers individualizing their approach or are they using the same approach
21:34:57 vinniev -> yes. I am hoping to change their mindset
21:35:07 JenniferW -> here is the moodle for Chris Lehmann's School -- http://www.scienceleadership.org/moodle/
21:35:13 cheryloakes wow2 -> tell them about the k12 online
21:35:15 Durff -> in the summer, too, Vickie? I'm getting sooooo much blogging and comments now......
21:35:18 sendkathy -> who are these teachers and what makes them tick?
21:35:21 JenniferW -> Or -- the Science Leadership Academy -- http://www.scienceleadership.org/moodle/
21:35:35 Vicki Davis -> Yes, my students participate in the summer -- I move over to think.com usually in the summers for the protection.
21:35:48 vinniev -> I have told them about k12, which was the inspiration for this project
21:35:51 cheryloakes wow2 -> I use think.com too Vicki
21:35:53 Durff -> I use Warlick's
21:35:59 sendkathy -> I had a problem with think.com and they never responded to my email
21:36:04 Vicki Davis -> I use classblogmeister in the school year.
21:36:07 cheryloakes wow2 -> I use classblogmeister too Durff
21:36:20 Durff -> look us over
21:36:22 JenniferW -> how do people decide to come to your school??  and how if this affecting the "traditional" schooling system??
21:36:27 Durff -> Ms. Durff in MS
21:36:33 Durff -> oh md
21:36:35 Durff -> sorry
21:36:56 sendkathy -> good question
21:37:08 sendkathy -> sure
21:37:21 Vicki Davis -> In order for change to happen we must be willing to change!
21:37:27 SimonSays -> Vickie, Durff, Class Blogmeister, do you use it for safety/privacy concerns?
21:37:45 Durff -> some students come to our school when they get kicked out of public school
21:38:06 Durff -> I use it because it is easy
21:38:09 jasmine thomas -> -EVO 2007: hi
21:38:12 Vicki Davis -> Yes, but I also use wikispaces and blogger -- it is a strategy of progressing in internet freedoms.
21:38:19 Vicki Davis -> more responsibility as they get older.
21:38:28 vinniev -> We use blogmeister, especially in our elementary and middle school, not for safety, but to teach them the rules of the road. Teachers can mentor and filter
21:38:28 jasmine thomas -> hello everyone
21:38:29 SimonSays -> ah
21:38:34 Maria -> -EVO 2007: hi
21:38:35 Durff -> my HS students won't blog
21:38:44 Vicki Davis -> We teach the rules of the road and then we move ahead.
21:38:52 Willrich -> Durff...why not?
21:38:53 Vicki Davis -> I don't give them a choice but they get used to it.
21:38:54 vinniev -> so do we
21:38:56 ChrisL -> Hey folks... Jasmine is an SLA student.
21:39:03 Durff -> 7th grade loves it
21:39:24 cheryloakes wow2 -> hello Jasmine, glad you are here
21:39:32 jasmine thomas -> thank you I am glad to be here
21:39:35 Vicki Davis -> Hello Jasmine!
21:39:39 jasmine thomas -> hi
21:39:41 ChrisL -> So someone tell Jasmin how to listen to the stream... and she can tell you all if I'm making this stuff up. :)
21:39:46 Durff -> what is SLA?
21:39:55 charbeck1 -> When the blog assignments ar meaningful they will complete them.  What are you asking them to do Durff
21:40:11 sendkathy -> I wrote a blog called, Have You Integrated Technology Today?, I think the classroom is just about the only place that it isn't be used regularly
21:40:17 Durff -> Just comment
21:40:20 jasmine thomas -> SLA is a school where we take the 5 core values of science and apply them in each subject
21:40:32 vinniev -> sendkathy, I loved that post
21:40:33 sendkathy -> They are learning more outside the classroom and we are losing them in a way
21:40:38 sendkathy -> thanks
21:41:04 JenniferW -> Kathy -- please drop the link in the chatroom!!!
21:41:05 Durff -> I think the older kids have Senoritis...
21:41:07 sendkathy -> We will soon have more going on in the car than the classroom
21:41:11 JenniferW -> to your post
21:41:11 ChrisL -> Durff -- SLA is Science Leadership Academy -- http://www.scienceleadership.org
21:41:17 charbeck1 -> Create a blog for them to start doing Scribe posts... creative writing or anything they want to do.  Get their feet wet.  Then they will come back to the well over and over again.
