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18:47:40  JohnS -> Hey, all. We'll be streaming in a couple minutes.
18:50:00  JenM -> doah!
18:56:11  alicemercer -> Hello all
18:56:29  JenM -> hi, alice!
18:56:32  alicemercer -> I'm listening!
18:56:51  alicemercer -> So go ahead dave, do something embarrassing
18:57:02  alicemercer -> No echo from me
18:57:05  alicemercer -> for me
18:57:14  alicemercer -> a POS?
18:57:41  alicemercer -> I've looked at it. It's not that easy to work for kids
18:57:46  alicemercer -> I've used it with my son
18:58:03  alicemercer -> JS: that's WRONG!
18:58:20  alicemercer -> Cause the kid is designing it from scratch
18:58:28  alicemercer -> With teh designer
18:58:36  alicemercer -> Then they order the parts, BUT Jenn
18:58:42  alicemercer -> it does nto work well
18:59:07  alicemercer -> Hey, can we ship it to me at NECC? then we could wear them there?
18:59:11  alicemercer -> $15
19:00:11  alicemercer -> Also, my son gets kits of LEGO (bioncle), he and his cousins usually recombine parts from kits to make their own creations, and tehre is a whole section of LEGO.com where kids share what they come up with that is UNIQUE
19:00:17  alicemercer -> not just he kit ones
19:00:23  alicemercer -> AVOIDING ME JOHN!
19:00:43  alicemercer -> I can ask Leroy to talk about Legos if you want?
19:00:55  alicemercer -> Any twitter links?
19:01:15  alicemercer -> lots of hashtags action on NECC
19:01:38  JenniferW -> JenW in the building!!!
19:01:43  mrsdurff -> audio good
19:01:45  alicemercer -> I was going to suggest group tweet
19:01:45  loonyhiker -> audio sounds good to me
19:01:46  JenM -> hey ... ETTers!
19:01:47  alicemercer -> Good audio
19:01:49  Alvin Trusty -> everything sounds good
19:01:49  JenniferW -> are we talking NEXT Sunday from NECC
19:01:52  alicemercer -> Can't see hairdo
19:02:02  alicemercer -> mohawk?
19:02:03  loonyhiker -> no hairdo :(
19:02:21  alicemercer -> GAG ME!
19:02:30  JenniferW -> I mean -- are you guys going to have a show next week FROM NECC??
19:02:31  loonyhiker -> i see someones desktop
19:02:49  mrsdurff -> is there audio/video with dimdim?
19:02:49  JenniferW -> <----does not watch the VIDEO even during the show   :)
19:02:59  alicemercer -> Who having a show?
19:03:16  JenniferW -> just wondering where to be next Sunday -- will there be a ETT??
19:03:18  loonyhiker -> i'd like to see how dimdim works
19:03:24  mrsdurff -> sounds like alice
19:03:29  alicemercer -> It's JL anniversary and he will be gone
19:03:43  JenniferW -> so LIisa -- did you bring your pageflakes back??
19:03:44  alicemercer -> ETT is during the Keynote at NECC...
19:03:45  mrsdurff -> hi lorna
19:03:51  mrsdurff -> no jen
19:04:01  alicemercer -> I'm seeing the chat screen on Ustream box?
19:04:02  JenniferW -> next week is Lebow's anniversary??
19:04:03  mrsdurff -> but see alice's netvibes
19:04:03  Lorna -> Hello everyone
19:04:10  alicemercer -> Oh, you saw that?
19:04:15  alicemercer -> Thanks Lisa!
19:04:21  dave -> http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h9kqGvkVPSvo-KNWFDWAg-mVfleg
19:04:31  mrsdurff -> yes and i put the link in my blog post
19:04:40  alicemercer -> Well, she CAN"T in USA
19:04:43  alicemercer -> under 14
19:04:47  JenniferW -> NOWAY
19:04:53  JenniferW -> NO WAY
19:05:07  mrsdurff -> ooo - bad girl
19:05:14  alicemercer -> TOS says you have to be 14 in US
19:05:14  mrsdurff -> smart girl
19:05:16  JenniferW -> a parent was overruled by the courts???  that makes me sad in SOOOO many ways
19:05:30  alicemercer -> ONLY in Canada
19:05:46  mrsdurff -> hi jason
19:05:48  JohnS -> probably not, alice.
19:05:52  JasonR -> Hello
19:05:56  JenniferW -> THAT is what makes me sad --- that it went to COURT
19:06:11  JenniferW -> think of what kind of person that GIRL might just become due to this
19:06:14  JenM -> Firefox: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7462900.stm
19:06:18  mrsdurff -> it worked dave
19:06:30  loonyhiker -> parents can't be totally blamed then for not disciplining their children if the courts tell them they can't
19:06:32  alicemercer -> Well, I mean LEGALLY, couldn't fly here, violates COOPPA
19:06:35  JenniferW -> literally -- I am stunned -  very very stunned
19:07:06  mrsdurff -> it is a news story jen
19:07:10  JenniferW -> can we go back to 1976 and I can take my parents to court??  Grins, I might have turned out very different
19:07:13  JenniferW -> 'differently
19:07:22  mrsdurff -> sensationised
19:07:25  JenniferW -> <-------I did drink the FF 3.0 koolaid
19:07:30  JenniferW -> admit it -- I did
19:07:31  alicemercer -> Hey, bad week for Canada in the news. School sent a child protection report about a parent becuase school aide went to a psychic who said a student was being molested
19:07:32  Scott Shelhart -> Super fast and no crashes for me.  I LOVE it.
