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2010-04-29 Seedlings Chat with Lisa Nielson and Willyn Webb

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 Bob and Cheryl are joined by and Willyn Webb: Author, Counselor at Alternative HS having success with cells in a district where it's banned Lisa Nielson:  Tech Innovation Manager in NYC and creator of The Innovative Educator Blog

Advocate for students using the tools they already own!

 

 

Here is part of the agenda with some great links:

 

    * Why do you think that cells are a tool necessary for combating the digital divide?

          o Ubiqutous (Lisa)

          o No cost to schools (Willyn)

    * But how can you recommend cell phones when most schools ban them? (Is it still a city-wide ban in NY?) Yes it

          o How long has this been in effect? History? (Lisa)

                + Since about 2007

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                  “I lost something very important to me”  

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                      # I teach teachers to do this, which was a story in NYC (Lisa)

                            * New York Sun -Despite School Cell Phone Ban, Course Sees Them as Aid - May 16, 2008

                            * UPI - New York teachers learn cell phone lessons - May 16, 2008

                            * Million Campaign Consulting at the NYC DOE

                      # Increase communication with students and parents outside the school day (Willyn)

 

    * How can you use support research based strategies with cell phones?

          o We use Marzano's 9 research based strategies and come up with ways cell phones can enrich each idea

               1. Innovative Ideas for Using Cell Phones for Nonlinguistic Representations (Willyn)

          o a variety of activities produce nonlinguistic representations such as creating graphic representation, making physical models, generating mental pictures, drawing pictures and pictographs, and engaging in kinesthetic activity.  Because most new cell phones come with a camera and are able to send picture messages, our focus is on utilizing the pictorial capabilities of the cell phone.  Many cell phones even record video, which will also be a wonderful nonlinguistic enhancement incorporating both pictorial and kinesthetic activity.   Elaboration of knowledge through cell phone technologies, such as sound and pictures will increase student achievement. 

          o Flickr is great for sharing pictures with the use of cell phones.  A slideshow is created for each project without any effort from the teacher.

          o Googlevoice is a wonderful tool for encouraging students learning through sound.

 

The Chat:

 

 19:16:11  bobsprankle -> Room 1: hi lisa!

 19:17:57  Lisa Nielsen -> Room 1: Oh, hi.

 19:21:09  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Evening, just getting settled.

 19:21:41  bobsprankle -> Room 1: hi!

 19:26:51  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: welcome

 19:32:09  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Welcome

 19:32:21  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Hello Brin

 19:32:47  brinmullnl -> Room 1: Hey. Spelled my name wrong. Yea me.

 19:33:07  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: you can get another chance!!

 19:33:27  bobsprankle -> Room 1: ji all

 19:33:31  bobsprankle -> Room 1: *hi

 19:34:26  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: there we go Brian!

 19:34:33  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Thanks for joining us.

 19:34:40  RobZ -> Room 1: This is audio-only, correct?

 19:34:50  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: This is only audio and the chat room.

 19:35:06  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Yeah Peggy, you are late:-), we were just asking where you were.

 19:35:09  Peggy George -> Room 1: Hi everyone! Had to try 2 browsers tonight. Whew!

 19:35:19  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Oh, does Chrome work yet?

 19:35:20  Peggy George -> Room 1: why doesn't Chrome show the chat room?

 19:35:26  Peggy George -> Room 1: no not yet!

 19:35:30  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Same with me!!! no chat in chrome

 19:35:36  brianmullnl -> Room 1: doesn't seem like Chrome is compatibl;e

 19:35:40  Peggy George -> Room 1: but I started listening to the audio with my first login on Chrome :-)

 19:35:41  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: yet....

 19:35:52  bobsprankle -> Room 1: Hi Peggy!

 19:36:10  Peggy George -> Room 1: Hi Bob and Cheryl :-)

 19:36:37  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Lisa and Willyn will be talking about cell phones and classrooms.

 19:36:47  Peggy George -> Room 1: how exciting!! love that topic!!

