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Teachers Are Talking - Episode 20

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  • Length: 60:29 minutes (27.69 MB)
  • Format: MP3 Mono 44kHz 64Kbps (CBR)

Guests Jim Burke (founder of the English Companion ning)  and Maja Wilson (author of Rethinking Rubrics in Writing Assessment) joined us for some lively discussion.

 

2009-05-04 19:26:09 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Melissa
2009-05-04 19:26:21 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: Hi!  Saw your Twitter.
2009-05-04 19:26:21 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Melissa
2009-05-04 19:26:29 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Cool!
2009-05-04 19:26:32 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for coming in.
2009-05-04 19:26:41 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Sound is streaming on ETTA
2009-05-04 19:26:56 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: So we hit the UStream to hear right?  This is my 2nd EdTechTalk.
2009-05-04 19:27:09 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: No ustream tonight
2009-05-04 19:27:26 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hit ETTA on the right side of the page.  Pick any icon under EdTechTalk A
2009-05-04 19:27:48 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Meredith!
2009-05-04 19:29:01 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hello all
2009-05-04 19:29:01 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I can :)
2009-05-04 19:29:09 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Sound is on ETTA
2009-05-04 19:29:12 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Meredith
2009-05-04 19:29:16 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I hear Maya and Jim
2009-05-04 19:29:19 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: hi Jim
2009-05-04 19:29:22 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: It plays through iTunes?
2009-05-04 19:29:34 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I'm listening on Real Tunes
2009-05-04 19:29:35 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Yes
2009-05-04 19:29:39 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: ok
2009-05-04 19:29:47 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: sat through one in silence before
2009-05-04 19:29:48 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: :-)
2009-05-04 19:30:20 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: great to see you all here
2009-05-04 19:30:33 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: You are all loud and clear
2009-05-04 19:30:36 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: Help! I hear nothing. Click on the speaker.
2009-05-04 19:30:36 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: welcome everyone
2009-05-04 19:30:41 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: I can hear!
2009-05-04 19:30:54 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: I clicked on the speaker.
2009-05-04 19:31:10 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: techyturner - click on one of the icons under EDTEchTalk A
2009-05-04 19:31:15 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: I thought I was missing a big something.
2009-05-04 19:31:53 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome Jen
2009-05-04 19:32:11 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: I'm glad you now know there is sound here, Melissa. :)
2009-05-04 19:32:22 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks. Hi, everyone.
2009-05-04 19:32:27 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: here being a loose term :)
2009-05-04 19:32:54 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Jen!
2009-05-04 19:33:16 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, MsStewart!
2009-05-04 19:33:35 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Techyturner, do you need help getting sound?
2009-05-04 19:33:36 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: reminder for new people - click on one of the icons under EdTechTalk A to listen
2009-05-04 19:33:53 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Jim having doubts? :)
2009-05-04 19:34:24 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: Yes! I do!
2009-05-04 19:34:52 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: On the right side bar you can see teh words EdTechTalk A and EdTechTalk B above the ustream
2009-05-04 19:35:09 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Go to ETTA and click on any one of those icons under the words.
2009-05-04 19:35:14 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: That should give you sound.
2009-05-04 19:35:16 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: having doubts about ECN?! No way!
2009-05-04 19:35:25 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Peggy!
2009-05-04 19:35:29 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: Some of the growth has to be attributed to brand Jim Burke
2009-05-04 19:35:29 [Message] Dorie Glynn -> -EdTechTalk: finally got one to work-windows media
2009-05-04 19:35:33 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Lisa
2009-05-04 19:35:42 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Hi JenAnsbach...greatto see you there.
2009-05-04 19:35:47 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: I clicked on the first icon, opened PowerDVD. Clicked on the WMP opened it but nothing.
2009-05-04 19:36:05 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Try another icon.  I tend to use the second one.
2009-05-04 19:36:25 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, Jim. Thanks for having us!