19:07:38  Lorna -> IS the stream on?
19:07:45  alicemercer -> I used to think they were progressive...not pathetic
19:07:51  Lorna -> I keep dropping ustream
19:07:54  JenniferW -> but not until Friday
19:08:05  JenniferW -> but my computer keeps freezing
19:08:12  alicemercer -> I'm doing live blogging with cover it live, and that only works in FF 2.0, so I'm waiting till after NECC
19:08:18  JL -> http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/06/18/vulnerability-in-mozilla-...
19:08:27  JenniferW -> AND -- my ADDRESS bar is not updating to all the right addresses -- it gets stuck on ONE url address on all tabs
19:08:34  JenniferW -> but delicious is working
19:08:35  mrsdurff -> FF2 crashed 2x's today on me
19:08:38  dave -> http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/06/18/vulnerability-in-mozilla-...
19:08:47  JenniferW -> I crashed today -- didn't attirbute it to FF3 -- maybe I should
19:08:55  JenniferW -> I just thought the WIKI was acting up
19:09:18  JL -> http://blog.screencast.com/2008/06/the-new-screencastcom.html
19:09:19  alicemercer -> Here is the psychic molestation link: http://awaitingtenure.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/canadian-psychic-accuses-...
19:09:24  JenniferW -> If I freeze during this time -- should I attribute it to FF3??
19:09:43  mrsdurff -> hi debbie
19:09:47  JenniferW -> Hey Guest 276!!!! is in the building
19:09:53  Debbie -> Hi there! *grin*
19:09:54  alicemercer -> Hi debbie
19:10:11  mrsdurff -> welcome to the chaos
19:10:13  alicemercer -> Your dh is saying ridiculous stuff about LEGOs
19:10:14  JenniferW -> ar you on SKYPE, Deb.  I have something to show you!!!
19:10:39  JohnS -> Free presentation resources for students & teachers!: http://etc.usf.edu/presentations/index.html
19:10:43  Debbie -> @JenW I'm not on my own computer, I'm on laptop #3 or #4 that JohnS brought home...
19:10:51  JenniferW -> LOL
19:10:54  JasonR -> Hi
19:10:55  JenniferW -> well....I will show you later
19:11:02  Debbie -> Legos?  Don't get him started on Legos...
19:11:13  JenniferW -> Nice plug on my blog BTW, Guest 276
19:11:15  alicemercer -> Deb, do your kids do LEGOs?
19:11:30  JenniferW -> I want a small commission please   :)
19:11:44  Debbie -> @alicemercer Of course!  He had them playing Legos when they were 1 - just really really BIG ones.
19:11:54  JenniferW -> has TOS ever stopped us???
19:12:01  dave -> http://www.diigo.com/annotated/522d8a4b8a99975c2c3ed06f925eb6c9
19:12:09  JenniferW -> I mean -- look at Google Docs TOS and no one acknowledges it
19:12:12  alicemercer -> Well, he seems to have really fixed ideas on what constitutes a worthwhile LEGO project
19:12:46  JenniferW -> NO -- really????
19:12:47  Debbie -> @alice Yes, and when the "projects" are complete, I'm not allowed to destruct them for weeks.
19:12:56  mrsdurff -> hi sharon
19:13:03  sharonp -> HI all
19:13:06  JohnS -> @Jdub we do try to at least abide by use restrictions.
19:13:24  JenniferW -> @JohnS --- truly???  with google docs TOS??
19:13:24  sharonp -> Wow, my last ETT weekly for a while
19:13:38  alicemercer -> He doesn't like "sets" that are objects because they stymie creativity, which is NOT my experience with son.
19:13:47  sharonp -> was there a link for what Dave is talking about??
19:13:49  JasonR -> http://penny-arcade.com/2008/6/18/#news_22519 LEGO and Kellogg's team up to teach kids how to choke.
19:13:50  mrsdurff -> how long will you be gone Sharon?
19:14:01  JenniferW -> Sharon -- are you going somewhere???
19:14:04  JenniferW -> :)
19:14:13  alicemercer -> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080620133907.htm
19:14:21  Debbie -> @alice We have only loose legos, no set.  But then again, we have girls who are not as interested in creating specific items as some boys might be.
19:14:31  sharonp -> so funny, Jen!
19:14:37  Debbie -> @SharonP WHen do you leave for Africa?
19:14:46  sharonp -> I leave for Africa on Thursday
19:14:50  sharonp -> EEK!!
