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Chat Log for EdTechWeekly#59
January 6, 2008
 

18:46:52  jomcleay ->  Hello all
18:47:01  JohnS ->  Hey Jo
18:47:04  alexr ->  Hi Jo.
18:47:25  alexr ->  Hi Dave!
18:47:31  dave ->  yo yo
18:47:51  JenM ->  Hello!
18:47:56  alexr ->  I hear you!
18:48:04  alexr ->  We want red5 updates!!!
18:48:10  JenM ->  we were being goofy! I didn't know we were streaming :)
18:48:43  jeff ->  http://www.worldbridges.net/todo
18:49:06  alexr ->  Kids taking photos with my camera upstairs and I can see them being downloaded on my eye fi manager.  So silly.
18:49:13  alexr ->  Favicon is very nice.
18:49:18  JenM ->  HI!!!! JWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
18:49:27  JenW ->  Hi JenMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
18:49:37  jomcleay ->  hi JenW
18:50:00  JenW ->  Hi Jo
18:50:06  JenW ->  hello tomorrow??  LOL
18:50:24  jomcleay ->  Yep
18:51:19  JenW ->  I sooooo need to hear voices!!! 
18:51:41  jeff ->  you need to go to http://edtechtalk.com/live and play the Ustream
18:51:49  jomcleay ->  lol John S
18:52:07  JenW ->  THANK YOU
18:52:10  JenW ->  voices!!!!
18:52:12  MizMercer ->  Oy, that was loud
18:52:20  JenW ->  so tired of just reading text
18:52:29  MizMercer ->  My headphones feed loud
18:52:35  jomcleay ->  No it is a bit quiet now
18:52:36  MizMercer ->  It's even
18:52:37  JenW ->  Jen is loud -- Jeff is not loud enough
18:52:44  MizMercer ->  I can hear everyone at about the same level
18:53:27  JenW ->  I still can't believe you called her -- during a power outage -- and expected her to be a part. 
18:53:38  JenW ->  Jen is SOOO dedicated
18:53:40  MizMercer ->  Hey, a link I submitted yesterday didn't show up:
18:53:41  MizMercer ->  http://larryferlazzo.edublogs.org/2008/01/04/dont-forget-the-next-ellesl...
18:54:09  JenW ->  Jeff is better now -- as is Jen
18:54:16  MizMercer ->  I don't mind if you didn't want to include, BUT I know sometimes stuff doesn't "show up" I think it might have to do with
18:54:22  MizMercer ->  bookmarking in diigo?
18:54:23  jomcleay ->  Hi Doug
18:54:29  ds ->  Hi all
18:54:29  MizMercer ->  Not under water
18:54:30  JenW ->  becuase of the FAKE storm that never hit
18:54:39  MizMercer ->  No!
18:54:43  JenW ->  let me go outside and look
18:54:48  MizMercer ->  Neighbor has tree in this bedroom
18:55:05  MizMercer ->  AND power was off for some until last night starting Friday
18:55:06  JenW ->  all is fine here -- very boring
18:55:14  JenM ->  Happy New Year to all!!!!
18:55:15  MizMercer ->  Larry Ferlazzo had no power for 36 hours
18:55:17  jomcleay ->  JenW be grateful
18:55:19  ds ->  boring is good re weather
18:55:26  JenW ->  sighs -- still hoping for SNOW
18:55:27  JenW ->  :)
18:55:40  ds ->  careful what you wish for ;)
18:55:58  MizMercer ->  So Dave, did you get my link for Larry Ferlazzo?
18:56:06  JenW ->  so if I lived in snow -- would I really not like it as much?  is that true??
18:56:16  Cathy E ->  66 f here today in NC
18:56:32  MizMercer ->  Hmmm
18:56:36  JenM ->  Cathy ... you can get a tan tomorrow :)
18:56:39  dave ->  MizMercer?
18:56:44  MizMercer ->  I put it on ETT calendar on gmail
18:56:48  MizMercer ->  Today
18:57:14  jomcleay ->  Hi Alec
18:57:19  courosa ->  hey jo
18:57:40  Cathy E ->  Dave makes me laugh
18:57:56  Gary ->  366- did have to pick a leap year.
18:58:02  Cathy E ->  We love ya Dave
18:58:05  courosa ->  hey all
18:58:16  JenW ->  does it have to be unique or can it be an outtake from this show??
18:58:29  MizMercer ->  I WANT GUIDELINES!
18:58:49  MizMercer ->  I have put ItsE! on google calendar but it's just on mine
18:58:52  sroseman ->  greetings everyone
18:59:08  jomcleay ->  Hello Sue
18:59:17  MizMercer ->  MY LIFE!
18:59:26  sroseman ->  Hi jomcleay
18:59:37  Cathy E ->  I got it from teacher tube
18:59:43  Cathy E ->  that is not blocked
18:59:54  Gary ->  You are welcome - I was bored.
19:00:02  JenW ->  what are teh sirens for??
19:00:03  Cathy E ->  I got your conversion- then could not get it on MY server
19:00:34  JohnS ->  JenM always gets noise outside her place right around showtime
19:00:44  JenW ->  is JenM -- safe??
19:00:44  courosa ->  i like it, better
19:00:45  MizMercer ->  This seems "just right"
19:00:50  courosa ->  awkward before
19:00:53  MizMercer ->  The text is the right size (big)
19:00:53  JohnS ->  She's fine.
19:01:04  MizMercer ->  The audio is small which is nice
19:01:07  JackieB ->  Huh. I keep losing sound.