2009-05-04 19:36:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: the first icon should open itunes
2009-05-04 19:36:36 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: Do you have windows media player or real audio?
2009-05-04 19:36:43 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: or iTunes
2009-05-04 19:36:47 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: me too :)
2009-05-04 19:37:41 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: Nings are so powerful!  People really help one another. Bounce ideas.  Sometimes better than those teachers right next door. 
2009-05-04 19:38:12 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: I'm in!  I had to use VLC.
2009-05-04 19:38:20 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Glad it worked for you.
2009-05-04 19:38:30 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: EC Ning is especially good. Folks really generous/charitable
2009-05-04 19:38:50 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: I think they are generous
2009-05-04 19:39:02 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: EC - Early Childhood???
2009-05-04 19:39:10 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: English Companion
2009-05-04 19:39:24 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: LOL - sorry
2009-05-04 19:39:50 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Ah!  I got disconnected and it won't let me call you back, Susan...
2009-05-04 19:39:57 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Twittering the chat. :-)
2009-05-04 19:40:14 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: You don't have to participate in all of the conversations in a Ning to get value from it.
2009-05-04 19:40:34 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Okay, I'm back!
2009-05-04 19:41:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It has helped a lot that Ning now offers a dashboard so you can access all of your Ning communities from one location.
2009-05-04 19:41:15 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: aclimating new members is important
2009-05-04 19:41:24 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Alice
2009-05-04 19:41:39 [Message] alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: HI, watcha nagging Sue to join for?
2009-05-04 19:41:59 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: She asked...I never nag.
2009-05-04 19:42:21 [Message] alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: I know. Topic?
2009-05-04 19:42:25 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: Would love to know how English teachers are feeling about the need to bring back teaching citations - since kids are getting so much information, images, media off the Internet.
2009-05-04 19:42:32 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sue--always love to have you in these conversations!!
2009-05-04 19:42:38 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Jim Burke and Maja Wilson talking about the English Companion Ning
2009-05-04 19:42:47 [Message] alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Crud, Almost time to pick up sone.
2009-05-04 19:42:52 [Message] alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Sorry to join and go
2009-05-04 19:43:05 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: We would have a book discussion about English Teacher's Companion of we could make Jim the companion to the Companion....
2009-05-04 19:43:36 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: the Ning is the new hot gig in town
2009-05-04 19:43:52 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sheila
2009-05-04 19:43:55 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: Keeping up ireally the trouble now isn't it?
2009-05-04 19:43:59 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: you don't have to keep up w/it all
2009-05-04 19:44:03 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think it's really important to have people who are nurturing and building the community within a Ning for it to be successful. It doesn't have to be one person but it will die if people aren't encouraged to participate and contribute.
2009-05-04 19:44:04 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: just jump in the stream
2009-05-04 19:44:18 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: I think ETC is too big and long to be for a discussion; the whole Ning is really the equivalent of that book club we might have!
2009-05-04 19:44:27 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: And drown or pick and choose what to join?
2009-05-04 19:44:38 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: either are options :)
2009-05-04 19:44:44 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Hi there!
2009-05-04 19:44:56 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sheila
2009-05-04 19:45:16 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: thx msstewart
2009-05-04 19:45:20 [Message] sheila -> -EdTechTalk: Hi PeggyG
2009-05-04 19:45:59 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: Would someone post the title of the book again?
2009-05-04 19:46:16 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: wondering what people sitting on have to say about EC Ning as new(er) teachers (tho I know you are feeling sensitive today about being called a 'new teacher' msstewart!)
2009-05-04 19:46:22 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: Rethinking Rubrics in Writing Assessment
2009-05-04 19:46:26 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: oops sorry everyone were you saying hi to me in chat? Was just responding to an important email - sorry
2009-05-04 19:46:32 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: James! Great to see you here.
2009-05-04 19:46:37 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: hello!