19:14:52  JohnS -> SEE?! She agrees with me (for once) :-)
19:14:54  dave -> wow... nice plug of your research jen!
19:15:03  alicemercer -> If he had a boy, or a lego nut in the family he'd understand IT JUST DOESN'T matter
19:15:07  sharonp -> Jen is writing on backchanneling - feel scooped!
19:15:10  JenniferW -> how much STUDY do you need to have to prove the validity of something???
19:15:18  mrsdurff -> and sharon how long will you be there?
19:15:25  sharonp -> almost 7 weeks
19:15:26  JenniferW -> I mean -- how long would you have to study to prove a trend??
19:15:38  dave -> @jenniferW it depends on who you are trying to prove it to
19:15:40  sharonp -> how long or how many?
19:15:41  mrsdurff -> wow!
19:15:43  alicemercer -> I use diigo
19:15:48  alicemercer -> ACK!
19:15:49  JenniferW -> smiles -- just wondering............  :)
19:16:11  mrsdurff -> that's is a lot of packing
19:16:16  JasonR -> I can import them into a program called Scrivener and highlight/annotate from there. Mac only.
19:16:16  JenniferW -> I am just wondering
19:16:17  sharonp -> am alsomt panicking about what needs to get done between now and Thsuday
19:16:19  mrsdurff -> hi jeff mason
19:16:28  JenniferW -> no picking a fight -- just wondering what constitutes a TRUE study??
19:16:37  JenniferW -> what do you think they would want???  
19:16:38  sharonp -> I agree with DAve
19:16:48  alicemercer -> Well, don't show them that court case from Canada, lol!
19:16:53  sharonp -> have to show several studies from reputable peeps
19:16:57  Debbie -> @alice I can see both sides.  Sets would be useful for creating something specific which would be played with creatively.  But sets aren't creative building, really.
19:17:05  mrsdurff -> a study that is repeatable jen
19:17:14  sharonp -> which is why it is so impt to document our successes (and failures)
19:17:16  JenniferW -> Like the study Jen is talking about -- I wonder how much they studied to prove this
19:17:21  JenniferW -> just truly wondering............
19:17:23  alicemercer -> Debbie, my experience, they build it once, then they recombo and make their own.
19:17:28  Debbie -> @sharonP It will all get done.  No worries!
19:17:29  JenniferW -> not being argumentative -- just truly wondering
19:17:45  loonyhiker -> JW: I thought it was a good question
19:17:46  sharonp -> Jen, have more on laptop studies if you are intersted - some new stuff from QC
19:17:56  mrsdurff -> then it is not research based
19:17:59  JasonR -> Even with brain scans?
19:18:02  JenniferW -> Loonyhiker -- actually I was asking JENM --- :)  for her study
19:18:05  Debbie -> @alice Ah...the friends I know who have boys build the item and leave it built, some even glue it.  SO it's a different experience.
19:18:12  JasonR -> Ah, I see what Dave is saying
19:18:21  sharonp -> always agreeing with Dave
19:18:22  JenniferW -> I wasn't being argumentative
19:18:24  alicemercer -> My guys, recombo, whole section of LEGO site where they post
19:18:24  mrsdurff -> you wouldn't - yet
19:18:27  JL -> http://www.thejournal.com/articles/22786
19:18:28  JasonR -> You can't unlearn how to ride a bike
19:18:37  loonyhiker -> @JW but I like to see other ppl ask questions that are wandering around my own mind :)
19:18:41  mrsdurff -> i could jason
19:18:42  sharonp -> very difficult to measure this stuff
19:18:52  JenniferW -> Thank you Loony -- I like reading other people's minds   :)
19:18:53  alicemercer -> "Back in the day..."
19:18:56  dave -> @jenniferW i thought it was a great question
19:18:56  JenM -> Flickr founders depart Yahoo: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/17/flickr-co-founders-join-mass-exodus...
19:19:03  Debbie -> Hi Alvin. (-:
19:19:08  dave -> i should have explained myself better
19:19:12  JenniferW -> @dave -- thanks.  I kinda thought you thought I was picking a fight
19:19:14  sharonp -> you know, it sometimes comes down to the teachers' perception s of whetehr learning is happening
19:19:17  Alvin Trusty -> hi Debbie
19:19:20  JasonR -> Founder of del.icio.us too has left
19:19:34  JenniferW -> has left what?? 
19:19:35  JenniferW -> :)
19:19:39  loonyhiker -> where r all these ppl going tho?
19:19:41  mrsdurff -> left flickr
19:19:42  JasonR -> has left Yahoo
19:19:51  Debbie -> @Alvin I discovered another new Ohio Historical Marker nearby today.  Have to go on a photo capture mission soon!
19:20:06  mrsdurff -> picasa
19:20:08  JenniferW -> hmmmmmm  John Pederson linked to a short video by some guy that left Yahoo
19:20:09  Alvin Trusty -> more than 100 Yahoo execs have left in the last year
19:20:11  JasonR -> @loonyhiker good question. Maybe they will make Web 3.0
19:20:11  JenniferW -> same person???