19:01:11  ds ->  like the new look
19:01:12  jomcleay ->  Hello Durff
19:01:17  MizMercer ->  I have SERIOUS phleghm issues. Had cold this week
19:01:25  MizMercer ->  I wasn't worried, lol
19:01:34  MizMercer ->  I lived in teh hood
19:01:37  JenW ->  I was lighting a candle  LOLOL  --- just kidding
19:01:38  MizMercer ->  I still do sorta
19:01:45  courosa ->  i think commas are underused, not?
19:01:51  dave ->  ,,,,
19:01:51  JenW ->  I thought it was a WEATHER siren
19:02:07  MizMercer ->  I'm getting that underwater feeling, that says, "You may be getting bronchitis"
19:02:16  Jason Neiffer ->  what time does the show start?
19:02:18  sharonp ->  is there a stream tonight?
19:02:27  jomcleay ->  HNY
19:02:32  JohnS ->  Jason: right now
19:02:33  courosa ->  hi sharon
19:02:36  Cathy E ->  http://www.edtechtalk.com/studio
19:02:40  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Good day Jo.
19:02:47  JenW ->  new format -- AGAIN??
19:02:54  MizMercer ->  JW AMEN!
19:02:54  jomcleay ->  Hello Cheryl
19:03:02  sharonp ->  Hi Jo, Alec, Cheryl, Sue - quite a crowd tonight!
19:03:13  jomcleay ->  This is great!
19:03:18  MizMercer ->  Yep
19:03:21  courosa ->  almost like our IRC chat last night. :-)
19:03:22  JenW ->  ohhh -- rapid fire!!!   Putting on my seatbelt--- gonna be a great ride tonight
19:03:28  sroseman ->  hello everyone, including the tired skier
19:03:28  MizMercer ->  IRC?
19:03:33  MizMercer ->  Isn't that ancient?
19:03:39  jeff ->  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guerrilla_Warfare_and_the_OLPC Guerrilla Warfare and the OLPC - OLPC
19:03:41  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Hi SharonP, Alec, Sue, Dave, JEnM, Jeff,Durff, Gary, JackieB Jason, jcc, YIKES
19:03:42  MizMercer ->  I didn't know you could still do that?
19:03:46  courosa ->  Jepsen and Intel ... will be creating a new XO-buster.
19:03:49  jomcleay ->  As ancient as yesterday Alice
19:03:57  MizMercer ->  Dang!
19:03:59  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Miz mercer, mjmonty, HI SARAH, Steve
19:04:04  MizMercer ->  I didn't know it was still up!
19:04:11  Sarah S ->  Hey there Cheryl!
19:04:13  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Hi Wendy, and all in chat room
19:04:29  Gary ->  Some of the reasons given for not using it are compelling.
19:04:46  Durff ->  hi cheryl - i was eating enchiladas - sorry
19:05:05  Durff ->  hi jess
19:05:14  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  oky, Durff, no prob.
19:05:15  jessmc ->  hi there
19:05:20  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Hi Jessc
19:05:21  courosa ->  reminds me of the water buffalo video ... we need to think about responsible global citizenship ... see Star Trek.
19:05:41  Durff ->  is guerrilla warfare fighting animals?
19:05:42  sharonp ->  however, at least the issue is raised
19:05:46  Wendy ->  Hi all.  I had to step away to grab some headphones.
19:05:55  JackieB ->  I keep losing audio. Be back in  bit.
19:05:55  MizMercer ->  Sound dropped a bit
19:06:12  Wendy ->  I'm losing audio, too.  hmmm
19:06:24  jomcleay ->  Got good audio now
19:06:40  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  If I lose audio is it ustream audio ?
19:06:52  dave ->  http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/24/laptop.village.ap/index.htm...
19:06:54  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  looks like edtechA and B not streaming?
19:06:56  MizMercer ->  Cultural imperialism? Out of persia my dear
19:07:02  Durff ->  hi mhobkirk
19:07:02  ds ->  sounds like "stream buffering" to me
19:07:09  Durff ->  hi fiona
19:07:11  jomcleay ->  Hi Fiona B
19:07:12  mhobkirk ->  Grettings
19:07:13  ds ->  better now, more steady
19:07:16  mhobkirk ->  greetings
19:07:17  sharonp ->  Cheryl - we are in the ETT studio
19:07:17  fiona_banjer ->  Hi
19:07:19  JenM ->  OLPC CTO Leaves: http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&arti...
19:07:32  MizMercer ->  But a computer to learn chess, hmmm
19:07:37  mhobkirk ->  need to switch to firefox, brb
19:07:37  Durff ->  coffee refill....
19:07:37  courosa ->  When the first word from an African child is "Google" we should be disturbed, not please. let's be critical, is this progress? tech colonialism? What is progress?
19:07:48  courosa ->  Greed!
19:08:23  jepcke ->  Where are their links to be found? "In our links section..."
19:08:31  Gary ->  Chicago economics?
19:08:33  fiona_banjer ->  It's like computers being put into classrooms with teachers who don't understand what they can do.
19:08:36  dave ->  http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080106
19:08:45  jepcke ->  Thnx Dave
19:08:47  MizMercer ->  I say do it with cell phones
19:08:54  datruss ->  DaveT
19:09:12  Durff ->  welcome back
19:09:37  MizMercer ->  Isn't this the crux of the issue with OLPC? It's got some WONDERFUL design elements, but the implementation plan sucks.
19:09:52  Durff ->  hi thespian
19:10:03  datruss ->  When does it start? Sound? (forgive the newbie)
19:10:05  MizMercer ->  Would be GREAT!
