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21st Century Learning #90: Fred Bartels and Peter Gow

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21st Century Learning #90
Fred Bartels and Peter Gow on Their Disrupted School Concepts
January 8, 2009

Fred Bartels and Peter Gow on the Virtual Disrupted Academy and Virtual Country Day School. 

Image from Fred Bartels' VDA Google Site. 

 

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2009-01-08 12:56:57  David Withrow ->  Hi Demetri
2009-01-08 12:57:01  demetri ->  hey there
2009-01-08 12:57:07  demetri ->  are they streaming yet?
2009-01-08 12:57:17  David Withrow ->  not that I know of.
2009-01-08 12:57:27  demetri ->  how's tricks?
2009-01-08 12:58:27  alex.ragone ->  Hey Folks -- Can you hear us ok?
2009-01-08 12:58:32  demetri ->  not yet
2009-01-08 12:58:38  demetri ->  which channel?
2009-01-08 12:59:45  alex.ragone ->  you can try the ustream.
2009-01-08 12:59:53  alex.ragone ->  on the right or channel a
2009-01-08 13:00:34  alex.ragone ->  Hey folks -- can everyon hear us alright?
2009-01-08 13:00:43  PeggyG ->  hearing fine-Hello!
2009-01-08 13:00:57  demetri ->  got you on ustream thanks
2009-01-08 13:01:54  demetri ->  thanks for posting the event on the ning... that's how I knew about it
2009-01-08 13:02:52  PeggyG ->  Your mom is cool!! :-)
2009-01-08 13:03:35  demetri ->  Yeah, my mom just friended me on FB
2009-01-08 13:03:36  PeggyG ->  I actually sent skype chats to my daughter --she was upstairs and I was downstairs :-) saved a trip
2009-01-08 13:04:43  demetri ->  hi fred
2009-01-08 13:05:38  alex.ragone ->  Hey Folks.
2009-01-08 13:05:42  alex.ragone ->  Going to get going in a couple
2009-01-08 13:06:17  PeggyG ->  I agree-audio is perfect :-)
2009-01-08 13:06:58  demetri ->  hey Sarah!
2009-01-08 13:07:28  sarah h ->  hi demetri  setting up blues clues for kids!
2009-01-08 13:10:03  PeggyG ->  isn't this technology amazing?! Vinnie on wifi in public place :-)
2009-01-08 13:12:46  PeggyG ->  do you have links for their sites? Peter and Fred
2009-01-08 13:13:49  sarah h ->  http://disruptedacademy.wikispaces.com/
2009-01-08 13:13:55  sarah h ->  since that's me he's talking about
2009-01-08 13:14:03  sarah h ->  that's the wiki
2009-01-08 13:14:13  sarah h ->  Peter set up
2009-01-08 13:15:33  PeggyG ->  thanks a lot!
2009-01-08 13:16:20  alex.ragone ->  http://disruptedacademy.wikispaces.com
2009-01-08 13:16:29  alex.ragone ->  http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com/wiki/Designing_the_21st_Century_School
2009-01-08 13:16:34  alex.ragone ->  Fred and then Peter.
2009-01-08 13:16:39  sarah h ->  http://sites.google.com/site/virtualdisruptingacademy/
2009-01-08 13:16:46  alex.ragone ->  Thanks, Sarah.
2009-01-08 13:17:33  alex.ragone ->  As we go -- Feel free to put your questions in.
2009-01-08 13:20:24  sarah h ->  I wonder how often the "other" programs end up being the places that many students really value and connect with, more so than courses?
2009-01-08 13:23:00  demetri ->  gotta run to lunch. see ya later. I'll have to catch the recording L8r. thx
2009-01-08 13:23:07  alex.ragone ->  Thanks, demetri.
2009-01-08 13:23:17  alex.ragone ->  Sarah -- We'll definitely get to that.
2009-01-08 13:23:34  alex.ragone ->  I'm interested in motivating the kids that are cruising through classes.
2009-01-08 13:23:42  alex.ragone ->  Like I did.
2009-01-08 13:24:23  alex.ragone ->  Online Learning 2.0
2009-01-08 13:24:40  alex.ragone ->  It's going to be social.  Could be in a game.
2009-01-08 13:24:46  alex.ragone ->  Could be community based. 
2009-01-08 13:24:50  alex.ragone ->  Where do you see this/
2009-01-08 13:24:51  alex.ragone ->  ?
2009-01-08 13:25:25  alex.ragone ->  http://youthvoices.net