19:20:28  JenniferW -> Ahhh Loony ---- LOL, you didn't give me time to ask that  :) :)
19:20:32  alicemercer -> Lots of takeover stuff at Yahoo, (Ichan, or Kerkorian is trying to kick out Jerry Yang).
19:20:40  JL -> http://screennation.afi.com/
19:20:44  alicemercer -> Can't remember which VC guy
19:20:45  JasonR -> There's an inbox?
19:20:53  JenniferW -> I think FF is crashing
19:20:55  alicemercer -> Screenation is great, but NO UNDER 14
19:21:02  JL -> http://edubloggerdir.blogspot.com/2008/01/events-calendar.html
19:21:16  JenniferW -> ett has an email address???
19:21:39  mrsdurff -> yup
19:21:47  JenniferW -> and how do we get links to you???  :)
19:21:53  JohnS -> The Associated Press to Set Guidelines for Using Its Articles in Blogs : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/business/media/16ap.html?_r=3&oref=slo...
19:22:09  JenniferW -> If I quote JS -- do I have to pay $7.50 for 24 words
19:22:14  Debbie -> To get them links: for:edtechtalk in delicious
19:22:25  JenniferW -> of course -- the educational cost
19:22:26  mrsdurff -> he may charge you more jen
19:22:42  JenniferW -> twitter will change a lot when people start charging --
19:22:42  JasonR -> Anyone stopped bloggin AP articles?
19:22:53  JenniferW -> @JasonR -- never did in the first place   :)
19:22:56  Debbie -> @JenW Cost could be offset for entertaining the wife most nights, so it'll be even. (-:
19:23:06  alicemercer -> Drudge, hmm he usually adds something (not always savory) to the news.
19:23:07  JasonR -> I had an opportunity to this week and decided not to.
19:23:08  mrsdurff -> don't want to do that anyway jason
19:23:12  loonyhiker -> @jasonr i never did it either
19:23:22  JenniferW -> Twitter will change a lot when people have to put in the CC info first before typing
19:23:30  dave -> http://www.watchknow.org/#3.%20Participation
19:23:43  JenniferW -> OH, I got this email today too
19:23:43  JasonR -> Anyone look at the byline when blogging a news item to see its origin?
19:23:55  JenniferW -> @JasonR  --- I always do
19:24:00  JenniferW -> but I used to be a journalist
19:24:05  JenniferW -> so I like to write the author too
19:24:13  JenniferW -> bylines are important to me
19:24:16  sharonp -> yes, got same email too
19:24:17  Debbie -> @JasonR I certainly do!  There's too much bogus out there not to check sources...
19:24:28  mrsdurff -> hi josteen
19:24:35  JohnS -> @Jdub my stuff is cc
19:24:36  loonyhiker -> i like to say who the author is too
19:24:40  josteen -> hi all
19:24:55  JenniferW -> @JohnS -- LOL, ahhhh I was going to put a check in the mail to you tomorrow -- guess I can tear it up
19:24:57  mrsdurff -> jen i'll charge
19:25:00  sharonp -> I would be interested, not so much thinking my new school would be interesteted
19:25:11  sharonp -> oh, US only
19:25:14  sharonp -> how exclusive
19:25:17  mrsdurff -> it will cost decaf colombian + dark chocolate
19:25:25  JenniferW -> @sharonp -- you are finally getting it -- EVERYTHING is US
19:25:37  JenniferW -> is there anyplace outside of US??  :)
19:25:42  sharonp -> it is so all bout YOU
19:25:54  Debbie -> US = us = everyone
19:25:56  JenniferW -> it is about US  :) 
19:26:00  alicemercer -> Hmm, SEVA is the biggie, is this one more CC oriented?
19:26:00  JenniferW -> Debbie got it ---
19:26:03  JenniferW -> YEAH DEBBIE
19:26:08  JasonR -> Our local education channel runs a series called High School Idol. Broadcast the kids signing on cable access. Neat enough.
19:26:09  JenniferW -> it is about US
19:26:17  JenniferW -> didn't say USA -- I said US
19:26:27  sharonp -> LOL
19:26:33  JenniferW -> she got it
19:26:35  JenniferW -> pshew
19:26:39  JenM -> How Stephen does "it" - OLDaily, that is ... (WARNING IT auto-STARTS): http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2008/06/oldaily-production.html
19:26:39  alicemercer -> Jason: is that SEVA (cause cable in classroom folks I think do that)
19:26:49  JasonR -> http://www.theedchannel.net/idol/index.cfm
19:26:52  JenniferW -> Stephen is on the way to SPAIN
19:26:52  mrsdurff -> why not just convert the video?
19:26:55  JenniferW -> OL Daily
19:26:57  Debbie -> @JenW SHould I be worried that I can read your mind?
19:27:09  JenniferW -> @Debbie -- ahhhh sometimes I should be worried
19:27:42  JL -> http://www.quikmaps.com/
19:27:50  JenniferW -> send a POPUP to DS
19:27:52  sharonp -> Stephen is the human web
19:28:08  JL -> http://www.feedbooks.com/news
19:28:09  JenniferW -> I think Stephen was a bit hurt that only 3 people sent in applications
19:28:20  sharonp -> youch
19:28:25  alicemercer -> Part of me says why?