21:41:22 Durff -> oh in Philly
21:41:28 ChrisL -> that's us. :)
21:41:44 sendkathy -> Mrs Durff are you going to the Philly conference?
21:41:55 ChrisL -> can someone tell Jasmin how to listen to what we're talking about?
21:41:57 Durff -> Daily Scribe - I do that now in 7th
21:42:07 Durff -> no not Philly
21:42:07 JenniferW -> did you mention how the neighboring schools are handling your school??  are they bothered??  are they changing??
21:42:07 jasmine thomas -> that would be helpful
21:42:15 Durff -> but the one in Hershey
21:42:20 sendkathy -> NECC in Atlanta?
21:42:25 Durff -> I was born in Philly
21:42:26 sendkathy -> oh
21:42:31 charbeck1 -> Another option is to find another school and start having interaction.  the synergy that happens when they see other kids doing what they are doing will get the ball rolling.Durff
21:42:36 sendkathy -> My sister and brother live there
21:42:37 ChrisL -> Jasmin -- I think if you click "Channel 1" you can hear us.
21:42:55 jasmine thomas -> alright
21:43:04 Durff -> good idea!
21:43:07 cheryloakes wow2 -> it is called edtech talk A
21:43:09 Doug -> EdTechTalkA, click on the speaker icon to listen to the stream
21:43:14 Durff -> another school that is
21:43:42 sendkathy -> yes its all in social networking
21:44:04 charbeck1 -> I like the idea of creating a collaberative story.  You write one paragraph and another writes another and you see how long the story can go on....
21:44:18 charbeck1 -> Goiogle docs could be used for this too
21:44:21 Durff -> hmmmm
21:44:24 SharonP -> yes Chris
21:44:24 cheryloakes wow2 -> that is a great idea chris
21:44:38 SharonP -> am doing something like that with my students and two other classes elsewhere in the world
21:44:40 SharonP -> very cool stuf
21:44:52 charbeck1 -> Wes fryers Bernie Dodge pod cast has more great ideas
21:44:56 sendkathy -> I'm currently reading wikinomics http://www.wikinomics.com/ It's all about how this social networking has changed and will continue to mold commerce.  Yes, I used to be in the real working world before teaching!
21:45:26 Durff -> we all have global audiences!
21:45:34 vinniev -> is wikinomics any good? I have it tagged
21:45:51 sendkathy -> so far it's very well written, but caution, it's very business like
21:46:00 charbeck1 -> Durff show them the audience they have when they blog It can be a great motivator too
21:46:10 charbeck1 -> Cluster matps etal
21:46:12 sendkathy -> The case studies are very intersting
21:46:22 vinniev -> good night all. What a great conversation, but I have to walk the dog, format report cards for our teachers so that they can begin their report cards, and post items for my parent classes
21:46:33 vinniev -> I will then pick it up
21:46:42 sendkathy -> I think it will greatly impact what businesses want from students coming out of school
21:46:43 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks for coming vinnie
21:46:47 JenniferW -> you will be missed vinnie -- but go --  and see you next week!!!
21:46:51 Vicki Davis -> Night Vinnie!  Talk to you soon!
21:48:03 JenniferW -> if you have your ??? for Will or Chris or Steve -- please post them NOW!!!  Thanks
21:48:18 Durff -> show them the audience...how?
21:48:23 ChrisL -> And hey, if you want to know what it's like to be a student in School 2.0 -- ask Jasmine! :)
21:48:27 Durff -> counters?
21:49:02 JenniferW -> Chris -- so you are private or magnet school??  do you receive state funding??
21:49:13 ChrisL -> Magnet school... public
21:49:20 JenniferW -> we are NOT the norm of users of Tech
21:49:31 JenniferW -> but we are the "lewis and clark"
21:49:32 ChrisL -> We're funded like any usual Philly school
21:49:39 Durff -> kids know hoe to use phone, iPods, and play games
21:50:04 sendkathy -> I think we need to foster curiosity
21:50:17 sendkathy -> teachers need to want to learn intrinsically
21:50:47 Durff -> we have a lot of preconceived notions with which to contend....