19:10:12  Gary ->  But "shock therapy" econimics demands that it be commercialized.
19:10:15  Durff ->  i would have to agree with dave - they do have a responsibility
19:10:20  Cathy E ->  audio is bumpy, is it just me?
19:10:23  JenM ->  Scoble Scuffle: http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9839474-36.html?tag=nefd.top
19:10:27  JenW ->  did I lose sound??
19:10:28  Sarah S ->  Is anyone else getting audio drop for 5-10 sec intervals?
19:10:34  fiona_banjer ->  SOund is jumpy for me too.
19:10:35  JenW ->  yes,
19:10:35  MizMercer ->   I am losing sound
19:10:37  jessmc ->  my sound coming and going
19:10:38  Durff ->  no Cathy - audio is in and out
19:10:42  jessmc ->  and a bit jumpy
19:10:52  mjmonty ->  only available via ustream tonite??
19:11:02  Durff ->  yes
19:11:11  mjmonty ->  ahhh...thanx
19:11:21  Cathy E ->  http://www.edtechtalk.com/studio
19:11:22  MizMercer ->  Hey steady sound...
19:11:22  Durff ->  $5
19:11:34  jeff ->  now streaming on ETT A as well
19:11:45  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  thanks Jeff
19:11:53  Durff ->  hi laura
19:12:01  MizMercer ->  Render unto Caesar?
19:12:14  Durff ->  don't choke on it dave
19:12:24  ds ->  lol
19:12:36  Durff ->  hi wendy
19:13:06  Durff ->  hi lornacos
19:13:12  sharonp ->  John was nice - he "needed" to help me out with something
19:13:14  Durff ->  hi alice
19:13:21  alicebarr ->  hi durff
19:13:26  sharonp ->  and that is why he set up a FB account
19:13:28  alicebarr ->  hi tired skiier
19:13:37  jeff ->  http://www.dataportability.org/
19:13:40  MizMercer ->  Hi Lisa
19:13:44  Sarah S ->  Hi there Alice
19:13:45  Durff ->  keep the snow up there
19:13:51  Durff ->  hi alice
19:13:51  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Hi Alice, happy traveler alicebarr
19:13:53  alicebarr ->  Hi Sarah!
19:13:55  MizMercer ->  Oh oh, need another color
19:13:59  alexr ->  Can't listen live and be a good Dad.  Will listen to the podcast.  Take care all.
19:14:11  jomcleay ->  Hello Alice Barr
19:14:12  alicebarr ->  Hi durff
19:14:17  alicebarr ->  Hi Jo
19:14:32  alicebarr ->  Everyone is here! :D
19:14:35  MizMercer ->  Oops, sorry for taking your hellos Alice Barr
19:14:41  Durff ->  hi math teacher
19:14:46  dave ->  http://davecormier.com/edblog/2007/12/30/the-difference-between-free-and...
19:14:51  sharonp ->  cool....all of us creating content... what happens when something goes belly up?
19:14:56  courosa ->  Ning's open source code is available, may be vulnerable, but also, you could technically host it yourself.
19:15:12  alicebarr ->  Oops Sorry I took yours too MizMercer!
19:15:20  JohnS ->   Right, Alec. It's free beer vs free speech
19:15:20  Durff ->  no body besides them?
19:15:27  courosa ->  Question: What are we worried about? What is the worst case scenario?
19:15:37  mjmonty ->  nobody knows how safe ANYTHING is...
19:15:50  MizMercer ->  NEXT...
19:15:55  sharonp ->  thanks Alec.... !
19:15:56  Durff ->  crossing the street isn't safe
19:15:58  courosa ->  the code is available ... Ning is just hosted, you can actually download the source ... yes, it is open source.
19:16:03  mjmonty ->  that is a silly statement to me
19:16:08  jeff ->  http://www.thethinkingstick.com/?p=610  The Thinking Stick » ‘08 The ‘Live Web’
19:16:29  JenW ->  I just don't like that NING would charge me $20 a month to take the ads off
19:16:35  JenW ->  but I am enjoying our conversations on the NING
19:16:50  jomcleay ->  Jeff that is the best thing for me
19:17:01  dave ->  Alec... can you give me a link to opensource ning?
19:17:03  dave ->  can't find
19:17:07  jomcleay ->  that it is live I mean
19:17:27  sharonp ->  It is unfortunately another argument against using web environments for education - as if the IT directors I talk to don't have enough reasons not to use them!
19:17:45  MizMercer ->  I have an interview with Brian Crosby that I'm still trying to pull down.
19:17:52  MizMercer ->  from USTREAM
19:17:57  fiona_banjer ->  We don't have privacy issues, it's blocked anyway LOL
19:17:58  Cathy E ->  And why do all those people on UStream leave their stream running and they are gone and the room is dark
19:18:04  sharonp ->  live videostreaming of students scares me
19:18:37  alicebarr ->  But how else will students learn to ask appropriate questions?
19:18:48  alicebarr ->  How about setting the parameters first?
19:18:59  sharonp ->  live videostreaming of students that is wide open on the net - BIG liability issues
19:19:20  Durff ->  ladies and gentlemen, joyce valenza has entered the room!
19:19:24  joycevalenza ->  we've had author visits where the authors said controversial things.
19:19:29  joycevalenza ->  shucks
19:19:31  sharonp ->  having open student content posted online is one thing - livestreaming is another
19:19:45  joycevalenza ->  Discussion after mitigated the problems
19:19:52  joycevalenza ->  there is never a guarantee
19:19:53  mjmonty ->  are there liability issues of putting kids photos along with first and last names in local paper??