2009-05-04 19:47:30 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: So you all just hear us or do you see me?! (First time on Skype...)
2009-05-04 19:47:42 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Just sound, Jim
2009-05-04 19:47:45 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we just get to hear you Jim :-)
2009-05-04 19:47:56 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: no video :(
2009-05-04 19:48:02 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: I just took a look at the ning - don't think it is too big at all - many groups, so you can find one that suits..... I took a look at the PBL one and it looks good.
2009-05-04 19:48:03 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Oh man, and I put on my clean bathrobe for this...
2009-05-04 19:48:12 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: no video here either
2009-05-04 19:48:30 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: ditto...I didn't know I could get video...let me log onto skype
2009-05-04 19:48:56 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: There is no video.  Only audio here.
2009-05-04 19:49:08 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: ah - problem solved then!
2009-05-04 19:49:16 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm in many Nings but I don't "keep up" with all of them. I do follow specific conversations by receiving notices in my email when they have been updated. Great way to keep up with topics of interest.
2009-05-04 19:49:24 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: Does this book reflect on assessing blog writing?
2009-05-04 19:49:45 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: i'm listening to the edtech talk A and not hearing Jim
2009-05-04 19:50:02 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: He's not talking right now.  Now you hear Maja.
2009-05-04 19:50:07 [Message] techyturner -> -EdTechTalk: Interesting topic but I have to leave. Have a good evening/day. :)
2009-05-04 19:50:12 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I get new activity RSS feed from EC Ning in Google Reader. Works well.
2009-05-04 19:50:12 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: problem solved
2009-05-04 19:50:13 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Bye
2009-05-04 19:50:15 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: fred - you need to click on one of the icons to hear
2009-05-04 19:50:33 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: NOt sure what Maja would say. I was exchanging emails with Vicki Spandel last night about blogsa nd new forms of writing...question was whether writing is evolving and the qualities of it will...
2009-05-04 19:50:47 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: James, you have to select an icon below "EdTeckTalk A" on the right.
2009-05-04 19:50:50 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: @jmiscavish try clicking on one of the other icons
2009-05-04 19:51:16 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: sorry, i'm hearing STUFF - thought I Was supposed to be hearing jim - It's maja
2009-05-04 19:51:38 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: perhaps I should write a rubric for blogging...that would simplify things, right?
2009-05-04 19:51:38 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: @jmiscavish haha
2009-05-04 19:51:54 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: there are some rubics for blogging
2009-05-04 19:52:08 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Candace!
2009-05-04 19:52:11 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: I create rubrics for each blog.
2009-05-04 19:52:26 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: yeah, I was totally kidding...
2009-05-04 19:52:39 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: thanks again to maja for the pdf
2009-05-04 19:52:42 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Meredith! Are we chatting and listening or just chatting on this format? (I'm a lil confused!)
2009-05-04 19:52:48 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: I feel I need rubrics for use as a checklist.
2009-05-04 19:52:55 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: listening and chatting/liveblogging
2009-05-04 19:53:02 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: unfortunately but some do want the rubic
2009-05-04 19:53:12 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: Booyah!
2009-05-04 19:53:13 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: listening too
2009-05-04 19:53:18 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Yay!!
2009-05-04 19:53:25 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: Click on one of the icons under EdTechTalk A
2009-05-04 19:53:34 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Totally made my day, Jim!
2009-05-04 19:53:48 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: twitter has stolen my ecning time...sorry maja's book group  :(
2009-05-04 19:53:56 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: wow
2009-05-04 19:53:57 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Yep - working for me too!  Hi everyone - first time on and loving it :)
2009-05-04 19:55:26 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: like how they make all writing the same!
2009-05-04 19:55:29 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: I think it's all increasingly fluid, James---we move onto the ning, out into twitter, off to some other site, back into and out of it all. IT's all beginning to feel like one stream to me as I read what msstewart says on twitter and respond to it on Ning, and into email off-ning, etc. I think each is a different venue...