21:50:57 JenniferW -> I would love to talk with you Chris, later on how this all came about.  I am sorry that I just heard about it.  It sounds so exciting.  You must have had to jump through many hoops.
21:51:05 sendkathy -> they need to want to be part of the social network and then training will be hardly needed
21:51:30 sendkathy -> How can we get the teachers to seek to improve themselves by becoming explorers?
21:51:52 JenniferW -> LOL -- applications for Chris' school will be available later for teaching positions!!  :)
21:52:02 jasmine thomas -> lol
21:52:05 Durff -> I do Training Tuesdays with faculty
21:52:13 JenniferW -> LOL -- google might NOT be the #1 place to work
21:52:31 Durff -> you all hurting for faculty?
21:52:33 Jeanne S -> I am so glad that somebody understands the work load of teachers!!!!!
21:52:40 sendkathy -> I know!
21:52:44 JenniferW -> Lisa, I don't think so.
21:52:50 JenniferW -> He has to be turning apps away --
21:52:53 ChrisL -> Durff -- no, but we're about to hire our Year Two faculty.
21:52:57 Vicki Davis -> The workload of GOODteachers.  There are always the solitaire jockeys who make technology use look bad.
21:52:58 JenniferW -> but it sounds like such an admin appreciated staff
21:53:13 ChrisL -> my teachers work *HARD*.
21:53:20 ChrisL -> This really is tough stuff.
21:53:20 JenniferW -> but they are appreciated
21:53:21 jasmine thomas -> very hard!
21:53:22 Durff -> Somebody asked me today whn my free time was.....I said WHAT free time?
21:53:32 Vicki Davis -> I don't have ANY free time.
21:53:35 Doug -> indeed, the inventiveness and creativity takes time--well done
21:53:41 sendkathy -> It's gotta be the way new teachers are taught in college
21:53:49 Vicki Davis -> And we're up late with this -- we're still learning! 
21:53:55 sendkathy -> they can't just take one tech class and make a few webquests
21:54:02 SteveHargadon -> Those of you loving Chris right now--I did an hourlong interview with him recently that's up at edtechlive.com
21:54:03 Vicki Davis -> Interestingly many teachers couldn't listen to this at school or skype at school.
21:54:04 Willrich -> I agree kathy
21:54:06 JenniferW -> Any other ???? for Will, Steve, or Chris???
21:54:08 cheryloakes wow2 -> teacher education, pre service needs to catch up
21:54:18 ChrisL -> cheryl -- agreed.
21:54:42 sendkathy -> The teachers who teach teachers are not modelling what we need
21:54:53 Vicki Davis -> My best teachers ARE teachers who blog!
21:55:12 cheryloakes wow2 -> that sounds like a tee shirt vicki,
21:55:13 Durff -> Chris? You have summer school?
21:55:23 sendkathy -> If only I could get my principal to give incentives for blogging etc
21:55:44 Vicki Davis -> So many schools don't let their teachers blog at school!
21:55:49 JenniferW -> What can you do in your school NOW that will move your forward?????
21:56:06 JenniferW -> find those who support what you do -- and make a support team
21:56:06 sendkathy -> Good question
21:56:17 sendkathy -> they are too busy!
21:56:23 Durff -> I just started podcasting with kids
21:56:27 Durff -> primary
21:56:31 sendkathy -> its crazy but I can't even meet with them
21:56:31 Vicki Davis -> My support team is all of you!
21:56:33 JenniferW -> Kathy -- you are doing that with OP4T --
21:56:38 Jeanne S -> There are sites that aren't blocked....wikispaces is blocked, pbwiki isn't....blogger is blockec, edublogs isn
21:56:44 Jeanne S -> isn't
21:56:47 Vicki Davis -> I feel so encouraged on Wednesday mornings because I know I'm not alone -- I'm not an island any more.
21:56:49 JenniferW -> sometimes YOUR collaboration MIGHT not be within your own school
21:56:58 SimonSays -> For someone who is in a school the Rip van Winkle would love, how should I start to use/implement Web 2.0?
21:57:02 Jeanne S -> Maybe not even in your own country!
