January 6, 2008
18:46:52 jomcleay -> Hello all
18:47:01 JohnS -> Hey Jo
18:47:04 alexr -> Hi Jo.
18:47:25 alexr -> Hi Dave!
18:47:31 dave -> yo yo
18:47:51 JenM -> Hello!
18:47:56 alexr -> I hear you!
18:48:04 alexr -> We want red5 updates!!!
18:48:10 JenM -> we were being goofy! I didn't know we were streaming :)
18:48:43 jeff -> http://www.worldbridges.net/todo
18:49:06 alexr -> Kids taking photos with my camera upstairs and I can see them being downloaded on my eye fi manager. So silly.
18:49:13 alexr -> Favicon is very nice.
18:49:18 JenM -> HI!!!! JWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!
18:49:27 JenW -> Hi JenMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
18:49:37 jomcleay -> hi JenW
18:50:00 JenW -> Hi Jo
18:50:06 JenW -> hello tomorrow?? LOL
18:50:24 jomcleay -> Yep
18:51:19 JenW -> I sooooo need to hear voices!!!
18:51:41 jeff -> you need to go to http://edtechtalk.com/live and play the Ustream
18:51:49 jomcleay -> lol John S
18:52:07 JenW -> THANK YOU
18:52:10 JenW -> voices!!!!
18:52:12 MizMercer -> Oy, that was loud
18:52:20 JenW -> so tired of just reading text
18:52:29 MizMercer -> My headphones feed loud
18:52:35 jomcleay -> No it is a bit quiet now
18:52:36 MizMercer -> It's even
18:52:37 JenW -> Jen is loud -- Jeff is not loud enough
18:52:44 MizMercer -> I can hear everyone at about the same level
18:53:27 JenW -> I still can't believe you called her -- during a power outage -- and expected her to be a part.
18:53:38 JenW -> Jen is SOOO dedicated
18:53:40 MizMercer -> Hey, a link I submitted yesterday didn't show up:
18:53:41 MizMercer -> http://larryferlazzo.edublogs.org/2008/01/04/dont-forget-the-next-ellesl...
18:54:09 JenW -> Jeff is better now -- as is Jen
18:54:16 MizMercer -> I don't mind if you didn't want to include, BUT I know sometimes stuff doesn't "show up" I think it might have to do with
18:54:22 MizMercer -> bookmarking in diigo?
18:54:23 jomcleay -> Hi Doug
18:54:29 ds -> Hi all
18:54:29 MizMercer -> Not under water
18:54:30 JenW -> becuase of the FAKE storm that never hit
18:54:39 MizMercer -> No!
18:54:43 JenW -> let me go outside and look
18:54:48 MizMercer -> Neighbor has tree in this bedroom
18:55:05 MizMercer -> AND power was off for some until last night starting Friday
18:55:06 JenW -> all is fine here -- very boring
18:55:14 JenM -> Happy New Year to all!!!!
18:55:15 MizMercer -> Larry Ferlazzo had no power for 36 hours
18:55:17 jomcleay -> JenW be grateful
18:55:19 ds -> boring is good re weather
18:55:26 JenW -> sighs -- still hoping for SNOW
18:55:27 JenW -> :)
18:55:40 ds -> careful what you wish for ;)
18:55:58 MizMercer -> So Dave, did you get my link for Larry Ferlazzo?
18:56:06 JenW -> so if I lived in snow -- would I really not like it as much? is that true??
18:56:16 Cathy E -> 66 f here today in NC
18:56:32 MizMercer -> Hmmm
18:56:36 JenM -> Cathy ... you can get a tan tomorrow :)
18:56:39 dave -> MizMercer?
18:56:44 MizMercer -> I put it on ETT calendar on gmail
18:56:48 MizMercer -> Today
18:57:14 jomcleay -> Hi Alec
18:57:19 courosa -> hey jo
18:57:40 Cathy E -> Dave makes me laugh
18:57:56 Gary -> 366- did have to pick a leap year.
18:58:02 Cathy E -> We love ya Dave
18:58:05 courosa -> hey all
18:58:16 JenW -> does it have to be unique or can it be an outtake from this show??
18:58:29 MizMercer -> I WANT GUIDELINES!
18:58:49 MizMercer -> I have put ItsE! on google calendar but it's just on mine
18:58:52 sroseman -> greetings everyone
18:59:08 jomcleay -> Hello Sue
18:59:17 MizMercer -> MY LIFE!
18:59:26 sroseman -> Hi jomcleay
18:59:37 Cathy E -> I got it from teacher tube
18:59:43 Cathy E -> that is not blocked
18:59:54 Gary -> You are welcome - I was bored.
19:00:02 JenW -> what are teh sirens for??
19:00:03 Cathy E -> I got your conversion- then could not get it on MY server
19:00:34 JohnS -> JenM always gets noise outside her place right around showtime
19:00:44 JenW -> is JenM -- safe??
19:00:44 courosa -> i like it, better
19:00:45 MizMercer -> This seems "just right"
19:00:50 courosa -> awkward before
19:00:53 MizMercer -> The text is the right size (big)
19:00:53 JohnS -> She's fine.
19:01:04 MizMercer -> The audio is small which is nice
19:01:07 JackieB -> Huh. I keep losing sound.