2009-05-04 19:55:48 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I'm gonna put originality on my rubrics from now on
2009-05-04 19:56:04 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @jimburke - yeah, I'm responding to a few discussions on the ning right now, actually
2009-05-04 19:56:49 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: I think we are all beginning to resemble those old switchboard ladies with a bazillion wires and we move into and out of different discusssions....
2009-05-04 19:56:59 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: great image
2009-05-04 19:57:07 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: That is exactly the power of the rubric. I think it helps the kids understand the project or task at hand.
2009-05-04 19:57:40 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: @Melissa Smith - Only if they actually read and understand them, ha!
2009-05-04 19:57:42 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: but for writing - it should reflect more on student growth
2009-05-04 19:57:47 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: wow, "take me out of myself"--rubric as  transcendent experience!
2009-05-04 19:58:22 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: why do I feel like a bad student passing notes at the back of the class as i t ype these notes while e.g., Maja talks?
2009-05-04 19:58:39 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: this is liveblogging at it's best Jim
2009-05-04 19:58:47 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Back channel chatter is very important, Jim.
2009-05-04 19:59:02 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Jim, think more "Twitter" and less "MST3K"
2009-05-04 19:59:10 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Don't feel bad, Jim--I'm doing it while you talk.  :-)
2009-05-04 19:59:13 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: @fred - ha!  i watched a teacher read it to 4th grade boys who all looked like deers in head lights - you do have to spice up the rubric and put it in kid language.  Teachers get so formal in the rubric that it can become foreign.
2009-05-04 19:59:16 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: MST3K?
2009-05-04 19:59:42 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: I occasionally throw out the rubrics and only add feedback in the form of questions to force certain kinds of revision
2009-05-04 19:59:43 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Mystery Science Theater 3000: comedy show with robots talking over bad sci-fi movies.
2009-05-04 19:59:49 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: got it
2009-05-04 20:00:00 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: hilarious show!
2009-05-04 20:00:12 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: we can hear you typing!
2009-05-04 20:00:28 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Throw in some subliminal messages, James!
2009-05-04 20:00:38 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: I guess back channels simply reflect what has always gone on internally during lectures but it becomes collaborative and creative?
2009-05-04 20:00:38 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: that noise is the new pencil tapping on the desk.
2009-05-04 20:00:42 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I was just thinking the same thing @jmiscavish
2009-05-04 20:00:51 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: That's me!!!
2009-05-04 20:01:05 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Need to look into NWP
2009-05-04 20:01:12 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: NWP?
2009-05-04 20:01:17 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: teachers I know in VA say the Writing Proj has been best PD
2009-05-04 20:01:28 [Message] fred_haas -> -EdTechTalk: National Writing Project is a pretty transformative experience, no doubt
2009-05-04 20:01:35 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Ah thanks
2009-05-04 20:01:41 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: you would love the NWP Meredith and would bring a lot to it. Great NWPs down the Carolinas
2009-05-04 20:01:51 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Natl Writing Project http://www.nwp.org/
2009-05-04 20:01:55 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I wish NWP was closer to where I live. Far daily commute for a month for me.
2009-05-04 20:02:06 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I've been invited to NWP 2 summers in a row, but it's at a bad time for me and my family
2009-05-04 20:02:16 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: back channel's utility and purpose depends on audience - seen lots of "academic disdain" in some younger users.....
2009-05-04 20:02:19 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: Summer after next I'm doing it for sure
2009-05-04 20:02:32 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: 'academic disdain'?
2009-05-04 20:02:38 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: @jmiscavish - me too, if I can get in
2009-05-04 20:02:52 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I think I'd be HORRIBLE during a church back channel twitter
2009-05-04 20:03:10 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: agreed - back channel can be a tough critical wake up but I guess also a real time feedback tool for testing engagement!
2009-05-04 20:03:12 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: kids on devices where whole convo is "you going to the dance?"