21:57:05 JenniferW -> YUP
21:57:10 JenniferW -> NOTHING is your limit
21:57:12 cheryloakes wow2 -> vicki absolutely, Wed. morn. I am energized
21:57:15 ChrisL -> Durff -- we do a summer institute w/ our kids
21:57:16 sendkathy -> I have tried to wiki our informal collaboration but half the group ignores it
21:57:27 sendkathy -> they just don't even weant to hear about it
21:57:27 JenniferW -> you can be discouraged, you can be blocked
21:57:30 ChrisL -> I think Wiki is a HARD thing to start with.
21:57:31 Durff -> Can I apply?
21:57:33 Doug -> I just started a new job in the corporate world, and we have a wiki that's relatively new and being used -- we're coming up with the Frequently Asked Questions as we go
21:57:33 JenniferW -> but you can still collaborate
21:57:41 JenniferW -> even if you have to do it AWAY from school
21:57:48 JenniferW -> LOL -- in my humble opinion
21:57:49 sendkathy -> yes but PB now has real text editing instead of the htm
21:57:54 Doug -> but like Kathy's it's not being used a who lot, that I can see
21:57:58 Vicki Davis -> As long as they don't block our brains, we are free!
21:58:01 Maria -> I'm enjoying the collaboration with a teacher several hours away from me - it's better than anything that could happen with teachers in my school
21:58:04 sroseman -> do it all at home
21:58:10 sendkathy -> Good one Vicki!
21:58:16 JenniferW -> Maria -- please drop the link for your project you are hosting right now
21:58:17 Maria -> We're even joking about team teaching
21:58:18 Doug -> many aren't prepared to "learn in public" even in a walled garden
21:58:23 Vicki Davis -> I feel a new blog post going on -- the undemocratic democracy -- I control my own filter.
21:58:28 Vicki Davis -> But many don't.
21:58:32 charbeck1 -> Collaberation is where it is at.  The single largest positive of 20.
21:58:35 Durff -> I'm lucky, these things are not blocked
21:58:47 Vicki Davis -> Mine aren't blocked either.
21:58:50 charbeck1 -> are you there
21:58:52 sendkathy -> People are shy and don't want to expose their weakness or lack of writing talent
21:59:14 Vicki Davis -> Collaboration is so important!!
21:59:15 alicebarr -> Model our learning!
21:59:22 ChrisL -> Jasmine -- you still here?
21:59:28 Maria -> worldhug2007.blogspot.com
21:59:31 JenniferW -> Vicki -- remember though that your position is NOT the norm.  Many wish that they DID have their own filter
21:59:38 Vicki Davis -> It is so exciting!  My student Casey is writing an article for Coming of Age with her partner in flat classroom cannelle.
21:59:39 Durff -> we have no student computers in the classroom
21:59:41 JenniferW -> I am seeing that now at my school
21:59:44 SharonP -> I have been just SOLD on the power of collaboration over the last few years
21:59:50 JenniferW -> others are determining the limits of classrooms
21:59:52 Vicki Davis -> Hey, Craig in Greece uses cell phones!
21:59:57 Vicki Davis -> You can google from a cell.
21:59:59 JenniferW -> and THAT is waht I am learning to deal with -- and CONQUER
22:00:17 Durff -> you can do it as hw
22:00:21 JenniferW -> its been interesting to see the filters from the other side
22:00:41 Maria -> I hope folks will want to participate in this blogging through art project
22:00:49 dufourc -> Sharen, I'm listening in from Montreal, and I wonder at which school you teach.
22:00:59 Durff -> Chris - any opewnings for this summer?
22:01:04 SharonP -> I won't publish a thing (except maybe a blog post) without putting it past my trusted editors - Google docs is just so great for that!
22:01:09 JenniferW -> Sharon -- I had 39,000 students involved in collaboration last year -- K to 6 -- who will be ready to fly when they get to high school
22:01:26 SharonP -> dufourc - Hi - welcome - I teach at Lower Canada College
22:01:35 ChrisL -> Durff -- got openings for next year! :)
22:01:40 Durff -> Google Docs is great!
22:01:59 Durff -> but I like where I teach....
22:02:03 Vicki Davis -> My two students are using google docs are collaborate for their COA article!
22:02:16 Durff -> w just don't have summer school
22:02:18 sendkathy -> I loved Kindred! SCiFi
22:02:48 SharonP -> I just have to ask Steve H - HOW did you get to interview JSB???