19:01:11 ds -> like the new look
19:01:12 jomcleay -> Hello Durff
19:01:17 MizMercer -> I have SERIOUS phleghm issues. Had cold this week
19:01:25 MizMercer -> I wasn't worried, lol
19:01:34 MizMercer -> I lived in teh hood
19:01:37 JenW -> I was lighting a candle LOLOL --- just kidding
19:01:38 MizMercer -> I still do sorta
19:01:45 courosa -> i think commas are underused, not?
19:01:51 dave -> ,,,,
19:01:51 JenW -> I thought it was a WEATHER siren
19:02:07 MizMercer -> I'm getting that underwater feeling, that says, "You may be getting bronchitis"
19:02:16 Jason Neiffer -> what time does the show start?
19:02:18 sharonp -> is there a stream tonight?
19:02:27 jomcleay -> HNY
19:02:32 JohnS -> Jason: right now
19:02:33 courosa -> hi sharon
19:02:36 Cathy E -> http://www.edtechtalk.com/studio
19:02:40 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Good day Jo.
19:02:47 JenW -> new format -- AGAIN??
19:02:54 MizMercer -> JW AMEN!
19:02:54 jomcleay -> Hello Cheryl
19:03:02 sharonp -> Hi Jo, Alec, Cheryl, Sue - quite a crowd tonight!
19:03:13 jomcleay -> This is great!
19:03:18 MizMercer -> Yep
19:03:21 courosa -> almost like our IRC chat last night. :-)
19:03:22 JenW -> ohhh -- rapid fire!!! Putting on my seatbelt--- gonna be a great ride tonight
19:03:28 sroseman -> hello everyone, including the tired skier
19:03:28 MizMercer -> IRC?
19:03:33 MizMercer -> Isn't that ancient?
19:03:39 jeff -> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guerrilla_Warfare_and_the_OLPC Guerrilla Warfare and the OLPC - OLPC
19:03:41 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Hi SharonP, Alec, Sue, Dave, JEnM, Jeff,Durff, Gary, JackieB Jason, jcc, YIKES
19:03:42 MizMercer -> I didn't know you could still do that?
19:03:46 courosa -> Jepsen and Intel ... will be creating a new XO-buster.
19:03:49 jomcleay -> As ancient as yesterday Alice
19:03:57 MizMercer -> Dang!
19:03:59 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Miz mercer, mjmonty, HI SARAH, Steve
19:04:04 MizMercer -> I didn't know it was still up!
19:04:11 Sarah S -> Hey there Cheryl!
19:04:13 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Hi Wendy, and all in chat room
19:04:29 Gary -> Some of the reasons given for not using it are compelling.
19:04:46 Durff -> hi cheryl - i was eating enchiladas - sorry
19:05:05 Durff -> hi jess
19:05:14 cheryloakes-tired skier -> oky, Durff, no prob.
19:05:15 jessmc -> hi there
19:05:20 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Hi Jessc
19:05:21 courosa -> reminds me of the water buffalo video ... we need to think about responsible global citizenship ... see Star Trek.
19:05:41 Durff -> is guerrilla warfare fighting animals?
19:05:42 sharonp -> however, at least the issue is raised
19:05:46 Wendy -> Hi all. I had to step away to grab some headphones.
19:05:55 JackieB -> I keep losing audio. Be back in bit.
19:05:55 MizMercer -> Sound dropped a bit
19:06:12 Wendy -> I'm losing audio, too. hmmm
19:06:24 jomcleay -> Got good audio now
19:06:40 cheryloakes-tired skier -> If I lose audio is it ustream audio ?
19:06:52 dave -> http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/12/24/laptop.village.ap/index.htm...
19:06:54 cheryloakes-tired skier -> looks like edtechA and B not streaming?
19:06:56 MizMercer -> Cultural imperialism? Out of persia my dear
19:07:02 Durff -> hi mhobkirk
19:07:02 ds -> sounds like "stream buffering" to me
19:07:09 Durff -> hi fiona
19:07:11 jomcleay -> Hi Fiona B
19:07:12 mhobkirk -> Grettings
19:07:13 ds -> better now, more steady
19:07:16 mhobkirk -> greetings
19:07:17 sharonp -> Cheryl - we are in the ETT studio
19:07:17 fiona_banjer -> Hi
19:07:19 JenM -> OLPC CTO Leaves: http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&arti...
19:07:32 MizMercer -> But a computer to learn chess, hmmm
19:07:37 mhobkirk -> need to switch to firefox, brb
19:07:37 Durff -> coffee refill....
19:07:37 courosa -> When the first word from an African child is "Google" we should be disturbed, not please. let's be critical, is this progress? tech colonialism? What is progress?
19:07:48 courosa -> Greed!
19:08:23 jepcke -> Where are their links to be found? "In our links section..."
19:08:31 Gary -> Chicago economics?
19:08:33 fiona_banjer -> It's like computers being put into classrooms with teachers who don't understand what they can do.
19:08:36 dave -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080106
19:08:45 jepcke -> Thnx Dave
19:08:47 MizMercer -> I say do it with cell phones
19:08:54 datruss -> DaveT
19:09:12 Durff -> welcome back
19:09:37 MizMercer -> Isn't this the crux of the issue with OLPC? It's got some WONDERFUL design elements, but the implementation plan sucks.
19:09:52 Durff -> hi thespian
19:10:03 datruss -> When does it start? Sound? (forgive the newbie)
19:10:05 MizMercer -> Would be GREAT!
19:10:12 Gary -> But "shock therapy" econimics demands that it be commercialized.