 19:37:49  Peggy George -> Room 1: love her courage!! educators need to know about the tools in their pockets so they can use them with students :-)

 19:38:16  Peggy George -> Room 1: great story!

 19:38:46  brianmullnl -> Room 1: That happened once when I went to present in a technology academy

 19:39:01  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: brian, I bet that was a shocker

 19:39:08  brianmullnl -> Room 1: sadly, no

 19:40:01  Peggy George -> Room 1: that confirms what Robert Epstein was saying in his interview about Teen 2.0 research! our teens have more restrictions than teens anywhere in the world!!

 19:40:31  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: But, it just gives the teens something to fight

 19:41:26  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Clarence Fisher has had cell phones new in his community for only two weeks, and he already has them using them in class. http://www.evenfromhere.org/?p=1432

 19:41:36  Peggy George -> Room 1: this is so sad!! you're so right we need to start publishing this

 19:41:39  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: thanks for that article

 19:44:00  Peggy George -> Room 1: such an important point--almost all students have a cell phone!! with all of the budget cuts that seems like such an obvious solution!!

 19:44:09  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: You will need to listen fast Lisa and Willyn have so much to share!!

 19:44:27  Peggy George -> Room 1: I'm peddling as fast as I can :-)

 19:44:29  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Absolutely. Schools are clamoring to get money for cameras, video cameras, etc

 19:44:43  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Great Peggy! me too. I have my goggles first.

 19:45:13  Peggy George -> Room 1: such practical advice!! :-)

 19:45:30  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Great parallel there

 19:45:38  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Such great baby steps. and good strategies.

 19:46:03  bobsprankle -> Room 1: love the oxygen for teacher 1st metaphor!

 19:46:14  brianmullnl -> Room 1: absolutely

 19:46:24  Peggy George -> Room 1: how can anyone argue with that idea if it's "just an option"???

 19:47:23  brianmullnl -> Room 1: I met a group of students who were ChaCha question answerers after school in their free time chacha.com

 19:47:34  Peggy George -> Room 1: love the use of wiffiti!! Tony Vincent used that with us at our conference a couple of months ago

 19:47:50  bobsprankle -> Room 1: v. cool brian

 19:49:41  Peggy George -> Room 1: schools love "free" IF they can control them!!

 19:50:00  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Don't tell the Ning users that. ;)

 19:50:19  Peggy George -> Room 1: :-)

 19:50:37  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: yes, waiting for NING countdown, May 4

 19:51:42  Peggy George -> Room 1: this is a great example!

 19:52:29  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Load Skype on those touches, and bam

 19:52:42  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, yes, skype on the touch

 19:52:50  Peggy George -> Room 1: :-) I'm with you brianmullin

 19:53:27  brianmullnl -> Room 1: The whole thing is a game, really. How can we outsmart the powers that be. Sad that it's always us against them.

 19:53:53  Peggy George -> Room 1: that's a great idea about using google voice

 19:53:54  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Absolutely

 19:54:00  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: But Brian, sometimes kids like the challenge to prove good.

 19:54:31  brianmullnl -> Room 1: oh, not disagreeing. I was speaking more about teachers/students vs tech/administration

 19:54:46  Peggy George -> Room 1: What is Lisa's blog link?

 19:54:56  bobsprankle -> Room 1: http://theinnovativeeducator.blogspot.com/

 19:54:59  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Oh, yes, I agree, I think our kids can teach the admin/teachers how great it can be.

 19:55:05  bobsprankle -> Room 1: http://www.willynwebb.com/

 19:55:18  Peggy George -> Room 1: you can do that with ipadio too--call in and record a message

 19:55:27  brianmullnl -> Room 1: and phonecasting.com

 19:55:55  Peggy George -> Room 1: thanks for the links :-)

 19:57:42  brianmullnl -> Room 1: That's a big key. Convince the parents and they will start putting pressure on the school.

 19:59:29  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: What a great story about how Lisa and Willyn met and work together, yet haven't met.

 19:59:58  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Kids will cheat

 20:00:12  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: yes  Brian.