19:28:29  JenniferW -> anyone else read between the lines on his blog??
19:28:44  Debbie -> Oh yeah...RSS to PDF...more paper.
19:29:00  JohnS -> Making Popcorn With a Cell Phone Only Happens in the Movies: http://www.cardosystems.com/pop/ 
19:29:18  Debbie -> Yeah...glurge on ETT..sheesh.
19:29:32  JasonR -> HOAX!
19:29:42  mrsdurff -> no popcorn?
19:29:48  mrsdurff -> i like popcorn
19:29:52  alicemercer -> Well, debbie you experience this all the time I'm sure, lol
19:29:58  JenniferW -> POPCORN with cell phone DID NOT WORK
19:30:04  JenniferW -> at least at my work
19:30:04  JohnS -> ASUS EeePC pilot project update: http://tannervision.blogspot.com/2008/05/asus-eeepc-pilot-project-update...
19:30:09  JenniferW -> which was QUITE SAD
19:30:32  dave -> http://port25.technet.com/videos/downloads/wmpfirefoxplugin.exe
19:30:37  dave -> firefox plugin
19:30:39  Debbie -> At our house, it's refered to as the "baby computer"
19:30:55  JasonR -> DO the kids need to do video? Does it do that?
19:30:56  alicemercer -> Yeah, cause buy three cell phones is cheaper than getting one microwave JW
19:31:26  JenniferW -> LOL
19:31:34  dave -> http://ltc.umanitoba.ca/wiki/Connectivism
19:32:00  JenniferW -> 650 people
19:32:02  JenniferW -> enrolled
19:32:11  Debbie -> Holy cow!
19:32:12  JenniferW -> I dropped -- don't like BIG classes  :)
19:32:27  sharonp -> Dibs on being George's class pet!
19:32:39  Debbie -> Chat will be hard to follow!!
19:32:53  sharonp -> How intimate can this course be??
19:32:54  JenniferW -> they aren't going to deal with it
19:32:59  JasonR -> How do churches deal with it?
19:33:01  JenniferW -> they will have to split it up
19:33:03  alicemercer -> Scary. Dont' like that much in RL, why do it online?
19:33:05  JenniferW -> smaller groups
19:33:07  mrsdurff -> poor them
19:33:26  JenniferW -> I didn't think it was ever going to be live -- I thought it was going to be a wiki
19:33:31  JenniferW -> You can distribute in Elluminate
19:33:32  mrsdurff -> well you will dave
19:33:37  sharonp -> Lots of work for them to figger this out
19:33:44  JenniferW -> Alec Courous can share his skype account   :)
19:33:54  sharonp -> will be as exciting as Psych 101
19:33:55  alicemercer -> Poof!
19:33:57  loonyhiker -> kaboom
19:34:18  mrsdurff -> let's find out what noise it makes when it explodes
19:34:25  sharonp -> It's all my fault - I told too many people
19:34:30  alicemercer -> Maybe you could pop corn with it?
19:34:39  mrsdurff -> hey popcorn
19:34:43  loonyhiker -> lol
19:34:49  mrsdurff -> s'mores
19:34:56  JenM -> Feed Reader Extravaganza: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/the-new-rss-feed-reader-wars/
19:35:00  JenniferW -> Do you think they really did not anticipate that AMOUNT of response
19:35:25  mrsdurff -> they did the advertising
19:35:32  dave -> @jenniferW i don't think anyone has ever seen that kind of traffic
19:35:50  Debbie -> Sounds like Feedly.
19:35:55  JenniferW -> I had 1,000 teachers sign up for the O.R.E.O. project --
19:36:07  JenniferW -> but we didn't ever meet in ONE place
19:36:13  alicemercer -> You can share on Google Reader contacts
19:36:15  loonyhiker -> @JW did they think you were giving out cookies and milk :)
19:36:16  JenniferW -> would NEVER do that
19:36:17  Debbie -> But I ended up with LOTS of feeds to read, and it got overwhelming this week, so I uninstalled it.
19:36:18  mrsdurff -> you're famous jen
19:36:32  JenniferW -> Smiles -- if they gave cookies -- they would have had 2,000
19:36:52  mrsdurff -> cookies? i want cookies
19:37:02  JenniferW -> tossing cookies to MrsDurff   :)
19:37:06  mrsdurff -> ty
19:37:07  Debbie -> D'Arcy's using Feedly, too, & tweets about it.  That's where I got the idea.  Might be something different, though.
19:37:34  alicemercer -> says readburner is a social networking/feed site
19:37:42  Debbie -> @JenW Don't toss your cookies, please!