2009-05-04 20:03:51 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Have you seen this @jmiscavish http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1895463,00.html
2009-05-04 20:04:11 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: Best compliment about EC Ning (from Fran Claggett, early leader with NWP): "The EC Ning is the most important development within the profession since the NWP."
2009-05-04 20:04:22 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: sweet
2009-05-04 20:04:36 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: and, yes, I have seen that - that's what made me think about it
2009-05-04 20:05:09 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: this is like the 'can't teach what you don't do' discussion
2009-05-04 20:05:21 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: We did a book talk thing on a school ning - it didn't take off as well - they should have done  the book talks in EC Ning - more conversations!
2009-05-04 20:05:23 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Just finished reading 'They Say, I say' - templating can really help I think in scaffolding good writing
2009-05-04 20:05:53 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: my math teacher friend mocks how much we write on the EC Ning
2009-05-04 20:05:58 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: HAHA - how hasn't it?
2009-05-04 20:06:05 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: We could do equations instead...
2009-05-04 20:06:16 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I'm helping dozens of new teachers get themselves going
2009-05-04 20:06:20 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: especially in tech
2009-05-04 20:06:28 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Jim feels like he is surrounded by the buzzing of the hive and can't hear himself think
2009-05-04 20:06:38 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: it would be wrong if the EC Ning didn't have a lot of writing!
2009-05-04 20:06:40 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: lulz - I called it
2009-05-04 20:07:12 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Maja, I can't do equations. I'm not good at "right answers" :-)
2009-05-04 20:07:16 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: mike umphrey has really challenged a lot of my views on literature
2009-05-04 20:07:28 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: umphrey is amazing
2009-05-04 20:07:30 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: I can't do them either...
2009-05-04 20:07:36 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: all his responses are poetry
2009-05-04 20:08:01 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: so long as I get my residual check
2009-05-04 20:08:08 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Michael rocks!
2009-05-04 20:08:12 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: must tell fellow librarians about the ning - tons of good stuff there
2009-05-04 20:08:21 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: we want Jim to still be able to support his fam :)
2009-05-04 20:08:36 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I would NEVER give up the books. Ning is blocked at school!
2009-05-04 20:08:41 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Agreed that ECNing is amazing. When combined w/twitter, has helped me get over feeling like I was on an island!
2009-05-04 20:08:51 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Planning to buy a couple books this summer, Jim. :)
2009-05-04 20:09:24 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: i'm ordering letters to a new teacher
2009-05-04 20:09:27 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: We're all on an island, Mrs. Follis. We're just there together. :-)
2009-05-04 20:09:50 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: A tribe on the island?
2009-05-04 20:09:55 [Message] Melissa Smith -> -EdTechTalk: 5 yr old requesting coloring partner - Bye
2009-05-04 20:09:56 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Great read
2009-05-04 20:10:27 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, but we're grown ups. We'll work together and enjoy the paradise, not kill each other. :-)
2009-05-04 20:10:39 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I hope I don't get voted out
2009-05-04 20:10:44 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: You won't vote me off if I don't vote you off, then?
2009-05-04 20:10:51 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: (teaching [u]Lord of the Flies[/u])
2009-05-04 20:10:55 [Message] mtechman -> -EdTechTalk: have to go  - bye all, bye Sue!
2009-05-04 20:11:02 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Robinson's The Element http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1895463,00.html
2009-05-04 20:11:07 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Not voted off--waiting for rescue!!
2009-05-04 20:11:08 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Grrr no
2009-05-04 20:11:15 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: how long is this, btw? I do have some work to do tonight - planning
2009-05-04 20:11:26 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: You can't leave now, James...
2009-05-04 20:11:33 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Here's the right link for the Element http://www.amazon.com/Element-Finding-Passion-Changes-Everything/dp/0670...