19:10:15 Durff -> i would have to agree with dave - they do have a responsibility
19:10:20 Cathy E -> audio is bumpy, is it just me?
19:10:23 JenM -> Scoble Scuffle: http://www.news.com/8301-13577_3-9839474-36.html?tag=nefd.top
19:10:27 JenW -> did I lose sound??
19:10:28 Sarah S -> Is anyone else getting audio drop for 5-10 sec intervals?
19:10:34 fiona_banjer -> SOund is jumpy for me too.
19:10:35 JenW -> yes,
19:10:35 MizMercer -> I am losing sound
19:10:37 jessmc -> my sound coming and going
19:10:38 Durff -> no Cathy - audio is in and out
19:10:42 jessmc -> and a bit jumpy
19:10:52 mjmonty -> only available via ustream tonite??
19:11:02 Durff -> yes
19:11:11 mjmonty -> ahhh...thanx
19:11:21 Cathy E -> http://www.edtechtalk.com/studio
19:11:22 MizMercer -> Hey steady sound...
19:11:22 Durff -> $5
19:11:34 jeff -> now streaming on ETT A as well
19:11:45 cheryloakes-tired skier -> thanks Jeff
19:11:53 Durff -> hi laura
19:12:01 MizMercer -> Render unto Caesar?
19:12:14 Durff -> don't choke on it dave
19:12:24 ds -> lol
19:12:36 Durff -> hi wendy
19:13:06 Durff -> hi lornacos
19:13:12 sharonp -> John was nice - he "needed" to help me out with something
19:13:14 Durff -> hi alice
19:13:21 alicebarr -> hi durff
19:13:26 sharonp -> and that is why he set up a FB account
19:13:28 alicebarr -> hi tired skiier
19:13:37 jeff -> http://www.dataportability.org/
19:13:40 MizMercer -> Hi Lisa
19:13:44 Sarah S -> Hi there Alice
19:13:45 Durff -> keep the snow up there
19:13:51 Durff -> hi alice
19:13:51 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Hi Alice, happy traveler alicebarr
19:13:53 alicebarr -> Hi Sarah!
19:13:55 MizMercer -> Oh oh, need another color
19:13:59 alexr -> Can't listen live and be a good Dad. Will listen to the podcast. Take care all.
19:14:11 jomcleay -> Hello Alice Barr
19:14:12 alicebarr -> Hi durff
19:14:17 alicebarr -> Hi Jo
19:14:32 alicebarr -> Everyone is here! :D
19:14:35 MizMercer -> Oops, sorry for taking your hellos Alice Barr
19:14:41 Durff -> hi math teacher
19:14:46 dave -> http://davecormier.com/edblog/2007/12/30/the-difference-between-free-and...
19:14:51 sharonp -> cool....all of us creating content... what happens when something goes belly up?
19:14:56 courosa -> Ning's open source code is available, may be vulnerable, but also, you could technically host it yourself.
19:15:12 alicebarr -> Oops Sorry I took yours too MizMercer!
19:15:20 JohnS -> Right, Alec. It's free beer vs free speech
19:15:20 Durff -> no body besides them?
19:15:27 courosa -> Question: What are we worried about? What is the worst case scenario?
19:15:37 mjmonty -> nobody knows how safe ANYTHING is...
19:15:50 MizMercer -> NEXT...
19:15:55 sharonp -> thanks Alec.... !
19:15:56 Durff -> crossing the street isn't safe
19:15:58 courosa -> the code is available ... Ning is just hosted, you can actually download the source ... yes, it is open source.
19:16:03 mjmonty -> that is a silly statement to me
19:16:08 jeff -> http://www.thethinkingstick.com/?p=610 The Thinking Stick » ‘08 The ‘Live Web’
19:16:29 JenW -> I just don't like that NING would charge me $20 a month to take the ads off
19:16:35 JenW -> but I am enjoying our conversations on the NING
19:16:50 jomcleay -> Jeff that is the best thing for me
19:17:01 dave -> Alec... can you give me a link to opensource ning?
19:17:03 dave -> can't find
19:17:07 jomcleay -> that it is live I mean
19:17:27 sharonp -> It is unfortunately another argument against using web environments for education - as if the IT directors I talk to don't have enough reasons not to use them!
19:17:45 MizMercer -> I have an interview with Brian Crosby that I'm still trying to pull down.
19:17:52 MizMercer -> from USTREAM
19:17:57 fiona_banjer -> We don't have privacy issues, it's blocked anyway LOL
19:17:58 Cathy E -> And why do all those people on UStream leave their stream running and they are gone and the room is dark
19:18:04 sharonp -> live videostreaming of students scares me
19:18:37 alicebarr -> But how else will students learn to ask appropriate questions?
19:18:48 alicebarr -> How about setting the parameters first?
19:18:59 sharonp -> live videostreaming of students that is wide open on the net - BIG liability issues
19:19:20 Durff -> ladies and gentlemen, joyce valenza has entered the room!
19:19:24 joycevalenza -> we've had author visits where the authors said controversial things.
19:19:29 joycevalenza -> shucks
19:19:31 sharonp -> having open student content posted online is one thing - livestreaming is another
19:19:45 joycevalenza -> Discussion after mitigated the problems
19:19:52 joycevalenza -> there is never a guarantee
19:19:53 mjmonty -> are there liability issues of putting kids photos along with first and last names in local paper??