19:37:54  mrsdurff -> now i need coffee to go with those cookies
19:38:03  JenniferW -> LOL -- Thank Goodness Deb -- I wondered if anyone had a sense of humor today
19:38:17  JL -> http://waxy.org/2008/06/code_rush/
19:39:01  JohnS -> SpaceTime TV: http://www.spacetime.us/tv/
19:39:04  JasonR -> It is always a trip to go to the Archive.org and watch 10-year old episodes of the Computer Chronicles
19:39:07  JL -> http://johnlocker.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
19:39:18  Debbie -> @dave Second link you just talked about didn't drop.
19:39:27  Debbie -> Never mind. (-:
19:39:34  JL -> http://www.kaltura.com/
19:39:56  dave -> http://edtechpost.wikispaces.com/PLE+Diagrams
19:40:02  JasonR -> http://www.archive.org/details/computerchronicles
19:40:55  dave -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/5tein/2271568921/
19:41:38  JenM -> OER Extravaganza from Stephen: http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/page.cgi?post=45032
19:42:45  JL -> http://vuzit.com/
19:42:59  JL -> http://scrnshots.com/
19:43:04  sharonp -> there is so much out there!! I just can't keep up !
19:43:15  JenniferW -> thank goodness this is all Delicioused
19:43:18  JL -> http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/06/red-paperclip-g.html
19:43:33  JenniferW -> yes???
19:43:37  JenniferW -> did he lose the house??
19:43:39  JenniferW -> NO WAY
19:43:54  JenniferW -> now that is funny
19:43:59  JohnS -> Instruction and practice for math facts: http://www.kidsnumbers.com/  and Interactive Flash Games for practicing multiplication:: http://www.multiplication.com/interactive_games.htm  and Tutpup : http://tutpup.com/
19:44:10  JenniferW -> is that really true -- about the paperclip??
19:45:11  mrsdurff -> it wasa fun
19:45:15  JenniferW -> I think he should take the paperclip
19:45:20  JenniferW -> and start again
19:45:33  JenM -> MOODLE hosted site: http://ninehub.com/
19:45:52  JenniferW -> ahhhh -- we have someone who wrote a book about Moodle on WOW2 this week.  It is a Cheryl hosting week
19:46:02  JenM -> http://ldd.lego.com/
19:46:38  JenniferW -> Yes, you had TONS of pieces to build -- now you have ONLY the pieces you need
19:46:42  JenniferW -> and I still can't build it
19:46:52  loonyhiker -> gee someone is showing their age... that is what i had many years ago :)
19:46:55  JasonR -> They make both kinds of kits
19:47:14  JenniferW -> it's like car parts -- I always end up with leftovers
19:47:23  alicemercer -> Here is the creation gallery: http://bionicle.lego.com/en-us/Gallery/default.aspx
19:47:38  JenniferW -> love it -- virtual legos can be enjoyed by all
19:47:46  JenniferW -> hmmm I owe JS  $5.50 now to quote that
19:47:50  JasonR -> They make LEGO-shaped fruit snack now too (see above)
19:47:51  loonyhiker -> i built my own inventions that did whatever i wanted it to do at the time
19:47:54  alicemercer -> Also, the digital designer was not easy for my son to use
19:48:09  alicemercer -> And he is a champion builder, and okay on computers.
19:48:10  JenM -> http://omeka.org/
19:48:16  JenniferW -> I always built Walls too -- think it says a lot about personalities
19:48:24  JasonR -> @alicemercer how old
19:48:50  alicemercer -> If JOHN will look at the creation gallery, he'll see some of the remixing kids have done http://bionicle.lego.com/en-us/Gallery/default.aspx
19:48:53  JenM -> http://www.audiria.com/index.php
19:49:05  alicemercer -> 9.5 years old
19:49:19 [Action] JasonR -> working on a video podcast about it, so welcome the feedback
19:49:20  alicemercer -> It's a whole sub-genre of lego
19:49:26  JenniferW -> Okay -- that paperclip guy has been traveling doing speaking engagements -- so he has $$ and should go back to ONE PAPERCLIP -- in my humble opinion  :)
19:49:37  JenniferW -> sorry -- got stuck on that article
19:49:38  JL -> http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2431/125/
19:49:44  JenniferW -> SHARON -- this is a CANADA thing
19:49:51  JenniferW -> eh????
19:50:05  JenniferW -> so -- we in the USA -- can't participate -- how sad is that
19:50:07  JasonR -> You can move to the US
19:50:08  JL -> http://gizmodo.com/5017980/windows-xp-on-a-dell-means-50-downgrade-surch...
19:50:33  JenniferW -> Yes, Dell is going to still offer XP -- hmmmm really???
19:50:34  JasonR -> Less is more
19:50:39  JenniferW -> is that on the website???
19:50:48  alicemercer -> $30, it's worth it
19:50:56  JenniferW -> we just ordered a laptop -- no problem no downgrade cost
19:51:07  JL -> http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/creative-commons-salon-2/
19:51:20  JenniferW -> what is a SALON??
19:51:24  JenniferW -> ahhhhhhh   gotcha
19:51:32  JenniferW -> are you really going to have a POST SHOW???