19:20:10  jepcke ->  isn't live streaming a part of the web permissions? Permission to be allowed to photgraph, videotape kids, etc
19:20:18  sharonp ->  LOL
19:20:21  jeff ->  http://davecormier.com/
19:20:23  mjmonty ->  I would submit that there are more risks via local paper publication
19:20:26  sharonp ->  you rotter....
19:20:27  Durff ->  hi techsavvy
19:20:35  TechSavvy ->  Hi
19:20:38  joycevalenza ->  wow!
19:20:39  datruss ->  wiki's are the same issue because of the 'History'
19:20:41  jepcke ->  our district considers that to be all the same
19:21:03  Gary ->  No one seems to worry about follow-up during radio talk-shows - why the need on the web?
19:21:14  courosa ->  Will find link Dave, having trouble with /live tonight
19:21:23  jomcleay ->  Hi Joyce
19:21:23  sharonp ->  @mjmonty - I believe permissions are needed for print publications - yes
19:21:31  Durff ->  fear of the unknown Gary
19:21:54  Durff ->  hi joyce
19:22:01  jeff ->  what kind of troubles with /live?
19:22:02  fiona_banjer ->  What time does this chat finish?
19:22:13  MizMercer ->  top of the hour
19:22:14  joyce seitzinger ->  hi durff
19:22:21  fiona_banjer ->  Thanks.
19:22:22  Gary ->  But those that use these features "know"
19:22:22  Durff ->  the show is 7-8
19:22:24  JohnS ->  Apologies for plugging myself: http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/archives/2007/12/30/professional-growth/
19:22:32  joyce seitzinger ->  i've missed most of the session : (
19:22:36  jomcleay ->  or 11 to 12
19:22:49  fiona_banjer ->  10 to 11 in Brisbane LOL
19:22:58  Durff ->  depending on how you look at it
19:23:04  jomcleay ->  :D
19:23:05  jepcke ->  rather than ignoring it, I would rather use it as an opportunity to teach the kids what is appropriate
19:23:06  joyce seitzinger ->  hi mrs banjer!
19:23:20  sharonp ->  I agree JOhn - presented this topic at Illinois Online Conf last year
19:23:28  sharonp ->  pre-twitter!
19:23:34  joycevalenza ->  problem is I can't help them develop the kind of amazing network I have before they lose interest
19:23:38  fiona_banjer ->  Hi !! How are your assignments going??
19:23:49  Durff ->  speak for yourself john
19:23:56  JohnS ->  :-)
19:23:58  joycevalenza ->  it's not the tech, but maybe who to include/follow
19:24:04  courosa ->  OK ... on Ning, if you are a network creator (which I am), when you go to manage, you will see a link to "request access to your network's code" ... then they say they will send you the code within 48 hours. I would send a screenshot but can't paste anything into this field from a Mac.
19:24:05  joycevalenza ->  join
19:24:31  MizMercer ->  John S.: California had individual plans for teacher prof dev....
19:24:46  MizMercer ->  They've elimnated PD requirement for renewal
19:24:49  fiona_banjer ->  Hi nzchrissy!
19:24:52  sharonp ->  It is about developing relationships .... I have observed that those who don't do well developing a f2f professional/social relationship - don't do well with online networking
19:24:53  CdnMathTeacher ->  joycevalenza - I followed people who presented at a unconference and then followed the people they followed.
19:25:02  Durff ->  hi murcha
19:25:05  jomcleay ->  Hi nzchrissy
19:25:07  Durff ->  hi chrissy
19:25:08  joycevalenza ->  cool!
19:25:11  nzchrissy ->  Hello everyone
19:25:14  CdnMathTeacher ->  I've only been on Twitter for about 2 months and have learned so much
19:25:22  MizMercer ->  Because with saleary structure, you're going to do professional development on your own
19:25:29  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  31 folks here chatting on a Sun. evening/Mon morning:-)
19:25:31  MizMercer ->  JOHN: They have eliminated those plans
19:25:34  murcha ->  hello I am Anne (murcha) from Australia and this is my first time on so I will sit back and "listen"!!
19:25:38  sharonp ->  @CdnMathTeacher - and we are generally really nice peeps on this network - very welcoming to newbies
19:25:43  Cathy E ->  We have Individual plans for teachers too - every year
19:25:44  MizMercer ->  now NO PD is needed for renewal.
19:25:45  fiona_banjer ->  Hello Anne
19:25:47  joyce seitzinger ->  @fionabanjer uhm, i'm procrastanating like listening to ed tech talk
19:25:48  CdnMathTeacher ->  Exactly!
19:25:48  Durff ->  it is incredible cheryl
19:25:50  jomcleay ->  Hello Anne from another Aussie
19:25:51  sharonp ->  Greeting murcha - nice to have you along
19:25:53  MizMercer ->  So NO plan
19:25:56  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  welcome murcha glad to have you here.
19:26:00  ds ->  @sharonp point well taken re relationships as key
19:26:06  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com/sln
19:26:07  fiona_banjer ->  Same! Off to lunch in a moment ...
19:26:11  murcha ->  Hello jomcleay It is good to meet some other Aussies
19:26:14  JohnS ->  Good points. Thanks, guys.
19:26:26  Durff ->  hi lorna
19:26:31  jomcleay ->  Yes I am jomcleay on twitter and skype
19:26:33  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Hi Doug, came in 8th place in Mt. Dew Vertical Challenge for my age group, next year with this time I wo uld have gold!