22:02:50 sroseman -> dufourc, I am in Ottawa, where do you teach in Montreal?
22:03:12 sendkathy -> Great job Cheryl and ladies
22:03:14 charbeck1 -> POST SHOW!!!
22:03:15 Durff -> clap,, clap
22:03:17 sendkathy -> Oh and gents
22:03:21 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks all, this is a great show
22:03:21 Vicki Davis -> POST SHOW!
22:03:25 Doug -> excellent show
22:03:26 Vicki Davis -> PARTY!
22:03:27 CathyE -> Excellent!
22:03:30 ChrisL -> thanks for having us!
22:03:31 nzchrissy -> great show
22:03:31 sendkathy -> food?
22:03:32 JenniferW -> I live for post show!!
22:03:33 sroseman -> Outstanding
22:03:36 jasmine thomas -> thank you
22:03:41 JenniferW -> virtual food being passed around
22:03:44 dufourc -> I work with an organisation called LEARN which works with teachers to help implement our curriculum through technology
22:03:44 Vicki Davis -> As always, the chat room has been incredible tonight!
22:03:45 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks all, it was great collaboration
22:03:46 sendkathy -> yum
22:03:49 Durff -> I'm taking webcastacademu=y now
22:03:54 SharonP -> Learn Quebec..... ah yes
22:03:57 Durff -> and flunking out I think
22:04:04 SharonP -> how did you hear about WOW2??
22:04:05 cheryloakes wow2 -> good luck durff
22:04:11 dufourc -> yep, learn québec. 
22:04:14 cheryloakes wow2 -> let me know if I can help
22:04:16 Durff -> thank you cheryl
22:04:24 sendkathy -> no barbara you are a pioneer who doesn't give up!
22:04:31 dufourc -> We work with LCC
22:04:34 SharonP -> yes
22:04:38 Durff -> I need aq Skypecast to recordxc this week
22:04:47 sendkathy -> Sharon P loved your audio intro
22:04:48 SharonP -> we are starting a partnership for the virtual school next year
22:05:04 dufourc -> Yes, I'm working in that gang
22:05:05 sendkathy -> on webcastacademy that is
22:05:07 cheryloakes wow2 -> tell us a time and some will show up Durff
22:05:08 SharonP -> Kathy, you mean for webcast academy?
22:05:14 Durff -> virtual scool - online?
22:05:15 JenniferW -> we will have WIll, Chris, and Steve back again
22:05:23 SharonP -> yes a virtual school online
22:05:24 sendkathy -> yes
22:05:32 Durff -> I don't have a time
22:05:33 SharonP -> the entire Quebec high school curric
22:05:44 sendkathy -> that was you wasn't it?
22:05:56 SharonP -> with the funky music?
22:06:03 sendkathy -> LOL yes
22:06:11 Vicki Davis -> This has been a great show!
22:06:17 Durff -> my assignment was record a Skypecast and it was broken Sun night
22:06:18 jasmine thomas -> bye everyone
22:06:22 SharonP -> but dufourc - how did you hear about WOW2??
22:06:24 Vicki Davis -> Bye Jasmine!
22:06:25 sendkathy -> But really, you put in a lot of effort and content
22:06:31 charbeck1 -> Thanks for being here Jasmine
22:06:32 SharonP -> thank you
22:06:46 SharonP -> and then I was a loser and didn't export it correctly....
22:06:50 dufourc -> Through the Blogs and our developping network of interesetd people.
22:06:55 jasmine thomas -> you are very welcome it was very interesting to listen to everyones view
22:06:56 SharonP -> felt like I failed my first webcast academy homework
22:07:01 sendkathy -> no , way!
22:07:13 SharonP -> ahhhh, thank you dufourc - maybe we will meet sometime
22:07:21 dufourc -> Hope so!
22:07:26 cheryloakes wow2 -> sharon that would be your intro, i bet it was great
22:07:34 Durff -> I at least passed the first assignment
22:07:35 SharonP -> yes, would you believe, Kathy, that the legendary Terry Freedman saved the day?
22:07:54 sendkathy -> That's great!
22:08:24 CathyE -> Hate to leave- but have an early day- thank you!