19:51:35  loonyhiker -> knock on wood but i must be the only person in the world that doesn't have any problems w/ vista
19:51:39  JasonR -> It's like a saloon but with fancier drinks
19:51:48  JL -> http://edtechtalk.com/node/1492
19:51:54  alicemercer -> woohoo
19:51:56  JenniferW -> LOL  -- I thought it was a hair cut place that didn't charge
19:52:03  JenniferW -> who is invited to this CONVERSATION??
19:52:03  alicemercer -> 5 p.m. SL time
19:52:07  JenniferW -> all of us???
19:52:08  JasonR -> Creative Commons haricuts
19:52:10  Debbie -> @alice Those are neat creations, but is there anything not a humanoid monster or a vehicle?
19:52:11  JenniferW -> yep
19:52:11  alicemercer -> HEY YEAH!
19:52:20  JenniferW -> NECC --- anything next week??
19:52:22  alicemercer -> Debbie, heck no!
19:52:23  JohnS -> http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/19/necc-2008-podcasters-beware-...
19:52:28  JenniferW -> are any of you GOING to NECC
19:52:28  JohnS -> http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/21/good-news-iste-revises-recor...
19:52:30  alicemercer -> I didn't
19:52:32 [Action] JasonR -> not going to NECC. Who is?
19:52:34  Debbie -> @alice Mine build more buildings, castles, and rockets. (-:
19:52:36  JenM -> All of our links: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20080622
19:52:37  JenniferW -> they rewrote it
19:52:41  JenniferW -> within 24 hours
19:52:47  Debbie -> @alice and people, of course...
19:52:54  JenniferW -> we kneejerked
19:53:05  alicemercer -> http://www.necc2008.org/forum/topic/show?id=1997968%3ATopic%3A10013
19:53:19  JenniferW -> Donella??  is that her name -- reposted it
19:53:22  JenniferW -> LOL
19:53:25  JenniferW -> it is the US
19:53:27  alicemercer -> @debbie, sorry, my boys like making creatures
19:53:28  JenniferW -> howling
19:53:34  JasonR -> NECC is international (theoretically)
19:53:37  alicemercer -> Anita did
19:53:39  JenniferW -> YES  -- I did
19:53:44  dave -> http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2008/06/20/iste-changes-this-years-policy-...
19:53:46  alicemercer -> I looked at it, can I call in please?
19:53:46  josteen -> NECC revised their statement - http://www.speedofcreativity.org/2008/06/21/good-news-iste-revises-recor...
19:53:50  JenniferW -> it has MOSTLY to do with COMMERCIAL USE
19:53:53  Debbie -> @alice Is that link ALL THEIR STUFF??
19:53:57  JenniferW -> I have skype on too
19:54:15  alicemercer -> @deb no
19:54:23  JenniferW -> but do n't want to talk NECC
19:54:26  JenniferW -> already blogged about it
19:54:38  alicemercer -> Can we talk about getting folks to help stream?
19:54:40  Debbie -> @alice Now lincoln logs - they like those better than legos!
19:54:40  JenniferW -> but will talk Twitter if JenM wants to
19:55:05  JenM -> want to talk twitter, JW?
19:55:06  Debbie -> Twitter went NUTS when ISTE announced it.
19:55:07  JenniferW -> go to TweetScan and search NECC -- just to watch the backlash conversation
19:55:34  JenniferW -> it was like a mutiny -- and then a dog with his tail between his legs
19:55:49  JenniferW -> <-----was very kind on her blog -- and also said they would change in 24 hours
19:55:53  alicemercer -> This is a long-going battle for Miguel G.
19:55:54  jeffmason -> bud hunt was a voice of reason
19:56:07  Debbie -> Durff certainly had an opinion. (-:
19:56:13  alicemercer -> He has had a lot of battles with Texas folks
19:56:16  JenniferW -> YEP -- it was not written well  and they needed to clarify it
19:56:20  JenniferW -> which they did
19:56:28  JenniferW -> but they should have FORESEEN it as well
19:56:54  JenniferW -> you mean -- be an international conference????
19:57:03  JenniferW -> which isn't just hosted in the USA??
19:57:26  Debbie -> There are people who don't focus 24/7 on ed tech? (-:
19:57:40  sheila -> Any one going to the affiliate meeting at NECC?
19:57:41  JenniferW -> ha -- name 10
19:57:54  JenniferW -> am not going to NECC
19:58:22  JasonR -> How long ago was that when JL did it for the first time?
19:58:24  JenniferW -> we talked about this yesterday with Steve Hargadon  -- and he is taking some action
19:58:35  JenniferW -> to make sure that audience knows they are an active audience
19:58:39  JenniferW -> because they walked in the door
19:58:45  alicemercer -> It'll be posted
19:58:53  JasonR -> I remember you being way ahead of everyone else
19:58:59  jeffmason -> which came first, the conference or the product showcase?
19:59:22  JenniferW -> YEAH!!!    Yes
19:59:28  alicemercer -> That's the hope.