2009-05-04 20:11:46 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: I had an interesting summer read issue today
2009-05-04 20:11:46 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: We finish at 8:30
2009-05-04 20:11:50 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: EDT
2009-05-04 20:11:51 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Furious typing, lol.
2009-05-04 20:12:12 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: like in 20mins? 8:30 eastern?
2009-05-04 20:12:23 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Yup.
2009-05-04 20:12:23 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: yes
2009-05-04 20:12:27 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: thanx
2009-05-04 20:12:36 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Maja, I had to give a PD workshop on 6 traits to non-believers; I used your book to make the point that they didn't have to agree and had good company. Just knowing your book exists made people feel better about required rubrics.
2009-05-04 20:13:01 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: i'm still not quite sold on 6 traits
2009-05-04 20:13:09 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: :-)
2009-05-04 20:13:18 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: why put writing into little boxes? 
2009-05-04 20:13:18 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: I use 6 traits...really like the idea.
2009-05-04 20:13:25 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: However, what else would I teach?
2009-05-04 20:13:33 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: find it easy to teach younger children that way.
2009-05-04 20:13:49 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: link for 'English Teacher's Companion ' please (UK based if poss) :)
2009-05-04 20:14:01 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: it's like a garden
2009-05-04 20:14:09 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: http://englishcompanion.ning.com/
2009-05-04 20:14:19 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Thankyou :)
2009-05-04 20:14:19 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: how does a rubric address the student who continually misspells the same word
2009-05-04 20:14:23 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Barbara
2009-05-04 20:14:28 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: hi
2009-05-04 20:14:42 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: i don't hear anything
2009-05-04 20:14:48 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I see it as giving students language to discuss writing. I prep kids to take state grad test and state uses rubric that we're mandated to use, too.
2009-05-04 20:14:49 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I believe that is conventions @aprogers
2009-05-04 20:14:59 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: Click on icon under EdTechTalk A
2009-05-04 20:15:13 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: sorry, google analytics, you have not tracked me in two years - *mr. burns laugh*
2009-05-04 20:15:22 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Twitter keeps driving conversation back to the Ning.
2009-05-04 20:15:27 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: :) yes but a rubric doesn't penalize them so that they stop
2009-05-04 20:15:43 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Is penalty the only way to get students to improve?
2009-05-04 20:15:54 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: twitter great way to highlight convos on the Ning
2009-05-04 20:16:08 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: KG is hardcore
2009-05-04 20:16:15 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Audience seems to help more than penalizing, IMHO
2009-05-04 20:16:21 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I loved Readicide.
2009-05-04 20:16:32 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: @jmiscavish no one is hard core compared to you :)
2009-05-04 20:16:36 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: not my point
2009-05-04 20:16:39 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @aprogers, then stop grading the papers until they get it right - an F until they revise
2009-05-04 20:16:43 [Message] lmelfi -> -EdTechTalk:  Lisa, with what age group are you using 6 Traits?
2009-05-04 20:16:54 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: 10 year olds...fifth grade
2009-05-04 20:17:09 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: yeah, I'm beastin over here
2009-05-04 20:17:24 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: seeing that list was really daunting
2009-05-04 20:17:26 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: and then they do it again on the next paper
2009-05-04 20:17:32 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: What's after readicide? I missed it.
2009-05-04 20:17:37 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Jim def gets less sleep than I need
2009-05-04 20:17:50 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Holding ONto Good Ideas In a Time of Bad Ones, Tom Newkirk
2009-05-04 20:17:52 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @aprogers, keep giving them Fs until it reflects on them that they need to proofread
2009-05-04 20:17:55 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I don't give an F until they revise; I give no credit and return it. If they don't fix it and resubmit same paper, then F.
2009-05-04 20:17:57 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I still need to do that exercise
2009-05-04 20:18:37 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @jen - that's good, too
2009-05-04 20:18:48 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: but, if using rubrics how to justify to parents
2009-05-04 20:19:04 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: yey - just joined the ning - looks very cool - there goes another nights sleep!