19:26:37  lornacos ->  hi Durf
19:26:58  ds ->  Cheryl: wooohoooo good for you!
19:27:04  joycevalenza ->  <SUBN
19:27:05  jomcleay ->  ooh Cheryl I didnt know you were that good lol
19:27:11  courosa ->  Dave, I sent you the Ning link screenshot in Skype.
19:27:17  ds ->  we need to see some video of next year!
19:27:18  sharonp ->  have been thinking a lot of how to get more educators on board.... one study I recently heard about discusses how teacher beliefs are the key factors in change
19:27:20  MizMercer ->  I'm trying to explain this to ISET about redoing professional development.
19:27:21  jomcleay ->  @cheryl congratulations
19:27:24  murcha ->  I have been on twitter for 3 days only and have learnt so much. thought I had learnt so much in the last 6 months as well
19:27:26  Wendy ->  Have a meeting at 7:30.  Nite all.
19:27:27  joycevalenza ->  <SUNY Binghamton grad!
19:27:31  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  well, it is just a fun race, a little competive. My son got fastest boarder on the mountain.
19:27:34  MizMercer ->  District will not recognize distance training.
19:27:42  sharonp ->  ... so how do we tackle changing teacher beliefs?
19:27:42  alicebarr ->  @cheryloakes Congrats!
19:27:48  MizMercer ->  Our local area does online training, but it doesn't count
19:27:49  joyce seitzinger ->  @sharonp tell me more abt this study
19:27:55  joycevalenza ->  very impressed, Cheryl
19:27:57  sharonp ->  let me find it
19:27:58  sroseman ->  congrats Cheryl
19:27:58  jomcleay ->  same at my school Alice Mercer\
19:28:01  JohnS ->  Thanks, also, to all of you who did k12online presentations on this.
19:28:06  Cathy E ->  I am show casing edtechtalk in Feb and March
19:28:08  MizMercer ->  And I can get UNIVERSITY credit, but no PD credit, lol
19:28:13  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Thanks for the recognition folks.
19:28:19  dave ->  http://professionalgrowth.pbwiki.com/
19:28:45  murcha ->  can we or does someone save these conversations or do I just save what I want
19:28:56  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  SharonP there is an article in the ISTE journal about teachers using technology reluctantly, and needing to find purpose. Sorry I can't give more the article is at the mtn. house, but it is relevant
19:29:05  Durff ->  yes murcha
19:29:13  JohnS ->  The archived chat will be posted at edtechtalk.com later tonight or tomorrow
19:29:15  jomcleay ->  murcha you can access them later
19:29:20  Durff ->  the chats are archived
19:29:25  MizMercer ->  I'd like to show this network to my district
19:29:26  murcha ->  taa
19:29:27  JenM ->  Stephen Downes - winding down 2007: http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/01/last-years-elearn-magazine-predic...
19:29:35  Durff ->  taa?
19:29:40  dave ->  i read it.
19:29:42  dave ->  most of it
19:29:43  Durff ->  as in bye?
19:29:45  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  Murcha check out WOW2, last week for Jo McLeay, as a guest on women of web 2.0,
19:30:27  Durff ->   Murcha check out WOW2, last week for Jo McLeay, as a guest on women of web 2.0,
19:30:35  fiona_banjer ->  What's the link for WOW2?
19:30:37  jeff ->  http://www.google.com/policyfellowship/   Google Policy Fellowship
19:30:39  Durff ->  cheryl said
19:30:49  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  www.edtechtalk.com/womenofweb2.0
19:30:53  fiona_banjer ->  I have ISTE Learning & Leading in front of me, what's the article called?
19:30:55  nzchrissy ->  hey that sounds like me!!
19:31:12  joyce seitzinger ->  @fiona i listened to that wow, it was gr8
19:31:18  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  It is the ISTE journal all research articles, and it was the last one in the journal.
19:31:38  JohnS ->   Open Source Living: http://www.osliving.com/
19:32:10  Durff ->  hi phil
19:32:17  phil_g ->  Thanks. Sorry to be late
19:32:32  MizMercer ->  Dang, lots of us tonight
19:32:37  fiona_banjer ->  Not mine then, last piece is "PD at your fingertips"
19:33:00  sharonp ->  once again I cannot post a link in FF using my mac - can I skype someone with a link that they will, in turn, post for me??
19:33:05  dave ->  http://www.edublogosphere.com/
19:33:15  courosa ->  it was a lot of fun last night
19:33:18  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  sharon, just drag the link to the text spot
19:33:20  sharonp ->  I went to IRC chat room - wow, what a trip back to the 90s
19:33:39  joyce seitzinger ->  be interested in that ISTE article
19:33:39  jomcleay ->  there are shortcuts?
19:33:41  courosa ->  We had a heated conversation in Twitter last night ... and we just took it to IRC.
19:33:58  courosa ->  and was set up by Chris Craft
19:34:00  sharonp ->  It's a little tricky.... it is a pdf link from Thunderbird
19:34:01  sroseman ->  dragging the link solves the problem with Macs when you can't copy and paste
19:34:03  MizMercer ->  Everything old is new again?
19:34:18  Durff ->  audio left
19:34:20  MizMercer ->  Cutting in and out...
19:34:22  courosa ->  this doesn't work well on a Mac at all
19:34:24  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  yes durff
19:34:26  sharonp ->  http://www.rp.sg/symposium/download/Summary%20Paragraphs.pdf
19:34:33  courosa ->  I can't cut and paste
19:34:34  MizMercer ->  I'm at full page with chat tonight
19:34:37  fiona_banjer ->  Joyce, Chris Betcher posted a link to Google Earth blog this morning, might be useful for you?