 20:00:16  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Just a big distraction

 20:00:25  brianmullnl -> Room 1: kids will steal phones

 20:00:39  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: theft could be an issue

 20:00:55  Peggy George -> Room 1: definitely distraction!! won't pay attention! can't write because of IM shortcuts

 20:02:05  brianmullnl -> Room 1: If it's that easy to cheat with a cell phone on a test, we're asking the wrong questions.

 20:02:07  Peggy George -> Room 1: it's how you structure the assignments that make a difference!! :-)

 20:02:21  Peggy George -> Room 1: exactly Brian!! you said it better than I did!

 20:02:23  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Brian, I agree, not the right questions.

 20:02:28  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Hi Michael!!

 20:02:48  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Lisa will be back momentarily.

 20:03:17  brianmullnl -> Room 1: echo echo echo ;)

 20:03:38  Peggy George -> Room 1: my audio is great :-)

 20:03:47  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: you mean echo ideas, not that you hear echo on the audio, right???

 20:03:57  Peggy George -> Room 1: :-)

 20:03:57  brianmullnl -> Room 1: was commenting on Bob echoing my point

 20:04:12  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: whew, echo during webcast is nasty

 20:04:15  mjgormans -> Room 1: Hi Cheryl, just got my audio on

 20:04:23  brianmullnl -> Room 1: no, audio is fantastic

 20:04:25  bobsprankle -> Room 1: lol

 20:04:27  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Great Michael.

 20:04:36  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: This will be a podcast tomorrow.

 20:04:52  mjgormans -> Room 1: Great I can catch first half

 20:05:00  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, yes!

 20:05:39  Peggy George -> Room 1: 5 Reasons why English Teachers Should Use Twitter (love this!) http://blakelyonlitwritingtech.blogspot.com/2010/04/five-reasons-why-eng...

 20:05:39  brianmullnl -> Room 1: AWESOME APP DOWNLOADED LAST NIGHT

 20:05:50  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, sweet, thanks,

 20:05:52  brianmullnl -> Room 1: it's amazing

 20:06:07  brianmullnl -> Room 1: http://siri.com/

 20:06:54  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: brian, was siri the app you downloaded

 20:07:11  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Yes

 20:07:14  brianmullnl -> Room 1: http://www.macrumors.com/2010/04/28/siri-acquisition-brings-apple-much-c...

 20:07:16  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, thanks!

 20:07:17  mjgormans -> Room 1: old 1980's video!  I am feeling dated

 20:07:32  brianmullnl -> Room 1: It was amazing how right on this video was.

 20:07:40  Peggy George -> Room 1: is it siri or siri assistant?

 20:07:47  brianmullnl -> Room 1: siri

 20:07:59  brianmullnl -> Room 1: i think one is the company and the other is the app

 20:08:13  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Byuilt for 3GS. Buggy on 3G

 20:08:23  brianmullnl -> Room 1: but it will work. I have a 3G

 20:09:06  Peggy George -> Room 1: that's good to know Brian--I have a 3G :-) downloading it now

 20:09:34  brianmullnl -> Room 1: It's quit on me a few times. They say they are working on a 3G version

 20:11:30  Peggy George -> Room 1: all of those choices are so powerful!!

 20:11:45  mjgormans -> Room 1: Are the teachers tested and merit pay for kids?

 20:12:18  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: good point Michael.

 20:13:54  mjgormans -> Room 1: Bob, do they get to access wireless network with their personal itouch?

 20:14:14  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: yes Michael, we open our wireless all over the district

 20:14:42  mjgormans -> Room 1: I am impressed with the trust! You are to be commended

 20:14:45  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: hello andrea!

 20:14:54  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: So far, so good.

 20:15:18  Peggy George -> Room 1: funny ban! kids can't bring toys and cell phones are toys?? :-)

 20:15:33  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, yes, banning doesn't teach much

 20:15:47  mjgormans -> Room 1: But teachers can bring their toys?

 20:16:04  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: oh, yes, teachers can bring their cells and stuff

 20:17:22  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: yes, Willyn, change the perception that these are not toys, but tools

 20:17:47  mjgormans -> Room 1: Is it really the teachers or the administration and legal consult?