19:20:10 jepcke -> isn't live streaming a part of the web permissions? Permission to be allowed to photgraph, videotape kids, etc
19:20:18 sharonp -> LOL
19:20:21 jeff -> http://davecormier.com/
19:20:23 mjmonty -> I would submit that there are more risks via local paper publication
19:20:26 sharonp -> you rotter....
19:20:27 Durff -> hi techsavvy
19:20:35 TechSavvy -> Hi
19:20:38 joycevalenza -> wow!
19:20:39 datruss -> wiki's are the same issue because of the 'History'
19:20:41 jepcke -> our district considers that to be all the same
19:21:03 Gary -> No one seems to worry about follow-up during radio talk-shows - why the need on the web?
19:21:14 courosa -> Will find link Dave, having trouble with /live tonight
19:21:23 jomcleay -> Hi Joyce
19:21:23 sharonp -> @mjmonty - I believe permissions are needed for print publications - yes
19:21:31 Durff -> fear of the unknown Gary
19:21:54 Durff -> hi joyce
19:22:01 jeff -> what kind of troubles with /live?
19:22:02 fiona_banjer -> What time does this chat finish?
19:22:13 MizMercer -> top of the hour
19:22:14 joyce seitzinger -> hi durff
19:22:21 fiona_banjer -> Thanks.
19:22:22 Gary -> But those that use these features "know"
19:22:22 Durff -> the show is 7-8
19:22:24 JohnS -> Apologies for plugging myself: http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/archives/2007/12/30/professional-growth/
19:22:32 joyce seitzinger -> i've missed most of the session : (
19:22:36 jomcleay -> or 11 to 12
19:22:49 fiona_banjer -> 10 to 11 in Brisbane LOL
19:22:58 Durff -> depending on how you look at it
19:23:04 jomcleay -> :D
19:23:05 jepcke -> rather than ignoring it, I would rather use it as an opportunity to teach the kids what is appropriate
19:23:06 joyce seitzinger -> hi mrs banjer!
19:23:20 sharonp -> I agree JOhn - presented this topic at Illinois Online Conf last year
19:23:28 sharonp -> pre-twitter!
19:23:34 joycevalenza -> problem is I can't help them develop the kind of amazing network I have before they lose interest
19:23:38 fiona_banjer -> Hi !! How are your assignments going??
19:23:49 Durff -> speak for yourself john
19:23:56 JohnS -> :-)
19:23:58 joycevalenza -> it's not the tech, but maybe who to include/follow
19:24:04 courosa -> OK ... on Ning, if you are a network creator (which I am), when you go to manage, you will see a link to "request access to your network's code" ... then they say they will send you the code within 48 hours. I would send a screenshot but can't paste anything into this field from a Mac.
19:24:05 joycevalenza -> join
19:24:31 MizMercer -> John S.: California had individual plans for teacher prof dev....
19:24:46 MizMercer -> They've elimnated PD requirement for renewal
19:24:49 fiona_banjer -> Hi nzchrissy!
19:24:52 sharonp -> It is about developing relationships .... I have observed that those who don't do well developing a f2f professional/social relationship - don't do well with online networking
19:24:53 CdnMathTeacher -> joycevalenza - I followed people who presented at a unconference and then followed the people they followed.
19:25:02 Durff -> hi murcha
19:25:05 jomcleay -> Hi nzchrissy
19:25:07 Durff -> hi chrissy
19:25:08 joycevalenza -> cool!
19:25:11 nzchrissy -> Hello everyone
19:25:14 CdnMathTeacher -> I've only been on Twitter for about 2 months and have learned so much
19:25:22 MizMercer -> Because with saleary structure, you're going to do professional development on your own
19:25:29 cheryloakes-tired skier -> 31 folks here chatting on a Sun. evening/Mon morning:-)
19:25:31 MizMercer -> JOHN: They have eliminated those plans
19:25:34 murcha -> hello I am Anne (murcha) from Australia and this is my first time on so I will sit back and "listen"!!
19:25:38 sharonp -> @CdnMathTeacher - and we are generally really nice peeps on this network - very welcoming to newbies
19:25:43 Cathy E -> We have Individual plans for teachers too - every year
19:25:44 MizMercer -> now NO PD is needed for renewal.
19:25:45 fiona_banjer -> Hello Anne
19:25:47 joyce seitzinger -> @fionabanjer uhm, i'm procrastanating like listening to ed tech talk
19:25:48 CdnMathTeacher -> Exactly!
19:25:48 Durff -> it is incredible cheryl
19:25:50 jomcleay -> Hello Anne from another Aussie
19:25:51 sharonp -> Greeting murcha - nice to have you along
19:25:53 MizMercer -> So NO plan
19:25:56 cheryloakes-tired skier -> welcome murcha glad to have you here.
19:26:00 ds -> @sharonp point well taken re relationships as key
19:26:06 jeff -> http://edtechtalk.com/sln
19:26:07 fiona_banjer -> Same! Off to lunch in a moment ...
19:26:11 murcha -> Hello jomcleay It is good to meet some other Aussies
19:26:14 JohnS -> Good points. Thanks, guys.
19:26:26 Durff -> hi lorna
19:26:31 jomcleay -> Yes I am jomcleay on twitter and skype
19:26:33 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Hi Doug, came in 8th place in Mt. Dew Vertical Challenge for my age group, next year with this time I wo uld have gold!
19:26:37 lornacos -> hi Durf
19:26:58 ds -> Cheryl: wooohoooo good for you!