2009-05-04 20:19:39 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: I've had very few turned back in ....they just accept the low grade
2009-05-04 20:19:46 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: #andyfisher - Well worth the time! Imagine what can be done this summer as everyone revamps curriculum!
2009-05-04 20:19:52 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: lol - justify? Show them the essays - all of them - with the errors
2009-05-04 20:19:59 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I skyped w/ Karen Labonte's class b/c of the Ning
2009-05-04 20:20:11 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: I love Karen!!
2009-05-04 20:20:29 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I remember! You didn't sound like a cartoon!
2009-05-04 20:20:41 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: I had no idea she taught at Columbia until after the class. I was a little freaked out :)
2009-05-04 20:20:51 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @aprogers - could just do more and more drafts
2009-05-04 20:21:12 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: until they get it right
2009-05-04 20:21:20 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: when does the next book group start
2009-05-04 20:21:31 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: junish
2009-05-04 20:21:42 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Yay Ning get-together
2009-05-04 20:21:42 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: a get together? seriously?
2009-05-04 20:21:48 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: #imrsf yes - roll on the summer - I am pulling another day's work each night at the moment - just built my blog, learning podcasting - steepest learning curve of my life but I am loving every minute of it :)
2009-05-04 20:21:53 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: next book group for Kelly's book starts around June 1
2009-05-04 20:21:56 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: jmiscavish is SO jealous
2009-05-04 20:22:04 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: come!
2009-05-04 20:22:07 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Karen is amazing! One of my many adopted mentors online. (I adopted them, with or without permission! ha)
2009-05-04 20:22:18 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @andy - good luck - going edtech is freaking sweet
2009-05-04 20:22:22 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: when and where is it?
2009-05-04 20:22:27 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: at NCTE
2009-05-04 20:22:32 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: LOL love that adopting of online mentors without permission
2009-05-04 20:22:39 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: What a great list of people here with us...I wish I could see you all!
2009-05-04 20:23:00 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: I'm going to NCTE this year!
2009-05-04 20:23:03 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: no you don't I didn't a chance to shower after the gym :)
2009-05-04 20:23:09 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: yes I am!
2009-05-04 20:23:23 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: Yay! Can't wait to meet you Jen
2009-05-04 20:23:23 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: #jmiscavish - good to be here!  Next stop Second Life - goodbye early nights!
2009-05-04 20:23:37 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Same here!
2009-05-04 20:23:40 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Are we "backchanneling" wrong?
2009-05-04 20:23:42 [Message] lmelfi -> -EdTechTalk: I love that I can just listen and gather resources. I have five different tabs open        with all of the books
2009-05-04 20:23:52 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: no the old folks just don't understand
2009-05-04 20:23:56 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: no there are no rule to backchanneling
2009-05-04 20:23:56 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: yeah, really?  I'm awesome at backchanneling...
2009-05-04 20:23:59 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: i have kids chat in class sometimes
2009-05-04 20:24:03 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Not saying it's wrong...just surprised that it is new to so many.
2009-05-04 20:24:17 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: I'm not such a young folk and I get it!
2009-05-04 20:24:22 [Message] Sue Waters -> -EdTechTalk: excpet to be polite in backchannel
2009-05-04 20:24:23 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: when and where is the ncte ning get together?
2009-05-04 20:24:25 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I have 2!
2009-05-04 20:24:36 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: no Ning for me b/c kids are under 12 :(
2009-05-04 20:24:44 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: violates ToS
2009-05-04 20:24:57 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: I heart the class ning.
2009-05-04 20:25:03 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: is this audio going to be archived?  I've got to save Jim Burke dropping my name...