 20:18:21  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Michael, what is this in reference to?

 20:18:23  andreahildreth -> Room 1: Hello Cheryl, sorry I'm so late to the party

 20:18:41  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Andrea, it is a podcast by tomorrow morning, so you can catch up.

 20:18:46  mjgormans -> Room 1: banning the ipod touches

 20:18:50  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: we are glad you are here

 20:19:02  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Oh, banning things at school, fear based!

 20:19:06  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: the toy school

 20:20:05  Peggy George -> Room 1: how funny Bob!! quick reaction Cheryl!!

 20:20:28  Peggy George -> Room 1: this has been a very encouraging conversation!! need to read the book :-)

 20:20:32  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http://tinyurl.com/cellinterestsurvey

 20:21:28  Peggy George -> Room 1: great! I'll fill in the survey!! Definitely want to hear more!!

 20:21:30  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http://wiffiti.com

 20:22:20  Peggy George -> Room 1: I heard the principals talk about "Geek of the Week" in this week's Maine Principal webinar :-)

 20:22:27  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http://wetxt.com     from Willyn   a notebook app

 20:22:35  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http://www.flickr.com

 20:22:43  Peggy George -> Room 1: wiffiti is so much fun!!

 20:23:03  Peggy George -> Room 1: and your anonymous names are very creative in wiffiti (if you send a message without logging in)

 20:23:30  brianmullnl -> Room 1: Love my flickr account

 20:23:32  mjgormans -> Room 1: Wiffiti looks very cool

 20:23:38  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Alice http://iste.org

 20:23:38  Lisa Nielsen -> Room 1: Yes.  Those are cool in Wiffiti.  I should have mentioned that.

 20:24:06  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1:  http://creativecoomons.org.tw/licwiz/english.html

 20:24:34  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: creativecommons.org.tw/licwiz/english.html

 20:24:55  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Bob'   http://www.wegivebooks.org

 20:25:08  Peggy George -> Room 1: so that's why the link didn't work :-)

 20:26:14  Peggy George -> Room 1: love that idea Bob!! didn't know about it and such a great idea!

 20:26:17  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http:/woices.com/echo/3936     shout out to Carla Arena!

 20:26:39  mjgormans -> Room 1: Great for literacy and global awareness

 20:28:09  mjgormans -> Room 1: They also have app for iphone

 20:28:26  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: If you try some ideas and give feedback to Lisa, Willyn

 20:28:46  Peggy George -> Room 1: I still can't get the creativecommons link to work--could you post it one more time?

 20:29:00  brianmullnl -> Room 1: me neither, not even the new one

 20:29:31  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: http://creativecommons.org.tw/licwiz/english.html

 20:29:52  Peggy George -> Room 1: still not working

 20:30:02  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: ok, Alice will get back to us.

 20:30:19  mjgormans -> Room 1: Yes thank you, great info!

 20:30:35  brianmullnl -> Room 1: nice job

 20:30:36  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: feedback to the survey!!!

 20:30:43  andreahildreth -> Room 1: :)

 20:30:46  Peggy George -> Room 1: fantastic conversation!! thank you so much!

 20:30:58  Lisa Nielsen -> Room 1: Thanks for listening!

 20:31:04  Lisa Nielsen -> Room 1: And for the great insights!

 20:31:15  bobsprankle -> Room 1: goodnight!

 20:31:19  Lisa Nielsen -> Room 1: Nite

 20:31:33  willynwebb -> Room 1: Looking forward to your success stories!

 20:31:36  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: OH Bethy, we just finished!!

 20:31:39  bobsprankle -> Room 1: ty all!

 20:31:46  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Please share your info on the surveys.

 20:31:48  Peggy George -> Room 1: that will be a great show!! very eager to talk with people about the K-12 Horizon Report and Lucy is a perfect person for this!!

 20:31:58  cheryloakes~ -> Room 1: Yes, Lucy will be here next week.

 20:31:59  bethy -> Room 1: darn! 

 20:32:54  mjgormans -> Room 1: Enjoy the upcoming weekend, all!

 

 



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