19:34:45  Gary ->  It was working fine on my Mac until now.
19:34:50  MizMercer ->  ridiculous
19:34:58  sharonp ->  there! uBC researchers on perspectives of teaching
19:35:06  Jason Neiffer ->  the irc system here works really well; he has people on it 24 hours a day
19:35:07  Jason Neiffer ->  http://chris.pirillo.com/live/
19:35:08  JenM ->  List of Edubloggers - Technorati ranks 50 and higher: http://www.livemocha.com/education-blog-list.htm
19:35:17  sharonp ->  dragging and dropping eventually worked for me
19:35:20  cheryloakes-tired skier ->  great show and great chat, off to dinner! happy new edtechtalk weekly.
19:35:33  Durff ->  bye cheryl
19:35:41  courosa ->  check out tangler.com ... it's very new, but goes from discussion forum to chat ... not sure if it is quite appropriate, but quite neat.
19:35:56  jeff ->  http://www.suptfelix.blogspot.com/   Jeff Felix 's Dissertation
19:35:58  courosa ->  so moves from synchronous to asynchronous
19:36:07  MizMercer ->  I was a study subject!
19:36:11  MizMercer ->  Anyone else?
19:36:40  JohnS ->  Yugma Web Conferencing Service Giving Back to the World of Bloggers on One Year Anniversary:  http://www.yugma.com/blog/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=261&...
19:36:49  jomcleay ->  well SaronP there's a study for you
19:36:59  jomcleay ->  SharonP
19:37:12  MizMercer ->  Hey, on new blogs: http://www.dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/01/daba-kilian-bet.html
19:37:31  MizMercer ->  Scott McLeod is trying to get readers for good edubloggers with technorati under 100
19:37:31  sharonp ->  that is going to be aninteresting read
19:38:05  dave ->  http://unltdworld.com/
19:38:15  fiona_banjer ->  I have posted my assignments for MEd in blog. Then thought may not be acceptable practice.  ANy thoughts? I find that issues I raise are commented on later - e.g. communication links being essential to move teachers forward with IT.
19:39:03  lparisi ->  Hello all
19:39:12  sharonp ->  @fiona - have you considered using a wiki for that? Or ning, perhaps? It will help organize the material a bit more
19:39:22  JohnS ->  fiona: I would probably be doing that too if I were in grad school right now
19:39:35  nzchrissy ->  Hey Lisa
19:39:37  MizMercer ->  Hi Lisa
19:39:40  lparisi ->  Hi Chrissy
19:39:42  lparisi ->  Hi Alice
19:39:42  JenM ->  Alec - Open Course: http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/739
19:39:52  alicebarr ->  @fiona I ask my grad students to keep their assignments on their blogs
19:40:01  courosa ->  open, connected, social
19:40:07  joyce seitzinger ->  @fiona think it only makes sense these days
19:40:11  guest256 ->  Fiona - What's your goal in posting those assignments?  Getting feedback on the assignment or getting help for them or what?
19:40:23  sharonp ->  Alec has some great speakers lined up ....
19:40:28  alicebarr ->  @lparisi Hi Lisa if you mean me
19:40:38  sharonp ->  :)
19:40:49  lparisi ->  Hi Alice Barr and Alice Mercer
19:40:49  Durff ->  go sharon!
19:41:03  jeff ->  http://www.kottke.org/08/01/the-best-links-2007    The Best Links 2007 (kottke.org)     http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/ahah    AHAH Microformat
19:41:09  alicebarr ->  lol
19:41:45  fiona_banjer ->  My goal was to share what I was learning, celebrate my successes and keep my wiki (actually in wetpaint) alive!
19:41:47  jomcleay ->  we need another time waster Jeff
19:41:51  JohnS ->  Sheridan turns school bus into classroom: http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/211863/
19:42:40  MizMercer ->  Hmm, interesting...
19:43:03  Durff ->  dave doesn't like change
19:43:07  Gary ->  Not any more Dave!
19:43:08  MizMercer ->  Do you EVER run out of nasty things to do?
19:43:21  Durff ->  dave never does
19:43:35  fiona_banjer ->  Love the bus concept. My husband drives school buses as part of his job. I've observed a very marked difference in behaviour from classroom to bus line!
19:44:12  lparisi ->  hi Karen
19:44:14  Gary ->  No teacher would ever become a bus driver .....
19:44:17  ehelfant ->  thanks, great as always but the Hawaii sun is beckoning
19:44:18  joyce seitzinger ->  how are the presenters talking together, skype and the skype sound is fed to ustream? i'm interested in having multiple hosts at webcast like this
19:44:19  KarenJan ->  Hey, Lisa!
19:44:26  sharonp ->  I like this design!
19:44:28  murcha ->  if I want to read links how do I stop getting out of edtechtalk
19:44:36  KarenJan ->  looking forward to seeing you at Educon!
19:44:56  alicebarr ->  Alec's Link again please?
19:44:59  Durff ->  parisi or durff?
19:45:05  KarenJan ->  Both of you!
19:45:10  Gary ->  Murcha - set your browser to open new tab or page.
19:45:12  Durff ->  ok then
19:45:24  lparisi ->  Durff...Lisa...get the names straight Durff
19:45:30  Durff ->  we'll see yuo there
19:45:35  sharonp ->  Vince Jansen sort of taught his grad course this way at Bishops U last summer - blended approach - just a handful of speakers - f2f - with blogging and wikiwork expected
19:45:36  alicebarr ->  @alice Mercer WE have some competition!