19:27:04 joycevalenza -> <SUBN
19:27:05 jomcleay -> ooh Cheryl I didnt know you were that good lol
19:27:11 courosa -> Dave, I sent you the Ning link screenshot in Skype.
19:27:17 ds -> we need to see some video of next year!
19:27:18 sharonp -> have been thinking a lot of how to get more educators on board.... one study I recently heard about discusses how teacher beliefs are the key factors in change
19:27:20 MizMercer -> I'm trying to explain this to ISET about redoing professional development.
19:27:21 jomcleay -> @cheryl congratulations
19:27:24 murcha -> I have been on twitter for 3 days only and have learnt so much. thought I had learnt so much in the last 6 months as well
19:27:26 Wendy -> Have a meeting at 7:30. Nite all.
19:27:27 joycevalenza -> <SUNY Binghamton grad!
19:27:31 cheryloakes-tired skier -> well, it is just a fun race, a little competive. My son got fastest boarder on the mountain.
19:27:34 MizMercer -> District will not recognize distance training.
19:27:42 sharonp -> ... so how do we tackle changing teacher beliefs?
19:27:42 alicebarr -> @cheryloakes Congrats!
19:27:48 MizMercer -> Our local area does online training, but it doesn't count
19:27:49 joyce seitzinger -> @sharonp tell me more abt this study
19:27:55 joycevalenza -> very impressed, Cheryl
19:27:57 sharonp -> let me find it
19:27:58 sroseman -> congrats Cheryl
19:27:58 jomcleay -> same at my school Alice Mercer\
19:28:01 JohnS -> Thanks, also, to all of you who did k12online presentations on this.
19:28:06 Cathy E -> I am show casing edtechtalk in Feb and March
19:28:08 MizMercer -> And I can get UNIVERSITY credit, but no PD credit, lol
19:28:13 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Thanks for the recognition folks.
19:28:19 dave -> http://professionalgrowth.pbwiki.com/
19:28:45 murcha -> can we or does someone save these conversations or do I just save what I want
19:28:56 cheryloakes-tired skier -> SharonP there is an article in the ISTE journal about teachers using technology reluctantly, and needing to find purpose. Sorry I can't give more the article is at the mtn. house, but it is relevant
19:29:05 Durff -> yes murcha
19:29:13 JohnS -> The archived chat will be posted at edtechtalk.com later tonight or tomorrow
19:29:15 jomcleay -> murcha you can access them later
19:29:20 Durff -> the chats are archived
19:29:25 MizMercer -> I'd like to show this network to my district
19:29:26 murcha -> taa
19:29:27 JenM -> Stephen Downes - winding down 2007: http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/01/last-years-elearn-magazine-predic...
19:29:35 Durff -> taa?
19:29:40 dave -> i read it.
19:29:42 dave -> most of it
19:29:43 Durff -> as in bye?
19:29:45 cheryloakes-tired skier -> Murcha check out WOW2, last week for Jo McLeay, as a guest on women of web 2.0,
19:30:27 Durff -> Murcha check out WOW2, last week for Jo McLeay, as a guest on women of web 2.0,
19:30:35 fiona_banjer -> What's the link for WOW2?
19:30:37 jeff -> http://www.google.com/policyfellowship/ Google Policy Fellowship
19:30:39 Durff -> cheryl said
19:30:49 cheryloakes-tired skier -> www.edtechtalk.com/womenofweb2.0
19:30:53 fiona_banjer -> I have ISTE Learning & Leading in front of me, what's the article called?
19:30:55 nzchrissy -> hey that sounds like me!!
19:31:12 joyce seitzinger -> @fiona i listened to that wow, it was gr8
19:31:18 cheryloakes-tired skier -> It is the ISTE journal all research articles, and it was the last one in the journal.
19:31:38 JohnS -> Open Source Living: http://www.osliving.com/
19:32:10 Durff -> hi phil
19:32:17 phil_g -> Thanks. Sorry to be late
19:32:32 MizMercer -> Dang, lots of us tonight
19:32:37 fiona_banjer -> Not mine then, last piece is "PD at your fingertips"
19:33:00 sharonp -> once again I cannot post a link in FF using my mac - can I skype someone with a link that they will, in turn, post for me??
19:33:05 dave -> http://www.edublogosphere.com/
19:33:15 courosa -> it was a lot of fun last night
19:33:18 cheryloakes-tired skier -> sharon, just drag the link to the text spot
19:33:20 sharonp -> I went to IRC chat room - wow, what a trip back to the 90s
19:33:39 joyce seitzinger -> be interested in that ISTE article
19:33:39 jomcleay -> there are shortcuts?
19:33:41 courosa -> We had a heated conversation in Twitter last night ... and we just took it to IRC.
19:33:58 courosa -> and was set up by Chris Craft
19:34:00 sharonp -> It's a little tricky.... it is a pdf link from Thunderbird
19:34:01 sroseman -> dragging the link solves the problem with Macs when you can't copy and paste
19:34:03 MizMercer -> Everything old is new again?
19:34:18 Durff -> audio left
19:34:20 MizMercer -> Cutting in and out...
19:34:22 courosa -> this doesn't work well on a Mac at all
19:34:24 cheryloakes-tired skier -> yes durff
19:34:26 sharonp -> http://www.rp.sg/symposium/download/Summary%20Paragraphs.pdf
19:34:33 courosa -> I can't cut and paste
19:34:34 MizMercer -> I'm at full page with chat tonight
19:34:37 fiona_banjer -> Joyce, Chris Betcher posted a link to Google Earth blog this morning, might be useful for you?