2009-01-08 13:28:21  David Withrow ->  Isn't what Christensen suggesting that schools as an institution "cram" technology into the traditional instruction? Technology provides a shift away from that kind of instruction towards a more collaboration hands on approach in location and distant learning.
2009-01-08 13:28:59  alex.ragone ->  David -- I think there are two perspectives -- 1. Drill and Kill and 2. Open Social.
2009-01-08 13:29:03  PeggyG ->  that homework model using podcasts for lectures sounds like it has great potential--makes a lot of sense
2009-01-08 13:29:09  alex.ragone ->  You can do both with technology.
2009-01-08 13:31:15  alex.ragone ->  Right?
2009-01-08 13:31:23  David Withrow ->  Sure drill and kill is using technology to "cram" a style into a technology that is far more adaptive.
2009-01-08 13:32:04  PeggyG ->  I thought the conversation with George Siemens on WOW2 this week was fascinating when he talked about how "connectivism" is understood in so many different countries/cultures around the world.
2009-01-08 13:33:43  PeggyG ->  so many different views of education around the world
2009-01-08 13:33:50  David Withrow ->  Peggy - I agree podcasts or reading homework is far more useful than the send them home to do practice "too often badly" an idea or ineffectively attempting to regurgitate answers.
2009-01-08 13:33:54  alex.ragone ->  And in some ways, you have the ability to innovate above that to have basic skills practiced with tech helping it along.
2009-01-08 13:34:32  PeggyG ->  technology really supports individualized learning based on learning styles/multiple intelligences
2009-01-08 13:34:39  David Withrow ->  Yes
2009-01-08 13:37:55  PeggyG ->  I agree--blended learning models are very important for both independent schools and public schools!
2009-01-08 13:40:19  alex.ragone ->  http://schoolcomputing.wikia.com/wiki/Designing_the_21st_Century_School
2009-01-08 13:40:22  PeggyG ->  the resources are very important but often people use it as an excuse for not moving forward--saying they don't have the resources
2009-01-08 13:40:28  alex.ragone ->  http://disruptedacademy.wikispaces.com/
2009-01-08 13:40:50  alex.ragone ->  Any foundation head's out there willing to support this?
2009-01-08 13:41:06  sarah h ->  What about a "school within a school" model?
2009-01-08 13:41:19  alex.ragone ->  Any suggestions on foundations that would support this?
2009-01-08 13:41:32  alex.ragone ->  Sarah -- I definitely think this works.
2009-01-08 13:41:49  PeggyG ->  looking for foundations to provide financial support? what would they be funding?
2009-01-08 13:42:05  alex.ragone ->  COuld be Fred's idea of the virtual academy.
2009-01-08 13:42:13  sarah h ->  I'm trying to get some traction for the idea of setting something up within our middle school now for students who are having trouble, but are capable.
2009-01-08 13:42:37  PeggyG ->  that sounds great Sarah!
2009-01-08 13:43:03  DeeBeaChi ->  MacArthur-but they are fixated on gaming as the only model- and that is limited (especially for girls) http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.946881/k.380D/Domestic_Gran...
2009-01-08 13:43:41  sarah h ->  thanks guys
2009-01-08 13:43:57  DeeBeaChi ->  Can anyone meet in CHicago at the NAIS to chat about this?
2009-01-08 13:44:23  sarah h ->  @DeeBeaChi http://isenet.ning.com/events/event/show?id=1194706%3AEvent%3A39631
2009-01-08 13:44:31  PeggyG ->  very interesting conversation--can't wait to explore the wiki and google site
2009-01-08 13:44:38  DeeBeaChi ->  Thank oyu-figured there must be somethign!
2009-01-08 13:44:50  PeggyG ->  thanks everyone! lots of things to think about

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