19:45:37  KarenJan ->  @lparisi - lol
19:45:42  Durff ->  i need a name tag
19:45:50  lparisi ->  lol
19:45:53  sharonp ->  Alec is taking it a few more steps forward
19:45:54  fiona_banjer ->  Bye everyone, off to lunch at the Gold Coast.  See you on Twitter.
19:45:55  alicebarr ->  Me too Durff!
19:45:59  Durff ->  so i remember my name
19:46:12  nzchrissy ->  bye Fiona
19:46:13  alicebarr ->  What Alec's Wiki link?
19:46:18  Durff ->  keys are around neck on lanyard
19:46:25  courosa ->  eci831.wikispaces.com
19:46:34  alicebarr ->  Thanks
19:46:35  Durff ->  if neck comes off, i don't need keys
19:46:54  KarenJan ->  @durff - that's quite a visual
19:47:00  CdnMathTeacher ->  @Durff - mine are too - with a pen 'cuz I can never find a pen
19:47:02  Durff ->  :)
19:47:05  alicebarr ->  @durff Yikes!!!
19:47:06  mjmonty ->  Great trailer for the course!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbO2q0ZSok
19:47:08  murcha ->  love the sense of humour in this room
19:47:33  jomcleay ->  I have to go to have lunch with @sujokat one of my twitter friends
19:47:44  jomcleay ->  so I better go
19:47:51  jomcleay ->  It's been fun
19:47:51  jeff ->  real lunch or virtual ?
19:47:56  JohnS ->  take care, jo. Thanks.
19:47:59  jomcleay ->  real lunch for once
19:48:03  jomcleay ->  bye
19:48:03  nzchrissy ->  loved you on WOW Jo
19:48:15  jomcleay ->  thx Chrissy
19:48:25  joyce seitzinger ->  me too jo, thx for your insights on WOW
19:48:51  KarenJan ->  husband just asked, aren't you sick of being on the computer? - he hears the conversation
19:49:17  JohnS ->  Sometimes it is time to turn it off, Karen.
19:49:30  KarenJan ->  used today to catch up on my reader - finally down to zero!!
19:49:41  KarenJan ->  it's 24/7 PD
19:49:43  joyce seitzinger ->  @karen, mine just sighed and made me another cup of coffee ; )
19:49:58  KarenJan ->  @joyce - can I borrow him?
19:50:04  JohnS ->  Thanks, Alec. I really enjoy learning from your Tweets
19:50:10  dave ->  http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1697486,00.html?cnn=yes
19:50:24  Durff ->  coffee? i'll take a cup - black no sugar please
19:50:28  nzchrissy ->  Hey Chris!
19:50:44  courosa ->  Thanks all ... email me at alec.couros@uregina.ca if you have any quesitons about the course.
19:50:47  sharonp ->  Hiya Chris... how was the camping?
19:50:53  betchaboy ->  hello
19:50:59  betchaboy ->  yeah good...
19:51:00  MizMercer ->  I LOVE IT!
19:51:40  MizMercer ->  Hey, I just talked about that with Dy/Dan contest on annual report
19:52:11  sharonp ->  what is blog "success"??
19:52:13  MizMercer ->  Sometimes numbers don't tell the whoel picture
19:52:27  JenM ->  Flickr slideshow: http://www.slideoo.com/ .... see it in action at http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/562
19:52:34  courosa ->  got bumped out from skype
19:52:40  dave ->  http://jefflebow.net
19:52:59  joyce seitzinger ->  look at highest search rates: britney and paris...
19:53:12  MizMercer ->  world's WORST blogger?
19:53:22  jeff ->  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/24/AR2007122401567.html   Wikia Search Project to Launch Jan. 7, Wales says - washingtonpost.com
19:53:23  sharonp ->  ugh.... the dangers of having teenagers who are on FB..... my daughter has tagged photos and a video of me on her FB.... wonder who is paying her tuition next year?
19:53:26  Durff ->  who dave?
19:53:35  JohnS ->  he sets attainable goals. one post per year
19:53:37  jeff ->  http://mahalo.com/
19:53:42  Gary ->  If you use that approach we could play drinking games like on TWIT
19:53:51  Durff ->  oh i attained that
19:53:56  Durff ->  vacation time
19:54:03  Durff ->  hi jane
19:54:08  nzchrissy ->  Hi Jane
19:54:09  JohnS ->  Sharon, there's video on here tagged with your name, too
19:54:12  JohnS ->  Airborne internet may generate turbulence:  http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/24/tech-airborne.html and Confusion over New York Cellphone Ban in Schools: http://www.cellular-news.com/story/28376.php
19:54:18  MizMercer ->  Einstein: Not everything that can be measured is important (like Google stats), and not everything that is important can be measured...
19:54:24  betchaboy ->  great to be able to listen live for a change
19:54:43  Jane Nicholls ->  Hello all
19:54:51  betchaboy ->  hi jane
19:54:53  courosa ->  http://educationaltechnology.ca/eci831/?p=7
19:55:03  courosa ->  That's the course trailer if anyone missed it.
19:55:04  MizMercer ->  p*rno?
19:55:25  sharonp ->  oh dear... my life in digital form catching up with me .... NOOOO.... NOT that word, Alice!
19:56:03  sharonp ->  why can't they keep the cell phones in their locker??
19:56:19  MizMercer ->  Sharon, WHAT is in that video your daughter put up?
19:56:24  MizMercer ->  Or should i not ask?