19:34:45 Gary -> It was working fine on my Mac until now.
19:34:50 MizMercer -> ridiculous
19:34:58 sharonp -> there! uBC researchers on perspectives of teaching
19:35:06 Jason Neiffer -> the irc system here works really well; he has people on it 24 hours a day
19:35:07 Jason Neiffer -> http://chris.pirillo.com/live/
19:35:08 JenM -> List of Edubloggers - Technorati ranks 50 and higher: http://www.livemocha.com/education-blog-list.htm
19:35:17 sharonp -> dragging and dropping eventually worked for me
19:35:20 cheryloakes-tired skier -> great show and great chat, off to dinner! happy new edtechtalk weekly.
19:35:33 Durff -> bye cheryl
19:35:41 courosa -> check out tangler.com ... it's very new, but goes from discussion forum to chat ... not sure if it is quite appropriate, but quite neat.
19:35:56 jeff -> http://www.suptfelix.blogspot.com/ Jeff Felix 's Dissertation
19:35:58 courosa -> so moves from synchronous to asynchronous
19:36:07 MizMercer -> I was a study subject!
19:36:11 MizMercer -> Anyone else?
19:36:40 JohnS -> Yugma Web Conferencing Service Giving Back to the World of Bloggers on One Year Anniversary: http://www.yugma.com/blog/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=261&...
19:36:49 jomcleay -> well SaronP there's a study for you
19:36:59 jomcleay -> SharonP
19:37:12 MizMercer -> Hey, on new blogs: http://www.dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/01/daba-kilian-bet.html
19:37:31 MizMercer -> Scott McLeod is trying to get readers for good edubloggers with technorati under 100
19:37:31 sharonp -> that is going to be aninteresting read
19:38:05 dave -> http://unltdworld.com/
19:38:15 fiona_banjer -> I have posted my assignments for MEd in blog. Then thought may not be acceptable practice. ANy thoughts? I find that issues I raise are commented on later - e.g. communication links being essential to move teachers forward with IT.
19:39:03 lparisi -> Hello all
19:39:12 sharonp -> @fiona - have you considered using a wiki for that? Or ning, perhaps? It will help organize the material a bit more
19:39:22 JohnS -> fiona: I would probably be doing that too if I were in grad school right now
19:39:35 nzchrissy -> Hey Lisa
19:39:37 MizMercer -> Hi Lisa
19:39:40 lparisi -> Hi Chrissy
19:39:42 lparisi -> Hi Alice
19:39:42 JenM -> Alec - Open Course: http://educationaltechnology.ca/couros/739
19:39:52 alicebarr -> @fiona I ask my grad students to keep their assignments on their blogs
19:40:01 courosa -> open, connected, social
19:40:07 joyce seitzinger -> @fiona think it only makes sense these days
19:40:11 guest256 -> Fiona - What's your goal in posting those assignments? Getting feedback on the assignment or getting help for them or what?
19:40:23 sharonp -> Alec has some great speakers lined up ....
19:40:28 alicebarr -> @lparisi Hi Lisa if you mean me
19:40:38 sharonp -> :)
19:40:49 lparisi -> Hi Alice Barr and Alice Mercer
19:40:49 Durff -> go sharon!
19:41:03 jeff -> http://www.kottke.org/08/01/the-best-links-2007 The Best Links 2007 (kottke.org) http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/ahah AHAH Microformat
19:41:09 alicebarr -> lol
19:41:45 fiona_banjer -> My goal was to share what I was learning, celebrate my successes and keep my wiki (actually in wetpaint) alive!
19:41:47 jomcleay -> we need another time waster Jeff
19:41:51 JohnS -> Sheridan turns school bus into classroom: http://www.nwanews.com/adg/News/211863/
19:42:40 MizMercer -> Hmm, interesting...
19:43:03 Durff -> dave doesn't like change
19:43:07 Gary -> Not any more Dave!
19:43:08 MizMercer -> Do you EVER run out of nasty things to do?
19:43:21 Durff -> dave never does
19:43:35 fiona_banjer -> Love the bus concept. My husband drives school buses as part of his job. I've observed a very marked difference in behaviour from classroom to bus line!
19:44:12 lparisi -> hi Karen
19:44:14 Gary -> No teacher would ever become a bus driver .....
19:44:17 ehelfant -> thanks, great as always but the Hawaii sun is beckoning
19:44:18 joyce seitzinger -> how are the presenters talking together, skype and the skype sound is fed to ustream? i'm interested in having multiple hosts at webcast like this
19:44:19 KarenJan -> Hey, Lisa!
19:44:26 sharonp -> I like this design!
19:44:28 murcha -> if I want to read links how do I stop getting out of edtechtalk
19:44:36 KarenJan -> looking forward to seeing you at Educon!
19:44:56 alicebarr -> Alec's Link again please?
19:44:59 Durff -> parisi or durff?
19:45:05 KarenJan -> Both of you!
19:45:10 Gary -> Murcha - set your browser to open new tab or page.
19:45:12 Durff -> ok then
19:45:24 lparisi -> Durff...Lisa...get the names straight Durff
19:45:30 Durff -> we'll see yuo there
19:45:35 sharonp -> Vince Jansen sort of taught his grad course this way at Bishops U last summer - blended approach - just a handful of speakers - f2f - with blogging and wikiwork expected
19:45:36 alicebarr -> @alice Mercer WE have some competition!