19:59:28  JenniferW -> WOW2 will be hosted From NECC
19:59:34  JasonR -> Now it seems like everyone with a Nokia is doing it
19:59:35  JL -> http://asianbridges.com/pac2/index.html
19:59:48  JenniferW -> 2009  DC
19:59:48  sheila -> DC
19:59:54  JenniferW -> post SHOW???
19:59:57  JenniferW -> please please please
19:59:58  alicemercer -> YEP!
19:59:59  mrsdurff -> edtech reunion in dc!
20:00:05  Debbie -> I hope everyone goes in '09 so I can meet y'all F2F!
20:00:08  JasonR -> Thanks everyone. Great show.
20:00:12  JenniferW -> for colon ed tech talk
20:00:14  josteen -> bye
20:00:16  JenniferW -> is that how I type it
20:00:20  JenniferW -> POST SHOW!!!!!!
20:00:27  JenniferW -> love POST SHOW
20:00:32  mrsdurff -> we want to meet the woman who lives with john
20:00:34  JenniferW -> YES!!!!!
20:00:47  JenniferW -> host your own Necc Unplugged ETT
20:00:49  JasonR -> Too late to submit for 2009, yes?
20:00:50  mrsdurff -> gerfuffle?
20:00:54  alicemercer -> I think that might be unplugged
20:00:58  JenniferW -> but Apple might get mad
20:01:07  JenniferW -> can I call too??  can I   can I
20:01:08  Debbie -> The idea was that our whole family would go and I'd babysit while he was at NECC, but now I want to attend myself!  Anyone want to babysit? (-:
20:01:08  mrsdurff -> so true alice
20:01:13  JenniferW -> who do I call??????
20:01:20  JenniferW -> Debbie -- we are putting to gether FAMILY events
20:01:25  JenniferW -> and perhaps child care
20:01:38  mrsdurff -> call john jen
20:01:40  JenniferW -> Necc has a KEYNOTE??
20:01:43  JL -> jschinker
20:01:43  JenniferW -> call JOHN???
20:02:01  Debbie -> *giggle* Yeah, he can babysit so I can meet you all!
20:02:15  JasonR -> Night.
20:02:18  Debbie -> Wait...his work pays for NECC, so that won't work.
20:02:43  Debbie -> Yeah, because 10,000 people are going to try to be online WHILE at NECC!!
20:02:45  alicemercer -> http://ettatnecc.wikispaces.com/
20:03:01  JenWagner -> Debbie -- nah -- maybe 2,500   8,500 don't have a clue
20:03:04  mrsdurff -> i need to practice first - make sure it works with new setup
20:03:16  mrsdurff -> i hear ya alice
20:03:49  dave -> night all...
20:03:50  JenWagner -> at the TechForum -- 250 people there   3 were streaming Sheryl in the keynote
20:03:53  JenWagner -> RIDICULOUS
20:03:57  dave -> gotta go see my couch troll
20:04:04  mrsdurff -> why can't i click on hyperlinks and have them open in new tab anymore - does nothing now
20:04:13  Debbie -> Bye Dave!  Tell Bon I said hi. (-:
20:04:21  loonyhiker -> @mrsdurff i have to hold the ctrl key
20:04:27  JenWagner -> @durff -- yep for me too -- FF won't let me
20:04:32  mrsdurff -> i tried that loony
20:04:33  JenWagner -> tried the control key too
20:04:37  JenWagner -> didn't work
20:04:51  mrsdurff -> it used to work
20:05:32  Debbie -> @Durff  Hmm...can't try it because I'm on a non FF3 computer.
20:05:35  JenWagner -> I don't get how that will save bandwidth though
20:05:44  mrsdurff -> i'm on the old FF
20:05:47  jeffmason -> If the presenters have to approve streaming, cant't they control the number "officially"
20:06:06  loonyhiker -> havin bad storms here y'all. have a nice nite!
20:06:16  Debbie -> Bye looney!
20:06:30  loonyhiker -> thanks for this great session! bye y'all
20:06:42  mrsdurff -> we all do this every week jen
20:07:18  Debbie -> Being called to serve dessert (ice cream cones) to kids, so I'll catch you all later!
20:07:33  JohnS -> hey -- dessert for 3, please.
20:07:41  mrsdurff -> food?
20:08:01  mrsdurff -> i want some
20:08:12  JohnS -> maybe she'll bring you some, too, Durff
20:08:19  mrsdurff -> okay
20:08:30  mrsdurff -> hi mac
20:10:34  mrsdurff -> i read/review one page and that is it
20:11:07  mrsdurff -> i wait for no one - much too impatient for that
20:11:35  mrsdurff -> we'll be right there john
20:12:10  mrsdurff -> aawww!
20:12:17  JenWagner -> CONGRATULATIONS!!!
20:12:25  JenWagner -> and Dr. Jen -- the check is in the mail
20:12:32  JenWagner -> for your psychiatric help
20:12:52  mrsdurff -> yes Mac is a webcasting star!
20:12:52  JenM -> nite all!
20:13:01  mrsdurff -> nite ye'll
20:13:05  JenM -> Thank you for joining the "fun"!


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