19:56:25  sharonp ->  not only detracts... but can be used for cheating
19:56:26  Gary ->  Not allowed.
19:56:27  Durff ->  i use cellphones
19:56:32  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com/updates
19:56:33  Durff ->  in classroom
19:56:39  Durff ->  and for homework
19:56:47  sharonp ->  just looked at the video she posted.... innocent - just the family decorating the tree
19:57:05  JenM ->  go doug!!!
19:57:29  JohnS ->  but we can't see it unless your kid is our friend, right Sharon?
19:57:31  betchaboy ->  maybe politicians and school administrators should have to have the same level of internet filtering as school do.
19:57:41  sharonp ->  wow, these folks have been busy over the holidays!
19:58:04  JohnS ->  bechaboy: in my school, they do. on purpose.
19:58:04  sharonp ->  you know, it is tagged with MY name, so maybe if you are MY friend??
19:58:24  betchaboy ->  really?  how do they get anything done?
19:58:50  joyce seitzinger ->  @betchaby and IT Administrators should limit themselves as well!
19:58:53  Gary ->  Your Google calendar has two effects - allows you to know when something happens but makes you feel guilty if you miss.
19:58:58  JohnS ->  If they don't live in the same world as the students and teachers, they don't understand the problems.
19:58:58  jeff ->  http://evo08sessionscfp.pbwiki.com/
19:59:20  jeff ->  http://www.bettshow.com/
19:59:32  JenM ->  Consumer Electronic Show: http://www.cesweb.org/default.asp
19:59:33  sharonp ->  I like being able to email myself reminders daily from the Google Calendar
19:59:42  betchaboy ->  it's true, as an netadmin myself i often get a false inpression of what other network users can do...  and my network was quite liberal
19:59:45  MizMercer ->  Don't forget me!
20:00:00  jeff ->  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cesweb.o...
20:00:16  sroseman ->  MacWorld San Fran starts this week
20:00:17  Durff ->  NOT
20:00:25  sharonp ->  we gotta bribe someone goingn to BETT to UStream for us
20:00:30  joyce seitzinger ->  *)
20:00:48  JenM ->  All links we did or didn't get to talk about tonight: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080106
20:01:16  JenM ->  Tag you links - for:edtechtalk within del.icio.us THANK YOU!!
20:01:26  JenM ->  Tag youR links ...
20:01:42  lparisi ->  Thank you.
20:01:44  joyce seitzinger ->  thank you!
20:01:44  kjarrett ->  Thanks all!
20:01:49  phil_g ->  We love the live streams!
20:01:51  sroseman ->  wow ..hanks
20:01:51  Durff ->  clap clap
20:01:56  joyce seitzinger ->  clap clap!
20:01:57  sroseman ->  thanks
20:02:02  Durff ->  gotta go sleep - bye all
20:02:05  Sarah S ->  Great show - not too long! Filled with neat stuff
20:02:07  Gary ->  Thanks
20:02:07  nzchrissy ->  cool show
20:02:24  sharonp ->  Great show - great interaction - good chat!
20:03:17  phil_g ->  thanks for a great show!
20:03:46  jeff ->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pbx
20:04:10  Cathy E ->  What about edusim3D- what is the scoop on that?
20:04:29  MizMercer ->  Local area tech group using breeze
20:05:17  MizMercer ->  night all
20:05:42  jeff ->  http://edusim3d.com/
20:06:22  JenM ->  PVX: http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/video/desktop/pvx.html
20:06:47  sharonp ->  they have mugs.... WOW2 has .... lipgloss
20:07:31  Cathy E ->  go Dave- Go Dave
20:09:42  JohnS ->  409 now? Kinda jumping around, aren't you?
20:09:54  JenM ->  :) ;) :)!!!!
20:10:06  JenM ->  I'm laughing, but you can't hear me ....
20:10:56  JenM ->  Jeff ... :)
20:11:24  JenM ->  OH! Let's all go to Floriday!!
20:11:32  JenM ->  and Florida, too!
20:11:45  Guest409 ->  I love Florida in the winter
20:11:49  dave ->  http://edtechtalk.com:5080/demos/simpleSubscriber.swf
20:11:52  Cathy E ->  So glad I'm past visiting parks
20:11:54  JenM ->  Hoboken
20:12:04  dave ->  30 sec
20:12:13  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com:5080/demos/simpleSubscriber.swf
20:12:53  courosa ->  cool, live dave!
20:13:16  JenM ->  How about Dave jumping on treadmill ...
20:13:53  JenM ->  That was soooo much fun!!!
20:13:58  sharonp ->  Well! there is a special memory from January 6 2008!
20:15:27  JenM ->  positivity?
20:15:32  ds ->  great show gang, thanks -- have a great week all
20:15:37  JenM ->  Change starts in NH!
20:15:50  techsavvygirl ->  is there a different URL  to "watch"  dave's show
20:15:56  techsavvygirl ->  perhaps I missed it
20:16:04  JenM ->  he, he, he ....
20:16:08  JohnS ->  davecormier.com
20:16:27  techsavvygirl ->  thanks johns
20:16:54  sharonp ->  Have a great week folks! Gotta get back to work! cheers!
20:19:21  JenM ->  I'm muted
20:19:39  courosa ->  me too
20:19:44  JenM ->  nite all
20:19:47  courosa ->  thanks everyone!
20:19:49  JenM ->  see you next week!!!!!!!
20:19:51  JenM ->  bye!!
20:19:54  Cathy E ->  night
20:20:10  courosa ->  thanks, was fun, had to take care of the little guy.
20:20:24  courosa ->  gnite all