19:45:37 KarenJan -> @lparisi - lol
19:45:42 Durff -> i need a name tag
19:45:50 lparisi -> lol
19:45:53 sharonp -> Alec is taking it a few more steps forward
19:45:54 fiona_banjer -> Bye everyone, off to lunch at the Gold Coast. See you on Twitter.
19:45:55 alicebarr -> Me too Durff!
19:45:59 Durff -> so i remember my name
19:46:12 nzchrissy -> bye Fiona
19:46:13 alicebarr -> What Alec's Wiki link?
19:46:18 Durff -> keys are around neck on lanyard
19:46:25 courosa -> eci831.wikispaces.com
19:46:34 alicebarr -> Thanks
19:46:35 Durff -> if neck comes off, i don't need keys
19:46:54 KarenJan -> @durff - that's quite a visual
19:47:00 CdnMathTeacher -> @Durff - mine are too - with a pen 'cuz I can never find a pen
19:47:02 Durff -> :)
19:47:05 alicebarr -> @durff Yikes!!!
19:47:06 mjmonty -> Great trailer for the course!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbO2q0ZSok
19:47:08 murcha -> love the sense of humour in this room
19:47:33 jomcleay -> I have to go to have lunch with @sujokat one of my twitter friends
19:47:44 jomcleay -> so I better go
19:47:51 jomcleay -> It's been fun
19:47:51 jeff -> real lunch or virtual ?
19:47:56 JohnS -> take care, jo. Thanks.
19:47:59 jomcleay -> real lunch for once
19:48:03 jomcleay -> bye
19:48:03 nzchrissy -> loved you on WOW Jo
19:48:15 jomcleay -> thx Chrissy
19:48:25 joyce seitzinger -> me too jo, thx for your insights on WOW
19:48:51 KarenJan -> husband just asked, aren't you sick of being on the computer? - he hears the conversation
19:49:17 JohnS -> Sometimes it is time to turn it off, Karen.
19:49:30 KarenJan -> used today to catch up on my reader - finally down to zero!!
19:49:41 KarenJan -> it's 24/7 PD
19:49:43 joyce seitzinger -> @karen, mine just sighed and made me another cup of coffee ; )
19:49:58 KarenJan -> @joyce - can I borrow him?
19:50:04 JohnS -> Thanks, Alec. I really enjoy learning from your Tweets
19:50:10 dave -> http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1697486,00.html?cnn=yes
19:50:24 Durff -> coffee? i'll take a cup - black no sugar please
19:50:28 nzchrissy -> Hey Chris!
19:50:44 courosa -> Thanks all ... email me at firstname.lastname@example.org if you have any quesitons about the course.
19:50:47 sharonp -> Hiya Chris... how was the camping?
19:50:53 betchaboy -> hello
19:50:59 betchaboy -> yeah good...
19:51:00 MizMercer -> I LOVE IT!
19:51:40 MizMercer -> Hey, I just talked about that with Dy/Dan contest on annual report
19:52:11 sharonp -> what is blog "success"??
19:52:13 MizMercer -> Sometimes numbers don't tell the whoel picture
19:52:27 JenM -> Flickr slideshow: http://www.slideoo.com/ .... see it in action at http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/562
19:52:34 courosa -> got bumped out from skype
19:52:40 dave -> http://jefflebow.net
19:52:59 joyce seitzinger -> look at highest search rates: britney and paris...
19:53:12 MizMercer -> world's WORST blogger?
19:53:22 jeff -> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/24/AR2007122401567.html Wikia Search Project to Launch Jan. 7, Wales says - washingtonpost.com
19:53:23 sharonp -> ugh.... the dangers of having teenagers who are on FB..... my daughter has tagged photos and a video of me on her FB.... wonder who is paying her tuition next year?
19:53:26 Durff -> who dave?
19:53:35 JohnS -> he sets attainable goals. one post per year
19:53:37 jeff -> http://mahalo.com/
19:53:42 Gary -> If you use that approach we could play drinking games like on TWIT
19:53:51 Durff -> oh i attained that
19:53:56 Durff -> vacation time
19:54:03 Durff -> hi jane
19:54:08 nzchrissy -> Hi Jane
19:54:09 JohnS -> Sharon, there's video on here tagged with your name, too
19:54:12 JohnS -> Airborne internet may generate turbulence: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/12/24/tech-airborne.html and Confusion over New York Cellphone Ban in Schools: http://www.cellular-news.com/story/28376.php
19:54:18 MizMercer -> Einstein: Not everything that can be measured is important (like Google stats), and not everything that is important can be measured...
19:54:24 betchaboy -> great to be able to listen live for a change
19:54:43 Jane Nicholls -> Hello all
19:54:51 betchaboy -> hi jane
19:54:53 courosa -> http://educationaltechnology.ca/eci831/?p=7
19:55:03 courosa -> That's the course trailer if anyone missed it.
19:55:04 MizMercer -> p*rno?
19:55:25 sharonp -> oh dear... my life in digital form catching up with me .... NOOOO.... NOT that word, Alice!
19:56:03 sharonp -> why can't they keep the cell phones in their locker??
19:56:19 MizMercer -> Sharon, WHAT is in that video your daughter put up?
19:56:24 MizMercer -> Or should i not ask?