22:08:27 sendkathy -> I have to go, boo hoo, see you all next week! TTFN
22:08:28 SharonP -> yup, he made me send the file over skype and he fixed it
22:08:36 Durff -> bye Cathy
22:08:38 cheryloakes wow2 -> bye cathye, have a good day
22:08:44 SharonP -> so I confessed to Jeff that I had help with my homework....lol
22:08:46 sendkathy -> thanks bye
22:08:54 dufourc -> Thank you for a great cast.
22:09:05 Durff -> but you didn't have to Sharon
22:09:09 SharonP -> please come again dufourc
22:09:18 sroseman -> good grief
22:09:22 Doug -> that's hilarious re wicca
22:09:28 Durff -> I heard that too Vickie
22:09:29 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks to all for being here tonight
22:09:49 Durff -> Wikipedia to them = the Wicca religion
22:09:57 Durff -> and I'm in MD
22:09:58 cheryloakes wow2 -> a little scary
22:10:02 Vicki Davis -> They think it is WICCA Pedia -- not WIKI pedia.
22:10:13 Durff -> yes, yes
22:10:20 Vicki Davis -> Anyone who knows me laughs when they accuse me of that.  I'm a pretty straight arrow.
22:10:20 sroseman -> Wicked Pedia
22:10:27 Durff -> until we educate them
22:10:41 Vicki Davis -> I used youtube for SAT review -- they have the greatest exponent review aroound on there!
22:10:45 Durff -> and me too
22:11:12 Durff -> Michael Card is on Youtube
22:11:40 Durff -> I had to get Flash downloaded
22:11:52 Durff -> and ActiveX
22:12:15 Durff -> he's right - ethics!
22:12:28 Vicki Davis -> Teach students don't try to keep the ignorant.
22:12:36 John_Pederson -> sweet
22:12:51 Durff -> we have to teach critical analysis
22:13:20 Durff -> I'm glad that wasn;t me finding that!
22:13:20 Vicki Davis -> Think about how many views they will get tonight!
22:13:28 Durff -> true
22:14:17 Durff -> isolationism
22:14:21 charbeck1 -> Fear of having to deal with it..... It is already here
22:14:42 Durff -> how can we change it?
22:15:02 sroseman -> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-05-myspace-responsible_x.htm
22:15:44 Durff -> I had one parent ask what blogging has to do with study skills
22:15:56 Durff -> ouch!
22:15:58 cheryloakes wow2 -> writing, writing, writing
22:16:26 Durff -> integration. that's what I emphasize
22:16:48 cheryloakes wow2 -> communication and conversation durff, that is what blogging does, right?
22:16:49 sroseman -> worth reading
22:16:53 Durff -> and as a resource for studying & collaborating
22:16:55 sroseman -> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/02/MNGG3M4KB31.DTL
22:17:10 Durff -> yes research!
22:17:19 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks for coming, ready to wind down
22:17:46 Vicki Davis -> Goodnight!  Great show!
22:17:50 Durff -> such parents are stuck in the industrial age schools
22:18:03 cheryloakes wow2 -> thanks all
22:18:05 Durff -> we have to love them out to the School  2.0
22:18:08 alicebarr -> PArents are very scared
22:18:11 John_Pederson -> thanks will
22:18:14 Durff -> bye!
22:18:40 alicebarr -> Thanks!
22:18:43 sroseman -> You can teach about myspace without going there with these lessons
22:18:48 Durff -> night, night!
22:18:59 sroseman -> http://www.coe.uh.edu/courses/cuin3111/safety/myspace/activity.htm
22:19:12 Durff -> sroseman - where?
22:19:15 Durff -> oh
22:19:20 John_Pederson -> thanks everybody...great format...great show...i'm out
22:19:38 sroseman -> check the example lessons
22:19:46 cheryloakes wow2 -> bye all
22:19:51 sroseman -> http://www.coe.uh.edu/courses/cuin3111/safety/myspace/activity.htm
22:20:11 nzchrissy -> Goodbye - great show.
22:20:21 sroseman -> nighty night
22:20:22 cheryloakes wow2 -> bye chrissy, come back
22:20:25 Durff -> thank you!!
22:20:34 nzchrissy -> See you next week
22:20:34 JenniferW -> THANKS TO ALL
22:20:40 JenniferW -> hope to see you next week!!!!
22:21:45 sroseman -> We will be in South America!!
22:22:22 Doug -> take care all