2009-05-04 20:25:13 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: lol James
2009-05-04 20:25:16 [Message] Susan -> -EdTechTalk: audio will be archived
2009-05-04 20:25:21 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: @jmis yes
2009-05-04 20:25:22 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: sweet
2009-05-04 20:25:36 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Yes it will be archived
2009-05-04 20:25:42 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: zach greinke is a freak...go royals
2009-05-04 20:25:51 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: sounds like 'Little Brother' - next step - gait detectors!!
2009-05-04 20:26:37 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: i forgot your name was meredith...I get so used to handles
2009-05-04 20:26:40 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: yes, it's archived, James, but not sure how. Through iTunes?
2009-05-04 20:26:55 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: I think so, my comp opened itunes to listen
2009-05-04 20:27:26 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: wouldn't want teachers to actually think :)
2009-05-04 20:27:34 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: somebody must have gone outside...
2009-05-04 20:27:42 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: good pt to bring up maja
2009-05-04 20:27:44 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: I try to think as little as possible
2009-05-04 20:27:55 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: i love Jim's high tech w/ low tech ideas
2009-05-04 20:28:04 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: NO!
2009-05-04 20:28:11 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: This was awesome.
2009-05-04 20:28:13 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Me too, Meredith! I use them whenever possible.
2009-05-04 20:28:16 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Great opportunity - thanks
2009-05-04 20:28:30 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you, everyone!
2009-05-04 20:28:37 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: I saw the tweet
2009-05-04 20:28:41 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: i missed the full first half hour
2009-05-04 20:28:45 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: me too
2009-05-04 20:28:52 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: stupid 'yard work'
2009-05-04 20:28:57 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Me too, james. Was this a one time deal?
2009-05-04 20:29:05 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: no thank you, jim!
2009-05-04 20:29:14 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah - a regular time to look out for?
2009-05-04 20:29:30 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: @aprogers, hope you get your rubric issues sorted out - join the englishcompanion.ning.com for more help - people will have ideas
2009-05-04 20:29:42 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: sarah, you're too late
2009-05-04 20:29:43 [Message] aprogers -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks, I am a member
2009-05-04 20:29:45 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone!
2009-05-04 20:29:46 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: see you all on the Ning later!
2009-05-04 20:29:49 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: it's almost over
2009-05-04 20:29:51 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: your welcome!
2009-05-04 20:29:56 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: you're welcome!
2009-05-04 20:30:01 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: James is a ning master, eh? :)
2009-05-04 20:30:03 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: one of those two...
2009-05-04 20:30:09 [Message] Jim Burke -> -EdTechTalk: lol, James, I wasn't going to correct your YOUR
2009-05-04 20:30:11 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: who helped you?
2009-05-04 20:30:13 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: don't inflate his head anymore
2009-05-04 20:30:32 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: ::D
2009-05-04 20:30:43 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: :D
2009-05-04 20:30:51 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: i won't be able to fit through the door, soon
2009-05-04 20:31:15 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: http://teachersaretalking.blogspot.com/
2009-05-04 20:31:20 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Wow!  All this immortalized!
2009-05-04 20:31:30 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: this is terrific
2009-05-04 20:31:33 [Message] barbara phillips -> -EdTechTalk: i will be back
2009-05-04 20:31:34 [Message] majawilson -> -EdTechTalk: Even your misspelling, James!
2009-05-04 20:31:39 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Will be here more often - really looking forward to it
2009-05-04 20:31:45 [Message] lisaparisi -> -EdTechTalk: Good night.
2009-05-04 20:31:53 [Message] andyfisher -> -EdTechTalk: Good night :)
2009-05-04 20:31:57 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: that was fun!
2009-05-04 20:32:04 [Message] jmiscavish -> -EdTechTalk: keep it real edtechtalk
2009-05-04 20:32:07 [Message] imrsf -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Jim!!!
2009-05-04 20:32:13 [Message] msstewart -> -EdTechTalk: peace out (as my 6th gr would say)
2009-05-04 20:32:23 [Message] JenAnsbach -> -EdTechTalk: Good night!



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