19:56:25 sharonp -> not only detracts... but can be used for cheating
19:56:26 Gary -> Not allowed.
19:56:27 Durff -> i use cellphones
19:56:32 jeff -> http://edtechtalk.com/updates
19:56:33 Durff -> in classroom
19:56:39 Durff -> and for homework
19:56:47 sharonp -> just looked at the video she posted.... innocent - just the family decorating the tree
19:57:05 JenM -> go doug!!!
19:57:29 JohnS -> but we can't see it unless your kid is our friend, right Sharon?
19:57:31 betchaboy -> maybe politicians and school administrators should have to have the same level of internet filtering as school do.
19:57:41 sharonp -> wow, these folks have been busy over the holidays!
19:58:04 JohnS -> bechaboy: in my school, they do. on purpose.
19:58:04 sharonp -> you know, it is tagged with MY name, so maybe if you are MY friend??
19:58:24 betchaboy -> really? how do they get anything done?
19:58:50 joyce seitzinger -> @betchaby and IT Administrators should limit themselves as well!
19:58:53 Gary -> Your Google calendar has two effects - allows you to know when something happens but makes you feel guilty if you miss.
19:58:58 JohnS -> If they don't live in the same world as the students and teachers, they don't understand the problems.
19:58:58 jeff -> http://evo08sessionscfp.pbwiki.com/
19:59:20 jeff -> http://www.bettshow.com/
19:59:32 JenM -> Consumer Electronic Show: http://www.cesweb.org/default.asp
19:59:33 sharonp -> I like being able to email myself reminders daily from the Google Calendar
19:59:42 betchaboy -> it's true, as an netadmin myself i often get a false inpression of what other network users can do... and my network was quite liberal
19:59:45 MizMercer -> Don't forget me!
20:00:00 jeff -> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cesweb.o...
20:00:16 sroseman -> MacWorld San Fran starts this week
20:00:17 Durff -> NOT
20:00:25 sharonp -> we gotta bribe someone goingn to BETT to UStream for us
20:00:30 joyce seitzinger -> *)
20:00:48 JenM -> All links we did or didn't get to talk about tonight: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080106
20:01:16 JenM -> Tag you links - for:edtechtalk within del.icio.us THANK YOU!!
20:01:26 JenM -> Tag youR links ...
20:01:42 lparisi -> Thank you.
20:01:44 joyce seitzinger -> thank you!
20:01:44 kjarrett -> Thanks all!
20:01:49 phil_g -> We love the live streams!
20:01:51 sroseman -> wow ..hanks
20:01:51 Durff -> clap clap
20:01:56 joyce seitzinger -> clap clap!
20:01:57 sroseman -> thanks
20:02:02 Durff -> gotta go sleep - bye all
20:02:05 Sarah S -> Great show - not too long! Filled with neat stuff
20:02:07 Gary -> Thanks
20:02:07 nzchrissy -> cool show
20:02:24 sharonp -> Great show - great interaction - good chat!
20:03:17 phil_g -> thanks for a great show!
20:03:46 jeff -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pbx
20:04:10 Cathy E -> What about edusim3D- what is the scoop on that?
20:04:29 MizMercer -> Local area tech group using breeze
20:05:17 MizMercer -> night all
20:05:42 jeff -> http://edusim3d.com/
20:06:22 JenM -> PVX: http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/video/desktop/pvx.html
20:06:47 sharonp -> they have mugs.... WOW2 has .... lipgloss
20:07:31 Cathy E -> go Dave- Go Dave
20:09:42 JohnS -> 409 now? Kinda jumping around, aren't you?
20:09:54 JenM -> :) ;) :)!!!!
20:10:06 JenM -> I'm laughing, but you can't hear me ....
20:10:56 JenM -> Jeff ... :)
20:11:24 JenM -> OH! Let's all go to Floriday!!
20:11:32 JenM -> and Florida, too!
20:11:45 Guest409 -> I love Florida in the winter
20:11:49 dave -> http://edtechtalk.com:5080/demos/simpleSubscriber.swf
20:11:52 Cathy E -> So glad I'm past visiting parks
20:11:54 JenM -> Hoboken
20:12:04 dave -> 30 sec
20:12:13 jeff -> http://edtechtalk.com:5080/demos/simpleSubscriber.swf
20:12:53 courosa -> cool, live dave!
20:13:16 JenM -> How about Dave jumping on treadmill ...
20:13:53 JenM -> That was soooo much fun!!!
20:13:58 sharonp -> Well! there is a special memory from January 6 2008!
20:15:27 JenM -> positivity?
20:15:32 ds -> great show gang, thanks -- have a great week all
20:15:37 JenM -> Change starts in NH!
20:15:50 techsavvygirl -> is there a different URL to "watch" dave's show
20:15:56 techsavvygirl -> perhaps I missed it
20:16:04 JenM -> he, he, he ....
20:16:08 JohnS -> davecormier.com
20:16:27 techsavvygirl -> thanks johns
20:16:54 sharonp -> Have a great week folks! Gotta get back to work! cheers!
20:19:21 JenM -> I'm muted
20:19:39 courosa -> me too
20:19:44 JenM -> nite all
20:19:47 courosa -> thanks everyone!
20:19:49 JenM -> see you next week!!!!!!!
20:19:51 JenM -> bye!!
20:19:54 Cathy E -> night
20:20:10 courosa -> thanks, was fun, had to take care of the little guy.
20:20:24 courosa -> gnite all